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November 12, 2004
A New One
Game On.
Posted by not sam at November 12, 2004 12:23 PM
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Checkmate:
I support the troops.
How do I support the troops that killed 100,000 Iraqi civilians?
How do I support a government that commits crimes against humanity?
How can a support people that through espousing support for our troops send them to slaughter and be slaughtered for corporate profit.
When is enough, enough?
We have so much blood on our hands and we are still trying to wash it away with more.
Stop the War NOW
Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at November 12, 2004 12:26 PM
Right, the most recent unqualifed, corrupt nominee.
Why aren't we fighting this?
Saving firepower, this is just nuts!!!
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 12:26 PM
hmmm. ima post this again so no one is lose out on opurtunity.
virgin mary found on grill cheese available for sale to the public. bidding action hot and hevy get yer bid in now:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5534052474&category=19270
Posted by: muck4doo at November 12, 2004 12:28 PM
Stop the War NOW
Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at November 12, 2004 12:26 PM
Stop the War NOW
Obstruct you scumb bag Democrats...
Now you're talking Al...
Now you're talking!!!
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 12:28 PM
Hey MAT...what time did you crash out last night? Weird thing, I think I dreamed of you!
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 12:29 PM
rip us
Posted by: bibimimi at November 12, 2004 12:29 PM
I don't get why Congress will appoint ANY Bush nominee.
There IS NO MANDATE!
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 12:30 PM
rip us
a new on!
Posted by: bibimimi at November 12, 2004 12:30 PM
Hi TTC,
I was out at about 12:30 and I was told I was shouting at someone in my sleep.
Posted by: aka MAT at November 12, 2004 12:30 PM
I saw the Grilled Virgin...but I'm still paying off my Nun bun.
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 12:30 PM
I don't think it was at me. I was just hanging around watching you talk to some people. *shrug* Pretty cloudy actually, I just got the feeling it was you.
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 12:33 PM
I have been told my two different peeps that I was a nun twice in my past lives and a pardre once.
the last life I was Italian living in italy and I had 13 children all who lived. I lived a life of drudgery and my husband was cruel. He said I also wanted to travel very badly but my sitution would not allow that to happen. He said I was basically an unhappy slave.
Posted by: aka MAT at November 12, 2004 12:33 PM
Miami-Dade police shocked a 6-year-old boy with a 50,000-volt stun gun to keep him from hurting himself with a piece of glass he was waving around in a school office, officials confirmed Thursday.
Police say they followed their Taser guidelines, the child wasn't injured by the shock and he might have hurt himself seriously if they hadn't shocked him.
But the incident, which occurred Oct. 20 at Kelsey Pharr Elementary in Brownsville, has child advocates and experts shaking their heads in disbelief.
''It just sounds excessive to me to Taser gun a 6-year-old when everyone else around there were adults,'' said retired Broward County Juvenile Judge Frank Orlando, who runs a youth-law clinic at Nova Southeastern University. ``They couldn't subdue a 6-year-old? Must have been a pretty big kid.''
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/10161183.htm?1c
Posted by: écrasez l'infâme at November 12, 2004 12:34 PM
bye all!
have a good week-end Mucky:)
Posted by: Conbo at November 12, 2004 12:34 PM
How will we ever get any votes counted agqin?
This is it.
They stole it.
It's over. Forget freedom and Democracy the way we knew it.
The Glassy Eyed True Believers are comming.
In Jack boots and Brown shirts.
They want us Catholic's.
They want all our relatives, too.
You know, my pop's is nowhere NEAR white enough for his country club.
No we didn't, Al.
No matter how often you say it, it's still not true.
Bush STOLE it.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 12:35 PM
Bring the boys back home.
Bring the boys back home.
Don’t leave the children on their own, no, no.
Bring the boys back home.
Posted by: Pink at November 12, 2004 12:35 PM
See ya, conbo!
Posted by: RWiley at November 12, 2004 12:35 PM
I just got the feeling it was you.
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 12:33 PM
It might have been I travel alot in my dreams.
I learn to go places, and control where I go.
I believe death is like a dream, and we should learn how to control them in this life to fulfill the afterlife.
Unless the Christains are correct and we all burn in hell.
I can't imagine them being correct
Posted by: aka MAT at November 12, 2004 12:36 PM
CONBO!!! wait. I was just asking Sunny J if he'd seen you lately. I'm glad your still here!
Posted by: aka MAT at November 12, 2004 12:37 PM
is this guy on Al's show alittle nervous? Sounds like he hasnt slept in days. Makes some good observations though..
Posted by: GregZ at November 12, 2004 12:37 PM
Ahhhhhh.....motivation. There's nothing like a stack of fresh clean Franklins to provide a little impetus!
Think I'll break out my Deerstalker hat, Meerschaum pipe, sword-concealing walking stick, revolver and rename my trusty laptop, Watson, for this one!
Group offers $100,000 reward for proof of fraud that could change electoral outcome
A non-profit music advocacy group is offering a $100,000 reward to anyone with evidence of voting fraud that could change the outcome of the presidential race, RAW STORY has learned.
The group, Justice Through Music, said that one of their major donors from Ohio had agreed to front the money for the award. Ohio was the battleground state that decided the 2004 election.
http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=417
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 12:38 PM
How ever they've done it, they've made you believe we CAN'T count the votes, Al.
Why?
Why can't we count the votes?
All Across America?
Forget any limits they tell you there are...
THERE AREN"T!!!!
You Can, We Can...
COUNT THE VOTES!!!!
You said you would fight for that... now you ROLL RIGHT OVER!!!
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 12:38 PM
Maybe the kid was threatening to cut his own throat and holding the glass to his jugular.
You know, "come one step closer and the kid, I mean, _I_ gets it!"
I'd rather shock him than watch him gush blood.
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 12:38 PM
Robert Kennedy Jr. He always has a "cry" in his voice. He would have been the head of the EPA is Kerry had fought to get the vote counted.
Posted by: Monkey King at November 12, 2004 12:39 PM
i think that after you die, your soul creates your afterlife for you.
if you think you were evil, your soul torments you with your own personalized version of hell based on previous failures.
if you think you were good, jacuzzis and hukas for all.
Posted by: écrasez l'infâme at November 12, 2004 12:39 PM
Hi, Bobby!
Man that was beautiful!
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 12:39 PM
I support the War resisters, those who have the courage to say NO to war
Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at November 12, 2004 12:39 PM
I'm gonna say... Billy?
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 12:40 PM
Got to go. have reports to write and calls to make.
peace to you bloggers
Posted by: aka MAT at November 12, 2004 12:40 PM
is that Bobby? I got on alittle late.
Posted by: GregZ at November 12, 2004 12:40 PM
Oh, this is sweet.
With Bobby K!!!
Too awsome!!!
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 12:40 PM
lolololololol
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 12:41 PM
Bush-mas... you never know!
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 12:42 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/11/11/no.cartwheels.reut/index.html
Student suspended for handstands, cartwheels
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Cartwheels and handstands have gotten an 11-year-old girl temporarily bounced out of her Los Angeles-area school.
Deirdre Faegre was suspended for a week after repeatedly disobeying school officials who told her not to perform gymnastic stunts during lunchtime.
"Our first concern is the safety of all children," San Jose-Edison Academy Principal Denise Patton told the San Gabriel Valley Tribune.
Patton said Deirdre could accidentally strike another student, or injure herself, and other children could get hurt trying to imitate Deirdre, who has been doing gymnastics for five years.
Deirdre's father, Leland Faegre, said it was absurd to suspend his daughter for doing gymnastics when students were allowed to play basketball and other sports.
"Contact sports, apparently, are fine. But this one is so dangerous it requires the cartwheel cops," Faegre said.
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 12:43 PM
Well, that was sure funny.
I'm not about to stop squeaking RE: Bush (The PIG, STOLE IT)
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 12:44 PM
HOLY CRAP!!!!
I was leaving really I was but what the FUCK IS THIS SHIT?
Friday, November 12, 2004
First Up Tucker speaks with Amy Goodman, host of Pacifica Radio's "Democracy Now!," about the few remaining independent voices in the media.
Next up Tucker engages Christopher Hitchens about the death of Yasser Arafat and France's attacks in Africa.
And on our Back Page Tucker speaks with Jeremy Rifkin, author of The European Dream, about America's economic and cultural dominance.
PLEASE DOG IN HEAVEN DON'T LET THE FREAK ASS WEIRDO TOUCH OUR AMY!!!
I DON'T WANT TO LOOSE AMY TOO!
Posted by: aka MAT at November 12, 2004 12:44 PM
A New York State Senate member lost her election by several thousand votes. She has refused to concede until all the votes are counted. Her supporters are exicted and supporting her count and recount efforts fanatically. Should she quit and "take it like a man" as some on this blog would suggest? Or, should she ride it out to the pleasure of her supporters. Oh, at noon today, the difference has narrowed to 600 and the City of Syracuse is still to be counted.
Posted by: RWiley at November 12, 2004 12:44 PM
When The Tigers Broke Free
It was just before dawn
One miserable morning in black 'forty four.
When the forward commander
Was told to sit tight
When he asked that his men be withdrawn.
And the Generals gave thanks
As the other ranks held back
The enemy tanks for a while.
And the Anzio bridgehead
Was held for the price
Of a few hundred ordinary lives.
And old King George
Sent Mother a note
When he heard that father was gone.
It was, I recall,
In the form of a scroll,
With gold leaf and all.
And I found it one day
In a drawer of old photographs, hidden away.
And my eyes still grow damp to remember
His Majesty signed
With his own rubber stamp.
Posted by: Pink at November 12, 2004 12:44 PM
A scifi story I read awhile back had mention of time and consciousness that was fascinating.
Time is static, our perception is that it is dynamic due to consciousness. When we sleep, consciousness is detaches and our minds can travel freely. The subsconsious acts as a barrier. Sometimes the barrier isn't as effective and snippets get through. Explains precognition and past lives.
In it, the guy's subconscious barrier broke to the point where he was a 13 year old boy. He was then a 35 year old (with memories and future known clearly) in the 13 yo body.
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 12:44 PM
From: Davids Medienkritik
Loser’s Anger / Der Zorn der Verlierer
(Deutsche Version am Ende des Beitrags)
Not an opinion you would expect in the German media...
Die Welt:
The United Front of Enlightened Euro-American Intellectuals clearly understood the situation soon after the Bush-Republicans’ landslide victory: the USA is lost forever to the grips of a war mongering, homophobic, anti-feminist, fundamentalist religious reactionaries. They thought they could see, in the reelected administration’s huge majority, a reversal to medieval times, a triumph of the worst of redneck culture which harvested death threats in even the serious British press. The author Jonathan Franzen, writing in Die Welt, used bizarre analogies to show how he was reminded of the American Civil War, which cost hundreds of thousands their lives, and 15 writers took two pages of the Süddeutsche Zeitung to lament the “collective fiasco,” the “paranoid” American voters, and the “idiots” who would rule the world from Washington for four more years. Stewart O'Nan summed it up for all of them with, “what a shitty day.”
Perhaps, in the wake of these manically overwrought analyses, we can most clearly see why the anti-Bush camp was condemned to lose so decisively. Because listening to this holier-than-thou and condescending blather that totally ignores reality is simply unbearable after a while. That which is called extremism here is basically nothing more than a triumph of realism amongst a broad majority of the population. The Americans trust Bush because he acts in accordance with several tried and proven traditions of realpolitik and because he behaves just as other sensible people in similar situations would behave.
(Hat tip Andreas)
(Translation by Hartmut)
Continue reading "Loser’s Anger / Der Zorn der Verlierer"
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Posted by: FYI at November 12, 2004 12:47 PM
action hot and hevy get yer bid in now:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5534052474&category=19270
Posted by: muck4doo at November 12, 2004 12:28 PM
Eh muckie. The guy who bid $2000.00 thinks it looks more like Anna Nicole Smith.
Posted by: RWiley at November 12, 2004 12:47 PM
WElcome to the reich. Submit your iris patterns, fingerprints and DNA to the Fuhrer.
You will soon be conscripted to fight and die in his Oil Crusades.
America is no more. Enjoy your slavery.
www.prisonplanet.com
Posted by: We Are All Doomed at November 12, 2004 12:47 PM
Who is Amy?
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 12:48 PM
When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS.
Posted by: Monkey King at November 12, 2004 12:48 PM
At this time I shall clean.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 12:48 PM
Democrats and liberals are historically giving.
When you are giving to a thug, you get taken.
Liberals are roundheeled pushovers.
Posted by: underthebed at November 12, 2004 12:49 PM
MR. CARLSON.
PLEASE DO NOT HURT OUR AMY GOODMAN.
SHE IS NOT LIKE YOU. SHE IS NOT CORRUPT!
PLEASE DO NOT TOUCH HER IN ANY WAY. PLEASE DO NOT LOOK INTO HER EYES!
I CONSIDER YOU TO BE THE DEVILS MINION AND YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING IN THE SAME ROOM AS AN ANGEL!
Posted by: aka MAT at November 12, 2004 12:49 PM
bye conbo! :)
im think yer rite to. nicedoggie is sunk to new lows. emporor misha was bad but thisn imperial torturer even worse. that purdy mean what he posted about you but ima thinkin im goin use that for when we are get another troll like art over here.
Posted by: muck4doo at November 12, 2004 12:50 PM
amy goodman host of "democracy now"
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 12:50 PM
9.11 an inside job
Wellstone's plane did not just 'fall' on its ow
VOtes are now rigged
It is over. The End of America is here. Cristian Fascist mass murderers control us now.
Welcome to hell
www.propagandamatrix.com
Posted by: We Are All Doomed at November 12, 2004 12:50 PM
ooooooo...
you better get your facts right, Al.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 12:51 PM
Now see, this is what I was referring to earlier...
"WElcome to the reich. Submit your iris patterns, fingerprints and DNA to the Fuhrer.
You will soon be conscripted to fight and die in his Oil Crusades.
America is no more. Enjoy your slavery.
www.prisonplanet.com
Posted by: We Are All Doomed at November 12, 2004 12:47 PM"
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 12:51 PM
TTC. This is the home of AMY GOODMAN. she is the only reporter in the U.S. right now that asks the hard questions and is not in it for the money
SHE IS THE BEST! I watch her everyday MOn-FRi online at the above address. IT truely is the best place to get world news.
Posted by: aka MAT at November 12, 2004 12:51 PM
Someone tell Mark Luther that water EXPANDS when frozen, instead of contracting--that's why the water doesn't flow over the side when ice melts in a glass of ice water. Moron.
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 12:51 PM
Thanks for the link to that little girl in AL, conbo. Peace!
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 12:52 PM
Canada: Martin: We Make Our Own Laws
by Sean Gordon, National Post,, (11 Nov 2004) Vancouver Sun Canada
PM Brushes Aside U.S. Warning About Pot Bill
OTTAWA -- Prime Minister Paul Martin is brushing aside warnings from U.S. Ambassador Paul Cellucci that a border crackdown will result if Canada decriminalizes marijuana, saying simply that Canada will pass laws as it sees fit.
Asked what he made of Cellucci's prediction that relaxed marijuana laws in Canada will worsen the perennial congestion at border crossings with the U.S., Martin was unequivocal.
"Firstly, the legislation is before the House of Commons, then the parliamentary committee will have its discussions on all the various points, and we'll wait to see the legislation that comes from that. But Canada will make its own laws, pure and simple," Martin said.
Business groups have raised the alarm over the possible tie-ups resulting from more liberal marijuana laws in Canada, saying that even the current border morass costs Canadian businesses billions of dollars annually. It's estimated that $1.2 billion in goods and services travel across the border each day.
The opposition Conservatives, who insist the draft legislation is deeply flawed, renewed calls to shelve the bill until trade disputes with the Bush administration over beef and softwood lumber exports end.
The draft legislation calls for fines of $150 for adults -- and $100 for minors -- who are caught in possession of up to 15 grams of marijuana.
http://www.mapinc.org/newscc/v04/n1604/a09.html?397
Posted by: Bart at November 12, 2004 12:52 PM
The NEOCON NAZIS have used assassination, mas murder, redistricting, and Vote Rigging to steal america.
Now they have it. ANd they are driving us over a cliff at full speed.
No 'debating' is going to stop them. Democrats should WALK OUT of teh Congress RIGHT NOW!
Declare Independence from this Fascist Dictatorship NOW!! Don't wait until Rigged Votes in 2006 or 2008.
www.crisispapers.com
Posted by: We Are All Doomed at November 12, 2004 12:53 PM
Ah, interesting. I'll have to check that out. Thanks for the link, MAT.
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 12:54 PM
Headlines for November 12, 2004 *
- Arafat Bured in Ramallah; Funeral in Egypt
- Israel Puts Vanunu Under House Arrest
- Report: Fallujah Facing Humanitarian Crisis
- U.S. Arrests Pro-Resistance Sunni Leaders
- Resistance Claims US Is Using Chemical Weapons
- Iraqi Gov't Warns Journalists About Coverage
- Kerry Sends Fact-Finding Mission to Ohio
On todays DemocracyNOW!
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 12:54 PM
an excellent effort, Al-bert.
Nice n-real.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 12:54 PM
Checkmate:
Conspiracy theories are any thing and every thing that does not support the status quo. Regardless of the facts and the evidence that show that the real conspiracy theories are the establishments contrived worldview.
To the right-wingers and the timid Quisling collaborators in the media
I say:
“Go sell crazy some place else, we’re all full up.”
Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at November 12, 2004 12:54 PM
When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS. -- Monkey King
...just as soon as Frodo tosses the ring in to the fires of Mount Doom.
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 12:57 PM
When I went to the mail today, I had to verify my ID in order to pay for box rental. I was born in this town and not a stranger. They would not accept my Driver's license and had a list of other very personal items they would accept. One of them was a Home Mortgage (not making this up) Not having a proper Item with me, I had to get back on my bicycle and go home and get an auto registration, which they did accept. Wow, talk about an information gathering scheme.
Posted by: RWiley at November 12, 2004 12:57 PM
I don't get why Congress will appoint ANY Bush nominee.
RUBBER STAMP, RUS!
THAE GAME IS FIXED!
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 12:58 PM
I was just listening to Rush Limbaugh on the radio. He is always so positive and optimistic. He is really content with the way the election has worked out. And as you know he has the number one most listened to show in radio.
I was also watching Fox News this morning. They also seemed quite content with the direction of the country. Did you know they had the number one most watched News Channel on cable? It's true, Fox News dominates the cable industry!
I was watching the president on TV with Tony Blair this morning. You just have to love those guys the way they've brought democracy to the world. And with Arafat pushing up daisies the Palestinians have to shit or get off the pot. Do they want freedom and democracy, or death? It's their choice either way!
I was watching the Senate on C-SPAN. Poor Tom Daschle, I guess it was just his turn to lose! Of course you've got to be happy with the seats that were picked up by the Republicans. They now have the power to crack down on those democratic filibusters. Ya gotta love that!
And don't forget about the House of Representatives. Like the president they represent the will of the people. You have to love the way the country is moving to the right. Even through the Bill Clinton years the country was moving to the right. Bill Clinton was swept from the left to the right by the will of the people. And now the Republicans have a bigger majority than ever. Ya gotta love that!
God, I love this country!
Posted by: Bye Bye John at November 12, 2004 12:58 PM
Thanks for the link, MAT.
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 12:54 PM
NO problamo TTC. You will learn more from that web page than any other. They have arhcived shows going all the way back to before 2001, you can watch them all on-line for free.
You can also get alot of tips and hints for finding other things.
Please check it out and tell others about it.
Some places get it on tv and radio. and Amy will tell you how where and when to get it.
PEACE! Have a good da. I've got to get to work.
HEy if you have tv and you can see the Amy interveiw on that smarmy little freaks show I would love to hear about it.
Posted by: aka MAT at November 12, 2004 12:58 PM
US: Drug-Sniffing Dogs Debated
by Stephen Henderson, The Washington Post contributed to this report, (11 Nov 2004) Sun News United States
Searches Violate Privacy Rights, Lawyer In Illinois Case Says
WASHINGTON - An hour of debate at the Supreme Court on Wednesday about the scope and limits of the Fourth Amendment and personal privacy boiled down to a five-word question: Is a sniff a search?
Roy Caballes said it is, especially when police stop you for speeding, then have a canine unit sniff around your car for drugs. In Caballes' case, the dog found $256,000 worth of marijuana in the trunk. Police arrested Caballes, and he was sentenced to 12 years in prison.
Caballes' lawyer told the high court Wednesday that the traffic stop did not give Illinois state troopers probable cause to search Caballes' car for drugs, so the dog's sharp nose was an infringement on Caballes' privacy rights.
Illinois officials, backed by the Justice Department, told the justices that a sniffing dog is not a search, at least not as far as the Constitution is concerned. It is a reasonable investigative tool, they said, no different from the trooper's eyes or nose. Moreover, Caballes has no right of privacy when it comes to contraband, the officials said.
"Dog sniffs are unique in that they only reveal the presence or absence of contraband," Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan told the justices. "And there's no privacy right for drugs."
The case, one in a long line of search-and-seizure issues to reach the high court, allows the justices to continue refining the lines between personal liberty and police authority.
The court generally has taken a broad view of these matters and given police a good bit of leeway to conduct reasonable investigations.
The justices have allowed police executing search warrants to kick in a door after knocking and waiting 15 seconds.
They also have said authorities have the right to arrest all the occupants of a car where drugs are found to determine whose they are.
http://www.mapinc.org/ccnews/v04/n1604/a05.html
Posted by: Bart at November 12, 2004 01:01 PM
When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS. -- Monkey King
Agreed. There's many examples from history:
Hitler, Tito, Soviet Union, Milosevic, Taliban, Sadaam Hussein, Yasar Arafat,...
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 01:01 PM
:-)
No problem , MAT. Be well.
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 01:01 PM
Bush supports are accomplices to mass murder, rape, and torture.
May they all be judged and sent to Hell.
www.bushflash.com
Posted by: Neocon Traitors at November 12, 2004 01:01 PM
Oh no, a glitch was made in an Indiana election and a Democrat was elected by mistake. What are they to do?
Posted by: RWiley at November 12, 2004 01:01 PM
Bush supporters are accomplices to mass murder, rape, and torture.
May they all be judged and sent to Hell.
www.bushflash.com
Posted by: Neocon Traitors at November 12, 2004 01:02 PM
:-)
No problem , MAT. Be well.
P.S. WHICH smarmy little freak? There are so many in the word and media!
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 01:02 PM
:-)
No problem , MAT. Be well.
P.S. WHICH smarmy little freak? There are so many in the world and media!
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 01:02 PM
wow! ima get to use nicedoggie insult sooner than im thought. here bye bye john thisn for you:
http://www.digitalend.com/pics/attention_whore4.jpg
Posted by: muck4doo at November 12, 2004 01:03 PM
bbj--
peddle yer sheep shit elsewhere.
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 01:04 PM
Checkmate:
“I support the troops.”
How do I support the troops that killed 100,000 Iraqi civilians?
How do I support a government that commits crimes against humanity?
How can a support people that through espousing support for our troops send them to slaughter and be slaughtered for corporate profit.
When is enough, enough?
We have so much blood on our hands and we are still trying to wash it away with more.
Stop the War NOW
Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at November 12, 2004 01:04 PM
wow! ima get to use nicedoggie insult sooner than im thought. here bye bye john thisn for you:
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Didn't I see that guys photo on the web site where people go to apologize for voting for John Kerry? If it wasn't him, there's a dozen there who looked just like him!
Posted by: Bye Bye John at November 12, 2004 01:06 PM
BTW, WE don't live in a system with FREE expression if we can't get our VOTES COUNTED, much les FUTURE PALISTINIANS!
That being said, we must pursue peace, even if it means working with Bush (The PIG, STOLE IT)
and now...
Let's imagine for a moment that we're Bush (The PIG, STOLE IT)
Hey, why not steal all the votes we can? Isn't God on OUR side?
First of all, if any of our schemes get exposed, we'll say there are "No More, Anomalies."
And no one wil even question it.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 01:06 PM
Posted by: aka MAT at November 12, 2004 12:51 PM
Amy Goodman = Goddess
plus she picked up
a story i was pushing
on this blog once
Posted by: Bart at November 12, 2004 01:08 PM
Dr. Zimmerman, have you tried contacting the White House by any means with your concerns?
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 01:08 PM
bla, bla, bloggies
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 01:08 PM
That was tight enough.
well done!
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 01:09 PM
Heh...
At the United Way in a fairly small town a volunteer worker
noticed that the most successful lawyer in the whole town
hadn't made a contribution. This guy was making about
$600,000 a year so the volunteer thought, "Why not call
him up?" He calls up the lawyer.
"Sir, according to our research you haven't made a contri-
bution to the United Way, would you like to do so?"
The lawyer responds, "A contribution? Does your research
show that I have an invalid mother who requires expensive
surgery once a year just to stay alive?"
The worker is feeling a bit embarrassed and says, "Well,
no sir, I'm..."
"Does your research show that my sister's husband was
killed in a car accident? She has three kids and no means
of support!"
The worker is feeling quite embarrassed at this point.
"I'm terribly sorry..."
"Does your research show that my brother broke his neck on
the job and now requires a full time nurse to have any kind
of normal life?"
The worker is completely humiliated at this point. "I am
sorry sir, please forgive me..."
"The gall of you people! I don't give them anything, so why
should I give it to you!"
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 01:09 PM
Stop the War NOW
Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at November 12, 2004 01:04 PM
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I prefer your “John Kerry will be president in the next 24 hours” joke!
Or your “help is on the way” joke!
You should have your own radio show like Janeane and Sam.
Comedians make the best liberal talkshow hosts!
Posted by: Bye Bye John at November 12, 2004 01:10 PM
Dr. Zimmerman, have you tried contacting the White House by any means with your concerns?
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 01:08 PM
Oh, puh-leeze
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 01:10 PM
Gallup Poll, 11/12/04:
Bush job approval rating rises to 53%
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 01:11 PM
temple mount, Republican Consipred Action!
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 01:11 PM
Sharon and Bush worked together, DUH!
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 01:11 PM
New insurgency confronts US forces
Kurds come under attack as rebels rampage in city
Rory McCarthy in Baghdad and Michael Howard in Sulaymaniyah
Friday November 12, 2004
The Guardian
US troops were drawn into a new offensive in the northern Iraqi city of Mosul yesterday to tackle a tide of insurgency unchecked by the military assault on Falluja.
In Baghdad at least 17 Iraqis were killed in a suicide car bombing as gunmen set up checkpoints on roads in the west of the capital and fought battles with US troops.
Rebels also took to the streets of the northern town of Baiji, home to Iraq's main refinery, clashing with security forces.
The violence suggests the four-day operation in Falluja may have cleared out the most important insurgent stronghold in Iraq, but has done little to curb the burgeoning militant movement.
For two days insurgents have defied a curfew to rampage through Mosul, attacking or setting fire to at least seven police stations as well as government buildings.
Masked gunmen stole bullet-proof jackets and Kalashnikov rifles from police stations and were roaming the city centre yesterday setting fire to police cars and taking control of bridges. The five bridges over the Tigris were later closed to civilian traffic.
At one stage a group tried to storm an office of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, one of the two major Kurdish parties, and fought gunbattles with Kurdish guards. Mosul's television channel went off air for an hour and the US military admitted the Iraqi police were unable to handle the crisis. At least five Iraqi national guardsmen and a civilian have been killed and a dozen injured.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1349505,00.html
Posted by: Bart at November 12, 2004 01:12 PM
How do I support the troops that killed 100,000 Iraqi civilians?
When is enough, enough?
Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at November 12, 2004 01:04 PM
It sure is not easy to find ways to support the troops. If you live near a militiary community you will find a vounteer center that provides services for the kids in the military. Many of them need help, since most are living on food stamps, in poor housing, with poverty level pay.
And don't be shy. In Watertown, NY our volunteer center is filled with bleeding heart libs like myself. The conserves in the meantime are showing their support by purchasing magnetic flags and ribbons and blowing the heads off the local deer?
Posted by: RWiley at November 12, 2004 01:12 PM
Yes, YES!!
Al, is right!
Arafat took the bait!!
Why!!
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 01:12 PM
Leaders lead to peace!
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 01:13 PM
Drug addicts make the best right wing talk show hosts.
Posted by: frngy at November 12, 2004 01:13 PM
something...
Now, the other guy has a point, Sharon is a Bushie.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 01:14 PM
wow Dr Cole sounded much more comfortable on the MR last night. Why is Al so hostile toward him for saying that the problem was deeper than Arafat?
Posted by: GregZ at November 12, 2004 01:14 PM
Bush manipulations.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 01:14 PM
hohohohohoh
K. gettin' the schtick ingrained!
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 01:15 PM
Rapists make the best left wing Presidents
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 01:16 PM
let's see Dr Cole is a professor of ME history and Al said he doesnt agree with him about history. Wake up Al what Dr Cole was saying about Isreal is true!
Posted by: GregZ at November 12, 2004 01:16 PM
President Bush today promised to "spend the capital of the United States" to establish a Palestinian state and secure a lasting peace in the Middle East. At a joint news conference with British Prime Minister Tony Blair hours after Yasser Arafat's burial Bush said, "I think it is fair to say that I believe we've got a great chance to establish a Palestinian state."
Posted by: talkin points R us at November 12, 2004 01:16 PM
I think a good deal of progress could be made in narrowing the partisan divide if we shut up or at least temper the radio hosts on BOTH sides.
They thrive on conflict, so doesn't it make sense that they encourage it?
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 01:17 PM
Drug addicts make the best right wing talk show hosts.
Posted by: frngy at November 12, 2004 01:13 PM
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Although Janeane has been through rehab, I believe she is clean at this time. As far as Sam is concerned, he has admitted casual drug use, but to our knowledge, Sam has never been addicted to drugs. I do not believe prior drug use was a qualification in their selection to host the show!
Posted by: Bye Bye John at November 12, 2004 01:17 PM
They're tasering 6 yr old kids in Florida?
http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041112/NEWS/411120404/1004
Posted by: bibimimi at November 12, 2004 01:17 PM
Drug addicts make the best right wing talk show hosts.
Posted by: frngy at November 12, 2004 01:13 PM
=========
oxycontins by the dozens i ate
said rush spewing right wing hate
it gave me the nerve
to lip the conserve
and it did help a bit with my weight
Posted by: RWiley at November 12, 2004 01:18 PM
Iraqi Gov't Warns Media About Coverage
Thursday November 11, 2004 11:01 PM
AP Photo NY181
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - The Iraqi government warned news organizations Thursday to distinguish between insurgents and ordinary civilians in coverage of the fighting in Fallujah and to promote the leadership's position or face unspecified action.
The warning came in a statement sent to news organizations by Iraq's Media High Commission, which cited the 60-day state of emergency declared Sunday on the eve of the offensive in Fallujah.
``You must be precise and objective in handling news and information,'' the statement said.
It stressed the necessity of differentiating between ``innocent citizens of Fallujah who are not targeted by the military operations and between the terrorist groups who infiltrated the city and took its people hostage under the pretext of resistance and jihad.''
It also told news organizations to tell their correspondents ``to be credible and precise'' and not to ``add patriotic descriptions to groups of killers and criminals.''
Finally, the commission told news organizations to provide space to explain ``the government position, expressing the ambition of most of the Iraqi people'' and underscore that ``these military operations did not come about until all peaceful means were attempted'' to avoid violence.
It said that failure to follow the instructions will require authorities to ``take all necessary measures to safeguard the supreme interest of the homeland.'' The statement did not provide further details.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4610349,00.html
Posted by: Bart at November 12, 2004 01:18 PM
Janeane was in rehab?! I thought she was always one of the "drugs are for the weak" people.
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 01:19 PM
Think no name is hard? Trying to illicit negative retorts to help get him off. Trading insults is his form of foreplay. There something so unseemly about the ostrich people.
Posted by: frngy at November 12, 2004 01:19 PM
They're kicking girls out of school for handstands?
http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/11/11/no.cartwheels.reut/index.html
Student suspended for handstands, cartwheels
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 01:20 PM
Just a thought...
The Evangelical christian right has recently expounding how very offended by our supposed smears on their beliefs .....BUT..... I submit that they have no trouble at all belittling our belief systems, ie: truth, honor, stewardship over the land, charity to those less fortunate, and the like....
they are doing the exact thing to us "liberals".....but of course it's "ok" for them.....eh?
Posted by: Beating around the Bush at November 12, 2004 01:21 PM
totally wrecks havock with cleaning
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 01:21 PM
Putin finally making
a smart move
Russia to Reduce Troops in Chechnya
By SERGEI VENYAVSKY, Associated Press Writer
ROSTOV-ON-DON, Russia - The Russian military will cut its deployment in Chechnya (news - web sites) by about 1,000 troops and stop using conscripts in the war against separatist rebels next year, Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov said Friday.
The announcement, however, did not appear to indicate that Russia believes it is gaining an advantage over the guerrillas it has been battling for more than five years. Ivanov said the 42nd Motorized Division that is the military's main unit in Chechnya "will stay there forever."
Ivanov, who made the statements during an inspection trip in Rostov-on-Don, headquarters for the military's southern region, did not give an overall figure for the troop presence in Chechnya.
But Russian officials this year said there were about 70,000 armed forces in Chechnya, including from the army, the Interior Ministry and the Federal Security Service, the main successor to the Soviet KGB. In addition, Chechnya has a large presidential security service that conducts operations against rebels and is widely alleged to abduct and abuse civilians.
Posted by: Bart at November 12, 2004 01:22 PM
Dr. Zimmerman, have you tried contacting the White House by any means with your concerns?
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 01:08 PM
Yes, and Congress, the NYTimes, etc.
Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at November 12, 2004 01:22 PM
Janeane was in rehab?! I thought she was always one of the "drugs are for the weak" people.
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 01:19 PM
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I believe it was alcohol that created her problems. Leading her to cut off one of her fingers with a knife on a long drunken weekend. But with the help of counselors and the support of her father she has turned her life around. She has demonstrated that she can learn from her mistakes. As a compassionate conservative I can only hope that she will mend her political ways as well.
Posted by: Bye Bye John at November 12, 2004 01:23 PM
*sniff* thisn the saddest news im read in a long time:
CHILHOWIE, Va. - Fourteen cars of an 83-car Norfolk Southern train derailed near an industrial park, leaving the area smelling like a brewery Thursday.
About 20,000 gallons of beer leaked from three cars of the Roanoke-bound train, said railway spokesman Robin Chapman.
No one was injured when the cars skipped the tracks about 10:30 p.m. Wednesday, Chapman said.
Investigating officers said the leak did not contaminate any nearby water sources nor affect any highways.
"Everything was contained away from the creek," said Jack Tolbert Jr. of the Virginia Department of Emergency Management.
Authorities were investigating the cause of the derailment. All trains scheduled to use the tracks through Chilhowie were held until they were cleared Thursday evening.
Posted by: muck4doo at November 12, 2004 01:23 PM
they are doing the exact thing to us "liberals".....but of course it's "ok" for them.....eh?
Posted by: Beating around the Bush at November 12, 2004 01:21 PM
It is not only "OK", but mandatory. The things I saw during my last few years as a Republican were far from Christian.
Posted by: RWiley at November 12, 2004 01:23 PM
More Americans voted AGAINST Mr. Bush than any other Presidential candidate in the nation's history.
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 01:24 PM
more elections?
There is no such thing as fair elections.
That's over.
They stole that, you guys.
Maybe your missing the point of my "Stole It"'s
They stole... "Elections" that's over.
They got that.
I have no idea what you guys plan to do, but this "wait till next election" thing?
That's denial. Not my gink.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 01:24 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A22205-2004Oct10.html
MIAMI, Oct. 10 -- John F. Kerry used a Baptist pulpit Sunday to speak of eternal life and denounce President Bush, as Jesse L. Jackson and Al Sharpton joined him for a home-stretch push to energize African American Floridians who felt disenfranchised in 2000....
The Massachusetts Democrat, who has battled apathy about his presidential candidacy in the black community, prayed, tapped along to rollicking gospel tunes and held up a pocket Bible in a church where he was repeatedly called "the next president" and even "president."...
Kerry became more explicitly political, and the congregation roared its approval. "In the 1990s under Bill Clinton, we lifted more people out poverty," he said. "This president has taken that $5.6 trillion surplus and turned it into the biggest deficits in American history. . . . These folks want to take Americans backward and cut overtime pay. Not in my America. . . . These people talk about values?"
Congregants waved fans emblazoned "People of Faith for Kerry-Edwards." Kerry smiled after former U.S. representative Carrie Meek (D-Fla.) said he is "fighting against liars and demons."
Kerry, who has compared Bush to those in the Bible story who ignored the wounded man before the Good Samaritan helped him, joked about the risk of being upstaged by Jackson and Sharpton. He said he didn't mind because "God's speaking here today, and we're going to listen."
The minister, the Rev. Gaston E. Smith, endorsed Kerry, saying, "To bring our country out of despair, despondency and disgust, God has a John Kerry."
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 01:25 PM
elections... bahh!
fantasy, magical thinking.
you wish.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 01:25 PM
speaking of states that
supported terrorism....deathsquads
anyone?
Rumsfeld: El Salvador Can Be Iraq Model
By JOHN J. LUMPKIN, Associated Press Writer
SAN SALVADOR, El Salvador - Iraq (news - web sites) can learn from the recent history of El Salvador (news - web sites), a country wracked by civil war that has developed into a stable democracy and close U.S. ally, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Thursday.
Rumsfeld, speaking at the U.S. Embassy here, thanked the Salvadorans for supplying troops for U.S. operations in Iraq. El Salvador, with about 370 soldiers in the only other country in the Western Hemisphere that currently has troops there.
"We are deeply in your debt," Rumsfeld said during a Veterans Day ceremony honoring U.S. and Salvadoran soldiers. He held up El Salvador as "a nation that understands well the human struggle for liberty and democracy."
From 1979 to 1992, El Salvador suffered a bloody civil war with leftist guerillas that left 75,000 dead in this nation of 6.5 million, where half live in poverty.
"The fight is not easy. It never is. It requires patience. And it has costs," Rumsfeld said before laying a wreath on a monument remembering U.S. citizens, including 20 U.S. military personnel, who were killed in the civil war.
Posted by: Bart at November 12, 2004 01:26 PM
Did you receive a response, Dr. Z?
What?! She is not missing any fingers, BBJ.
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 01:26 PM
Anybody feel like we're going in circles?
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 01:26 PM
Chalabe - schmalabe - convicted - greschmickted
Bush world corruption spin.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 01:28 PM
it's an enigma wrapped in a riddle wrapped in a mystery wrapped in... Bush.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 01:29 PM
wow Dr Cole sounded much more comfortable on the MR last night. Why is Al so hostile toward him for saying that the problem was deeper than Arafat?
Posted by: GregZ at November 12, 2004 01:14 PM
AAR has recognized Bush's mandate and is now moving toward the religious Americans of faith and morality.
Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at November 12, 2004 01:29 PM
What?! She is not missing any fingers, BBJ.
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 01:26 PM
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They sewed her finger back on. The incident occurred during the filming in Ireland, or was it Scotland? I fell asleep during the movie so I don't remember. But you shouldn't hold that up as an example of her instability. There are too many other good examples from which to choose.
Posted by: Bye Bye John at November 12, 2004 01:30 PM
Army Blackhawk Helicopter Shot Down
Friday November 12, 2004 4:01 PM
NEAR FALLUJAH, Iraq (AP) - A U.S. Army helicopter was shot down Friday north of Baghdad, and its three crew members were wounded, the U.S military said.
The UH-60 Black Hawk was hit by anti-aircraft fire in Taji, 12 miles north of the capital, the military said.
Three of the four crew members were injured in the attack, but are expected to recover, the U.S. military said. The crew was rescued and the helicopter was recovered.
This was the third time a U.S. helicopter was shot down this week.
On Thursday, two U.S. Marine helicopters were downed by rocket-propelled grenades and small-arms fire in separate incidents near Fallujah.
The crews of the two-man Super Cobra helicopters were forced to make hard landings, the military said. One of the four pilots was slightly injured and other helicopters rescued the crew members from the area, the military said.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4611541,00.html
Posted by: Bart at November 12, 2004 01:30 PM
did Al just support the leveling of Falujha?
Posted by: Beating around the Bush at November 12, 2004 01:30 PM
Liberals are roundheeled pushovers.
Posted by: underthebed at November 12, 2004 12:49 PM
grrrrr...not all!
*
When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall -- think of it, ALWAYS.
Posted by: Monkey King at November 12, 2004 12:48 PM
And stay ye not, but pursue after your enemies, and smite the hindmost of them; suffer them not to enter into their [red areas]: for [righteousness] hath delivered them into your hand.
And it came to pass, when [the forces of righteousness] had made an end of slaying them with a very great slaughter, till they were consumed, that the rest which remained of them [fled] into [dark red states].
And it came to pass, when they brought out those kings [of the false prophets & money changers] unto [the forces of righteousness], that [they] called for all [those forces] of [the blue's], and said unto the captains of [those] of war which [fought them], Come near, put your feet upon the necks of these kings [of the false prophets & money changers]. And they came near, and put their feet upon the necks of them.
And afterward [the forces of righteousness] smote them, and slew them, and hanged them on five trees: and they were hanging upon the trees until the evening.
And it came to pass at the time of the going down of the sun, that [the great King of the blue's] commanded, and they took them down off the trees, and cast [the false kings & princes of the red's] into the cave wherein they had been hid, and laid great stones in the cave's mouth, which remain until this very day.
*
You're right.....ALWAYS!
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 01:30 PM
Chalabe - schmalabe - convicted - greschmickted
Bush world corruption spin.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 01:28 PM
He only made one small mistake. He blurted out that the oil in Iraq belonged to the Iraqi people. What a silly, stupid man!
Posted by: RWiley at November 12, 2004 01:31 PM
(to quote the wicked witch as she disolves)
what a world... what a world... what a world... what a world...
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 01:31 PM
Can anyone else validate BBJ's statement?
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 01:31 PM
Can anyone else validate BBJ's statement?
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 01:31 PM
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Google!
Posted by: Bye Bye John at November 12, 2004 01:32 PM
You know, I'll still be with orgainizing, but unless we can count the votes...
we're spinning our wheels.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 01:32 PM
Dutch to Withdraw Troops from Iraq in March
AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - The Dutch cabinet has decided to bring home the 1,350 Dutch troops in Iraq (news - web sites) in March next year, confirming a decision first made in June, the Dutch news agency ANP cited Defense Minister Henk Kamp as saying on Friday.
The Netherlands first sent troops to Iraq in August 2003 and won parliamentary approval this summer to extend their stay until March 2005.
Iraq's interim administration wants to hold elections in January despite mounting violence, and the Netherlands has come under increasing U.S. and British pressure to keep its troops there after March.
Foreign Minister Bernard Bot recently suggested that might be possible in unforeseeable circumstances, but Kamp said the cabinet had ruled that out.
The Netherlands is a strong ally of the United States, but public opinion is divided on its mission in Iraq. Two Dutch soldiers have died in Iraq, one in May and one in August.
The Dutch troops are based at Samawa in southern Iraq with orders to help with reconstruction and provide security and stability in a region where Japan has sent 550 non-combat troops to help rebuild the country.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=574&ncid=721&e=4&u=/nm/20041112/wl_nm/iraq_dutch_dc
Posted by: Bart at November 12, 2004 01:32 PM
Liberals are roundheeled pushovers.
Posted by: underthebed at November 12, 2004 12:49 PM
grrrrr...not all!
Come visit some of us red-necked liberals here in the North if you want to test that theory!
Posted by: RWiley at November 12, 2004 01:33 PM
hear she USED to have alcohal problem ttc but have never heard that she is chopped off a finger. thatn new to me.
Posted by: muck4doo at November 12, 2004 01:35 PM
Did you receive a response, Dr. Z?
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 01:26 PM
Boilerplate.
The usual response from the deaf democracy.
Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at November 12, 2004 01:35 PM
Wiley--
Allow me to mangle some Dorothy Parker:
I may have a martini
Maybe two at most
After three I am under the table
After four I am under my host!
Posted by: bibimimi at November 12, 2004 01:35 PM
Thank God for Al-bert.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 01:35 PM
At least he's funny.
This is bleak, per view me.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 01:36 PM
If it is true that Jeanine cut her finger off because of alchol abuse, wonder what the chances are of Rush cutting his head off from drug abuse?
Posted by: frngy at November 12, 2004 01:37 PM
Send me a link BBJ.
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 01:38 PM
And D. Z,
And RWiley
and all the lil' bloggers.
amen.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 01:38 PM
~~~ wow Dr Cole sounded much more comfortable on the MR last night. Why is Al so hostile toward him for saying that the problem was deeper than Arafat? ~~~
You're not going to find an interview better than Sam, Janeane and Dr. Cole. There's magic thereabouts. I've seen and heard Dr. Cole interviewed by about a dozen different professional journalists and none of those sessions match ANY of the ones Sam and Janeane have conducted with Juan. Similarly, Sam and Janeane aren't nearly as good with other guests... sometimes they're horrible.
Something really clicks on MRR with Professor Cole and you're not going to see or hear anything like it elsewhere. I think the three of them should take advantage of whatever magic is there and do a weekend TV show together. America is getting sick of the Tim Russerts. Given a quality alternative, they would take it.
Posted by: Fishgrease at November 12, 2004 01:38 PM
Bush job approval rating rises to 53%
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 01:11 PM
Polling of likely citizens
Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at November 12, 2004 01:39 PM
This Fishgrease can confirm. He is a listener to the show!
Posted by: Bye Bye John at November 12, 2004 01:40 PM
Send me a link BBJ.
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 01:38 PM
don't hold yer breath. he pulled that from his ass.
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 01:40 PM
Bush policy... bleak, bleak, bleak
(tumble weeds, desert air, cold wind)
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 01:40 PM
Think a petition would work better? How many names do you suppose would be necessary to get attention?
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 01:40 PM
Asking Janeane herself would be the best idea.
She needs to come to the blog and talk at least once in awhile.
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 01:42 PM
Check out Henry Kissenger picking his nose and eating it. what a ladies man!!
http://www.thememoryhole.org/pol/kissinger-nose.htm
Posted by: RWiley at November 12, 2004 01:42 PM
Check out Henry Kissenger picking his nose and eating it. what a ladies man!!
http://www.thememoryhole.org/pol/kissinger-nose.htm
Posted by: RWiley at November 12, 2004 01:43 PM
After four I am under my host!
Posted by: bibimimi at November 12, 2004 01:35 PM
snicker.....
Posted by: Rwiley at November 12, 2004 01:46 PM
well, I'm trying to cheer up enough to be a good contestant
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 01:46 PM
Send me a link BBJ.
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 01:38 PM
don't hold yer breath. he pulled that from his ass.
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 01:40 P
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Hiding her body issues under oversized jeans and white T-shirt, and with a glint in her eye, Garofalo told tales of herniated discs and a severed finger, suffered during a period when her drinking spiralled while filming in London. And her ambivalent confessionals hit heights of self-deprecating hilarity worthy of the week's earlier Hummingbird feature, Joan Rivers -- albeit with a hipper point of view and brainier references.
http://www.canoe.ca/JamMoviesArtistsG/garofalo.html
Posted by: Bye Bye John at November 12, 2004 01:48 PM
Hmm...interesting.
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 01:50 PM
am i on the E channel blog? i thought this was the majority report, i'm confused.
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 01:50 PM
Checkmate:
Conspiracy theories are any thing and every thing that does not support the status quo. Regardless of the facts and the evidence that show that the real conspiracy theories are the establishments contrived worldview.
To the right-wingers and the timid Quisling collaborators in the media
I say:
“Go sell crazy some place else, we’re all full up.”
Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at November 12, 2004 01:51 PM
I like her acting work, but I did not laugh once during "Wet Hot American Summer." It wasn't her fault, it was just a bit drab.
I also prefer Hyde-Pierce as Niles.
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 01:52 PM
Can anyone else validate BBJ's statement?
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 01:31 PM
You guys are doing well to ignore this troll-just let him chatter inanities into cyberspace and he'll be gone soon.
Just scroll past this idiot-he's only here because his mommy weaned him too early, and he needs attention.
And ignore him later when he logs in under his normal nic as well.
Posted by: Yoyodyne_John at November 12, 2004 01:54 PM
Have you seen this?
FahrenHYPE 9/11
http://www.fahrenhype911.com/
Posted by: FYI at November 12, 2004 01:54 PM
The severed finger incident is widely known, but her alcohol recovery is to be admired. It is one of the best things about her. That is where she picked all I'll all her pop-psychology terms, “ self-loathing”, “ willfully ignorant”, ect..
Posted by: Bye Bye John at November 12, 2004 01:54 PM
~~~ This Fishgrease can confirm. He is a listener to the show! ~~~
I've also corresponded with Dr. Cole steadily since before there was an MRR. Juan feels the same about MRR as we do about him. It is his favorite gig.
So... once more BBJ tries being a smart ass with something he knows absolutely nothing about and makes us feel embarrassed for him like we would some lady in the grocery store who has slipped and fallen on a banana and then we're confronted with one of those uncomfortable situations where we don't want to stare... but find ourselves compelled to as she walks away... crying... with banana squished all over her butt... she looks like a partially squished bug limping away... and that's how we view Bye Bye John.
Posted by: Fishgrease at November 12, 2004 01:56 PM
*SLLLLAAAAAAP!*
Posted by: Fishgrease at November 12, 2004 01:56 PM
What's it mean that the big cities and college towns of America all voted blue?
By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist
Friday, November 12, 2004
And what's so frighteningly cute in a slit-your-karmic-wrists sort of way about this whole election thing is how astoundingly vicious and ingrained and apparent the Great American Culture War has become, has evolved, has mutated and grown and smiled and is right now eating us alive and belching out a great cloud of regressive, conformist exhaust.
The stats bear it out. One look at this astounding 3-D map used by CBS News the day after the election (a.k.a.: "Black Wednesday") and you can see how the various cities and towns of America voted and you sit there and go oh my freaking God wouldja look at that, it's not blue state versus red state after all, but more like blue urban versus red rural, skyscraper versus church house, Chez Panisse versus Denny's.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2004/11/12/notes111204.DTL&nl=fix
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 01:57 PM
Good to hear Al admit the job approval polls are correct and can be trusted.
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 01:59 PM
Dr. Z,
~~~ Conspiracy theories are any thing and every thing that does not support the status quo. Regardless of the facts and the evidence that show that the real conspiracy theories are the establishments contrived worldview. ~~~
Wonderful!
Posted by: Fishgrease at November 12, 2004 01:59 PM
I've also corresponded with Dr. Cole steadily since before there was an MRR. Juan feels the same about MRR as we do about him. It is his favorite gig.
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Yes, I was directed to to a web site that contained a manifesto penned by you and Professor Cole. Seems when the two of you get your heads together it leads to some insightful predictions!
lol
Posted by: Bye Bye John at November 12, 2004 02:01 PM
ok, so I didn't get to play.
I DO remain...
(ala Old Al)
...Uncontested!
(eyebrow action)
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:01 PM
This is Your Story - The Progressive Story of America. Pass It On.
by Bill Moyers
Ideas have power � as long as they are not frozen in doctrine. But ideas need legs. The eight-hour day, the minimum wage, the conservation of natural resources and the protection of our air, water, and land, women's rights and civil rights, free trade unions, Social Security and a civil service based on merit � all these were launched as citizen's movements and won the endorsement of the political class only after long struggles and in the face of bitter opposition and sneering attacks. It's just a fact: Democracy doesn't work without citizen activism and participation, starting at the community. Trickle down politics doesn't work much better than trickle down economics. It's also a fact that civilization happens because we don't leave things to other people. What's right and good doesn't come naturally. You have to stand up and fight for it � as if the cause depends on you, because it does. Allow yourself that conceit - to believe that the flame of democracy will never go out as long as there's one candle in your hand.
So go for it. Never mind the odds. Remember what the progressives faced. Karl Rove isn't tougher than Mark Hanna was in his time and a hundred years from now some historian will be wondering how it was that Norquist and Company got away with it as long as they did � how they waged war almost unopposed on the infrastructure of social justice, on the arrangements that make life fair, on the mutual rights and responsibilities that offer opportunity, civil liberties, and a decent standard of living to the least among us.
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0610-11.htm
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 02:04 PM
~~~ Good to hear Al admit the job approval polls are correct and can be trusted. ~~~
Yep... ever since Al Franken got bitch slapped by this election... he's very nearly goddamned worthless. He's become a white, jewish, male Oprah and he'll soon find that his listeners have better things to do.
Posted by: Fishgrease at November 12, 2004 02:04 PM
What's it mean that the big cities and college towns of America all voted blue?
By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist
Friday, November 12, 2004
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It means it's a lot like the Truman/Dewey election of '48?
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 02:05 PM
~~ Good to hear Al admit the job approval polls are correct and can be trusted. ~~~
Yep... ever since Al Franken got bitch slapped by this election... he's very nearly goddamned worthless. He's become a white, jewish, male Oprah and he'll soon find that his listeners have better things to do.
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What do you expect? He's getting ready to run for the US Senate.
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 02:07 PM
Have you read this?
The Connection
How al Qaeda's Collaboration with Saddam Hussein Has Endangered America
by Stephen F. Hayes
In the wake of 9/11 no one knew when the next attack would come, or where it would come from. America's enemies seemed gathered on all sides, and for several nerve-racking months, we lived in fear that the perpetrators might be plotting another action or, worse, that our most dangerous enemies -- al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein's murderous regime in Iraq -- could be banding together against us.
The Bush administration and CIA director George Tenet warned against complacency and pointed to growing indications that al Qaeda and Iraq were in league. But their case was undercut by unnamed intelligence officials, skeptical politicians, and a compliant media. So America relaxed. A comforting consensus settled in: Osama bin Laden was an impassioned fundamentalist, Saddam a secular autocrat. The two would never, could never, work together. ABC News reported that there was no connection between them, and the New York Times said so too, and pretty soon just about everyone agreed.
Just about everyone was wrong.
In The Connection, Stephen Hayes draws on CIA debriefings, top-secret memos from our national intelligence agencies, and interviews with Iraqi military leaders and Washington insiders to demonstrate that Saddam and bin Laden not only could work together, they did -- a curious relationship that stretches back more than a decade and may include collaboration on terrorist acts, chemical-weapons training, and sheltering some of the world's most wanted radicals.
Stephen Hayes's bombshell Weekly Standard piece on this topic was cited by Vice President Cheney as the "best source of information" about the Saddam-al Qaeda connections. Now Hayes delves even deeper, exposing the inner workings of America's deadliest opponents and providing a clear-eyed corrective to reams of underreported, politicized, and just plain wrong information.
The Connection is both a gripping snapshot of the War on Terror and a case study in how bureaucratic assumptions and media arrogance can put us all at risk.
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Posted by: FYI at November 12, 2004 02:07 PM
i don't think franken has changed at all really, he always seemed more like a moderate for the most part. much more of a clinton fan then a kucinich or dean fan i would guess
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 02:07 PM
party tools
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:07 PM
OK, Joe, tell us how America thinks.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:08 PM
Yep... ever since Al Franken got bitch slapped by this election... he's very nearly goddamned worthless. He's become a white, jewish, male Oprah and he'll soon find that his listeners have better things to do.
Posted by: Fishgrease at November 12, 2004 02:04 PM
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Al and Sam, unlike Jeanine, still have any real world reputation and career to think about. They are not operating on some obscure Blog, but before the eyes of the world. Kook theories and radical positions do not improve your public image.
Posted by: Bye Bye John at November 12, 2004 02:08 PM
This is brutal.
None, joe. We love it.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:09 PM
Oh, good.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:10 PM
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2004/11/12/notes111204.DTL&nl=fix
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 01:57 PM
Out-fucking-standing
[...]
Yes indeed, the Culture War has now penetrated the highest corridors of power, and the red tide has stormed in, taken control, entrenched itself, demanded regression and rollbacks and a return to old-fashioned American values, the ones that demand you read the Bible and fear foreigners and keep your damn legs closed and your mouth shut and quit asking so many prickly questions that make the president blink all confused-like.
Yessir, I guess they showed those goddamn liberals. Guess they showed those damn college boys who's boss. Guess they showed those of us who are most at risk of terror attack and most open to change and most welcoming to the various variations of love and marriage and art and culture in this country who really owns the big stick.
How very unfortunate, then, that we are all to be beaten with it.
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 02:11 PM
Is Joe a hypnotist?
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 02:11 PM
gloom, gloom, gloom, gonzalas.
Man, he sold out.
His positions are a set up.
Sell out to the PIGS.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:11 PM
~~~ Yes, I was directed to to a web site that contained a manifesto penned by you and Professor Cole. Seems when the two of you get your heads together it leads to some insightful predictions! ~~~
1) Dr. Cole had no part in the Fishgrease Manifesto beyond inspiration. It would obviously have been much better if he'd HAD a part in it.
2) The Fishgrease Manifesto contained no pedictions. Can you get anything right? Do you EXPERIENCE life inaccurately or do you just not retain well?
3) The Fishgrease Manifesto was used by Paul Krugman, as first pointed out to me by Bill Scher. So parts of it must have been okay.
Jesus! Are you War Dog? Celticman?
Posted by: Fishgrease at November 12, 2004 02:13 PM
"quit asking so many prickly questions that make the president blink all confused-like"
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like the one today about is he going to ask
israel to stop their expansion into the west bank?
which he just totally avioded and pretended the question was "how many times can you fit the words "freedom" and "democracy" into a rambling incoherent responce?"
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 02:14 PM
This is the guy... who DIDN'T steal the election?
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:14 PM
Man... I have yet to hear ONE excuse for rolling over for THIS election.
Why CAN'T we COUNT THE VOTES!
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:16 PM
I LIKE STROM!
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:17 PM
3) The Fishgrease Manifesto was used by Paul Krugman, as first pointed out to me by Bill Scher. So parts of it must have been okay.
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So where can we reference this manifesto when we want to document the facts in Iraq?
Posted by: Bye Bye John at November 12, 2004 02:20 PM
Man, it's rustle, rustle, rustle today.
blog, blog, blog.
Sorry if that's too much, kiddies.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:20 PM
WE ar all doomed. The NAZIS control us all now.
Welcome to hell.
Posted by: We Are All Doomed at November 12, 2004 02:21 PM
Katrina... what is an Apocalypse?
I hear you people say that stuff all the time and I'm pretty sure none of you have much of a clue what you're talking about.
This mottocitizens.com dude does, though.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:22 PM
i don't think anyone's saying "roll over"
i just think they are being realistic
i'm sure they think all the votes should be counted, but if history has proven anything, it's that not much changes really. the votes are counted and maybe we get close enough for a recount, then that will be contested and so on ans so forth, and before you know it it's a year later and we have wasted our time
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 02:22 PM
ya pekkah;
it knows no big-ah-tree.
Posted by: Sperm Thurmond at November 12, 2004 02:23 PM
Hey, I got an idea! Instead of engaging idiotic, simpleton trolls, why don't you all post something that will help to get this country back?
Didn't you all learn anything from this election? Don't any of you wonder how much more effective we all would have been working that one more e-mail list, making one more call, distributing one more story?
The trolls are a CANCER. They have NO redeeming value, and don't give me the bullshit that it helps you argue in the real world. The real world has articulate people of differing views with positions they care about. None of this applies to these troll fuckers. They are here to bug YOU. They don't care what they say, just as long as they can keep you from doing the work that needs to be done and keep you focused on their stupid posts.
It comes down to this-if you engage them, you are helping them break down the Progressive movement with little to no effort. Fight as hard for us as they would on freerepublic.com.
If a troll posts something you know he pulled out of his ass, IGNORE HIM. He posts again, IGNORE HIM. He cries about his rights of free speech being violated, just remember you don't have to talk to everyone that comes up to you on the street-you can move away from the idiots there, and you can IGNORE THEM here.
Sometimes I get really pissed off at how easy is is for these unintelligent assholes to get the bright, articulate people here to slither down to their level.
Please don't do it, you all are smarter than that.
Thursday, November 11 at 2pm (PST) on KPFK 90.7fm Los Angeles, 98.7 in Santa Barbara, Green Party presidential candidate David Cobb declared that in all likelihood he would demand a recount of all the votes in the Presidential election in the state of Ohio. Since David Cobb's name appeared on the Ohio ballot, it is his legal right to ask for a statewide recount.
To hear Thursday’s KPFK interview with Green Party Presidential candidate David Cobb click here.
http://kpfk.org/
Posted by: Yoyodyne_John at November 12, 2004 02:23 PM
Not one "debunking" of the ELECTION FRAUD that I have heard.
K.! Joe, foisted by his own pitard! Sweet!
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:24 PM
SOME OF MY FAVorite post so far in this blog!!!
More Americans voted AGAINST Mr. Bush than any other Presidential candidate in the nation's history.
I don't get why Congress will appoint ANY Bush nominee.
There IS NO MANDATE!
Bush supporters are accomplices to mass murder, rape, and torture.
Posted by: voteSTOLEN at November 12, 2004 02:24 PM
mornin gang!
just caught up
with the ol bloggie.
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 12, 2004 02:25 PM
Right, he surpressed LEGAL DOCUMENTS, Joe.
Uhhh... the election?
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:25 PM
Posted by: FYI at November 12, 2004 02:07 PM
No, I haven't....but I'd wipe my ass with it, though! Try nicedoggie or the freepoids with that rag.
The Weekly/Daily Standard repuke/neocon/con hall-of-shame:
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Executive Editor
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Claudia Winkler
Managing Editor
J. Bottum
Books & Arts Editor
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Contributing Editors
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Posted by: at November 12, 2004 02:26 PM
What a fantasy!
Your democracy is over, Joe!
You guys are living in a dream world!
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:26 PM
P.J. O'Rourke.............<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Contributing Editor
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 02:26 PM
What a let down that clown was.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:28 PM
I wish Bush would have to serve in Bagdad.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:29 PM
and, what did they say?
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:29 PM
The religious freaks are attempting to gain control of the spiritual realm.
They want control,they dont want people using the astral world without permission from idiots like fucwell and buttcannon. No spiritual expierence for gays unless they produce terror.
If penis is the only gateway for spiritual expierences,Why wouldnt gay men be twice as spiritual as hetoridiots?
Gay men are sharks because they have two penises(claspers)
The truth is straight men are jelouse because they only have a nob and gay men have a clasper.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Posted by: toda lo at November 12, 2004 02:30 PM
goddamit! now he is shuld know beter than this. >:(
Rapper beats puppy on TV
11/11/2004 - 13:56:50
Public Enemy star Flavor Flav has incurred the wrath of animal lovers across America after beating a puppy on VH1 reality show The Surreal Life.
The gold-toothed rapper, real name William Drayton, decided to show his housemates on the show how to discipline a dog when the house puppy urinated on the floor.
His celebrity pals reeled in horror as he hit the dog on the nose with a rolled up newspaper, and now he could face legal action from a Hollywood animal rights group.
A spokesman for Last Chance For Animals says: "It sends out a bad message to people out there that this is the way you discipline a dog - by smacking him on the face.
"We will investigate and we'll file charges against this Flavor Flav."
If found guilty of a cruelty misdemeanour, the rapper could face a year in jail.
Meanwhile, VH1 bosses have been inundated with complaints from fans of the show who were upset by Flav's dog-beating.
Posted by: muck4doo at November 12, 2004 02:31 PM
My democracy is over when my trigger finger can no longer vote.
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 02:32 PM
last nite
i was sboxed
so bad i stopped
tryin to post anything.
Sammer u want some help bud?
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 12, 2004 02:33 PM
Public Enemy star Flavor Flav
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dammit it's "flava flav" not flavor
damn whiteys
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 02:33 PM
RE-CAGING THE LIZARDS
Kerry took a dive in the election race
now i've got egg on my face
bushpussy cheated like we knew he would
our pseudo-democracy appears to be gone for good
i got drawn in, i even cared
kerry quit, didn't care if the race was declared
both were cousins, and were skull and bones
america collapses, world calls in its loans
the grand result of a well thought out plan
manipulate the masses, they all pay the Man
one world currency, one world police
micro-chipped population, all freedoms cease
manipulate the dummies, divide and rule
dumb down the masses, don't fund the schools
propaganda is the news and up is down
democracy's in the past, bunnypants wears the crown
history repeats itself, the masses never learn
salem witch trials are coming back, they want everyone to burn
the crooks and lizards rule us all by fear
we evolve right past them as they fight to split the spoils
and then we're in the clear
george bushpussy couldn't finish hitler's poop
c'mere judith miller, i've got your scoop
half-wits, nitwits, dipshits and dumb twits
lizards, politicians and bankers can eat shit
we're not afraid, we poop out our fear
the love vibration scares them just like a mirror
they're on the wrong side of history, it's the evolution of the soul
these scum can't touch us now even with a ten foot pole
good riddance lizards, and cRapture heads
go shape-shift back to your cages before your skin all sheds
the truth comes out via the internets
you rule us no more, you become our pets.
LOVE reduces fear to nothing. LOVE is a stronger vibration. This is an actual fact.
Hate is merely fear of the unknown. Therefore, with fear eliminated, hate vanishes.
Posted by: caught in our own loop, and...the loop is in the poop at November 12, 2004 02:34 PM
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 02:32 PM
nice. well thought out.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:34 PM
~~~ So where can we reference this manifesto when we want to document the facts in Iraq? ~~~
I took the site down. It was with a premium provider and I wasn't using half the features I was paying for. I spent all my spare money on Kerry pre-election and now I'm sending every spare dime to blackboxvoting.org
What do you mean, "when we want to document the facts in Iraq"?
Again, the Fishgrease Manifesto contained no predictions! Can you read? In fact, Bush has so thoroughly fucked Iraq up that the Manifesto is now irrelevant... as are ANY ideas beyond just pulling our troops and bringing them home. Things can be broke beyond repair. We can't put humpty back together again.
Now... this is the last I'll respond to you. I don't discuss politics with cretins. You fooled me for a little while... changing your nick from War Dog or Celticman or whatever it used to be so that we might pay attention to you. No more.
Posted by: Fishgrease at November 12, 2004 02:34 PM
Bush wants to protect a child's life so that he can draft it at age 18 and send it to go die in an unwinnable Oil Crusade.
Occupations can last hundreds of years...But they will always fail.
We are doomed.
If only americans had read a history book and not listened to HErr Limbaugh and Herr hannity.
Fools...
Posted by: Bush The FUHRER at November 12, 2004 02:34 PM
AL!!!
Why do you ignore the rest of the country!!
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:35 PM
MSNBC Vote Fraud Video 11/12
http://www.truthout.org/multimedia.htm
We must reclaim morality from reactionary fetishists
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1348341,00.html
$100,000 Reward for Evidence of Vote Fraud
http://www.jtmp.org/
Posted by: voteSTOLEN at November 12, 2004 02:36 PM
SEE!!!
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:36 PM
muddle, muddle excuse, escuse.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:36 PM
Yes?
anything?
What Bullsh*t.
Al, CRIMINALS!!
you suckers.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:37 PM
Bla, bla, muddle, muddle no...
STOLE FOR A LONG TIME
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:38 PM
And, everywhere else in America?
This is NO DEBUNKING.
This is BULL
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:39 PM
"Is Joe a hypnotist?"
LOL!
Strange, I like Joe Conason, find his writing excellent, appreciate his reasoning, and love the sound of his voice, but it does have a soporific effect on me.
I think folks are too hard on Franken. He is more moderate than most of the hosts on AAR, but I think we need some "gateway" liberals. Some folks after listening to Fox and Rush for years need to be eased into facts and different ways of thinking. Franken's not my cup of tea at all, but I'm very glad he has a radio show.
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 02:39 PM
This is crap!
Cause this idiot is at a college?
F*ck that.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:40 PM
No AL!
It's NOT all about certain counties in Florida or Ohio. Its about the black boxes!
And go down there and FIND me 100 Dixiecrats from each of those counties! There should be tens of thousands! You're taking the first wingnut explanation and running with it!
What happened to you Al?
Posted by: Fishgrease at November 12, 2004 02:40 PM
SO COUNT THE VOTE!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:40 PM
voting iregularities florida
http://www.votersunite.org/electionproblems.asp?sort=date&selectstate=FL&selectproblemtype=ALL
voting iregularities all states
http://www.votersunite.org/electionproblems.asp?sort=date&selectstate=ALL&selectproblemtype=ALL
also this item from daily kos:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/10/1172/9052
Dr. Avi Rubin is currently Professor of Computer Science at John Hopkins University. He "accidently"got his hands on a copy of the Diebold software program--Diebold's source code--which runs their e-voting machines.
Dr. Rubin's students pored over 48,609 lines of code that make up this software. One line in partictular stood out over all the rest:
#defineDESKEY((des_KEY8F2654hd4"
All commercial programs have provisions to be encrypted so as to protect them from having their contents read or changed by anyone not having the key..The line that staggered the Hopkin's team was that the method used to encrypt the Diebold machines was a method called Digital Encryption Standard (DES), a code that was broken in 1997 and is NO LONGER USED by anyone to secure prograns.F2654hd4 was the key to the encryption. Moreover, because the KEY was IN the source code, all Diebold machines would respond to the same key. Unlock one, you have then ALL unlocked.
I can't believe there is a person alive who wouldn't understand the reason this was allowed to happen. This wasen't a mistake by any stretch of the imagination. This was a fixed election, plain and simple.
This second coup d'etat is either stopped now or America ceases to be.
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 12, 2004 02:41 PM
LIKE THE DEMOCRATS WHO ROLLED OVER!!
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:41 PM
As your New Attorney General I look forward to implanting you with RFID tracking chips and arresting you without counsel and sending you off to be tortured, beaten, and attacked by rabid dogs.
Long live freedom.
Your Attorney General,
Herr Generalisimo Gonzalez
Posted by: Herr Gonzalez at November 12, 2004 02:41 PM
George W. Bush’s vote tallies, especially in the key state of Florida, are so statistically stunning that they border on the unbelievable.
Posted by: voteSTOLEN at November 12, 2004 02:41 PM
Well, you have not convinced me.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:41 PM
this is laughable.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:42 PM
Bush, Rove... wouldn't ORGANIZE this nonsense.
What about the REST of America.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:43 PM
Just the word specious, does not make something specious.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:43 PM
Now... this is the last I'll respond to you. I don't discuss politics with cretins. You fooled me for a little while... changing your nick from War Dog or Celticman or whatever it used to be so that we might pay attention to you. No more.
Posted by: Fishgrease at November 12, 2004 02:34 PM
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I am not War Dog or Celticman although I have read their notes on your Fishgrease Manifesto. But I suppose I am confusing that Tab with the Tab on your predictions. I beg your pardon. She would not want me to offend you.
Posted by: Bye Bye John at November 12, 2004 02:44 PM
You think, our government by what this clonw thinks?
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:44 PM
According to the exit polls Kerry was showing a 1% popular vote margin over Bush. But more importantly he was shown leading by a nose in Florida and a solid 4% in Ohio. Because of the way the Electoral College system works this meant that he had almost certainly won.
The polls have significant sized samples in all states and ask actual voters who they actually voted for and so are traditionally very accurate.
In 2004 just like in 2000 Fox news called Ohio to Bush before the counting had finished.
Posted by: voteSTOLEN at November 12, 2004 02:44 PM
phone dude, you're fired as my brain.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:45 PM
nobody knew that one, phone dude.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:45 PM
The cost argument...
Return the damn machines, get a refund, and return to ALL paper ALL the time.
I thought electronic voting was inevitable.
I was foolish.
"last nite
i was sboxed
so bad i stopped
tryin to post anything."
Me too.
Hiya aptly-named Sunshine Jim :)
Posted by: Cat Chew at November 12, 2004 02:46 PM
EXCEPT NOW!!!!
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:46 PM
You want evidence?
We've better statistical evidence (a more causational relationship) showing election fraud in Bush's favor than we do for Global Warming!
Shouldn't that be enough to get the FBI involved, dip shit?
Posted by: Fishgrease at November 12, 2004 02:46 PM
unconvinced would be mild.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:47 PM
voting machine solutions:
paper receipts.
open source software.
get rid of currupt officials.
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 12, 2004 02:47 PM
itn time to go vote again with dilbert! make shure to go and be heard!:
It's time for the third-annual Weasel Poll. Vote for your favorite weasel in each category below.
Remember that weasels are the people who tried to get away with something, not just the people you hate.
Voting will end on December 1, 2004 and the winners will be announced on December 7, 2004.
The nominees are...
http://www.comics.com/comics/dilbert/shop/html/weasel_poll_2004.html
Posted by: muck4doo at November 12, 2004 02:48 PM
no matter if this comfortable Rich Democrat has been duped.
There is lots of evidence.
We need to focus on this TRUTH!!!
We can't work with these criminals, this IS a real problem.
Walter is an idiot.
It doesn't HURT you FOOLS. You lost your democracy.
They STOLE it. You won't even COUNT THE VOTES.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:50 PM
47 State Exit Poll Analysis Confirms Swing Anomaly
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0411/S00142.htm
Posted by: voteSTOLEN at November 12, 2004 02:51 PM
Hey, I got an idea! Instead of engaging idiotic, simpleton trolls, why don't you all post something that will help to get this country back?
Didn't you all learn anything from this election? Don't any of you wonder how much more effective we all would have been working that one more e-mail list, making one more call, distributing one more story?
The trolls are a CANCER. They have NO redeeming value, and don't give me the bullshit that it helps you argue in the real world. The real world has articulate people of differing views with positions they care about. None of this applies to these troll fuckers. They are here to bug YOU. They don't care what they say, just as long as they can keep you from doing the work that needs to be done and keep you focused on their stupid posts.
It comes down to this-if you engage them, you are helping them break down the Progressive movement with little to no effort. Fight as hard for us as they would on freerepublic.com.
If a troll posts something you know he pulled out of his ass, IGNORE HIM. He posts again, IGNORE HIM. He cries about his rights of free speech being violated, just remember you don't have to talk to everyone that comes up to you on the street-you can move away from the idiots there, and you can IGNORE THEM here.
Sometimes I get really pissed off at how easy is is for these unintelligent assholes to get the bright, articulate people here to slither down to their level.
Please don't do it, you all are smarter than that.
Thursday, November 11 at 2pm (PST) on KPFK 90.7fm Los Angeles, 98.7 in Santa Barbara, Green Party presidential candidate David Cobb declared that in all likelihood he would demand a recount of all the votes in the Presidential election in the state of Ohio. Since David Cobb's name appeared on the Ohio ballot, it is his legal right to ask for a statewide recount.
To hear Thursday’s KPFK interview with Green Party Presidential candidate David Cobb click here.
http://kpfk.org/
Posted by: Yoyodyne_John at November 12, 2004 02:52 PM
"There are dead women and children lying on the streets. People are getting weaker from hunger. Many are dying from their injuries because there is no medical help left in the city whatsoever. Some families have started burying their dead in their gardens." And other things you won't hear from the corporate press embeds sticking close to the US force now in the process of leveling a city similar in size and population to Toledo or Buffalo or Newark or Omaha City. (12 November 2004)
Posted by: eyewitness in Fallujah at November 12, 2004 02:53 PM
No Fun
No fun my babe no fun
No fun my babe no fun
No fun to hang around
Feeling that same old way
No fun to hang around
Freaked out for another day
No fun my babe no fun
No fun my babe no fun
No fun to be around
Walking by myself
No fun to be alone
In love with nobody else
Well maybe go out maybe stay home
maybe call Mom on the telephone
Well come on, well come on,
well come on..........
Posted by: IGGY and THE STOOGES at November 12, 2004 02:54 PM
everything he said about florida was crap.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:54 PM
the weasels a cutie!
als soundin way stressed,
joes always a good source.
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 12, 2004 02:54 PM
"voting machine solutions:
paper receipts.
open source software.
get rid of currupt officials."
I dunno, the third thing seems impossible ;)
I now think that lots of paper ballots, and volunteer counters on site at each polling place, and many witnesses would be best of all.
Funny, I don't look like a Luddite.
Posted by: Cat Chew at November 12, 2004 02:54 PM
Who knows? We'll never know?
Two states?
What about the rest of America?
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:55 PM
The ONLY Answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Paper ballots ONLY for national elections. These ballots are counted by HUMANS (including Dems and Reps).... ONLY!
This is the only real solution.
Yes... the human counters can be corrupted but if they were corrupted in large enough numbers to make a difference... it COULDN'T stay hidden... and so would not be seriously considered.
Posted by: Fishgrease at November 12, 2004 02:55 PM
troublesome.
you guys.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:56 PM
I call on AAR programers and webmasters to try this if its possible-
How about some sort of ignore option,that we can use to personally to block the troll trash, this might require some smal bit of sign up,before blogging
Posted by: voteSTOLEN at November 12, 2004 02:56 PM
Instead of talking about what they did, it's time to start talking about what we will do to take back Congress & the White House.
Posted by: frngy at November 12, 2004 02:56 PM
totals?
No numbers, this year.
They're tricky mugs.
Long CIA history, why are you ignoring that?
It happens to be FACT everyone is IGNORING.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:57 PM
and I love you all, kiddies.
Just holding your feet to the fire.
Posted by: rustle of luv at November 12, 2004 02:58 PM
As long as party hacks control elections there will be voting fraud. Elections should be controlled and monitored by non-partisans, the civil service.
Posted by: frngy at November 12, 2004 02:58 PM
Next they'll be sorting out us "blues" by political affiliation and zip code! Could you imagine the absentee & provisional ballots that were signed being used for a DB? Remember, the "bad" Crown Vics have the little tiny wheel covers over the lug nuts and sometimes have that tell-tale antenna & driver's-side search light.
Panel Says Census Move on Arab-Americans Recalls World War II Internments
SUITLAND, Md., Nov. 9 - The Census Bureau's decision to give to the Department of Homeland Security data that identified populations of Arab-Americans was the modern-day equivalent of its pinpointing Japanese-American communities when internment camps were opened during World War II, members of an advisory board told the agency's top officials Tuesday.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/10/politics/10census.html?oref=login&ex=buzzflash
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 03:00 PM
eya catchu
a good afternoon to ya!
ya but getting rid of blackwell
would be a real benefit.
so much for democracy.
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 12, 2004 03:01 PM
How about some sort of ignore option,that we can use to personally to block the troll trash, this might require some smal bit of sign up,before blogging
Posted by: voteSTOLEN at November 12, 2004 02:56 PM
Please please please pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze NO !!!
Me, Frankie, Celtie, Bye Bye & Fungie would be SO HURT !!! Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze Sam show mercy ! Well, ok, Frank you can have.
Posted by: War Dawgg at November 12, 2004 03:02 PM
"ya but getting rid of blackwell
would be a real benefit."
I agree, but there's always an understudy weasel in the wings.
Posted by: Cat Chew at November 12, 2004 03:03 PM
Did you hear the guest that Al Franken just had on? "There was no systematic effort to steal the election," he said. I find that Al Franken's cowardly behavior in this matter disgusting. Please do not listen to this propaganda. As a matter of fact, send Al an email and tell if to shut the hell up.
ofrankenfactor@airamericaradio.com
Posted by: edna ellen poe at November 12, 2004 03:03 PM
hey does anyone know of a site where i can purchase a "bush is not my president" t-shirt, button, sticker?...thanks
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 03:04 PM
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1106-30.htm
Evidence Mounts That The Vote May Have Been Hacked
by Thom Hartmann
Posted by: Alex van Deelen at November 12, 2004 03:05 PM
(from just before the elections
have'nt sent the results to sam yet)
eya gang
roundin up a bloggie tech crew
for us if anybody is still interested.
Movable type 3.1 is the bloggie
engine. i'd like to be able to
post a new page when it poops
out or gets slow. be good to
discuss what we want and
how to do the set ups if
we want bells and whistles.
we can put in small pix possibly
ignore functions for those not wanting
to read the trolls, a consistent simple
link post and get the speed up to snuff.
bet if we worked at it we could talk Sammer
into a zootier engine as well. phpbb is lovely.
so for a while if you're interested we can
kick it around and see what we come up
with. any suggestions are welcome and
i'll save any comments regarding it.
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 17, 2004 12:06 AM
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 12, 2004 03:07 PM
Have you read this?
Study of Revenge
The First World Trade Center Attack and Saddam Hussein's War against America
By Laurie Mylroie
AEI Press (Washington)
Publication Date: January 2001
Hardcover
ISBN: 0844741698
Price: $ 24.95
The destruction of the twin towers of the World Trade Center and the attack on the Pentagon--all within one hour on September 11, 2001--demonstrate America’s shocking vulnerability to terrorism. But the terrorists’ war against America actually started eight years earlier, when the mysterious terrorist mastermind Ramzi Yousef bombed the World Trade Center in an attempt to fell the buildings. His attacks were viewed as the harbinger of a new terrorism, carried out by an elusive enemy driven by religious fanaticism to unprecedented hatred of the United States. But is that perception accurate?
In Study of Revenge: The First World Trade Center Attack and Saddam Hussein's War against America, Laurie Mylroie argues that this "new terrorism," supposedly the work of "loose networks" of Muslim extremists, is nothing other than old-fashioned, state-sponsored terrorism in a new disguise. The author is the only person to plow through the copious evidence from the first attack on the World Trade Center and to combine that with information from the intelligence community and from personal interviews she has conducted. She gleans from her extensive research that Iraq has been working with and using Islamic extremists such as Osama bin Laden in its own ongoing war against America.
Mylroie chronicles how, time after time, the Clinton administration focused on the extremist freelancers and vowed to bring the perpetrators to justice while it turned a blind eye to the evidence that Iraq was also involved. Her real-life detective story reveals the split between New York and Washington that emerged during the investigation and tells a terrifying tale of an America left exposed and vulnerable following the mishandling of the first attack on the World Trade Center, which was once the most ambitious terrorist attack attempted on U.S. soil.
In a new post-September 11 foreword to Study of Revenge
Posted by: FYI at November 12, 2004 03:08 PM
Laurie Mylroie is a neo-con dolly and toolslut.
I have scraped more factual items off my shoe.
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 03:11 PM
i know the idea has been brought up before
but an optional chat room would be a decent soulution for everyone freakin about the trolls
i doubt any of them would take the time to sign up then
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 03:11 PM
Once again... Al Franken misses the entire fucking point. Hey, I know there's very little chance we'll find strong enough evidence to overturn this election. Where the majority of the fraud took place... the unauditable voting devices... astoundingly... there cannot BE any evidence. Why do Republicans resist giving these up for future elections? Any answer to that question other than FRAUD or CORRUPTION is so gullible as to be comedy.
Without the FBIs help (unlikely), the best we're going to be able to do this time around is to get enough Democrats angry to change the system. How can angry Democrats do that?
Well, those of us most angry are the very same ones who supported Kerry most fiercely with our dollars and our time. Repair the system or we withdraw! Al Franken and all the liberal bloggers who are ignoring us right now... WE ARE MANY and WE WILL NOT HELP WITH ANOTHER ELECTION UNTIL YOU JOIN US AND REPAIR THIS BROKEN ELECTION SYSTEM!
WE KNOW we can't change this outcome! WE WANT to fix the system! So take your irrelevant, mythical DIXIECRATS and shove them up your ass!
Posted by: Fishgrease at November 12, 2004 03:12 PM
River, river carry me on
Living river carry me on
River, river carry me on
To the place where I come from
So deep, so wide, will you take me on your back for a ride
If I should fall, would you swallow me deep inside
River, show me how to float
I feel like I’m sinking down
Thought that I could get along
But here in this water
My feet won’t touch the ground
I need something to turn myself around
Going away, away towards the sea
River deep, can you lift up and carry me
Oh roll on though the heartland
’til the sun has left the sky
River, river carry me high
’til the washing of the water make it all alright
Let your waters reach me like she reached me tonight
Letting go, it’s so hard
The way it’s hurting now
To get this love untied
So tough to stay with thing
’cause if I follow through
I face what I denied
I get those hooks out of me
And I take out the hooks that I sunk deep in your side
Kill that fear of emptiness, loneliness I hide
River, oh river, river running deep
Bring me something that will let me get to sleep
In the washing of the water will you take it all away
Bring me something to take this pain away!!!!
Posted by: Mel at November 12, 2004 03:14 PM
Wow, a book about why Clinton didn't protect us from Osama on 9/11! What a cliff hanger. I can't IMAGINE why he didn't protectus! That MONSTER! Clinton is in league with Osama, so ALL LIBERALS ARE TERRORISTERS!!!
ALL GIRLS ARE NANCYPANTTSERS!
ALL GIRLS ARE LIBERAL ELITE TERRORISTERS!
ALL MANLY REPUBLICAN MEN MUST DESTROY ALL GIRLS!
RAWR! RAWR! PUTT PUTT PUTT! DOOODLY-DOOOO! RAWR!
Posted by: A Thrusty and Potent Republickan Manny-Man at November 12, 2004 03:14 PM
Have you read this?
At Any Cost:
How Al Gore Tried to Steal the Election
by Bill Sammon
Regnery Publishing, Inc.; ISBN: 0895262274
Hardcover - 256 pages (May 15, 2001)
NASHVILLE-It was late on election night, and Al Gore was furious. He wasn’t supposed to lose. So, in the wee hours, the signal was given… triggering the most outrageous attempt at political larceny in U.S. history.
Washington Times reporter Bill Sammon blows the lid off the biggest presidential election story ever, and tells all in At Any Cost: How Al Gore Tried to Steal the Election. It reveals never-before-published evidence of:
Gore votes being created out of thin air,
how determining the voters’ “intent” allowed re-counts to be distorted in Gore’s favor,
throwing out Bush votes-mainly from overseas military personnel-even as the Gore team called for “counting every vote,
inflaming racial tensions by inventing voter intimidation cases, and
forcing our democratic election process into the arena of lawyers and lawsuits.
At Any Cost reads like a political thriller. It exposes all the behind-the-scenes manipulation and courtroom maneuvering that turned Florida’s election upside down. At Any Cost reveals:
the ultra partisan rulings of the Florida Supreme Court,
the TV networks “calling” Florida for Gore before the polls had even closed,
the plot to blackmail GOP Electors, and
why Al Gore’s wholesale assault on our democratic process will poison the air in Washington for years to come.
Price: $16.95
Posted by: FYI at November 12, 2004 03:14 PM
Sam and Janeane:
I have a suggestion for a lefty religious type who would make a great guest: Stanley Hauerwas, his most recent book is called Performing the Faith: Bonhoeffer and the Practice of Non-violence
Posted by: Chance at November 12, 2004 03:16 PM
"Without the FBIs help (unlikely), the best we're going to be able to do this time around is to get enough Democrats angry to change the system. How can angry Democrats do that?"
I like that Bev Harris FOIA action requested data from all over the US. We need some riled-up Republicans too.
Hey Mel! Good to see you, so to speak!
Posted by: Cat Chew at November 12, 2004 03:17 PM
Have you read Mein Kamph, about how Jews are eating the Christian Babies of Germany? Oh my!
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 03:17 PM
randi rite on this afternoon!
we'll see what she has to say.
think this is a repeat tho,
was'nt she takin today off?
eya catchu,
could'nt hurt to anticipate
who the next weasel lined up is and
keep track. ignorin the problem has been
the REAL problem here in the states.
whats disturbin folks is they
expect to fix this easy
after 30 yrs. of
ignoring it.
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 12, 2004 03:18 PM
Hey Cat Chew... What's on tap for today?
Posted by: Mel at November 12, 2004 03:19 PM
WE KNOW we can't change this outcome! WE WANT to fix the system! So take your irrelevant, mythical DIXIECRATS and shove them up your ass!
Posted by: Fishgrease at November 12, 2004 03:12 PM
Fishgrease, I do agree with you, but voter fraud with the complicity of the administration is a good way to start impeachment proceedings.
Posted by: Yoyodyne_John at November 12, 2004 03:21 PM
Have you read this?
Study of Revenge
The First World Trade Center Attack and Saddam Hussein's War against America
By Laurie Mylroie
AEI Press (Washington)
Posted by: FYI at November 12, 2004 03:08 PM
Ahhh, no, again. Less expensive toilet paper is readly available at my corner bodega, ass-wipe!
The fucking American Enterprise Institute...now there's a bunch prime wingnuts if there ever was one. Try again, troll boy.
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 03:22 PM
Nothing's on tap today.
Whoo-hoo!
Freedom, except for cleaning out the litter box so I don't find surprises later...
Posted by: Cat Chew at November 12, 2004 03:23 PM
Used to be, darkies knew their place. In BUSH AMERICA they will know it again. White men are here and winning and rule you, do as you're told. You exist to serve the ship of state. Row well, and live. Darkies of all tones and women will learn their place. There is no place for the fags. Either it's genetic and we remove them from the gene pool, or it's a mental illness and we end their drain on our culcher. God said kill all fags.
Posted by: The Spirit of 1776 at November 12, 2004 03:23 PM
RAWR! RAWR! PUTT PUTT PUTT! DOOODLY-DOOOO! RAWR!
Posted by: A Thrusty and Potent Republickkkan Manny-Man at November 12, 2004 03:14 PM
Patrioterer;
Is that YOU???!
Posted by: bibimimi at November 12, 2004 03:25 PM
Mmm, I'm eating Medditeranian for lunch.
I must have been Greek in a previous life.
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 03:25 PM
Have you read this?
Hegemony or Survival: America's Quest for Global Dominance (The American Empire Project)
by Noam Chomsky
From the world's foremost intellectual activist, an irrefutable analysis of America's pursuit of total domination and the catastrophic consequences that are sure to follow
The United States is in the process of staking out not just the globe but the last unarmed spot in our neighborhood-the heavens-as a militarized sphere of influence. Our earth and its skies are, for the Bush administration, the final frontiers of imperial control. In Hegemony or Survival , Noam Chomsky investigates how we came to this moment, what kind of peril we find ourselves in, and why our rulers are willing to jeopardize the future of our species.
With the striking logic that is his trademark, Chomsky dissects America's quest for global supremacy, tracking the U.S. government's aggressive pursuit of policies intended to achieve "full spectrum dominance" at any cost. He lays out vividly how the various strands of policy-the militarization of space, the ballistic-missile defense program, unilateralism, the dismantling of international agreements, and the response to the Iraqi crisis-cohere in a drive for hegemony that ultimately threatens our survival. In our era, he argues, empire is a recipe for an earthly wasteland.
Lucid, rigorous, and thoroughly documented, Hegemony or Survival promises to be Chomsky's most urgent and sweeping work in years, certain to spark widespread debate.
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 03:28 PM
time to break out em popcorn. theren trouble in paradise. also somone is shuld tell rove bush isnt runing for em 3rd term:
CHaiNEY PROTECTS RUMSFELD’S JOB UNTIL THE SPRING
White House Aides Want Him Out
By JAMIE DETTMER Staff Reporter of the Sun
WASHINGTON — Donald Rumsfeld is likely to remain at the Pentagon until the spring, enabling him to to stay in the administration through the Iraqi elections and advance his plans for transforming the American military, despite strong pressure from key White House political advisers for him to leave sooner.
According to well-placed Pentagon sources,emporor Vice President Chainey has argued the case for Mr. Rumsfeld to remain as defense secretary until at least the spring, and Mr. Chainey would prefer that Mr. Rumsfeld stayed longer.
Karl Rove and other White House asshats advisers, however, have maintained that Mr. Rumsfeld has become a political liability and will undermine possible improvement in relations between Washington and European allies, the sources said. “The White House political shop wants him out now,â€a senior Defense Department source said of Mr. Rumsfeld.
Much will depend on what happens with the national security adviser,Condoleezza Rice. Administration officials told The New York Sun that Ms. Rice, who spearheaded the White House’s decision a year ago to take command from the Pentagon of the American occupation of Iraq, wants to replace Mr. Rumsfeld.
Mr. Chainey and Mr. Rumsfeld are old friends who served together in the Ford administration, and the vice president was instrumental in getting Mr. Rumsfeld appointed defense secretary in the first place.
The two have generally been allied in policy fights against Secretary of State Colin Powell, who, a Pentagon official says, may remain several months after Mr. Rumsfeld has departed. Earlier this week, when a reporter asked President Bush if he would like Mr. Powell to stay and lead new peace efforts in the Middle East, Mr. Bush replied: “I’m proud of my secretary of state. He’s done a heck of a good job.â€
“No one i
Posted by: muck4doo at November 12, 2004 03:28 PM
Posted by: FYI at November 12, 2004 03:14 PM
FYI = real expensive toilet paper hawker
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 03:28 PM
I'm never here this early. Everybody seems angry. I'm listening to Peter Gabriel and cleaning up my music files.
Little Kitty surprises, huh? Sounds like fun. I was going to go out and take pictures of the city but its raining and I don't want to get wet.
Posted by: Mel at November 12, 2004 03:29 PM
Amen! The Foundering Fathers did not intend for us top be a country of kweers with greased up buttholes all perfumed and saucy like bitches! They would vomit to think of dicks pumping in and out of lean firm athletic man-cheeks, the mouth or butt kind of cheeks, either one! They wer not men of gayety, they were proud Christians who stood up tall and strong for what they knew was gocly, and remained firm in their resolve. They did not waver, even when they were seen as hard and unyeilding by their friends and neighbors and enemies and livestock! All that sweaty faggotry was not for the men who led this country to being above all others all at once!
Posted by: Porter Pulman at November 12, 2004 03:30 PM
*
97000 more voters in Ohio than
registered voters, amazing eh?
*
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 12, 2004 03:30 PM
Do you want attention, Porter Pulman?
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 03:32 PM
ooooops didnt get em source link. condi is want to take rumsfelds place:
Posted by: muck4doo at November 12, 2004 03:32 PM
Posted by: FYI at November 12, 2004 03:14 PM
So, FYI, why aren't the Republicans on board with making sure ALL our votes count?
Since you're obviously very concerned, you might want to donate some cash here, maybe $16.95:
http://helpamericarecount.org/
Posted by: Cat Chew at November 12, 2004 03:32 PM
hehe, i am a man of gayety
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 03:32 PM
Do you want attention, Porter Pulman?
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 03:33 PM
ROBERTO_JOSEPH MENGELA-GONZALES
Posted by: donutsforfatty at November 12, 2004 03:33 PM
Washington Times reporter Bill Sammon
Posted by: FYI at November 12, 2004 03:14 PM
The Washington Times is a daily newspaper published in Washington, D.C.. It was founded in 1982 as a conservative alternative to the Washington Post by members of the controversial Unification Church. It has lost well over $1 billion since its inception.
In 2003, Rev. Moon announced that the representatives of the five major religions -- as well as several dozen dead U.S. presidents communicating from the Spirit World -- declared him to be "the savior and messiah of humanity."
"The Washington Times will become the instrument in spreading the truth about God to the world"
-Rev. Sun Myung Moon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Times
NEVER post anything that has to do with the Wash. Times on this blog, sparky.
You might as well quote Dianetics.
Posted by: Yoyodyne_John at November 12, 2004 03:33 PM
Sam show mercy ! Well, ok, Frank you can have.
Posted by: War Dawgg at November 12, 2004 03:02 PM
Strike that Sam. Let us keep Frankie & you can have FYI. He is a complete idiot & we don't want him on our side.
Posted by: War Dawgg at November 12, 2004 03:34 PM
I assume that's what you want. You must be lonely.
If you wanted to discuss issues, you would not use inflamatory language.
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 03:34 PM
New
"The unexplained exit poll discrepancy"
Steven F. Freeman PhD
http://www.buzzflash.com/alerts/04/11/The_unexplained_exit_poll_discrepancy_v00k.pdf
Posted by: Nobody at November 12, 2004 03:35 PM
it's a joke ttc, it's called satire jeez
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 03:36 PM
Your fear of homosexuals is based on fear and ignorance.
Perhaps you should study how many famous and well-respected homosexuals there have been in history.
You also may want to look closely at your friends.
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 03:38 PM
Hey, I got an idea! Instead of engaging idiotic, simpleton trolls, why don't you all post something that will help to get this country back?
Didn't you all learn anything from this election? Don't any of you wonder how much more effective we all would have been working that one more e-mail list, making one more call, distributing one more story?
The trolls are a CANCER. They have NO redeeming value, and don't give me the bullshit that it helps you argue in the real world. The real world has articulate people of differing views with positions they care about. None of this applies to these troll fuckers. They are here to bug YOU. They don't care what they say, just as long as they can keep you from doing the work that needs to be done and keep you focused on their stupid posts.
It comes down to this-if you engage them, you are helping them break down the Progressive movement with little to no effort. Fight as hard for us as they would on freerepublic.com.
If a troll posts something you know he pulled out of his ass, IGNORE HIM. He posts again, IGNORE HIM. He cries about his rights of free speech being violated, just remember you don't have to talk to everyone that comes up to you on the street-you can move away from the idiots there, and you can IGNORE THEM here.
Sometimes I get really pissed off at how easy is is for these unintelligent assholes to get the bright, articulate people here to slither down to their level.
Please don't do it, you all are smarter than that.
Thursday, November 11 at 2pm (PST) on KPFK 90.7fm Los Angeles, 98.7 in Santa Barbara, Green Party presidential candidate David Cobb declared that in all likelihood he would demand a recount of all the votes in the Presidential election in the state of Ohio. Since David Cobb's name appeared on the Ohio ballot, it is his legal right to ask for a statewide recount.
To hear Thursday’s KPFK interview with Green Party Presidential candidate David Cobb click here.
http://kpfk.org/
Posted by: Yoyodyne_John at November 12, 2004 03:38 PM
I broke into your house last night
And left a note at your bedside
I'm far too shy to speak to you at school
You leave me numb and I'm not sure why
I find it easier to sit and stare
Than push my limbs out towards you right there
My heart is bursting in your perfect eyes
As blue as oceans and as pure as skies
I struggle for the words and then give up
My heads up with the birds on the t-hut
A little piece of mind that I know better
That the plain disgrace of all my letters
After that the floodgates opened up
And I fell in love with everyone I saw
Please take your time I'm not in any rush
And it's in everything I ever write
It's not as if I need the extra weight
Confused enough by life so thanks a lot
Lonely written words for company
Just raise the roof this once and follow me
Posted by: Mel at November 12, 2004 03:38 PM
eya Porter Pulman
ben and the boys were members
of something called the 'hellfire club'
check it out sometime.
eya mel, like yer first efforts
w/ the digital. looks like it is'nt that great
for low light work like my lil cheapie.
will you take some daylight shots
for me to look at? yer subject
matter is interesting.
me an ol photog
mainly portrait
and pin up stuff.
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 12, 2004 03:39 PM
~~~ I like that Bev Harris FOIA action requested data from all over the US. We need some riled-up Republicans too. ~~~
Bev Harris qualifies more for TRUE AMERICAN HERO than anyone else in this country right now. Her entire book is available free online at
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/
Its fairly short and reads like a good crime novel... except Bev provides proof that everything she writes is true. There is NO EXCUSE for Kos or Atrios or Chris Bowers (MYDD) or Al Franken commenting on this issue until they have read Bev's book.
A condensed and very well written treatment of Bev's experiences can be found as a chapter in Anthony Lappé's (GNN) book "TRUE LIES".
If these people who are supposedly on our side read either of these, they would quickly discover why many of their readers and listeners are scrolling past all their present opinions on strategy. They're discussing suff that just isn't relevant to us...
Try it!
Posted by: Fishgrease at November 12, 2004 03:39 PM
Also New
"Glitch causes Franklin Co. recount"
"BROOKVILLE, Ind. - Election equipment counted straight-party votes for Democratic candidates as Libertarian votes, an error that could affect election outcomes in as many as nine counties, the Richmond Palladium-Item reported today."
http://www.indystar.com/articles/3/193880-4433-093.html
Posted by: Nobody at November 12, 2004 03:40 PM
I struggle for the words and then give up
My heads up with the birds on the t-hut
A little piece of mind that I know better
That the plain disgrace of all my letters
I'm out... See you at showtime.
Posted by: Mel at November 12, 2004 03:40 PM
Late night on the blog is the most fun for me, too. More rambling, less hissing and spitting.
I am surprised and happy to see you at this time of day, Mel. Sorry about the crap weather. I was lurking and took a peep and some of your photos on your website one night. Particularly like You shooting yourself, and the ATM one, not sure why the ATM one appeals to me.
The last time I blogged with you, you asked me to let you know how I liked Going Upriver. I thought it was wonderful, but it made it much sadder later November 3rd. Still, it made me take heart that there are men and woman running for public office who don't suck ass!
Posted by: Cat Chew at November 12, 2004 03:40 PM
Have a fine day, Mel!
Posted by: Cat Chew at November 12, 2004 03:42 PM
Posted by: Nobody at November 12, 2004 03:40 PM
Hey there nobody, whats up
Posted by: voteSTOLEN at November 12, 2004 03:43 PM
I'm out of here too. Experiencing serious blog-lag, and intermittent ISP interruptions.
Looking forward to tonight's show. Cole last night, Zinn today, perfect run-up to the weekend as far as I'm concerned.
Enjoy yourselves, and play hard but play fair.
Posted by: Cat Chew at November 12, 2004 03:45 PM
good hustle N
enjoyed yer riff with j earlier
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 12, 2004 03:48 PM
I'm out too-bye, bloggonauts!
Posted by: Yoyodyne_John at November 12, 2004 03:48 PM
Sunny Jim... I will try to do just that as soon as the weather breaks here in NY. So far I don't like the camera that much. Good thing it wasn't too expensive.
Cat Chew... Yeah I've been in the dumps about JFK sorry I didn't see the movie. I like the ATM one too I don't know why.
I'm going to go.
Posted by: Mel at November 12, 2004 03:48 PM
Not enough of the one and too much of the other voteSTOLEN...you got any news?
Posted by: Nobody at November 12, 2004 03:49 PM
how can we secure these elections in the future? Obviously the electronic voting can not be trusted. Obviously we can not trust people to vote absentee because dead people can vote absentee. We have to stop illegal immigrants from voting. We have to stop felons from voting. We need to have people register to vote in person in a government office with documents proving they have the right to vote (birth certificate Etc.) and have a photo on this card.
Posted by: bosko at November 12, 2004 03:49 PM
Oh man...you all are going to leave me here with only Nobody for company?
What did I do to deserve this?
heh
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 03:51 PM
The most secure form of balloting...A paper and a pen
Posted by: Nobody at November 12, 2004 03:51 PM
bosko, i really doubt that illegal immagrants thoughts are "yay now i can vote" probably more along the lines of "yay now i can have almost a living wage etc.."
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 03:52 PM
Cya catchu, Yoyodyne_John
via con dios frends,
hope for the good!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 12, 2004 03:52 PM
so we shouldn't try to stop them?
Posted by: bosko at November 12, 2004 03:53 PM
Good articles on leftwing loons:
National Review
http://www.nationalreview.com/
The American Spectator
http://www.spectator.org/
The Weekly Standard
http://www.weeklystandard.com/
FrontPage Magazine
http://www.frontpagemag.com/
Human Events
http://www.human-events.com/
Townhall.com
http://www.townhall.com/
Wall Street Journal – Opinion Journal
http://www.opinionjournal.com/
Posted by: FYI at November 12, 2004 03:54 PM
cya mel
you can always send me pix an i'll work em over
with my photo ed proggies and send em back.
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 12, 2004 03:54 PM
Be careful there TTC...
Posted by: Nobody at November 12, 2004 03:54 PM
"Bush Sees Patriot Act Renewal As Key Goal"
"WASHINGTON -- Attorney General John Ashcroft is leaving but the top issues for the Justice Department are the same heading into President Bush's second term: persuading Congress to renew key parts of the anti-terrorism Patriot Act and continuing fundamental reforms at the FBI."
Posted by: Nobody at November 12, 2004 03:56 PM
eya TTC
N, paper and a pen fine with me!
(i love Oregon eh?)
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 12, 2004 03:58 PM
What would be a fair Patriot Act?
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 03:58 PM
i don't wanna
i don't wanna
i don't wanna picka nic
im no pic a ninny
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 03:58 PM
FYI = eff you, idiot
just like my little sister usta say...
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 03:59 PM
Eya right back at you Jim.
:-)
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 03:59 PM
TTC
the patriot acts were/are a scam bud.
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 12, 2004 04:00 PM
I love you all, I really do.
Posted by: I'm A Troll at November 12, 2004 04:00 PM
your logic falls apart rather early once you consider that an illegal alien isn't going to risk deportation to cast a vote that's not likely to mean jack...A felon?...same thing... attempting to commit ballot fraud is a felony and since you have to register before you vote there's a pretty big chance that you'll get caught and imprisoned for a chance at casting a ballot that's about meaningless...
Posted by: Nobody at November 12, 2004 04:01 PM
~~~ Fishgrease, I do agree with you, but voter fraud with the complicity of the administration is a good way to start impeachment proceedings. ~~~
Sure! I just want to make clear to the wimpier elements in the Democratic Party that our focus will not result in an all or nothing deal. Like I said... any solid proof (proof that would be enough for simpletons) might be long gone by now.
That... and if Bev DOES come up with proof good enough to boot Bush... we won't have to court all these wimpy Democrats then. You won't be able to beat them off with a stick! They'll want to take credit for as much as they possibly can!
Posted by: Fishgrease at November 12, 2004 04:04 PM
The Patriot act has been around for decades. In the 70's it was called the Crime Omnibus bill then in the 80's it was called the Family bill. Each time it came up to congress they would shoot it down. But now we have a conservative slant in congress and after sept 11th they finally passed the pig.
Okay, I'll try to stick with a nic, but it hurts.
-nacho
Posted by: Nacho Daddy at November 12, 2004 04:04 PM
Sarge, I'm only 18
I've got a ruptured spleen
And I always carry a purse
I got eyes like a bat
My feet are flat
My asthma's getting worse.
Think of my career
My sweetheart dear
My poor old invalid aunt
Cause I'm going to school
I ain't no fool
And I working at a defense plant.
Posted by: Draft Dodger at November 12, 2004 04:05 PM
What would be a fair Patriot Act?
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 03:58 PM
First & foremost: get rid of the simpy Bush-speak name.
Posted by: Lurker 3500001 at November 12, 2004 04:05 PM
Perhaps as written by whom they were written, but, we do need security.
I'll rephrase the question:
What aspects do you disagree with and are there any parts that you do agree with in the PA?
Second question,
If you had to write security legislation for the US, what would be your five main points?
I'm trying to get a clear picture of what is wrong with it as it is now as viewed by those in this blog.
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 04:05 PM
Yeap oregon got wise pretty quick...notice no ones claiming fraud or the possibility of it?...that's part of this that everyone seems to just pass over...We need to have faith in the process before we have faith in our government and frankly we do not, we can not, there is no faith in machines
Posted by: Nobody at November 12, 2004 04:05 PM
~~~ your logic falls apart rather early once you consider that an illegal alien isn't going to risk deportation to cast a vote that's not likely to mean jack...A felon?...same thing... attempting to commit ballot fraud is a felony and since you have to register before you vote there's a pretty big chance that you'll get caught and imprisoned for a chance at casting a ballot that's about meaningless... ~~~
Damned good point, Nobody.
Posted by: Fishgrease at November 12, 2004 04:07 PM
Join the GOP. The women in the GOP are lonely and sexually frustated. They will do ANYTHING for a decent orgasm, because all of their husbands are closeted gays.
Posted by: English Opium Eater at November 12, 2004 04:09 PM
One of my friends said he did ROTC during Vietnam...ran off to Canada!
Had me laughing...probably an old joke though.
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 04:09 PM
~~~ Join the GOP. The women in the GOP are lonely and sexually frustated. They will do ANYTHING for a decent orgasm, because all of their husbands are closeted gays. ~~~
How about if I had a decent orgasm? That counts for something doesn't it?
Posted by: Fishgrease at November 12, 2004 04:10 PM
The orgasm never stops....
Posted by: English Opium Eater at November 12, 2004 04:10 PM
scott peterson is guilty!!
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 04:11 PM
The system we had was fine...going in front of a judge before someones rights were violated was a crucial protection...You want me to write you a thesis on this too?...You want real security you spend the damned money on first resonders and port security...You want real security you stop pissing everyone on the planet off...There is no real security...any system designed by man can be subverted by man...any puzzle one man may make another man may solve...remove the impetus for the behavior...change the maze don't try and punish the rat
Posted by: Nobody at November 12, 2004 04:11 PM
who cares!!
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 04:12 PM
Know why we have to keep putting our soldiers into Iraq, then pull them back out, then put them back in again, then pull them out?
Because the cheap lazy arab bastards don't have a navy to fight, so we can't overwhelm them with our seamen!
HA HA HA, FAGALOOLIES!
Posted by: Porter Pulman at November 12, 2004 04:13 PM
Hello Boys, don't see any girls on right now.
I see we have ^^..^^ problems again.
Evidently they have nothing better to do. Must be out of work or lazy.
Just got home from work myself. This voter irregularities thing is growing...was on my local stations this AM and also on the local talk radio.
Posted by: tonid at November 12, 2004 04:13 PM
Fishgrease, the typical male response. As liberals, we must forgo our orgasm and make sure the lonely, dry river bed Republican women come like a river. Then she'll go crazy, and do anything we ask.
Posted by: English Opium Eater at November 12, 2004 04:13 PM
markos in the guardian...
Divide and rule ... for now
Bush may have steamrollered his way back into the White House, but his re-election will further galvanise the resurgence of progressive opposition, writes US blogger Markos Moulitsas
Wednesday November 3, 2004
George Bush has dismayed half the US public and, I'm sure, much of the world by apparently winning the election.
The race is not technically over. Ohio is not only desperately close, with hundreds of thousands of uncounted ballots technically still able to swing the election back to Kerry, but the number of voting irregularities in the state are guaranteed to make it a centre of litigation.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/markosmoulitsas/story/0,15139,1342263,00.html
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 04:14 PM
1st degree Lacy and 2nd degree Baby Connor murder
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 04:14 PM
I didn't do it, I'm innocent. The jury was unpatriotic!
Posted by: Scott Peterson at November 12, 2004 04:14 PM
Yes, I agree on the puzzle/challenge idea. I know I enjoyed finding ways around and into trouble in the old days.
Sad admission, I don't really know much about the PA. That's why I asked.
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 04:15 PM
we got taken down by box cutters?...guess what chump I can go out to my kiln and make a crap load of knives that can't be detected by even the most sophisticated xray scanner...extremely low tech beats extremely high tech....how about allowing the pilots to be armed once again...oh you didn't know that they used to be armed?...Ya see...the july before 911...the bush administration disallowed pilots to be armed...yes this is at the same time that ashcroft stopped flying commercial...
Posted by: Nobody at November 12, 2004 04:15 PM
1st degree Lacy and 2nd degree Baby Connor murder
--
Hmmm...good..causing the death of an unborn child: 2nd degree murder....very good indeed.
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 04:16 PM
Well Lacy has justice. Too bad the Iraqi people can't get this much attention.
Posted by: Cinderella at November 12, 2004 04:16 PM
Chunky chick next to me, alright! Women need to gain weight.
Posted by: English Opium Eater at November 12, 2004 04:16 PM
thank fucking "god" that is over, i wonder what the mainstream media will talk about now?
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 04:16 PM
eya FG
u been puttin up a good claim
of voting fraud, looks like whats happenin
is the libruls for the most part re-burying
heads in the sand again. @$%^%#@)*^^$%@!!!!
evry head in the sand is gonna cause a
crime to go unopposed.
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 12, 2004 04:17 PM
Lead story on all the networks tonight (Scotty Boy), then they'll get to Fallujah.
Posted by: English Opium Eater at November 12, 2004 04:17 PM
Is the verdict really in on the Peterson trial?
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 04:18 PM
Nobody... your point caused me to add "pens" to my solution, reposted below...
The ONLY Answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Paper ballots ONLY for national elections. These ballots are to be marked with a pen. These ballots are standard for the entire country. These ballots are counted by HUMANS (including Dems and Reps).... ONLY!
This is the only real solution.
Yes... the human counters can be corrupted but if they were corrupted in large enough numbers to make a difference... it COULDN'T stay hidden... and so would not be seriously considered.
Posted by: Fishgrease at November 12, 2004 04:19 PM
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 04:16 PM
you are dreaming if you think you'll ever get roe v wade overturned. keep dreaming fuctard.
no one will decide what happens to my body but me.
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 04:19 PM
For depriving America of a citizen soldier, a fighter in the war on not having wars, and a nameless cog in the wallet of industry, he should be charged with treason, and be sent to the prote reclamation vats. When are you bitches going to accpet your life role as assigned by the master race?
THERE THEY GO, THERE GOES THE MASTER RACE
THEY'RE DEMONS ON WHEEL....
GO, MASTER RACER, GO!
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 04:20 PM
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 04:12 PM
people who want to overturn row v wade care.
lacy's family cares.
scott's family cares.
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 04:22 PM
...what the mainstream media will talk about now?
Liza with a Z
Posted by: Nacho D at November 12, 2004 04:22 PM
Yep... Peterson found guilty.
Who says California isn't reality based?
Posted by: Fishgrease at November 12, 2004 04:22 PM
Since all the weird vote stuff in florida happened on paper scanned ballots...that have to be signed...couldn't someone compare a list of names against how they voted,how they were registered and then ask them if this was correct?
Posted by: Nobody at November 12, 2004 04:23 PM
At least he's kind of pro-choice...
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/11/bush.cabinet/index.html
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 04:23 PM
Very small consolation.
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 04:24 PM
republicans...punish the rat...democrats...change the maze
Posted by: Nobody at November 12, 2004 04:26 PM
Yes, pen and paper for voting.
The best novels were written by hand.
A dude just sat next to me, heavy smoker!!!
ACK!!!!
Posted by: English Opium Eater at November 12, 2004 04:26 PM
Why do Dems take advice from the Repubs?
It's like Jews takin' advice from the Nazis!
ZING!!!!
Posted by: English Opium Eater at November 12, 2004 04:27 PM
"Police used Taser gun to subdue 6-year-old student wielding piece of glass"
"Miami-Dade police tasered a 6-year-old boy who was wielding a piece of glass in a school office and threatening to hurt himself, officials confirmed Thursday."
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/10157579.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp
Posted by: Nobody at November 12, 2004 04:28 PM
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 04:12 PM
people who want to overturn row v wade care.
lacy's family cares.
scott's family cares.
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 04:22 PM
That's right libbies, we are CARE BEARS.
And please, FYI, don't agree with me, yer crampin my style junior.
Posted by: War Dawgg at November 12, 2004 04:28 PM
N, well and simply put!
what do you put in clay to make it more ductile?
Eya Tonid, coffee and a neck rub?
good to read ya. could'nt post last night
cuzz a de sboxer probs. the bloggie
probs have lost us more peeps than
any of the 'flaming' ever has.
we got some great new posters.
when Eugene Oregon got the show.
peeps in 'bluegene' way interestin.
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 12, 2004 04:28 PM
Word is that the End of Days we talk about is not that painful-- for the planet that is-- because we are going to rid the human species from it. Goodbye, cruel world. Get ready for a harsh winter in a world gone mad. Global warming is the ultimate WMD.
Posted by: RD at November 12, 2004 04:28 PM
you are dreaming if you think you'll ever get roe v wade overturned. keep dreaming fuctard.
no one will decide what happens to my body but me.
-----------------------------------------
uhhhhhhhhhm what????
i was talking about the peterson case
and that i was tired of the sensationalizing
of the news, people are murdered every day
so i think it's wrong that one case gets so much focus
said nothing about abortion fucking weirdo
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 04:29 PM
Give me an example of specific parts and what you would do differently, please.
(I promise that I'm not pumping your mind for a homework assignment...just curious)
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 04:29 PM
I love you all, I really do.
Posted by: I'm A Troll at November 12, 2004 04:00 PM
Are you one of those lil' plastic dolls with yellow eyes and wild hot pink hair?
Posted by: bibimimi at November 12, 2004 04:29 PM
WEBLOGS OF THE NORTHERN ALLIANCE
HughHewitt.com
http://www.hughhewitt.com/
Power Line
http://powerlineblog.com/
Captain’s Quarters
http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/
Fraters Libertas
http://www.fraterslibertas.com/
Lileks.com
http://www.lileks.com/
Shot In The Dark
http://www.shotinthedark.info/
SCSU Scholars
http://www.scsuscholars.com/
Posted by: FYI at November 12, 2004 04:30 PM
Calif. Jury Finds Peterson Guilty of Killing Wife
3 minutes ago Top Stories - Reuters
REDWOOD CITY, Calif. (Reuters) - After a trial that attracted nationwide attention, California fertilizer salesman Scott Peterson (news - web sites) was found guilty on Friday in the Christmas Eve 2002 first-degree murder of his pregnant wife and second-degree murder of his unborn child.
Peterson, 32, was charged with murdering Laci Peterson (news - web sites), who was eight month's pregnant at the time of her death. The bodies washed ashore in April 2003 along an area of the San Francisco Bay where Peterson said he was fishing the day Laci disappeared.
He could face the death penalty in the case, although sentencing will take place at a later date.
Posted by: tonid at November 12, 2004 04:30 PM
Now you will see people start fighting what bush wants to do. He's a lame duck president now.
He won't find it as easy as he thinks to change things.
**
US states defy Bush over greenhouse gases
By Saeed Shah
12 November 2004
Individual American states are putting together a system to cap and trade greenhouse gas emissions, despite the Bush administration's opposition to the Kyoto protocol on global warming. Such a measure was backed by John Kerry during the recent election campaign.
The regional-level initiative, led by the Republican governor of New York, George Pataki, aims to be able to announce the details of a scheme by April next year. Nine north-eastern and mid-Atlantic states are taking part, with several other states and some Canadian provinces involved as "observers" in the process.
The scheme could even link up with the emissions controls and trading system being established by the EU next year, allowing emission allowances to be traded across the Atlantic. It is understood that informal talks have already taken place between environmental officials of the US states and their European Commission counterparts.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=582065
Posted by: tonid at November 12, 2004 04:32 PM
think I should give out recipes in public jimmy?
Posted by: Nobody at November 12, 2004 04:33 PM
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&ncid=578&e=1&u=/nm/20041112/ts_nm/crime_peterson_dc
Posted by: tonid at November 12, 2004 04:30 PM
HOLY CRAP!!! THANK DOG!!! I have been hoping for that son of bitch to go down!!!
Posted by: aka MAT at November 12, 2004 04:34 PM
Okay, here's a question...what if someone convicted of murder (say, Peterson) knows he's up for life in prison or death. Either way, he's going to be in the pokey for awhile.
What if he REQUESTS lethal injection ASAP?
Would they do it? Has that ever happened?
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 04:34 PM
I hear you fishgrease. Are you still there?
Posted by: PEACE IN at November 12, 2004 04:34 PM
Apocalypse Denial
By Mike Davis
Introduction by Tom Engelhardt
In a Mother Jones magazine essay, Over a Barrel, energy expert Paul Roberts, considering the near-impossibility of creating a sustainable-energy world in any reasonable span of time based only on market forces, speaks of an American "wall of energy denial" and of American consumers who "still share the [Bush] administration's energy obliviousness." He adds that "U.S. gasoline consumption continues to rise, despite high oil prices." Well, exactly. And we're talking about something closer to the Great Wall of China than a picket fence.
http://www.motherjones.com/news/dailymojo/2004/11/11_513.html
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 04:34 PM
Supposedly they are trying to get a fusion reactor going in Europe, no name.
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 04:36 PM
~~~ Join the GOP. The women in the GOP are lonely and sexually frustated. They will do ANYTHING for a decent orgasm, because all of their husbands are closeted gays. ~~~
Posted by: Fishgrease at November 12, 2004 04:10 PM
Ya know what many women visiting New York last summer did their asshole just prior to sex?
Dropped him off at the Republican Convention.
Posted by: Rwiley at November 12, 2004 04:37 PM
HE GETS NO REQUESTS!!! HE GETS TO SIT IN PRISON AND REMEMBER WHAT HE DID!!!
I HOPE HE GETS PUT IN THE TINIEST STINKTYEST CELL THEY HAVE.
I HOPE HE SPENDS THE REST OF HIS DAYS CRYING!!!
Posted by: aka MAT at November 12, 2004 04:37 PM
Jim,
~~~ looks like whats happenin
~~~ is the libruls for the most part re-burying
~~~ heads in the sand again. @$%^%#@)*^^$%@!!!!
~~~ evry head in the sand is gonna cause a
~~~ crime to go unopposed.
Never seen nuthin like it!
We sit by and watch while Jeb Bush installs a shitload of these unauditable boxes AGAINST the recommendations of a panel HE appointed and legal opinion that the unauditable boxes are against existing Florida law. Then, when these unauditable boxes provide no proof of fraud because they're DESIGNED to provide no possible proof of fraud... Democrats say... "You have to have proof if you're going to accuse someone of fraud!"
These aren't even election devices! They're fraud devices! There is simply no other reason for having them.
And these Democrats think Republicans are stupid?
Posted by: Fishgrease at November 12, 2004 04:38 PM
thats a good question N!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 12, 2004 04:39 PM
I agree, I was talking hypothetically.
You know what is weird? I've been fighting the weird urge to call you MOM instead of MAT.
It's especially weird considering that you don't seem like a mom.
I'll shut up now. *G*
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 04:39 PM
George Bush for 4 more years -- who knew?
Posted by: Right Wing Psychic at November 12, 2004 04:39 PM
The Rebel Sell
If we all hate consumerism, how come we can’t stop shopping?
BY Joseph Heath and Andrew Potter
Photography by Stephen Gregory
Do you hate consumer culture?
Angry about all that packaging? Irritated by all those commercials? Worried about the quality of the “mental environment� Well, join the club. Anti-consumerism has become one of the most important cultural forces in millennial North American life, across every social class and demographic.
http://www.thismagazine.ca/issues/2002/11/rebelsell.php
Posted by: aka MAT at November 12, 2004 04:41 PM
HA!
If a midget psychic escapes from prison, should the headlines read: "Small medium at large?"
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 04:42 PM
I'll shut up now. *G*
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 04:39 PM
You can call me akaMom if you like, it's better than some of the other names peeps have for me!
HEEhee!
Posted by: aka mom at November 12, 2004 04:42 PM
What you're asking me for is not done in a few sentences or paragraphs...the only answer would need be in long form...That would take time to do since I would also have to educate you on the state of things before it came to pass...I'd have to make my arguments as to the whys and hows...but it all hinges on 911 and what you think the cause for the "failures" were...There is no simple soundbite answer....that doesn't mean there isn't an answer...I would point you at Kerrys site if it's still up and ask you to look up his proposals for changes in the patriot act...
Posted by: Nobody at November 12, 2004 04:43 PM
Bibi girl...sorry I missed you. Did a fst scan on the blog and it seemed to be all boys.
How are you today?
Jim,
That neck rub sounds good.
Work was good today.
My boss's new boss is a do nothing and there have been some problems at work that effects our department but is not our fault. Gave my boss a solution to the problem and she was jumping for joy today. This from a part time person (me) who has limited hours a week.
Posted by: tonid at November 12, 2004 04:43 PM
A FEW OTHER WEBLOGS (American)
Instapundit.com
http://instapundit.com/
Belmont Club
http://belmontclub.blogspot.com/
Patterico’s Pontifications
http://patterico.com/
Vodkapundit
http://www.vodkapundit.com/
No Left Turns
http://noleftturns.ashbrook.org/
Little Green Footballs
http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php
FreeRepublic.com
http://www.freerepublic.com/home.htm
Posted by: FYI at November 12, 2004 04:44 PM
~~~ Supposedly they are trying to get a fusion reactor going in Europe, no name. ~~~
All I seen of those is that its not true (pure) fusion. They're using fission (dirty, nasty) to start the fusion reaction just like in a thermonuclear weapon. It has a few advantages over pure fission reactors, energy per waste and danger - wise, but they aren't the literal cure-all that pure fusion would be.
We can achieve pure fusion. It just needs lots of money thrown at it. The 200 billion we're spending in Iraq might just have done it... too!
Posted by: Fishgrease at November 12, 2004 04:45 PM
I think it's because I KNOW you're a mom.
Seeing some of what I have seen here, I wouldn't be a bit surprised at some of the things you've probably been called.
People are much braver behind a computer.
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 04:45 PM
A FEW OTHER WEBLOGS (Foreign)
Biased BBC (British)
http://www.biased-bbc.blogspot.com/
ABC Watch (Australian)
http://www.abcwatch.blogspot.com/
Chrenkoff (Australian)
http://chrenkoff.blogspot.com/
No Pasaran! (French)
http://no-pasaran.blogspot.com/
Davids Medienkritik (German)
http://medienkritik.typepad.com/blog/
Posted by: FYI at November 12, 2004 04:47 PM
I imagine it is hard to do on a blog. I was hoping it could be condensed.
Oh well, no big deal.
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 04:48 PM
Janeane Mentioned she's able to buy the Guardian newspaper and Inernation hearld Tribune in NYC. Does anyone know what stores carry them so i can pick up a copy?
Posted by: NewGuy at November 12, 2004 04:48 PM
People are much braver behind a computer.
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 04:45 PM
To true I'm quilty of it myself! I anit no Angel.
Posted by: aka MAT at November 12, 2004 04:48 PM
Iraq = Afghanistan. Amerika = Soviet Union. Mr. Bush, tear down that wall!
Posted by: History Repeats at November 12, 2004 04:49 PM
Anne,
That link you posted by the Retired Air force person was great. You should repost.
I sent it to my groups and to my brother and Nephew(who is a pilot).
How are you doing?
Posted by: tonid at November 12, 2004 04:49 PM
sorry...serious things take more words
Posted by: Nobody at November 12, 2004 04:51 PM
PEACE IN,
Yep... still here stirrin up shit!
Posted by: Fishgrease at November 12, 2004 04:51 PM
Janeane Mentioned she's able to buy the Guardian newspaper and Inernation hearld Tribune in NYC. Does anyone know what stores carry them so i can pick up a copy?
Posted by: NewGuy at November 12, 2004 04:48 PM
I don't know if you have them there but Boarders books and Barnes and Nobel carries papers from other countries, You can also get most papers on-line.
http://www.world-newspapers.com/
Posted by: aka MAT at November 12, 2004 04:51 PM
The Republicans' most popular way to support the troops is to buy a magnetic ribbon that makes huge profits for coorporate America.
Posted by: Rwiley at November 12, 2004 04:51 PM
I don't remember where it was, but I saw a suggestion for dealing with the prison problem for violent criminals.
Stick them on a deserted island and make them eke out their own survival. If they want to be animals, let them live as such.
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 04:51 PM
hey fyi you are forget another one we are can send you to:
http://www.nicedoggie.net/
yesterdays thread shuld be right up you alley.
jimmy did you see yesterdays nicedoggie? they are sink to new lows. didnt know that was possible.
Posted by: muck4doo at November 12, 2004 04:52 PM
Dear MoveOn member,
Questions are swirling around whether the election was conducted honestly or not. We need to know -- was it or wasn't it?
If people were wrongly prevented from voting, or if legitimate votes were mis-counted or not counted at all, we need to know so the wrongdoers can be held accountable, and so we can prevent this from happening again.
Members of Congress are demanding an investigation to answer this question. The decision on whether or not there will be an investigation could come as soon as Monday. Join us in supporting the call for one now, at:
http://www.moveon.org/investigatethevote/
Posted by: tonid at November 12, 2004 04:53 PM
How are you doing?
Posted by: tonid at November 12, 2004 04:49 PM
I'm really really sore from being up on that roof yesterday. I can't believe how very out of shape I'am. I have been losing weight which I don't need to do. I was really sick yesterday getting down from the roof I felt poisoned. Sunny called me and told me to drink some salt water and that made me feel waaaaaaay better, but today I'm sore and stiff ALL OVER!
Are you talking about the 9/11 filmed speech?
Posted by: aka MAT at November 12, 2004 04:54 PM
25 or 6 to 4
Posted by: -B at November 12, 2004 04:55 PM
george bush in a political con
boosts haliburton, pfizer, exxon
his economics he defends
political capitol he spends
while single moms cut out a coupon
Posted by: RWiley at November 12, 2004 04:55 PM
eya T
u an ol timer w/ experience
and a working intellect. we got the skills and
attitudes to fix alla dis no prob. comes
from bein honest with yerself. we maybe
get a kick at it eventually.
eya BB and akamom!
coffee and chocolate cake?
just brewed up a bunch fer de boys
in the urn on the sideboard.
theres fresh flowers in
the basket by the
window, help
yourselves!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 12, 2004 04:56 PM
They did that...it's called australia...No to deal with criminals you change the conditions that are creating them...republicans...punish the rat....democrats...change the maze
Posted by: Nobody at November 12, 2004 04:56 PM
Just talked to a friend of mine who returned from Germany for a month visit. Not only are they disappointed with Bush re-election, they are very concerned about Global Warming and the now GIANT economic power of China. She said 60% to 70% of goods sold in Europe are made in China. Looks like Americans are going to get slapped in the rear where least expected. The goody do-gooder Jesus freaks aren't going to stop the flow of events that will sweep over civilization as we know it. They'll just mess up their pants and we'll have a lot of laundry to do. I believe Americans are scared shitless to start anything with China.
Posted by: RomanDolly at November 12, 2004 04:57 PM
http://americablog.blogspot.com/
Religious right BLASTS Mary Cheney's "flaunting" of her homosexuality
by John in DC - 11/12/2004 03:16:08 PM
Oh yeah. Let the meltdown begin. It was only a matter of time before the religious right took on the First Dyke (or second dyke?) I sincerely hope we're going to hear loud and public outrage from the White House and the Cheney family about this outrageous, mean-spirited, willing-to-do-anything attack on their tender young daughter.
Couldn't have happened to a nicer girl.
From the religious right propaganda organ AgapePress:
...A Virginia pro-family advocate says the people who helped re-elect President Bush don't support homosexual relationships -- the administration apparently does. Joe Glover, president of the Family Policy Network, has worked tirelessly for family values, including the fight against legalized homosexual "marriage." He says it was
conservative Christians who put the president back in office and who held to the belief that the president shared their views. But Glover
says the day after the election, that all seemed to go out the window.
"The day after George Bush was elected president again, because of this morals revolution taking place in our country, he allows his vice
president to not only put his lesbian daughter on the platform, but to bring her lesbian 'partner' up on the stage with him," Glover says. "It almost seems to be a slap in the face from the get-go against the very conservatives that re-elected the president at a time when he
ought to paying them some homage and respect." Glover says the Cheney daughter's open flaunting of her homosexuality is the antithesis of
what the administration claims to stand for -- and that the post-election display sends a mixed message to Bush supporters.
Posted by: tonid at November 12, 2004 04:58 PM
Websites on Media bias:
The Media Research Center
http://www.mrc.org/
Accuracy In Media
http://www.aim.org/
Posted by: FYI at November 12, 2004 04:58 PM
YUM! Chocolate cake!!!
this is the right time of month for Chocolate cake.
: ]
Thanks Sunshine!
Posted by: aka MAT at November 12, 2004 04:59 PM
So Ashcroft was just on C-SPAN. He was discussing his own ideology about government, mixed in with various historical references about "the framers", all the while chastising against the use of idelogy in government.
Which makes it more obvious than ever, that point by Mr. Vidal about needing another Constitutional Convention, is absolutely correct and way, way overdue...
Posted by: JustAnIdea at November 12, 2004 04:59 PM
Look at the clock. Is the big hand going forward at 25 minutes past the hour...or is it going backward 6 to 4?
Posted by: -B at November 12, 2004 04:59 PM
THE BEST NEWSPAPER IN AMERICA
The Washington Times
http://www.washtimes.com/
Posted by: FYI at November 12, 2004 05:01 PM
You see...that's all you people's problem.
You think that the Age of Aquarius is ushered in on the Spring Equinox.
In truth...the Age is not divided up evenly "on the hour".
Posted by: -B at November 12, 2004 05:02 PM
//THE BEST NEWSPAPER IN AMERICA
The Washington Times
http://www.washtimes.com/
Posted by: FYI at November 12, 2004 05:01 PM//
roflmao!!!!!!!!!!!!
im shure reverend moon is apreshiate your endorsement
Posted by: muck4doo at November 12, 2004 05:02 PM
Who's Next?
America just isn't America without a high profile trial going on...
Scott, we'll miss you...
http://atrios.blogspot.com/2004/11/whos-next.html
I'm we can think of many to fill Scott's shoes in the court room including Georgie, Dickie, Ale G, Johnie Ashcroft, Rumy, Wolfo, Sec State's of Florida and Ohio and others would work nicely in the defendants seat of a courtroom in America.
Posted by: NAIS at November 12, 2004 05:03 PM
Is this the one you mean tonid?
Posted by: aka MAT at November 12, 2004 05:04 PM
Sunshine this is that web site I was telling you about on the phone yesterday.
Sure was nice to talk to you, thanks!
Posted by: aka MAT at November 12, 2004 05:06 PM
~~~ You see...that's all you people's problem. ~~~
I don't have any problems. When people ask,
"Fishgrease! How ya doin?"
I say,
"Fine!"
Posted by: Fishgrease at November 12, 2004 05:06 PM
Is 5 o'clock right now...or is it 5 and 5/11th's of an hour?
The Whole World's Watching, Chuck. You say you know what time it is.
Do you think I know when judgment day is?
I was asleep the whole day on September 11, 2001. I was asleep at midnight on January 1, 2000.
Stevie Winwood said to wake him up on judgment day. He also said think about it.
There must be Higher Love.
As I was walking down the street one day
A man came up to me and asked me what the time was that was
on my watch, yeah
And I said
Does anybody really know what time it is
I don't
Does anybody really care
care
If so I can't imagine why
about time
We've all got time enough to cry
Oh no, no
And I was walking down the street one day
A pretty lady looked at me and said her diamond watch had
stopped cold, yeah
And I said
Does anybody really know what time it is
I don't
Does anybody really care
care
If so I can't imagine why
about time
We've all got time enough to cry
Oh no, no
And I was walking down the street one day
Being pushed and shoved by people trying to beat the clock,
oh no, I just don't know,
I just don't know
And I said, yes I said
Background Vocal:
People runnin' everywhere
Don't know the way to go
Don't know where I am
Can't see past the next step
Don't have to think past the last mile
Have no time to look around
Just run around, run around and think why
Does anybody really know what time it is
I don't
Does anybody really care
care
If so I can't imagine why
about time
We've all got time enough to die
Oh no, no
Posted by: -B at November 12, 2004 05:07 PM
Are you talking about the 9/11 filmed speech?
Posted by: aka MAT at November 12, 2004 04:54 PM
Yes, that's the one. That was a great video to watch.
Posted by: tonid at November 12, 2004 05:07 PM
roflmmfao!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 05:09 PM
eya RD
ya!
remember my riff about smokescreens?
looks like the psychopathcons are doin setup
to legalize the theft of as much of the assets of
the USA as they can get away with. leavin us with
the bills and an empty wallet. they suckerin
the religious wingnuts as well. short term
typical criminal 'planning' eh?
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at November 12, 2004 05:09 PM
If you want a man walk a particular path you smooth the way...
Posted by: Nobody at November 12, 2004 05:10 PM
http://www.vermontindymedia.org/usermedia/video/3/rbowman911InquiryMay0456k.wmv
I think that is the link to the movie directly, if not here is the link to the page to find the movie and it is the 13th one down
Posted by: aka MAT at November 12, 2004 05:11 PM
Website exposing lies about Israel:
CAMERA
http://www.camera.org/
Posted by: FYI at November 12, 2004 05:11 PM
This is the link, Anne.
Found it in my email sent file.
http://www.vermontindymedia.org/usermedia/video/3/rbowman911InquiryMay0456k.wmv
Posted by: tonid at November 12, 2004 05:11 PM
CAMERA
http://www.camera.org/
Posted by: FYI at November 12, 2004 05:11 PM
I love that site, thanks for posting it
Posted by: aka MAT at November 12, 2004 05:13 PM
ima thinkin she is have em case here:
Woman struck by train sues railroad
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Friday, November 5, 2004
A Jeannette woman who was slightly injured after being struck by a train while walking along railroad tracks sued Norfolk Southern Corp. Thursday for failing to warn pedestrians that trains travel on tracks.
Patricia M. Frankhouser, of 910 Scott Ave., is seeking an unspecified amount in excess of $30,000 from the Norfolk, Va., rail transport company for the Jan. 6 incident that left her with a broken finger, cuts on her hand and pain, according to the suit.
more...
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/search/s_269598.html
Posted by: muck4doo at November 12, 2004 05:14 PM
CAMERA
http://www.camera.org/
Posted by: FYI at November 12, 2004 05:11 PM
I linked it for you!
Posted by: aka MAT at November 12, 2004 05:15 PM
Hi, Sunshine Jim. I agree with your assesment. It is all smokescreen by the "ruling class" of robber barons. They've tried this before in our illustrious American history. I wrote a term paper about it many years ago. The people will always rise up. It doesn't take many of us to stir things up. Once people catch on, there is no smoke screen. Smoke 'em out, I say!
Posted by: RomanDolly at November 12, 2004 05:16 PM
I declare you, Karol Wojtyla.
Fallible.
Pope Decries 'Grave Crisis' of Values
By FRANCES D'EMILIO, Associated Press Writer
Fri. Nov. 12, 2004 12:30 PM ET
ROME - Pope John Paul II praised Portugal's visiting president Friday for his nation's conservative Catholicism, saying it could inspire hope amid a "grave crisis" in modern values.
The pope also condemned euthanasia in a separate meeting with doctors, the second attack on the practice by the Vatican (news - web sites) this week.
Mostly Roman Catholic Portugal has some of Europe's strictest abortion laws, totally banning the procedure after 12 weeks of pregnancy and sharply limiting when it is permitted in earlier weeks.
Portugal has a special place in the pope's heart. He visited the Fatima, Portugal, shrine, after his recovery from gunshot wounds inflicted by a Turkish gunmen in St. Peter's Square in 1981.
The May 13, 1981, attack coincided with the feast day of Our Lady of Fatima, and John Paul credits the Virgin Mary's intercession for his survival. In 2000, he visited Fatima to beatify two of the three shepherd children who said the Virgin Mary appeared to them. The third child, now an elderly nun, lives in Portugal.
"The special light that shone in their lives wants to illuminate the world," the pontiff said.
"The world continues to look to Portugal with hope, especially in terms of becoming aware of the grave crisis of values in modern society, ever more insecure in the face of fundamental ethical decisions for the future path of humanity," the pope told visiting President Jorge Sampaio at the Vatican.
Posted by: -B at November 12, 2004 05:18 PM
I linked it for you!
Posted by: aka MAT at November 12, 2004 05:15 PM
Cool, thanks.
Posted by: FYI at November 12, 2004 05:19 PM
ima thinkin she is have em case here:
Woman struck by train sues railroad
Trains travel on tracks? She must have voted for Bush. Typical thinking from those people.
Posted by: RomanDolly at November 12, 2004 05:21 PM
Your welcome!
if you want to post the link to a page yourself
cut and paste the link then hit preview.
Then in the preview mode hit post. Sometimes it double posts but I have found that if I hit post wait a couple of seconds and hit the back button then refresh I can get it to post only once.
News I thought you might like to use!
: ]
Posted by: aka MAT at November 12, 2004 05:22 PM
Want some of the drugs I'm on, Janeane?
What if I told you ...I need you.
I want you, but I never speak of addiction.
End Of Line
Posted by: -B at November 12, 2004 05:22 PM
Take care all, I'm off on a road trip to go party and play in a casino.
Be well!
Posted by: TTC at November 12, 2004 05:22 PM
Ashcroft says judges threaten national security by questioning Bush decisions
Friday, November 12, 2004
BY CURT ANDERSON
ASSOCIATED PRESS
WASHINGTON - Federal judges are jeopardizing national security by issuing rulings contradictory to President Bush's decisions on America's obligations under international treaties and agreements, Attorney General John Ashcroft said Friday.
In his first remarks since his resignation was announced Tuesday, Ashcroft forcefully denounced what he called "a profoundly disturbing trend" among some judges to interfere in the president's constitutional authority to make decisions during war.
http://www.freep.com/news/latestnews/pm1340_20041112.htm
Posted by: Crap! at November 12, 2004 05:22 PM
It has been a beautiful year. We won the war in Afghanistan. We are winning the war in Iraq. We won the presidency. We won the Senate. We won the House of Representatives. We won the Supreme Court. All that's left this year is a good Turkey dinner on Thanksgiving and opening the Christmas presents. We should all sing "God bless America"
Posted by: Bye Bye John at November 12, 2004 05:24 PM
Buh-bye, Netherlanders...oh, don't forget the Poles, too! Tony Blair is operating with a 65% disapproval rating on Iraq....hmmmm? Pretty soon it'll be the star-n-stripes & Pago-Pago doin' the house-to-house two-step in Fallujah.
The Shrub screams, "We don't need no stinkin' draft!"
Dutch to Withdraw Troops from Iraq in March
AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - The Dutch cabinet has decided to bring home the 1,350 Dutch troops in Iraq (news - web sites) in March next year, confirming a decision first made in June, the Dutch news agency ANP cited Defense Minister Henk Kamp as saying on Friday.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=574&e=19&u=/nm/20041112/wl_nm/iraq_dutch_dc
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 05:24 PM
Bye TTC.
Make sure to wear clean underware!
Ha ha Just kidding, isn't that what mothers are suppose to say!
Have a great time be careful.
use the gray matter doG gave you!
Posted by: aka MAT at November 12, 2004 05:25 PM
constitushunal authority? bah! weve been under dictatorship for decades!
>:(
Posted by: muck4doo at November 12, 2004 05:26 PM
We should all sing "God bless America"
Posted by: Bye Bye John at November 12, 2004 05:24 PM
Were all singing DOG SAVE AMERIKKKA!
For winning so much you sure have come out losers.
BUSH WON, AMERIKKKA LOSES
Posted by: aka MAT at November 12, 2004 05:26 PM
ASCHROFT IS A HO!!!
MAY HE BURN IN HELL
Posted by: at November 12, 2004 05:27 PM
A Jeannette woman who was slightly injured after being struck by a train while walking along railroad tracks sued Norfolk Southern Corp. Thursday for failing to warn pedestrians that trains travel on tracks.
tort reform, anyone?
I'm reminded of the pregnant woman who drank a fifth of Jim Beam a day when she was pregnanat and sued the distillery.
So stupidity is pretected but malfeasance gets a pass.
Posted by: bibimimi at November 12, 2004 05:27 PM
Liberation
Silent woman in the night, you came,
Took my seed from my shaking frame.
Same old fire, another flame,
And the wheel rolls on.
Silent woman through the flames, you come,
From the deep behind the sun
Seems my nightmares, have just begun
Left me barely holding on.
With blazing eyes you see my trembling hand.
When we know the time has come
Lose my senses, lose command
Feel your healing rivers run
Is it every time I fall,
That I think this is the one
In the darkness can you hear me call
Another day has just begun.
Silent woman, my face is changed
Some know in ways to come.
Feel my fire needs a brand new flame
And the wheels rolls on.... rolls on.
Posted by: -B at November 12, 2004 05:27 PM
It has been a beautiful year. We won the war in Afghanistan. We are winning the war in Iraq. We won the presidency. We won the Senate. We won the House of Representatives. We won the Supreme Court. All that's left this year is a good Turkey dinner on Thanksgiving and opening the Christmas presents. We should all sing "God bless America"
Posted by: Bye Bye John at November 12, 2004 05:24 PM
Since when did you become a comedian? I'd like to try what you're smokin.
Posted by: RD at November 12, 2004 05:28 PM