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November 11, 2004

hour two - Thursday

David Chasteen, Iraq war veteran and Project Coordinator of Operation Truth.

David Byrne, writer, singer, songwriter, artist, filmmaker, cool dude.

Posted by not sam at November 11, 2004 06:26 PM

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frost?

Posted by: pezwaldo at November 11, 2004 08:07 PM

hour 2 bloggies

Posted by: NAIS at November 11, 2004 08:08 PM

SAM AND JANEANE,

It has been recommended that we refer to the insurgency as �the resistance� or �the iraqi resistance�. This is a more respectful and honest definition of the people that are defending their country against us.

Posted by: RWiley at November 11, 2004 08:08 PM

FROST !!

Posted by: Ajax at November 11, 2004 08:08 PM

first?

Posted by: jimhmcnair at November 11, 2004 08:08 PM

I'd Just Like To Say Hello To My Uncle!

Posted by: Hagbard Celine at November 11, 2004 08:08 PM

I always thought the dude who sings for Rusted Root sounds like he ripped off some of his style from David Byrne.

Talking Heads kicked ass, and so does a good bit of Byrne's stuff since that time.

"And the days go by, water flowing underground.."
"Same as it ever was, Same as it ever was!"

Posted by: LeeP at November 11, 2004 08:09 PM

nearly 60 MILLION votes for George W. Bush.
ain't it great!! 4 more years of someone who is willing to make decisions to help keep America secure... ain't no wishy washy Kerry nuance either

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:09 PM

If this administration continues to follow the Hitlerian playbook as exactly as they have been, the key social and political assasinations and arrests will begin in another week. Watch for mysterious openings in the judiciary, and several early retirements in all areas of government and media.

Posted by: a historian at November 11, 2004 08:09 PM

Fadlallah accuses U.S. of continuing crusade against Islam
Cleric describes pre-emptive wars as weapon to subdue opponents, dismantle UN

By Elie Hourani
Daily Star staff
Thursday, November 11, 2004

BEIRUT: Shiite cleric Sayyed Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah said Wednesday that U.S. President George W. Bush's crusade against Islam had only stopped in theory but not in practice.

Speaking during his weekly forum, the Shiite cleric said Bush had used the term crusade several times in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks against the United States.

"But although he stopped using (the term) in the media, he has not really abandoned the idea," Fadlallah added.

He further said that Washington had "completely bypassed the United Nations in 2003, before launching a war against Iraq," adding that the way in which the U.S. launched a war against Iraq, against the advice of the international community, showed the ruling neoconservatives' disregard for this region.

[snip]

However, he said that the aggressiveness of the neoconservatives was not the result of the Sept. 11 attacks.

He stressed that American plans for gaining control of the oil of Arab states were made in the 1980's and that "the first Gulf war" was only a prelude to this plan. Fadlallah claimed that Washington had given Saddam Hussein's regime the nod to attack Kuwait in order to create the right atmosphere for the U.S. armed intervention in the Gulf.

"But the Sept. 11 attacks gave Washington an excuse to act like a wounded lion and to pretend to launch its anti-terrorism war in an attempt to get back at groups or countries that were behind the attacks," Fadlallah said.

He said that the U.S.-led "war on terror" was, in reality, a war against Islam and Muslims around the world.

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=1&categ_id=2&article_id=10089

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:09 PM

I don't think the 'conspiracy' points, mentioned last night, should be dropped. They should be investigated coherently, piece by piece, and (maybe) covered either repeatedly or in regular installments, to either reveal/refute the actual truth.

The unrefutable fact though, which the public needs to digest, is that the current leaders of world societies ARE NOT GOOD MEN. What do you think they're really doing, behind closed doors? They are plotting and scheming against each other, and (in many societies) also plotting against their own people to maintain their positions.

Part of the problem now, in the U.S., is the overt-covert "plotting against their own people" part, which has never been quite so explicit or obvious. Just grow up and think more, they aren't out there scheming fuckin' altruism or anything; otherwise, there would be no world hunger, everyone would have healthcare, and so on. There are enough resources to realize all these things, and much more.

Once humanity gets out of this 'animal stage' behavior, major changes will become evident.

Posted by: JustAnIdea at November 11, 2004 08:09 PM

I thought Dave Chasteen is the guy from Megadeath. :)

Posted by: pezwaldo at November 11, 2004 08:09 PM

Good ole Illinois. We are getting Saving Private Ryan. But I have Keith Olbermann on.

He's talking about the recount in Ohio Again.
And he is talking about the stations that won't show Saving Privat Ryan.

Posted by: tonid at November 11, 2004 08:10 PM

I thought Dave Chasteen is the guy from Megadeath. :)

Posted by: pezwaldo at November 11, 2004 08:09 PM

that's Dave Mustane

Posted by: COLIN at November 11, 2004 08:10 PM

It's Post 911, America.

Posted by: pablo at November 11, 2004 08:10 PM

too bad bright guys like Dr Cole have to put up with academic freedom issues

Campus Watch: Keeping an Eye on Professors Who Teach About the Middle East

http://hnn.us/articles/986.html

Posted by: GregZ at November 11, 2004 08:10 PM

I was walking through the jungle, and I
Was looking for good business
Something to take away the risk
Break or bust or call it quits
See an object in the air
See an object touch my hair
I was walking through the jungle, and I
Was looking for good business

My energy is draining
Touching down on my arm
I'm feeling kinda sleepy now

Chorus:
I was bitten by a tse-tse fly
I was bitten by a tse-tse fly

Posted by: preFasc Consultant at November 11, 2004 08:10 PM

Do you want to protest Diebold? Then check out my new blog.

http://deardiebold.blogspot.com

of course, my original blog is linked to my name below.

Posted by: That Damn Hippie at November 11, 2004 08:10 PM

I hear that the wounded flown out of Iraq who later die of their wounds in military hospitals are not counted in the Iraq death count. Right?

Posted by: xrayman at November 11, 2004 08:11 PM

This is because soldiers were not provided with INSECT REPELLANT... period. That's all they needed, but they weren't provided.

Posted by: ledge of liberty at November 11, 2004 08:12 PM

Joe Trippi on Keith's showing talking about voter fraud.

Posted by: tonid at November 11, 2004 08:12 PM

nearly 60 MILLION votes for George W. Bush.

Didn't think there were that many morons in the country. You sure those numbers are correct? You included yourself I take it.

Posted by: Darrell at November 11, 2004 08:12 PM

Die, Diebold, die!

Posted by: SanderHicksIsHot at November 11, 2004 08:12 PM

Despite ABC's memo to affiliates that it will cover any FCC fines that may happen from the airing of Saving Private Ryan, a large number still refuse to air it. This is dispite the fact that ABC has aired the movie 2 times previously with no fines from the FCC.

Scripps explains decision not to air "Saving Private Ryan" with official memo from Scripps.

http://www.wfts.com/stories/2004/11/041111ryan.shtml

Posted by: Emelius Browne at November 11, 2004 08:12 PM

Does anyone today lament the fall of the Roman Empire? 500 years from now will anyone lament the fall of the American Empire?

Posted by: frngy at November 11, 2004 08:07 PM
********

The fall of an empire is inevitable and always seems to be beneficial... they say the Roman Empire collapsed when the Empire overextended itself militarily and the rich did not want to pay taxes to support the military--those who could moved far far away beyond the edges of the empire so they couldn't be taxed or recruited into the military...and the whole thing fell apart. Wonder how long it will take this time?

Posted by: Frankie at November 11, 2004 08:12 PM

SAM SEDER SAYS UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BETWEEN EVERY THREE UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WORDS!

UHHHHHH JANEANE. DO UHHHHHH SOMETHING ABOUT UHHHHHHH THIS!! HE'S BEEN ON THE UHHHH AIR FOR SIX UHHHHHHHH MONTHS ALREADY!!!

Posted by: SAMSAYSUHHHHHHHHH at November 11, 2004 08:12 PM

my father had to wait an entire year for his appointment with the va hospital.

Posted by: jcbaron at November 11, 2004 08:13 PM

Posted by: a historian at November 11, 2004 08:09 PM

Night of the Long Knives?

Posted by: Rusty at November 11, 2004 08:13 PM

LOVE x 1000

Posted by: economically spaced blog love at November 11, 2004 08:13 PM

I have two ABC affiliates on my cable system. WMUR just quickly said they would not show Saving Private Ryan due to FCC Regulations, while WCVB had the station manager come on with a short statement on why they wouldnt show the film.

Posted by: PatLovesJaneane at November 11, 2004 08:13 PM

The veterans budget was cut by 910 million in 2006 by the Nazi Bush administration. And the vets will be sick with the depleted uranium.

Posted by: jimhmcnair at November 11, 2004 08:13 PM

Die, Diebold, die!

Posted by: SanderHicksIsHot at November 11, 2004 08:12 PM

That could be a Misfit's song,

Die, Diebold, die, my darlin' !

Hahaha!!!!

Posted by: LeeP at November 11, 2004 08:13 PM

Have you guys seen this website? http://www.pabaah.com/

These people piss me off to no end. They have a boycott list of celebrities that have said or done ANYTHING that even SLIGHTLY goes against their extreme right-wing wacked out beliefs.

I really feel sorry for them. They're literally boycotting EVERYTHING in the entertainment industry. They must lead the most BORING lives! I don't even know how they leave their houses. I'm pretty sure they're boycotting the sun.

Posted by: PoopyJoe at November 11, 2004 08:13 PM

You know life is cruel, life is never kind.
...
New York to East California.
There's a new wave coming I warn you.
http://www.afn.org/~afn30091/songs/w/wilde-kids.htm

Posted by: preFasc Consultant at November 11, 2004 08:13 PM

yesterday was Rememberance Day here and i didn't even remember....

Remembrance/Veteran's Day should be a national holiday in every country just as in Canada.

BTW the number of AWOL service people dropping into Canada as refugees is way up this month.

Posted by: CaLuM at November 11, 2004 08:14 PM

that's Dave Mustane
Posted by: COLIN at November 11, 2004 08:10 PM

Thanks Colin. Maybe he's related to Brandi Chastain. :D

http://www.womensoccer.com/biogs/chastain.html

Posted by: pezwaldo at November 11, 2004 08:14 PM

Once humanity gets out of this 'animal stage' behavior, major changes will become evident.

Posted by: JustAnIdea at November 11, 2004 08:09 PM

Great post. I just love the conspiracy theories because they drive conservatives to desperation. Latent insecurities.

Posted by: Rusty at November 11, 2004 08:14 PM

"SAM SEDER SAYS UHHH..."

Well all I can say is don't ever watch anything starring Michael Kitchen. Nuff said.

Posted by: preFasc Consultant at November 11, 2004 08:15 PM

SAM AND JANEANE,

It has been recommended that we refer to the insurgency as ?the resistance? or ?the iraqi resistance?. This is a more respectful and honest definition of the people that are defending their country against us.

Posted by: RWiley at November 11, 2004 08:08 PM

*********

Oh thank you so much for writing that. I was thinking the same thing and you explained it so well.

Posted by: Frankie at November 11, 2004 08:15 PM

Local Sinclair is showing an Oliver Stone movie
"Born on the Fourth of July", and blaming the FCC for creating the circumstances that wouldn't allow them to show "Saving Private Ryan". Urges US to contact the FCC to ask them to provide specific guidelines before they will stick out their necks.
The same station showed hours of "Stolen Honor" on the weekend just before the election in order to stir up feelings against Kerry.

Posted by: DabidosanDD at November 11, 2004 08:15 PM

My friend, Andy, is a marine, and when he came back from that shit in Iraq, he visited me once and we were outside talking, and everytime a truck went by on the road below, he jumped and was still freakin' out thinking he was going to get attacked. Clearly, these guys are going to be suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder and stuff like that.

Posted by: LeeP at November 11, 2004 08:16 PM

What to say, don't volunteer to
fight in Bush's wars.

It's pretty simple.

Don't join.

Posted by: Ajax at November 11, 2004 08:16 PM

http://www.fuckthesouth.com/

ck the South. Fuck 'em. We should have let them go when they wanted to leave. But no, we had to kill half a million people so they'd stay part of our special Union. Fighting for the right to keep slaves - yeah, those are states we want to keep.

And now what do we get? We're the fucking Arrogant Northeast Liberal Elite? How about this for arrogant: the South is the Real America? The AuthenticAmerica. Really?

Cause we fucking founded this country, assholes. Those Founding Fathers you keep going on and on about? All that bullshit about what you think they meant by the Second Amendment giving you the right to keep your assault weapons in the glove compartment because you didn't bother to read the first half of the fucking sentence? Who do you think those wig-wearing lacy-shirt sporting revolutionarieswere? They were fucking blue-staters, dickhead. Boston? Philadelphia? New York? Hello? Think there might be a reason all the fucking monuments are up here in our backyard?

etc

Posted by: Blue-State Libbie at November 11, 2004 08:16 PM

There's a .wav file in the diebold software that sez: No votes have been recorded, please remove your card now. And its all in a nice, friendly, feminine voice. Kinda funny, in a dark sort of way.

Posted by: Dems fightin words at November 11, 2004 08:17 PM

i might not have the best batting average (AVG), but my slugging percentage (SLG) is off the charts!
(In baseball statistics, slugging percentage (SLG) is a measure of the power of a hitter. It is calculated as total bases divided by at bats. Total bases can be calculated from commonly used baseball statistics by using the formula TB = 1B + (2*2B) + (3*3B) + (4*HR).)

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/ballplayer.shtml

check out the poetry and song section

i'm dead...dead serious about wanting you to come down to the new mall!
http://carnets.de.route.free.fr/Photos%20gf/Malaisie/KL%20-%20Tours%20Petronas%20-%20Mall.jpg

Posted by: dadalux at November 11, 2004 08:17 PM

David Chasteen? Crap! I thought we were going to have Brandi Chastain on tonight.

So ... is David wearing a sports bra?

Posted by: nmark in Toledo at November 11, 2004 08:17 PM

RW,
Is SAving Private Ryan being shown where you are?

Bet it's the red states that won't show it.

Posted by: tonid at November 11, 2004 08:17 PM

Bush doesn't care about the troops or the American people. Neither does Cheney. It's simple. Why all the rumination about this fact?

Posted by: quantumspin at November 11, 2004 08:18 PM

were not all rednecks here in the south. ever been to chapel hill? athens? charlottesville?

Posted by: GregZ at November 11, 2004 08:18 PM

Posted by: Blue-State Libbie at November 11, 2004 08:16 PM
----------

You don't get to call yourself liberal if you are so closed minded. Maybe you should get out more.

Posted by: Meg at November 11, 2004 08:18 PM

And he is talking about the stations that won't show Saving Privat Ryan.

Posted by: tonid at November 11, 2004 08:10 PM

We are getting Private Ryan here in Northern New York. The station is in Watertown, NY, home of Fort Drum, which loses soldiers almost every day now. The last time this station pulled a censorship stunt, I communicated back in forth for several days with the program director who said in the future "viewers would be taken into consideration before they bent to the affiliates". I feel good that they are showing it.

Posted by: RWiley at November 11, 2004 08:18 PM

I've really developed a hatred for country music. More so than before.

Posted by: PoopyJoe at November 11, 2004 08:18 PM

Insurgents? Resistance? How about: "Victims"

Yeah I know, . . .

Posted by: UncleSam at November 11, 2004 08:18 PM

Sam, why are you saying "exit polls, how do you trust them anymore?" the exit polls are CORRECT! it's the voting tabulations that are tampered with... WHAT are you TALKING ABOUT?

Posted by: Frankie at November 11, 2004 08:18 PM

My husband, Perry Jefferies, says to say HEY to you, CPT Chasteen, and also this:

Of the total reported cases of leishmaniasis, 160 were suffered from soldiers of 1/10 Cavalry, 4th ID...this unit was part of Force package I, and everyone was caught totally unaware by the threat of sand fleas...NO INSECT REPELLENT KITS, soldiers sleeping IN the sand on the Iraq/Iran border, etc...these 160 soldiers each had to undergo 3 weeks of horrible, experimental chemotherapy that is only given at Walter Reed Army Hospital, and each patient has to be followed up at intervals over years...

Perry called from his cell phone and asked me to post this. I'm a damned fine wife.

Posted by: LiberalBelle at November 11, 2004 08:18 PM

Al-Jazzera uses the term Anti-American fighters instead of insurgents, boy I cant see why that hasnt caught on? It seems to be a correct description after listening to Dr Cole though

Posted by: GregZ at November 11, 2004 08:20 PM

Posted by: Blue-State Libbie at November 11, 2004 08:16 PM

Well, yeah, the seeds of the American Revolution were planted in New England. Boston.
Philly was kind've the first American capital.

However, guys like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson had estates in Virginia and owned slaves.

So, it's a mix of New England Revolutionaries, and wealthy Virginian plantation owners who joined together and help found this country, actually...

Posted by: LeeP at November 11, 2004 08:20 PM

SAM: "Exit polls... how do you trust them anymore?"

What up with that, Sam?

This is getting spooky.

Posted by: Fishgrease at November 11, 2004 08:20 PM

RW,
Is SAving Private Ryan being shown where you are?

Bet it's the red states that won't show it.

Posted by: tonid at November 11, 2004 08:17 PM

Actually, I did some research and many of the stations that refuse to show it lie in red states. Only 3 stations that went blue last tuesday will not show it.

Posted by: PatLovesJaneane at November 11, 2004 08:20 PM

JEFF FOXWORTHY SUCKS!

Posted by: PoopyJoe at November 11, 2004 08:20 PM

David Chasteen,
If you're a fiscal conservative, I guess you are NOT a republican.

Even in 2000 when you didn't know that Bush was a slash tax and spend republican, you should have known that Gore was a democrat in the Clinton mold. Why mess with a good thing, fiscally I mean.

Posted by: xrayman at November 11, 2004 08:20 PM

I am getting HBO, right now, Inside the NFL followed by Last Letters. Props to HBO.

Posted by: Bushleague at November 11, 2004 08:20 PM

LiberalBelle how do the troops feel about the choice of president. It is his fault that they don't have the armour they need.

Posted by: jimhmcnair at November 11, 2004 08:21 PM

I'd like to find out how
many of the "insurgents"
in Fallujah are residents
of Fallujah ?

I bet it's the large majority.

Posted by: Ajax at November 11, 2004 08:21 PM

What up with that, Sam?

This is getting spooky.

Posted by: Fishgrease at November 11, 2004 08:20
PM

Geez. I hope he's not turning into Al Franken.

Posted by: pezwaldo at November 11, 2004 08:21 PM

Thursday, November 11, 2004

DNC

Matt Stoller raises the question which, while obviously not unrelated to the question of who should be in charge of the DNC, is probably the more important question -- just what should the DNC do with its time, money, influence, and resources?

People have the tendency to lump the politicians, the party institutions, and other assorted but unaffiliated groups together. But, the DNC doesn't really play the role that most people imagine. In fact, 3 years out of 4 it really doesn't have a clearly defined role. Aside from running the convention and the presidential nomination process, and trying to help elect the president, it doesn't really have much of a specific mandate. Obviously the DNC chief can have a public role, or not. But, given its nominal place on top of the power pyramid and its obvious ability to raise funds, it could do a lot more. Ideas?

Posted by: -Atrios 6:59 PM at November 11, 2004 08:22 PM

Posted by: Rusty at November 11, 2004 08:14 PM

thanks

Posted by: JustAnIdea at November 11, 2004 08:22 PM

Sam thought exit polls were fine last week. Is this a Stepford Sam we got here?

Where's Muck?

Muck... is Sam a lizard now?

Posted by: Fishgrease at November 11, 2004 08:22 PM

The exit polls were correct! It's the guy in the white house that is incorrect

Posted by: PoopyJoe at November 11, 2004 08:22 PM

haha this is a funny ad. hahaha

Posted by: cate at November 11, 2004 08:23 PM

The Democratic Circus Lyrics by David Byrne
-----------------------------

Found out this morning
There's a circus coming to town
They drive in Cadillacs
Using walkie-talkies, and the Secret Service

Their big top
Imitation of life
And all the flags and microphones
We have to cover our eyes

We play the sideshows
And we like the tunnel of love
And when we ride the ferris wheel
We're little children again

And when they're asking for volunteers
We'll be the first ones aboard
And when the ringmaster calls our names
We'll be the first ones to go ... to sleep

Stealing all our dreams
Dreams for sale
They sell 'em back to you

On with the show
Start the parade
We sand along
Sweep us away

It's political party time
Going down, going down
And the celebrities all come out
Coming down, coming down, coming...

The sun is going down
And the dogs are starting to howl
We stay out after dark
Eating cotton candy
And the music's playing...

How we all laughed!
We split our sides
The cameras flashed
We almost died!

The rain's gonna pour on down, falling out of the sky
Coming down, coming down
And the celebrities all run out, and the rain's
Coming down, coming down

Gonna rain,
Gonna rain, gonna rain
Gonna rain, gonna rain,
Rain, rain
Rain, rain

And now I wonder who's boss
And who he's leavin' behind?

Posted by: totallynakedbaby at November 11, 2004 08:23 PM

Is it Falluja or Fallujah? Fox news spells it with an H, Dr Cole does not on his blog

Posted by: GregZ at November 11, 2004 08:23 PM

Sam & JG, Ask David if he still frequents Hennessy & Ingalls. Let him know that this art fan thinks he's a very fine man.

Posted by: PEACE IN at November 11, 2004 08:23 PM

I don't think it's totally fair to diss all Southerners, I mean, it's not everyone down theres fault that they perhaps live around a larger number of crackers than the rest of us do.. I'm not just going to take a massive dump on the entire south just because a couple of dumb ass crackers, and the cracker-assed majority down there.

Posted by: LeeP at November 11, 2004 08:23 PM

"nearly 60 MILLION votes for George W. Bush."

UH ... That means there were 120 million who either voted against him or didn't vote at all.

MANDATE MY ASS

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:24 PM

Life During Wartime! Great bumper!

Posted by: Bushleague at November 11, 2004 08:24 PM

them from gays

while hiding in your church with
your handpicked biblical passages
to suit you in your quest – you’d
force a woman’s body to be your
property at best, while with
the other pull the lever of some
black punk’s fateful electric
death, he never had a chance –

believe any, all lies told you, so long
as you can say “I won”

I’m barely here – I’ll float away – I don’t want to come out to play –
my stomachs sick and knees are weak forced to see these days so bleak

Got ta hand it to ya though – you
really know your stuff – brought
out every fag hater – out of the
fucking woodwork

My knees are weak – I can barely stand

Got to hand it to ya though – you
told lies they would believe

My heart is gone I cannot speak

Got ta hand it to ya though, you said
fuck the world - got enough to
say it too - just
hope your dick is big enough

I don’t want to die for you

But I’ll smile to these young faces
the ones that are before me on this
day, scared and heartsick too - I’ll
save my strength to find another way

– release me of the hate
and the haters in my way – you make
our job so difficult, connected as we
are – to carry you for ever so long
has really weighed us down

It is the dead, cold weight of a time
that never was – of a world that never
will be, I am infected with your illusions
that won’t let anyone live free

I want to lay out a photo of this U.S.
I’ll make it super giant sized then cut
it to pieces and glue it back together
with kind eyes and gentle hands

I want to find a salve to soothe my aching
heart and plaster your hate to a
wall washed over with my words -
strong and healing they will be
to keep your hate cemented, like
cedar’s roots grown deep enough to
keep evil there and we are mended

I want to squeeze your tiny minds
and lives between my hands
press them into strength gained
Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:24 PM

DNC - CHAMPION CIVIL UNIONS FOR HOMOSEXUALS

Posted by: jimhmcnair at November 11, 2004 08:24 PM

Something has to be done about partisans in control polls like Blackwell from hell!!

Posted by: vortex at November 11, 2004 08:24 PM

"nearly 60 MILLION votes for George W. Bush."

UH ... That means there were 120 million who either voted against him or didn't vote at all.

MANDATE MY ASS

Posted by: Fred at November 11, 2004 08:24 PM

Isn't it true that Sam is the sexiest guy on Air America?

Posted by: PoopyJoe at November 11, 2004 08:25 PM

this ain't no disco

Posted by: PEACE IN at November 11, 2004 08:25 PM

Everybody in the USA
hates their stupid neighbor.
He's Flanders and he's really, really, lame!
Flanders tried to wreck my song,
his views on birth control are wrong.
I hate his guts and Flanders is his name.
F-L-A-N-D-E-R-S, he's the man that I hate best.
I'd like to see his house go up in flames!
F-L-A
His name is Ned!
E-R-S
That's a stupid name!
He's worse than Frankenstein or Dr. No!
You can't upset him even slightly,
he just smiles and nods politely,
then goes home and worships nightly.
His leftorium is an emporium of Woo!
F-L-A
Don't yell at Ned!
D-E-R
His wife is dead.
Everybody hates that stupid jerk.
Springfield's caught with Homer's joyous loathing!
Filling clubs, with angry valentinos.
You don't have to move your feet,
just hate Flanders to the disco beat.
He's your perky, peppy, nightmare neighbourino!
If you like polite left-handers then I doubt you'll like Ned Flanders
or his creepy little offspring Rod and Tod.
That's us. Hooray!
F-L-A
His name is Ned!
E-R-S
He is so white bread.
The smiling mustache geek who walks with God!

Posted by: cate at November 11, 2004 08:25 PM

thanks Leep in NC its not too bad if you stay in the urban areas. Venture off the beaten path than look out. Some state were upwards of 40% toward Kerry, remember not everyone that lives in the south is white

Posted by: GregZ at November 11, 2004 08:25 PM

David, I'm the gay democrat in Texas that loves you!!

Posted by: TNB at November 11, 2004 08:25 PM

That F* the south website has been going around the internet...I kind of took it to be a joke. It's hyperbole, satire. I don't think anyone really thinks that EVERYONE in the south is bad. I kind of thought it was funny when I first read it, but now I kind of feel bad for thinking it was funny because i can see how it would offend othters.

Posted by: Moni at November 11, 2004 08:26 PM

Also, it's not "THE talking heads" its simply "Talking Heads" as in "The Name of This Band is Talking Heads"

Posted by: preFasc Consultant at November 11, 2004 08:26 PM

~~~ Isn't it true that Sam is the sexiest guy on Air America? ~~~

If you get off on lizards, maybe.

Posted by: Fishgrease at November 11, 2004 08:26 PM

BI-PARTISANSHIP, n. When conservative Republicans work together with moderate Republicans to pass legislation Democrats hate.

CLARIFY, v. Repeating the same lie over and over again.

CLEAN, adj. The word used to modify any aspect of the environment Republican legislation allows corporations to pollute, poison, or destroy.

FAIRER, adj. Regressive.

FAITH, n. The stubborn belief that God approves of Republican moral values despite the preponderance of textual evidence to the contrary.

FAITH COMMUNITY, n. Evangelicals, because they are saved, and hawkish conservative Jews, because they are useful. Israel is the bait-on-the-hook just waiting for God to take that Rapturous bite.

FISCAL CONSERVATIVE, n. A Republican who is in the minority.

FREEDOM, n. What Arabs want but can't achieve on their own without Western military intervention. It bears a striking resemblance to chaos.

GROWTH, n. The justification for tax cuts for the rich. What happens to the deficits when Republicans cut taxes on the rich.

HONESTY, n. Lies told in simple declarative sentences: "Freedom is on the march."

HUMBLE FOREIGN POLICY, n. The invasion of any sovereign nation whose leadership Republicans don't like.

HUMBLED adj. What a Republican says right after a close election and right before he governs in an arrogant manner.

MORAL VALUES, n. Hatred of homosexuals dressed up in Biblical language.

MANDATE, n. What a Republican claims to possess when only 49 percent of the voting public loathes him instead of 51 percent.

THE MEDIA, n. Immoral elitist liberally-biased traitors who should leave Republicans alone so they can complete God's work on Earth in peace and quiet, behind closed doors.

PHILOSOPHY, n. Religion.

SIMPLIFY, tr. v. To cut the taxes of Republican donors.

SLAVE, n. A person without legal rights, e,g. a fetus.

BONUS DEFINITION: NEOCONSERVATIVES, n. Nerds with Napoleonic complexes.

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:26 PM

ou don't get to call yourself liberal if you are so closed minded. Maybe you should get out more.

I take it you didn't read the entire article. The point was BIGGER than Yankees swearing and the name of the website. Sorry you couldn't see past that.

Posted by: Blue-State Libbie at November 11, 2004 08:26 PM

Is it Falluja or Fallujah? Fox news spells it with an H, Dr Cole does not on his blog

Posted by: GregZ at November 11, 2004 08:23 PM
----------------

It is actually spelled with a bunch of squiggly arabic symbols. The English equivalent is just an approximation that can go a number of ways. Think of how many ways they spell colonel Qadaffey of Libya.

Posted by: nmark in Toledo at November 11, 2004 08:26 PM

Is this a deserving intro to our great guest?

Posted by: pezwaldo at November 11, 2004 08:26 PM

LMFAO Fish

Posted by: Bushleague at November 11, 2004 08:26 PM

I think Sam was being sarcastic when he talked about the exit polls.

Oh, and no Saving Private Ryan in Knoxville,TN.
They're showing Oprah. yuck.

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:26 PM

weird, hijacked? tried to post a couple of times?

Is it okay to hate the haters –

I want to hate them
I imagine twisting the evil
driving those tiny minds
and tiny lives, grinding it in
the palm of my hand, squeezing
it dry and scatter the remains
with the tiniest puff of breath –

There could not be pain like this
without the looming stench of death

Wouldn’t it be nice to float away
from surrounding hate, sick of hate,
from hate, sick of what its gained

I fear it will consume me though,
so I thought I’d return it instead –

Dear Republican Shits congrats,
congrats for plunging us deep into
despair – thanks for using people,
consumed with hate absent of care

congrats on stirring up deep-seated
fear and disgusting bigotry, now so alive
and well revived by you, in this sick
divided country, these your good
old days, thanks for reminding me

Thanks for bringing out the gay bashers,
from their closets (so I can see my enemy)
rather than have to look at yourself
I know you’d gladly self-destruct

Rather put a puppet on your hand
to spear us with more than seething
words, you’d sooner kill than have
to deal with your gay feeling stirred

(we already knew your fears,
bizarre as though they were)

you’d rather kill what is only a phantom
in a land that’s far away than give up
your S.U.V. even every other day
never thinking about lives you’ve
used to pay

you’d rather send our kids to die
than have a fucking summit –
you’d spread your filthy bigotry
happy when others plummet

you keep the poor in their place,
so easy there to control, before you’d
let slip from your hand one single
piece of gold –rape the forest don’t
think ahead, and willingly give up
your rights, so long as the small
promise of power rests you in your
bed at night

– you’d stand for the torture
of citizens, smile secretly when a
fag gets AIDS,

Posted by: Tori at November 11, 2004 08:27 PM

were not all rednecks here in the south. ever been to chapel hill? athens? charlottesville?

Posted by: GregZ at November 11, 2004 08:18 PM

Yeah, I've been to Georgia and the Carolinas...
Georgia is a really pretty state.

Ya know, there's a really cool guy and a GREAT guitarist from Northern Georgia, named Norman Blake. He's a personal guitar hero of mine, and very influential to me. He recorded with Johnny Cash and Bob Dylan, and so many others, and still makes very great American folk music. Definitely a big influence on me. He's a really nice guy in person too.

Posted by: LeeP at November 11, 2004 08:27 PM

Sam's not a lizard! lol

Posted by: PoopyJoe at November 11, 2004 08:27 PM

Hurray for Keith O!

Posted by: PEACE IN at November 11, 2004 08:27 PM

cate, you rule!

Posted by: DabidosanDD at November 11, 2004 08:27 PM

Waiter....a round of fresh enemas, for everybody!

On my tab!

Posted by: Robert Novack at November 11, 2004 08:28 PM

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Posted by: 13ben at November 11, 2004 08:28 PM

I don't like Drew Barrymore.

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:28 PM

Isn't it true that Sam is the sexiest guy on Air America?

Posted by: PoopyJoe at November 11, 2004 08:25 PM
.....................................................................................
i think so....
and since we're mentioning sexy ....
(even though it SO doesn't mater)
janeane is the sexiest,sassiest,smartypantsiest lady on air.

Posted by: Becca at November 11, 2004 08:28 PM

David is a fucking genius! Life imitates art? Nah....art imitates life!

Life During Wartime (Fear of Music)

Heard of a van that is loaded with weapons,
packed up and ready to go
Heard of some gravesites, out by the highway,
a place where nobody knows
The sound of gunfire, off in the distance,
I'm getting used to it now
Lived in a brownstore, lived in the ghetto,
I've lived all over this town

This ain't no party, this ain't no disco,
this ain't no fooling around
No time for dancing, or lovey dovey,
I ain't got time for that now

Transmit the message, to the receiver,
hope for an answer some day
I got three passports, a couple of visas,
you don't even know my real name
High on a hillside, the trucks are loading,
everything's ready to roll
I sleep in the daytime, I work in the nightime,
I might not ever get home

This ain't no party, this ain't no disco,
this ain't no fooling around
This ain't no mudd club, or C. B. G. B.,
I ain't got time for that now

Heard about Houston? Heard about Detroit?
Heard about Pittsburgh, P. A.?
You oughta know not to stand by the window
somebody might see you up there
I got some groceries, some peant butter,
to last a couple of days
But I ain't got no speakers, ain't got no
heaphones, ain't got no records to play

Why stay in college? Why go to night school?
Gonna be different this time
Can't write a letter, can't send a postcard,
I can't write nothing at all
This ain't no party, this ain't no disco,
this ain't no fooling around
I'd like to kiss you, I'd love you hold you
I ain't got no time for that now

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:28 PM

Life During Wartime! Great bumper!

Posted by: Bushleague at November 11, 2004 08:24 PM

"This ain't No Party!
This ain't No Disco!
This Ain't No Foolin' Around!!"

Posted by: LeeP at November 11, 2004 08:28 PM

Wonder how long it will take this time?

Posted by: Frankie at November 11, 2004 08:12 PM

One of he final stages of the fall included the building of large sport arenas and the emphasis on violent competition and the scorning of arts and the educated elitists.

Posted by: RWiley at November 11, 2004 08:28 PM

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:26 PM

http://www.thenation.com/edcut/index.mhtml?pid=1994

Posted by: credit where due. at November 11, 2004 08:29 PM

elizabeth from 'the view' LOVES george bush. she goes giddy over him. i hate that girl.

Posted by: cate at November 11, 2004 08:29 PM

J&S, ask him some questions, please.

Posted by: pezwaldo at November 11, 2004 08:29 PM

It's not the media's job to perform the checks and balances of our government. Last I checked it said in really big words: WE THE PEOPLE, not some of the people. Hell, Thomas Jefferson stated that this government was not created on the basis of trust, it was based on suspicion. Hence the checks and balances. It's our job as americans, true patriots to ensure that our hired officials are doing their job for us.

Posted by: Bushleague at November 11, 2004 08:29 PM

I can't quite agree with Janeane on that comment: I know lots of people who tell me that they like George Bush. They just can't explain why.

Posted by: Rusty at November 11, 2004 08:29 PM

Thank you for "speaking out" David!!

Posted by: TNB at November 11, 2004 08:29 PM

The South Park guys ARE right-wingers Janeane. They've admitted they're Repugs a few times, and that movie was obviously right-wing propaganda. I'm glad it tanked, and Ebert trashed it.

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:29 PM

haha thanks DabidosanDD,

consequently, so do you !

Posted by: cate at November 11, 2004 08:29 PM

Fish,
Muck can only blog from work now. I guess he doesn't have a computer at home or it's broken or his kid is using it.

Posted by: tonid at November 11, 2004 08:29 PM

http://www.luakabop.com/cmp/index_banner.php3

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:30 PM

Everybody loves Drew Barrymore? Ahh, what about Tom Green? She dumped him and broke his heart.

Posted by: Dems fightin words at November 11, 2004 08:30 PM

Toby Keith - A boot in your ass, it's the American way.

Posted by: xrayman at November 11, 2004 08:30 PM

The South Parks guys are (unwitting?) TOOLS. Are they homosexuals?

Posted by: PEACE IN at November 11, 2004 08:30 PM

fuck!

Trouble in transit, got through the roadblock,
we blended with the crowd
We got computer, we're tapping pohne lines,
I know that ain't allowed
We dress like students, we dress like housewives,
or in a suit and a tie
I changed my hairstyle, so many times now,
I don't know what I look like!
You make me shiver, I feel so tender,
we make a pretty good team
Don't get exhausted, I'll do some driving,
you ought to get some sleep
Get you instructions, follow directions,
then you should change your address
Maybe tomorrow, maybe the next day,
whatever you think is best
Burned all my notebooks, what good are
notebooks? They won't help me survive
My chest is aching, burns like a furnace,
the burning keeps me alive
Try to stay healthy, physical fitness,
don't want to catch no disease
Try to be careful, don't take no chances,
you better watch what you say

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:30 PM

Hey, wait a minute! This guy has better body armor than our troops!

http://nytimes.com/2004/11/11/international/middleeast/11cnd-iraq.html?hp

http://graphics7.nytimes.com/images/2004/11/11/international/11mosul.l.jpg

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 11, 2004 08:30 PM

"Stop Making Sense"

Posted by: LeeP at November 11, 2004 08:30 PM

Isn't playing Life During Wartime a little predictable? How 'bout Crosseyed and Painless?

Facts don't do what I want them to....

George W. Bush

Posted by: English Opium Eater at November 11, 2004 08:31 PM

Part II
, love having your
rights while happily withholding
them from gays

believe any, all lies told you, so long
as you can say “I won”

I’m barely here – I’ll float away – I don’t want to come out to play –
my stomachs sick and knees are weak forced to see these days so bleak

Got ta hand it to ya though – you
really know your stuff – brought
out every fag hater – out of the
fucking woodwork

My knees are weak – I can barely stand

Got to hand it to ya though – you
told lies they would believe

My heart is gone I cannot speak

Got ta hand it to ya though, you said
fuck the world - got enough to
say it too - just
hope your dick is big enough

I don’t want to die for you

But I’ll smile to these young faces
the ones that are before me on this
day, scared and heartsick too - I’ll
save my strength to find another way

– release me of the hate
and the haters in my way – you make
our job so difficult, connected as we
are – to carry you for ever so long
has really weighed us down

It is the dead, cold weight of a time
that never was – of a world that never
will be, I am infected with your illusions
that won’t let anyone live free

I want to lay out a photo of this U.S.
I’ll make it super giant sized then cut
it to pieces and glue it back together
with kind eyes and gentle hands

I want to squeeze your tiny minds

Posted by: Tori at November 11, 2004 08:31 PM

Is it Falluja or Fallujah?

Posted by: GregZ
at November 11, 2004 08:23 PM

Al Jazeera, English: Falluja
msnbc, English: Fallujah

We should go with the Al Jazeera spelling
although I like Fallujah, with that spelling
there's more of a chance that Bush voters
will think you're talking about a small
Texas boarder town and show some concern.

Posted by: Ajax at November 11, 2004 08:31 PM

fishg-
sarcasm- for gods sake man. hold it together.

Posted by: SEDER at November 11, 2004 08:31 PM

Insurgents? Resistance? How about: "Victims"

Yeah I know, . . .

Posted by: UncleSam at November 11, 2004 08:18 PM

---------
Yesterday's total of enemy (pardon that word) dead aprox 70+, with a small section of the town left.
Where are they?
Another Busy fuckup, not that i wanted more killed, just that this whole thing is so illusory.
(is that the right word)

Posted by: greg at November 11, 2004 08:31 PM

FIGHT IGNORANCE: READ BUZZFLASH

The Unexplained Exit Poll Discrepancy

A BUZZFLASH NEWS ALERT

BuzzFlash was forwarded a copy of a new research paper (271k PDF) on the exit polls from the 2004 election.

In "The Unexplained Exit Poll Discrepancy," Dr. Steven F. Freeman says:

"As much as we can say in social science that something is impossible, it is impossible that the discrepancies between predicted and actual vote counts in the three critical battleground states [Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania] of the 2004 election could have been due to chance or random error."

The odds of those exit poll statistical anomalies occurring by chance are 250,000,000 to one. 250 MILLION to ONE.

He concludes the paper with this:

"Systematic fraud or mistabulation is a premature conclusion, but the election's unexplained exit poll discrepancies make it an unavoidable hypothesis, one that is the responsibility of the media, academia, polling agencies, and the public to investigate."

http://www.buzzflash.com/alerts/04/11/ale04090.html

MANDATE MY ASS

Posted by: Fed at November 11, 2004 08:31 PM

~~~ I think Sam was being sarcastic when he talked about the exit polls. ~~~

Yeah... you get to believing that and then out of the corner of your eye you catch a long, forked tongue come out of Sam's mouth and snatch a fly out of the air.

Posted by: Fishgrease at November 11, 2004 08:31 PM

Captain O, those are from Haliburton. Cost Iraq a pretty penny but hell, they got all them proceeds from the sale of oil.

Posted by: Bushleague at November 11, 2004 08:31 PM

Isn't playing Life During Wartime a little predictable? How 'bout Crosseyed and Painless?

Facts don't do what I want them to....

George W. Bush

Posted by: English Opium Eater at November 11, 2004 08:31 PM

Oh, and no Saving Private Ryan in Knoxville,TN.
They're showing Oprah. yuck.

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:26 PM

I bet you they will be showing Hooisers after Oprah. A lot of stations in that area are showing Hoosiers.

Posted by: PatLovesJaneane at November 11, 2004 08:32 PM

My boyfriend says don't post this but I'm going to. And maybe I'm the only one who feels this way. If so, call me crazy! (I'm Anne Heche!)
But I don't buy that this "highest service" to your country is serving in a war.
I'm a pacifist. And there may or may not be "good" wars.
I have no problem with respect for any who serves but I don't define service as being solely the military.
I realize that, as Noam Chomsky pointed out on the first Gulf War, we've all fallen into the right's "support our troops" argument. By that I mean, I don't hate our troops, I don't want them (or anyone) killed.
But I don't preface my remarks against the war with, "Now I support the troops." That's a non-issue. You're for the war or you're against it.
Follow me on this. You're on some crappy show that's not on Fox so the dopey anchor has to pretend to at least be slightly objective. Let's use the hideous Paula.
You support the war and you and I are on together.
I come on as the one against the war. (Fat chance, I know, people against the war don't get on the air that often.) Do I start saying, "Now first, Paula, I do support our troops ..."
If I do that, Paula grins to the camera at the end of the segment and says, "Well one thing we can agree on, we all support the troops."
So the take away is "we all support the troops" and it's just a minor detail as to how to best support the troops.
No one's really focusing on the issue of is the war right or wrong, should we be over there or not. Those are the side issues because as Paula points out for us, "we can all agree that we support our troops."
(I'm not Noam. If I were, I'd have stated the above better.)
I'll end this rant with, why is it the only people Al ever thanks are the miliatry. "Thank you for your service." He's had on diplomats, ambassadors, he's had on people who were in the Peace Corp. Go down the list, he's even had on a president he thinks was amazing. But the only one that gets "thank you for your service" is the military.
And though I love Unfiltered, how come every Tuesday we get "ask a vet" but we don't get a segment on "ask a peace advocate"?
Maybe I'm

Posted by: Elaine at November 11, 2004 08:32 PM

On my tab!

Posted by: Robert Novack at November 11, 2004 08:28 PM

in the lounge janeane our star
spotted novak so lonely and far
kindness it caught her
ordered a vinegar and water
for that douchbag at the end of the bar

Posted by: RWiley at November 11, 2004 08:32 PM

I live on the coast. The south is wonderful, just over run with a majority of ignorant people. Some mountain areas in the Carolinas seem to be very liberal. Everyone should take a trip to Boone, NC where App. State is and the buds grow very green.

Posted by: GregZ at November 11, 2004 08:32 PM

Hurray for Keith Oberman! The Bloggerman's a tv journalist.

Posted by: PEACE IN at November 11, 2004 08:33 PM

fish got served.

Posted by: cate at November 11, 2004 08:33 PM

The South Park guys ARE right-wingers Janeane. They've admitted they're Repugs a few times, and that movie was obviously right-wing propaganda. I'm glad it tanked, and Ebert trashed it.

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:29 PM

The South Parks guys are (unwitting?) TOOLS. Are they homosexuals?

Posted by: PEACE IN at November 11, 2004 08:30 PM
..........................................................................................
have you met trey parker or matt stone?
no. didn't think so.
they may be overcome by wealth, but i can say trey is a very nice guy.(as far as famous dudes go.)

Posted by: Becca at November 11, 2004 08:33 PM

UH ... That means there were 120 million who either voted against him or didn't vote at all.

MANDATE MY ASS

Posted by: at November

saw it first time you posted. But you know Bush going to be the one sworn in
how many votes did candy kerrie get

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:33 PM

Sam,

~~~ sarcasm- for gods sake man. hold it together. ~~~

Yeah sure!

Goddamn lizard!

Posted by: Fishgrease at November 11, 2004 08:33 PM

I don't like Drew Barrymore.

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:28 PM
-------------------

Obviously a no-nic Paid Freeper Troll spewing unbelievable lies. I'll believe the exit polls were wrong before I believe there is anyone who doesn't like Drew!

Posted by: nmark in Toledo at November 11, 2004 08:33 PM

GOLD BRICKS
Teach us Your secret, Master! yap my Yahoos.
Then for the hardness of their hearts, and for the
softness of their heads, I taught them Magick.
But...alas!
Teach us Your real secret, Master! how to become
invisible, how to acquire love, and oh! beyond all, how to make gold.
But how much gold will you give me for the Secret
of Infinite Riches?
Then said the foremost and most foolish; Master, it is nothing; but here is an hundred thousand pounds. This did I deign to accept, and whispered in his earthis secret:
A SUCKER IS BORN EVERY MINUTE.

COMMENTARY
The term "gold bricks" is borrowed from American finance.
The chapter is a setting of an old story.
A man advertises that he could tell anyone how to
make four hundred a year certain, and would do so
on receipt of a shilling. To every sender he dispatched a post-card with these words: "Do as I do."
The word "sucker" is borrowed from American finance.
The moral of the chapter is, that it is no good trying to teach people who need to be taught.

--uncle aleistet the book of lies(liber CCCXXXIII)
88 and commentary

Posted by: dadalux at November 11, 2004 08:33 PM

and who thought that Keith's show seemeed too much like Pardon the Interuption on ESPN?

Posted by: GregZ at November 11, 2004 08:33 PM

Toby Keith - A boot in your ass, it's the American way.

Posted by: xrayman at November 11, 2004 08:30 PM

You mean, TOBY QUEEF!

Haha! Click on my name, and it will take you to my semi-skanky anti-Bush comedy page, and you will see the words "The Legend of Toby Queef" on there somewhere, and if you click on that, you can go to my Toby Queef bashing page for a couple free cheap laughs! Hahah!!!

Posted by: LeeP at November 11, 2004 08:33 PM

Becca, but nice guys don't blow up Janeane's head (ok it was a puppet) in a movie :-)

Posted by: Bushleague at November 11, 2004 08:34 PM

HAHAHAHA!

Posted by: Fishgrease at November 11, 2004 08:35 PM

SHAME ON YOU!!!

While I've been a politically active liberal Democrat all my life and generally applaud Air America's objective, with great chagrin, I listened to your show for only the second or third time this evening. I assure you it will be my last.

First, I heard Janeane Garofolo's flip comment insinuating an equivalence between neo-cons and Jews that quite frankly, recalls the time when right-wing John Birch types used to equate "Communist" with "Jew", the former functioning as a code word for the latter.

Look, I abhor neo-con pols as well but neither are most Neo-cons, Jews, nor most Jews, neo-cons. And I should haven't to tell you, Janeane. Their ascriptive identity is decidedly beside the point. You wouldn't stoop to calling Ohio Secretary of State, J. Lucien Blackwell an "Uncle Tom" because he's black and a Republican or would you?

Next, I heard Sam Seder say he'd like to see Ariel Sharon die or at the very least get hit by a bus. "Now, that Arafat's dead: one good deed deserves another" How pathetic! How juvenile!

Don't we all wish our political opponents to disappear from the face of the earth, Sharon, no less than Bush? Alas, the world isn't so simple. First of all, I shouldn't have to remind Mr. Seder of an important fact: Arafat begot Prime Minister Sharon. After rejecting Barak and Clinton; after Arafat, in fact, ensured Barak's electoral defeat by rejecting 95-98% of the Occupied territories and 50% of Jerusalem (read Dennis Ross) and opting for violence instead, 62% of Israel elected the Palestinians greatest enemy. Can you blame them?

Second of all, Mr. Seder, you should be careful what you wish for. If Sharon dies, we get Bibi. Or would you prefer a Moledet-Likud coalition that calls for expelling the Palestinians? Sharon, I'm afraid, is the last bulwark between sanity and Revisionist Zionism and the National Religious Parties. You would do well to study Israeli politics before wishing for calamity-- a calamity because it only would exacerbate the current stalemate, if not sign peace's death certificate.

All of which leads me to wonder whether the name of your radio show isn't, in fact, ironic. The MAJOR

Posted by: Matthew Schweber at November 11, 2004 08:35 PM

So you're basically saying that Halliburton is arming the insurgents? Jeez, why don't we just hire them as contractors and put them on the payroll. They's probably stop the uprising right away when they learn that they will get paid twice as much as an American GI to loot.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 11, 2004 08:36 PM

A quote I like: People would rather watch things than eat.

Posted by: preFasc Consultant at November 11, 2004 08:36 PM

In some Russian opinion pieces I've read about Putin's support of Jr., they claim that Putin both likes the idea of being able to act unilaterally in international relations and sees that every year that the U.S. continues Jr.'s foreign policy pushes Europe further and further away from the U.S.

Posted by: Ponchik at November 11, 2004 08:36 PM

Captain we arm most of the groups we fight against in one way or another.

Posted by: GregZ at November 11, 2004 08:36 PM

buhahahaha...boy am I glad that we're all getting back to being crazy again

Posted by: Nobody at November 11, 2004 08:36 PM

David, you rocked us in Fort Worth in September, THANK YOU!!

Posted by: TNB at November 11, 2004 08:36 PM

Actually I'm not kidding, I just don't like Drew Barrymore. I don't dislike her either. I just don't think she has much going on.

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:36 PM

Captain O, I was being sarcastic. But you have to wonder who is funding these guys and how come they seem to have better equipment than our people.

Posted by: Bushleague at November 11, 2004 08:37 PM

Becca, but nice guys don't blow up Janeane's head (ok it was a puppet) in a movie :-)

Posted by: Bushleague at November 11, 2004 08:34 PM
.......................................................................................
really?
i haven't seen it yet.
maybe he should start x'ing again.

Posted by: Becca at November 11, 2004 08:37 PM

MANDATE MY ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.esri.com/industries/elections/graphics/results2004_lg.jpg

Posted by: 13ben at November 11, 2004 08:37 PM

oh hell yes!
anthrax
*

no time
for dancing
or lovey dovey
i aint got time
for that now
*

http://www.cfpf.org.uk/

http://www.survivalafterdeath.org/

http://www.thisistherealtruth.com/images/paine.gif

http://www.cfpf.org.uk/articles/background/scientificproof/scientificproof1.html

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:37 PM

David is oxygen.

Posted by: PEACE IN at November 11, 2004 08:38 PM

All of which leads me to wonder whether the name of your radio show isn't, in fact, ironic. The MAJORITY Report,huh? I'm beginning to wonder whether you perfectly mirror that other organization that fancies itself a MAJORITY.

In a rambunctious, healthy, pluralist democracy, we should be skeptical, if not fearful, of any group that claims it possesses some kind of metaphysical, abstract, a priori MAJORITY. As James Madison understood, such is a prescription for arrogance, intolerance, and worse, tyrrany.

But after listening to your show, I think I'd prefer a MINORITY report or the Voice of Dissent; which incidentally, if you read Thomas Paine, is the true Voice of America.

Posted by: Matthew Schweber at November 11, 2004 08:38 PM

David Byrne: I also wrestled under the name 'El Diablo'.
Lenny: Wasn't that Philip Glass?
David Byrne: Yeah, he wishes.

Posted by: cate at November 11, 2004 08:38 PM

were not all rednecks here in the south. ever been to chapel hill? athens? charlottesville?

Posted by: GregZ at November 11, 2004 08:18 PM
-----------

I've been to NC and Chapel Hill and the outer banks, etc. Loved it. These F the south people are pretty culturally ignorant so it's kind of pointless to try and enlighten them.

Posted by: Meg at November 11, 2004 08:38 PM

TV time...

Posted by: greg at November 11, 2004 08:38 PM

"saw it first time you posted. But you know Bush going to be the one sworn in
how many votes did candy kerrie get"

Maybe 59 willion to Bushes 54 million after you take off the 6 million votes the Rebublicons stole.

Posted by: Fred at November 11, 2004 08:38 PM

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.............

Where's Janeane?

Posted by: English Opium Eater at November 11, 2004 08:38 PM

I have no problem with respect for any who serves but I don't define service as being solely the military.

I realize that, as Noam Chomsky pointed out on the first Gulf War, we've all fallen into the right's "support our troops" argument. By that I mean, I don't hate our troops, I don't want them (or anyone) killed.

But I don't preface my remarks against the war with, "Now I support the troops." That's a non-issue. You're for the war or you're against it.

Posted by: Elaine at November 11, 2004 08:32 PM

Amen.

I'll go a step further. I don't support the troops. I think that each and everyone of them should have refused to go.

I don't support the bloated military budget that is taking away from seniors, veterans, children, and the least capable in our society.

I don't support any asshole who thinks that killing the ultimately defenseless is 'glorious', in any way shape or form.

Posted by: | at November 11, 2004 08:39 PM

So how long will it be before N Korea and China decide they will take pre-emptive action when they see fit? Bush does, Putin will from now on, Israel has been, and India and Pakistan may in the future (though against each other)....

Posted by: NAIS at November 11, 2004 08:39 PM

no.
you mandate
my ass 13ben
:)

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:39 PM

Fun stuff to wear to your thanksgiving dinner:

Posted by: Resistor at November 11, 2004 08:39 PM

Thanks Meg. outer banks are great, just dont go during hurricane season :-)

Posted by: GregZ at November 11, 2004 08:39 PM

What up with that, Sam?

This is getting spooky.

Posted by: Fishgrease at November 11, 2004 08:20
PM

Geez. I hope he's not turning into Al Franken.

Posted by: pezwaldo at November 11, 2004 08:21 PM

*********

I wonder the same thing. Someone on the blog said Franken wants to run for Senate so he can't seem like a "wacko" anymore... so he's already training for the good old boys network in the Senate? And now Sam? What is going on?

Posted by: Frankie at November 11, 2004 08:39 PM

CARSON CITY, Nev. - Nevada Controller Kathy Augustine(Republican) was impeached by the state Assembly Thursday for using her state-paid office workers and equipment to help run her 2002 re-election campaign.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041112/ap_on_re_us/nevada_controller_impeachment

Posted by: voteSTOLEN at November 11, 2004 08:40 PM

DO NOT ASK HIM " Will the Talking Heads get back together?) HE HATES THAT QUESTION!!

Posted by: TNB at November 11, 2004 08:40 PM

Actually I'm not kidding, I just don't like Drew Barrymore. I don't dislike her either. I just don't think she has much going on.
Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:36 PM

After watching Charlie's Angels Full Throttle, I find it hard to argue with you.

Posted by: Dems fightin words at November 11, 2004 08:40 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeware

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:40 PM

Not sure which is worse. The swearing and blood and guts of Saving Private Ryan or the Judds Thanksgiving Holiday Special. I find it most interesting that after watching people blown to shit all day on the news, that I can't watch the simulated stuff. This topic is of interest to me as I started my political life dealing with censorship and the rights of the youth. While I could care less about the actual film, the censorship that going on interests me greatly. The FCC has bullied it's way into the media and done as I predicted. It has scared away the little guy who, if fined, would have to shut down their operations.

Posted by: Emelius Browne at November 11, 2004 08:40 PM

I'm being sarcastic too, but of course, I'm kidding on the square.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 11, 2004 08:41 PM

SHAME ON YOU!!!

Next, I heard Sam Seder say he'd like to see Ariel Sharon die or at the very least get hit by a bus. "Now, that Arafat's dead: one good deed deserves another" How pathetic! How juvenile!

All of which leads me to wonder whether the name of your radio show isn't, in fact, ironic. The MAJOR

Posted by: Matthew Schweber at November 11, 2004 08:41 PM

Dammit, where is Gay Boi Charlie...I'm parched!

Posted by: Bushleague at November 11, 2004 08:41 PM

LOVE x 1000

Posted by: economically spaced blog love at November 11, 2004 08:13 PM

soooooooooo...
theres not enough
blog either?
bummer.

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:41 PM

If Sam quit stuttering and left out the UH's you would get an extra 2 minutes of programming for every 10 minutes between commercials.

Posted by: Fred at November 11, 2004 08:42 PM

I own the copyrights on my songs, but I still let people download some for free on my web site so that they can listen to it and enjoy it, especially, the songs that I've written and recorded that diss Bush and his goons!

Here's the web site:

http://www.aesound.com/leepax/

Posted by: LeeP at November 11, 2004 08:42 PM

"Mandate my ass!"

Gil Scott-Heron, off the song "B Movie". He was talking about the Reagan win in 1980.

David seems very mellow today.

Posted by: English Opium Eater at November 11, 2004 08:42 PM

Posted by: Elaine at November 11, 2004 08:32 PM

Your boyfriend is wrong. Good points. We have all been bullied into this "uber-patriotism", especially since 9/11.
The only thing noble about war is when it ends.

Posted by: Rusty at November 11, 2004 08:42 PM

Sam and Janeane have admitted they are political hacks. But they do provide a lot of useful content. The [point for my listenership is that they have positive ideas in the way of personal human rights, and one doesn't need to have a Law or History post-graduate degree to believe in equality.

I think Sam is a practicing Jew as well, so he can say anything he wants about Jews I guess.

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:42 PM

PLEASE POST NO IMAGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: SEDER at November 11, 2004 08:42 PM

Atone

Posted by: Becca at November 11, 2004 07:50 PM
Then we need to start a Campaign Against the War
holding the Republican's feet to to the fire for the mistakes
of going to war and losing the war, for the 100,000+ dead civilians and the thousands of American dead and wounded.
Let's get these self righteous true believers to atone for their transgressions.

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at November 11, 2004 08:42 PM

well i had a moment of inspiration and put a personalized mandate my ass pic up
http://profiles.myspace.com/users/4121819
i wanted to do the formal aplogy for
http://www.sorryeverybody.com/gallery/1/
but it was getting jammed......

Posted by: Becca at November 11, 2004 08:43 PM

What about Shania Twain on the Country Music Awards...that's okay...but Saving Private Ryan...not okay.

WHO WANTS BIBLES??!! I'm getting all of my conservative friends and co-workers engraved Old Testaments for the holidays. My Jewish friends are all getting Comparative Study Bibles...

Posted by: Sandie in The OC at November 11, 2004 08:43 PM

PLEASE POST NO IMAGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: SEDER at November 11, 2004 08:42 PM

AND NO PRAYING TO FALSE GODS OR IDOLS!

Posted by: Bushleague at November 11, 2004 08:43 PM

When the Nazi soldiers were gassing the jews, many german people said they "supported the troops." We have now killed 100,000 Iraqi civilians in order to find the wmds...or save them from Sadaam... and we're the ones saying we "support our troops."

Can anyone explain the difference between supporting them today, and supporting the Nazi soldiers in WWII?

Just wondering...

Posted by: Frankie at November 11, 2004 08:43 PM

David seems very mellow today.

Posted by: English Opium Eater at November 11, 2004 08:42 PM

LOL dude its david byrne! It's not Jello Biafra or World Wrestling League freak.

Posted by: cubejockey at November 11, 2004 08:44 PM

MANDATE MY ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: 13ben

check out this untainted one bozo

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/vote2004/countymap.htm

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:44 PM

county by county "red vs. blue" electoral map in 3D...

paints a more accurate picture of the support for the two candidates....

http://www.esri.com/industries/elections/graphics/results2004_lg.jpg

Posted by: 13ben at November 11, 2004 08:44 PM

Post 911 Era, The Rise of the 18% Dick Cheney minority!

America the Ugly!!! For amber waves of KAKA...

Posted by: pablo at November 11, 2004 08:44 PM

i tried watching charlies angels full throttle ages ago on video and i just had absolutley no idea what was going. and then i fell asleep. maybe it was too clever a film for my little brain and so it just said "NO! i am going to sleep"

Posted by: cate at November 11, 2004 08:44 PM

What about Shania Twain on the Country Music Awards...that's okay...but Saving Private Ryan...not okay.

Posted by: Sandie in The OC at November 11, 2004 08:43 PM

What did Shania do at CMA?

Posted by: PatLovesJaneane at November 11, 2004 08:44 PM

I don't really care for Drew Barrymore either. She produces crappy movies (Charlie's Angels) and she married Tom Green.

Posted by: English Opium Eater at November 11, 2004 08:45 PM

Sam is fine. Just because he and Al dont buy into the voter fraud issue as much, doesnt mean something is wrong. There should be a VARIETY of opinions on AAR

Posted by: GregZ at November 11, 2004 08:45 PM

guess I'll visit creativecommons.com later, appears busy.

Posted by: rustle of luv at November 11, 2004 08:45 PM

Dammit, where is Gay Boi Charlie...I'm parched!

Posted by: Bushleague at November 11, 2004 08:41 PM

Yeah, haven't seen GBC here since Election night. Haven't seen ActUp either. :(

Posted by: pezwaldo at November 11, 2004 08:45 PM

http://www.indyvoter.org

PUBLIC HEARINGS IN OHIO!

They might have conceded - but we haven't conceded our right to have our votes count.

The Ohio Citizens Alliance for Secure Elections (CASE-OH), This Time We're Watching, the League of Young Voters, People for the American Way Foundation - a leading member of the Election Protection Coalition, Common Cause Ohio, Ohio Election Reform Now, Columbus Institute for Contemporary Journalism, WVKO Radio, and Ohio Voterization Project are calling for public hearings to investigate voting irregularities and vote suppression in Ohio surrounding the 2004 General Election.

THIS IS A NONPARTISAN STATEWIDE CALL TO ACTION. VOTERS AND POLL WORKERS FROM AROUND THE STATE ARE INVITED TO TESTIFY.

Saturday November 13, 1-4 PM
New Faith Baptist Church
955 Oak Street
Columbus, Ohio 43205

Monday November 15, 6-9 PM,
Auditorium (Meeting Room A)
Courthouse, 373 S. High St.
Columbus, OH

We are calling for anyone who experienced or observed election irregularities or vote suppression on Election Day to come forward and
give their testimony.

We are calling for any individuals or organizations that have information about election irregularities or voter suppression that occured before, during or after the elections to give their testimony.

We are calling for our public officials, community representatives and the media to come and hear the testimony of the people.

We will document and videotape the testimonies for use in a report and a formal complaint to the Franklin County Board of Elections.

This is a public space to respond to the systemic undermining of our democratic process and assess how to respond to racial disenfranchisement and suppression of democratic rights.

Citizens, voting experts, and investigative journalists will be invited to present testimony for the public record documenting instances of voting irregularities and systematic voter suppression. The coalition hopes to expose the systemic undermining of our democratic process that occurred leading up to and on Nov 2, and assess how to respond to racial
disenf

Posted by: Renee in Ohio at November 11, 2004 08:45 PM

Geez, msnbc is running the US military's
account of all "600 militants" in Falluja
being whacked ?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6403689/

Well, I guess we won !!
We won !! Yeah !!
Now we can give Falluja back to ...
ummmmmm ...
well ...
not the Fallujans we killed ?
How 'bout the Fallujans we drove
out of town and then blew their
houses up or shot full of holes
or both ?

Yes, we'll give Falluja back to them !!
Yeah !!
They'll love us !!
It's all about destroying a town before
you can say it's free !!

Free at last, free at last, thank Bush
almighty Iraq is free at last !!

Posted by: Ajax at November 11, 2004 08:45 PM

Seder is a practicing Jew like Arafat is a practicing skydiver.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 11, 2004 08:46 PM

I don't really care for Drew Barrymore either. She produces crappy movies (Charlie's Angels) and she married Tom Green.

Posted by: English Opium Eater at November 11, 2004 08:45 PM

hey, you can't say that - she produced Donnie Darko.

Posted by: cate at November 11, 2004 08:46 PM

I knew ActUp was going to take some time "off" if you will. I'm worried about Annatopia. Check out her web page (I don't have the link handy). I'm hoping Anna just took a break too.

Posted by: Bushleague at November 11, 2004 08:46 PM

My question is not whether God is on our side, but rather how could God appoint this fool as President!

Posted by: God Fearing American at November 11, 2004 08:47 PM

or ceres

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:47 PM

~~~ Maybe 59 willion to Bushes 54 million after you take off the 6 million votes the Rebublicons stole. ~~~

I figger 4.2 million stolen (perhaps redirected) votes... which is astounding. Much more than they wanted. Once the routines were turned on... they kinda got out of hand. Rove never meant to take most states by the margin they eventually did -- even considering there might have been as many as 16 states that were tweaked. Especially Florida. I think Florida got away from them big time.

Rove: "You idiot... why didn't you turn it off?"

Diebold Guy: "You never spec'd the ability to turn it off, dude."

Posted by: Fishgrease at November 11, 2004 08:47 PM

"Someone on the blog said Franken wants to run for Senate"

Everyone will mistake him for Paul Simon:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.ilgop.org/content/img/f10487/Paul%2520Simon.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.ilgop.org/news/sectionlist.asp%3Fs%3D%26month%3D12%26year%3D2003&h=409&w=301&sz=18&tbnid=9AVpEGySziMJ:&tbnh=120&tbnw=89&start=7&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dpaul%2Bsimon%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:47 PM

Bush Anna is done for awhile

Posted by: GregZ at November 11, 2004 08:47 PM

Saving Private Ryan is a piece of crap, anyway. There doing us a favor, but they don't realize it.

The Thin Red Line is a better film.

Posted by: English Opium Eater at November 11, 2004 08:47 PM

Hi everyone...

Posted by: Liz at November 11, 2004 08:47 PM

Yeah, haven't seen GBC here since Election night. Haven't seen ActUp either. :(

Posted by: pezwaldo at November 11, 2004 08:45 PM

They'll be back. Took me a week to get dried out and undepressed.

Posted by: Rusty at November 11, 2004 08:48 PM

Yes, MR & AAR help spearhead a voter's right movement. Help Florida.

Posted by: PEACE IN at November 11, 2004 08:48 PM

Someone at AAR needs to move on Sam and JG seem to be doing that Franken is backing up, Rhodes and Malloy are determined to get to the bottom of this voter fraud thing

Posted by: Fred at November 11, 2004 08:48 PM

David, bring your Power Point to Texas, where the majority of the people are ignorant Bush lovers!

Posted by: TNB at November 11, 2004 08:48 PM

I don't really care for Drew Barrymore either. She produces crappy movies (Charlie's Angels) and she married Tom Green.

Posted by: English Opium Eater at November 11, 2004 08:45 PM
-----------

He divorced her a few years back actually.

Posted by: Meg at November 11, 2004 08:48 PM

Nice guys don't make compelling radio.

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:48 PM

Can anyone explain the difference between supporting them today, and supporting the Nazi soldiers in WWII?

Just wondering...

Posted by: Frankie at November 11, 2004 08:43 PM

Fundamentally there's no difference. In both cases the powers that be ordered the troops to engage in what amounts to war crimes. The citizens of Nazi Germany who's sons and husbands were thrown in the meat grinder had no choice but to support 'the troops', but unfortunately also in both cases that same group of people, out of fear and nationalist belligerance, also supported those that gave the orders.

Iraq is a war crime. It's criminal aggression, which is the crime which most of the Nazis were hung for at Nuremburg.

Posted by: the3rdoption at November 11, 2004 08:48 PM

Anybody know how Venus DeMilo jerked off?

Posted by: E. 9th. St. Vinnie at November 11, 2004 08:48 PM

Yes, MR & AAR help spearhead a voter's rights movement. Help Florida.

Posted by: PEACE IN at November 11, 2004 08:48 PM

GregZ, thanks for the update. I was a bit concerned when I went to her site and saw that image. I can understand her need to step back.

Posted by: Bushleague at November 11, 2004 08:48 PM

Then we need to start a Campaign Against the War
holding the Republican's feet to to the fire for the mistakes
of going to war and losing the war, for the 100,000+ dead civilians and the thousands of American dead and wounded.
Let's get these self righteous true believers to atone for their transgressions.

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at November 11, 2004 08:42 PM
..............................................................................
i didn't say atone....
anyway, i'd like certain people to see the error of thier ways but i do not believe it is in thier "path" to do so.
however we ca still make a difference and take our country back.

Posted by: Becca at November 11, 2004 08:48 PM

powerpoint. argh!

has anybody heard of microworlds?

hi liz.

Posted by: cate at November 11, 2004 08:48 PM

"Seder is a practicing Jew like Arafat is a practicing skydiver."
Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 11, 2004 08:46 PM

Why? Cause he's six feet under ground?

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:49 PM

David Byrne -- Yaawwn. . . He's so . . . artistic.

Posted by: xrayman at November 11, 2004 08:49 PM

Hiya cate

Posted by: Liz at November 11, 2004 08:49 PM

Hi everyone...

Posted by: Liz at November 11, 2004 08:47 PM

Hi, Liz.

Posted by: Rusty at November 11, 2004 08:49 PM

Donnie Darko isn't crap, but it's a bit overrated. Want a real cult film? Watch Eraserhead and The Holy Mountain.

Posted by: English Opium Eater at November 11, 2004 08:49 PM

Hi Rusty, anything fun going on?

Posted by: Liz at November 11, 2004 08:50 PM

The reds states are purple damnit.

Posted by: PEACE IN at November 11, 2004 08:50 PM

When is Janeane going to have a kid? I was just thinking about that the other day... Her biological clock is just sitting there and tickin', and I was wondering if she'll ever have a kid? She would be a good mom, I think. If she needs any sperm donors, I could open a clinic, haha! It's probably more fun to do it the old-fashioned way though, instead of the "Wacko-Jacko" test tube way, ya know what I mean? Haha! I mean, I know it ain't none of my business, But still, when is Janeane going to have a baby, if ever?!!!

Posted by: LeeP at November 11, 2004 08:50 PM

No Problem a few days ago www.talkleft.com did a story about some of the blogs that are going down from the post-election drag..

Gotta go everyone. Keep up the good fight in hour 3.

Posted by: GregZ at November 11, 2004 08:50 PM

Anyone know what happened to ActUpFightBack? I'm missing her turn of phrase and threats to gain marital status in Northern Canulistan.

Posted by: CaLuM at November 11, 2004 08:50 PM

Buzz linked to Fuck the south on Monday. If it's humor, I'm missing it.

"ck the South. Fuck 'em. We should have let them go when they wanted to leave."

"We"? How old is this person? (The author of fuck the south, not the person who copied this into a post.)

"But no, we had to kill half a million people so they'd stay part of our special Union. Fighting for the right to keep slaves - yeah, those are states we want to keep. And now what do we get? We're the fucking Arrogant Northeast Liberal Elite? How about this for arrogant: the South is the Real America? The AuthenticAmerica. Really?"

Who do you think is in the south? Are you stereotyping everyone as Archie Bunkers? That's a pretty big stretch. But since you brought up African-Americans in the form of slaves, you are aware that African-Americans live in the south currently, right?
If you want to fight a stereotype, I'm not sure you do it by responding with one ("Arrogant Northeast Liberal Elite" vs this broad generalization of the south).

"Cause we fucking founded this country, assholes. Those Founding Fathers you keep going on and on about? All that bullshit about what you think they meant by the Second Amendment giving you the right to keep your assault weapons in the glove compartment because you didn't bother to read the first half of the fucking sentence? Who do you think those wig-wearing lacy-shirt sporting revolutionarieswere? They were fucking blue-staters, dickhead. Boston? Philadelphia? New York? Hello? Think there might be a reason all the fucking monuments are up here in our backyard?"

Oh, so you (the fuck the south author, not the person who posted it) apparently came over on the Mayflower. And offers a big f-you to every one else who was an immigrant later on OR was already here. In fact, they're all "assholes" by your statements. Does no one else get how racist that is? Or the implied logic (if that word can be used) that lives were "wasted" fighting to end slavery because of some voting reality today? Is no one else offended by that talk?
The "Founding Fathers" didn't "found" this country. They founded thirteen colonies. But the country was here before them. And

Posted by: Jake at November 11, 2004 08:50 PM

hehe.. Eraserhead is less overrated than Donnie Darko? :)

Posted by: the3rdoption at November 11, 2004 08:50 PM

The exit polls were correct! It's the guy in the white house that is incorrect

Posted by: PoopyJoe at November 11, 2004 08:22 PM
*******

that is a funny nicname! and... your message is right on!

Posted by: Frankie at November 11, 2004 08:50 PM

atone

at
one

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:51 PM

What blogs are going down?

Posted by: Meg at November 11, 2004 08:51 PM

When did Gola Wolfe Richards start traveling by lightning bolt?

Posted by: KevinK at November 11, 2004 08:51 PM

The Diebold software has a bug file consisting of some 1500+ reported errors that have been "fixed" over its lifetime. Some of these errors are problems with votes being dropped. It's like Microsoft's philosophy: we'll design it, and let the public test it.

Posted by: Dems fightin words at November 11, 2004 08:51 PM

How 'bout asking: Will Tina Weymouth ever get it together?

Posted by: preFasc Consultant at November 11, 2004 08:51 PM

Gonzales Loves Torture"

Wasn't that the German TV version of "I Love Lucy?"

Posted by: rustle of luv at November 11, 2004 08:51 PM

Donnie Darko isn't crap, but it's a bit overrated. Want a real cult film? Watch Eraserhead and The Holy Mountain.

Posted by: English Opium Eater at November 11, 2004 08:49 PM

i have. well, eraserhead at least. i would argue that donnie darko isn't overrated. you can argue against over zealous raving lunatics who claim its the best movie ever...but you can't fight the fact that it is good. and good, these days, is hard to come by

Posted by: cate at November 11, 2004 08:51 PM

Hi Rusty, anything fun going on?

Posted by: Liz at November 11, 2004 08:50 PM

Yeah, Ron Silver showed up on the blog, but he's calling himself Matthew Schweber.

Posted by: Rusty at November 11, 2004 08:51 PM

Keith Olberman is a tv journalist.

Posted by: PEACE IN at November 11, 2004 08:52 PM

Sam is trying to keep you screwballs on the road and out of the ditch. You should listen to him. He has more info on the vote then you do.

Posted by: Bye Bye John at November 11, 2004 08:52 PM

David's an asshole.

Posted by: Chris Frantz, Tina Weywouth, and Jerry Harrison at November 11, 2004 08:52 PM

The DNC should spend the election and the mid-terms supporting our candidates, and pushing our agenda. The rest of the time should be spent doing the same thing.

This is done by enlisting county coordinators in EVERY SINGLE COUNTY IN AMERICA. Make it interesting and fun for those people, have a special central website for them. Have them estyablish three levels of phone tree: one for election work, one for emergency issues, and one for special projects. Base operating budgets on population per county. Some county coordinators can operate out of their livingrooms, some need offices and staff. Be sure to provide adequate staff in heavy fund raising areas, regardless of population levels. Have county cooridinator create an event crew (theater and perfroming arts students are useful in this capacity, and you can write evaluations, so they get academic work study credit), and a list of venues willing to discount or donate use of facilities. Do the same with caterers, grocery stores, any business willing to contribute cash or in-kind. In-kind donations can be better in some cases for all concerened. Use the venues, hold events, and make sure you don't lie about the events. This approach is useful just because the republicans can't emulate it.

Open a string of nonprofit Democratic Party Bingo Parlors across the country, and have decent prizes. Open Democrat Reading Rooms that carry our propaganda, mostly the old stuff... y'know, Payne, Jefferson, Madison, Adams... not liberal or progrssive exclusively, but conservative and centrist democratic as well. Democracy wants to hear from everyone.

Start a CONGREGATION OF TRUTH movement, with a program of respected religious leaders who travel from church to church (and anywhere else that'll have them) and present a program based on truth and morality according to the great religious teachings.

Of course, if you give me time, I can do much better, but this is what flew off the top of my head.

These are the things I haven't already discussed. Look over the last couple of days, and you'll find a lot from me about steps to move from a conspicuous consumer capitalism to high-craft ethic capitalism.

Much of what needs to be done is

Posted by: John Iceknife at November 11, 2004 08:52 PM

Premature Peaches all. Going to watch Last Letters on HBO. We don't usually get it, but it's on, so I'm going early.

Posted by: Bushleague at November 11, 2004 08:52 PM

When is Janeane going to have a kid? blah blah blah

---------------------------

She has the dogs instead.

Posted by: KevinK at November 11, 2004 08:52 PM

Rove: "You idiot... why didn't you turn it off?"

Diebold Guy: "You never spec'd the ability to turn it off, dude."

Posted by: Fishgrease

i figger Fishgrease is very slimey

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:52 PM

I mean...

Byrne props.

doi.

Posted by: rustle of luv at November 11, 2004 08:53 PM

G'night bushleague

Posted by: Liz at November 11, 2004 08:53 PM

I live in Texas and it's fucking awful, the ignorance level is like none I've ever experienced before. I've lived on both coasts and the midwest and let me tell you, Texas has many more ignorant people than anywhere I've ever been. Take a look at the president and the first lady.

Posted by: TNB at November 11, 2004 08:53 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041112/ap_on_re_us/nevada_controller_impeachment

Posted by: voteSTOLEN at November 11, 2004 08:53 PM

" to Texas, where the majority of the people are ignorant Bush lovers!"

How offensive! Guess you're just ignorant!

Posted by: red-state libbie at November 11, 2004 08:53 PM

I figured ActUp would be catching up on her sleep. Looks like Annatopia hasn't updated since October 29th, aside from her post-election statement.

http://www.annatopia.com/home.html

http://annatopia.com/

Posted by: pezwaldo at November 11, 2004 08:53 PM

Peachs taste good on Crackers.

Posted by: PEACE IN at November 11, 2004 08:53 PM

If Sam quit stuttering and left out the UH's you would get an extra 2 minutes of programming for every 10 minutes between commercials.

Posted by: Fred at November 11, 2004 08:42 PM
-----------------
If people stopped complaining about Sam's speech patterns we could save billions of electrons.

SAVE the ELECTRONS!

Posted by: nmark in Toledo at November 11, 2004 08:53 PM

Hi Liz.

Posted by: CaLuM at November 11, 2004 08:54 PM

Songs About Buildings And Food?

and

Why just Ohio?

These guys stole all across America.

Posted by: rustle of luv at November 11, 2004 08:54 PM

peaches bushleague.

Posted by: cate at November 11, 2004 08:54 PM

Message cut off, here was the second part:
Oh, so you (the fuck the south author, not the person who posted it) apparently came over on the Mayflower. And offers a big f-you to every one else who was an immigrant later on OR was already here. In fact, they're all "assholes" by your statements. Does no one else get how racist that is? Or the implied logic (if that word can be used) that lives were "wasted" fighting to end slavery because of some voting reality today? Is no one else offended by that talk?
The "Founding Fathers" didn't "found" this country. They founded thirteen colonies. But the country was here before them. And the nation expanded after them.
Maybe a Native American could shoot back, "Fuck the south and fuck the north! I'm sick of your squabbles! We were here, this is our country and we're tired of all this shit. These 'Founding Fathers' you keep bragging about? Hey, it was our land!"
It's just nonsense this bullshit that keeps getting posted. Yesterday two people posted about how painful this kind of talk was for them.
I think this is really the sort of crap that should be left to the likes of Rush. It reminds me of the sort of thing that led Clinton to make that speech after Oklahoma about how speech creates an environment. I really wish people would try to stop stereotyping. Especially when two people let us know last night that this stereotyping was bothering them.

Posted by: Jake at November 11, 2004 08:54 PM

G'night, Bushleague!

Posted by: Rusty at November 11, 2004 08:55 PM

S.Korea Made Near Bomb-Grade Uranium-U.N.
Thu Nov 11, 2004 01:56 PM ET

By Louis Charbonneau

VIENNA (Reuters) - The U.N. nuclear watchdog confirmed in a confidential report on Thursday that South Korea enriched a tiny amount of uranium in 2000 to a level close to what would be useable in an atomic weapon.

A senior diplomat close to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) also said a senior government scientist, the president of the Korean Atomic Energy Research Institute in Taejon, South Korea, had authorized the experiments with the uranium and knew about work with plutonium, also useable in nuclear weapons.

South Korea's government has said it had no knowledge of plutonium and uranium experiments, though the IAEA said it was still trying to verify this.

"Although the quantities of nuclear material involved have not been significant, the nature of the activities -- uranium enrichment and plutonium separation -- and the failures by (South Korea) to report these activities in a timely matter ... is a matter of serious concern," said the report, obtained by Reuters.

Reuters.com

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:55 PM

I'm a freaking idiot everyone - don't pay attention to me. I should really get a better pastime that belabouring my opinions upon all you thinking people.

I'm rather ashamed that I voted for George Bush, I just haven't realized it yet.

Posted by: Bye Bye John at November 11, 2004 08:55 PM

great music

Posted by: PEACE IN at November 11, 2004 08:55 PM

Kerry kind of implied he didn't want it...

I think if they look into the fraud issue they may have to do the election over again... I wonder if Meyers would make a good "military governor".. How many Rebublicons actually won seats in the congress ??

Posted by: Fred at November 11, 2004 08:55 PM

~~~ Sam is trying to keep you screwballs on the road and out of the ditch. You should listen to him. He has more info on the vote then you do. ~~~

If Sam could... he would reach right through the internet and yank your lungs out. If you think Sam and I disagree on ANYTHING you're sadly mistaken.

Fucking wingnuts!

*slap!*

Posted by: Fishgrease at November 11, 2004 08:55 PM

Does David BURN? Does he blaze tweed, that is? haha! Prolly not, although, he does sound really chilled out.

Posted by: LeeP at November 11, 2004 08:55 PM

Hey Liz! How's OK?

Posted by: pezwaldo at November 11, 2004 08:55 PM

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:55 PM

.....

eh hmmm...
Jeneane. Powerpoint is a SOFTWARE!!!
It's a presentation software. It's NOT an OBJECT.

ehrrrrr.......

Posted by: wanda at November 11, 2004 08:56 PM

Are you serious LeeP? Janeane hates kids. Or she'd hate to have any of her own, not a big kid person.

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:56 PM

Yes, Donnie Darko is a good movie. It's not the greatest ever made, like some think, but when a film is good these days, it gets raised to excellent, because everything's such crap today.

Posted by: English Opium Eater at November 11, 2004 08:56 PM

Posted by: TNB at November 11, 2004 08:53 PM

I lived in Texas when I was younger. Not one of my better memories.

Posted by: PatLovesJaneane at November 11, 2004 08:56 PM

hi CaLuM..this guy's voice is soothing me to sleepies...

Posted by: Liz at November 11, 2004 08:57 PM

This is the same interview David has been giving for about a year now.

I'm not really excited that he has discovered powerpoint. Sin ce he can't publish it, maybe he's bored.

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:57 PM

Posted by: English Opium Eater at November 11, 2004 08:56 PM

so what you're saying is everything is relative? i agree.

Posted by: cate at November 11, 2004 08:57 PM

PowerPoint is perfect for David's fine visual art. Very Byrnian.

Posted by: PEACE IN at November 11, 2004 08:57 PM

Sam could... he would reach right through the internet and yank your lungs out. If you think Sam and I disagree on ANYTHING you're sadly mistaken.

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Sam is trying to tell you something if you would listen.

Posted by: Bye Bye John at November 11, 2004 08:57 PM

In the Daily Kos thread about Kenneth Blackwell and the provisional ballots in Cuyahoga County, this was posted
---
I received this email yesterday

It's the first I've received from this office. I don't even know how they have my email. Maybe from some petition I signed. Dunno. I just found it rather odd.
Dear Ohio Voter:

Thank you for your patience and perseverance on November 2. The eyes of the nation and world were on Ohioans last week and you showed one and all how an informed, stable democracy functions.

Despite long lines and small technical glitches here and there, Ohio voters were calm and civil. You went to the polls in record numbers and made your voices heard. In the end, Ohio was not "another Florida". Ohio was itself - a proud state made up of informed, patriotic Americans determined to have their votes counted by their neighbors at the polls, and not by lawyers in the courts.

Thank you for the wonderful example you gave the world on November 2, 2004.

J. Kenneth Blackwell
Ohio Secretary of State
jkb@sos.state.oh.us

To unsubscribe from this list please click here.

To send comments or questions by United States Postal Service mail please write to:

J. Kenneth Blackwell
Ohio Secretary of State
180 E. Broad Street
Columbus, OH 43215

A voter education service provided by the Office of the Ohio Secretary of State.

By the way, when he was touring Ohio in support of Issue 1 (when he made that dreadful "barnyard" comment), he was travelling with Rod Parsley.

http://www.wtol.com/Global/story.asp?S=2457596

SYLVANIA -- Ohio's Secretary of State is coming out strong in support of Issue One, the measure that would ban same-sex marriage. Kenneth Blackwell spoke to an energized crowd at the Cathedral of Praise Tuesday night.

Blackwell said it's time for people of God to take a stand. He even drew a comparison between same-sex couples and farm animals. "I don't know how many of you have a farming background but I can tell you right now that notion even defies barnyard logic ... the barnyard knows better," said Blackwell referring to the idea of

Posted by: Renee in Ohio at November 11, 2004 08:57 PM

David has always been on the cutting edge. A true multimedia artist .. extraordinare!

And his wife is cool. :)

Posted by: the3rdoption at November 11, 2004 08:58 PM

Wow, suddenly I'm listening to NPR

Posted by: Morgan Patrick at November 11, 2004 08:58 PM

In the commercials for the CMA awards she was grinding just a little too much...

Posted by: Sandie in The OC at November 11, 2004 08:58 PM

just think what he'd do if he discovered flash.

Posted by: alloowishus at November 11, 2004 08:58 PM

Posted by: pezwaldo at November 11, 2004 08:55 PM

Very neocon and chilly
(Liz buries her face in her hands and weeps)

Posted by: Liz at November 11, 2004 08:58 PM

Ask him if hes ever worked with peaches

Posted by: vortex at November 11, 2004 08:58 PM

Oo . . . from violet to purple. Man that is great, David. Arrows dancing to gospel.

Oh, a satire. Now I get it.

One minute. Thank God.

Posted by: xrayman at November 11, 2004 08:58 PM

Still Waiting...

Posted by: rustle of luv at November 11, 2004 08:58 PM

I'm rather ashamed that I voted for George Bush, I just haven't realized it yet.

Posted by: Bye Bye John
at November 11, 2004 08:55 PM

hmmmmm ...
for some reason I'm thinking you aren't
big into realizing, anything.

Posted by: Ajax at November 11, 2004 08:59 PM

Texas has many more ignorant people than anywhere I've ever been. Take a look at the president and the first lady.

Posted by: TNB at November 11, 2004 08:53 PM
-------

I liked Austin when I visited there. There are good people all over Texas, but the rest of it runs on the 72 ounce steak mentality.

Posted by: Meg at November 11, 2004 08:59 PM

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:56 PM

Yeah, but if a kid sprung forth from her loinz, she would love it, and be talking baby talk in no time I bet..

I remember that SNL skit where Janeane was the mom in the car, and the kids in the back seat were acting like little Hellians and attacking each other with weapons and Janeane kept taking the weapons and the smoking bongs from them, it was Hilarious!
I knew right then and there that she could be a good mom, if she wanted to be!

Posted by: LeeP at November 11, 2004 08:59 PM

Janeane hates children. She has her dogs. She's happy with that.

Posted by: English Opium Eater at November 11, 2004 08:59 PM

"On fire?"

Or just smokin'?

Posted by: SanderHicksIsHot at November 11, 2004 08:59 PM

Moe, Moe, Moe,
How d’ya like me? How d’ya like me?
Moe, Moe, Moe,
Why don’t you like me? Nobody likes me

Posted by: cate at November 11, 2004 08:59 PM

just think what he'd do if he discovered flash.

Posted by: alloowishus at November 11, 2004 08:59 PM

Post 911 and the Rise of our "International Terrorist"

http://www.internationalterrorist.com/

Posted by: pablo at November 11, 2004 08:59 PM

I love david byrne too bad i missed the whole interview. Hi everybody!

Posted by: ameobamis at November 11, 2004 09:00 PM

David Byrne is awesome. His music with Brian Eno, My life in the Bush of Ghosts and Remain in Light are some of my all time faves. Go David.

Posted by: GTO5000 at November 11, 2004 09:00 PM

Peaches Bush...pas double entendre!

Posted by: CaLuM at November 11, 2004 09:00 PM

why must people hate on david byrne?

Posted by: cate at November 11, 2004 09:01 PM

I'm happy David is still out there.

Posted by: PEACE IN at November 11, 2004 09:01 PM

Very neocon and chilly
(Liz buries her face in her hands and weeps)

Posted by: Liz at November 11, 2004 08:58 PM

Sorry, hon. :(

*sends warm, positive liberal vibes to Liz*

Posted by: pezwaldo at November 11, 2004 09:01 PM

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh a hearty handshake! be still my beating heart!

Posted by: Liz at November 11, 2004 09:01 PM

The founding fathers found the nation as in a founrdy, like the act or process of founding or casting metal. They found the political system we use.

Posted by: KevinK at November 11, 2004 09:01 PM

Jeanane, You need to go see David Byrne in concert, it's an incredible experience!!

Thank you David!!

Posted by: TNB at November 11, 2004 09:01 PM

Peaches Bush...pas double entendre!

Posted by: CaLuM at November 11, 2004 09:01 PM

Sorry, hon. :(

*sends warm, positive liberal vibes to Liz*

Posted by: pezwaldo at November 11, 2004 09:01 PM
where are you? somewhere warm? or beautiful?

Posted by: Liz at November 11, 2004 09:02 PM

I heard Dillon was into ascii art.

Posted by: Fishgrease at November 11, 2004 09:02 PM

The found the political system, not the dirt.

Posted by: KevinK at November 11, 2004 09:02 PM

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 08:57 PM

Hmmm.... I smell...

a cynic?

Posted by: rustle of luv at November 11, 2004 09:02 PM

where are you? somewhere warm? or beautiful?

Posted by: Liz at November 11, 2004 09:02 PM

Does Vegas fall under any of those definitions? :)

Posted by: pezwaldo at November 11, 2004 09:03 PM

David has always been on the cutting edge.
Posted by: the3rdoption at November 11, 2004 08:58 PM
----------------------------------
20 years ago. . . maybe. Now, no.

Posted by: xrayman at November 11, 2004 09:03 PM

[2 of 2]

Much of what needs to be done is just organisation, but it's not done correctly, because many of the people doing it are guys in their 50's who can't quite get it into their heads that 70% of the people who can and will help them are women, so they need to learn to respect the things women like to do, and if they don't know what those things are, they need to ASK.

There are several areas that need to be covered. Counties should have adults who serve as youth club coordinator, and they should assist student club leaders whenever possible. We need to get people anbd businesses to sponsor Explorer Troups on behalf of the Democratic Party. Almost all Explorer troups go camping, but more than half have a special area of interest. Start grooming young democrats early. Since democratic training properly done is quite the opposite of indoctrination, then far from having anything to be ashamed of, we can be proud of what we teach the young folk. American History, or even American Revolution Re-Enactment Camp is also an interesting idea. Good resume credit for any aspiring pol.sci., am. hist., or prf. arts major.

Create a Party Platform CD with answers to any question a punidt might ask, or for that matter, any citizen might ask. Call it 'DEMOCRATIC ANSWERS'.

Posted by: John Iceknife at November 11, 2004 09:03 PM

Well that was a waste of time. Nice guy and all, but total waste of time.

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 09:04 PM

ooohh I like brian eno too!

Posted by: ameobamis at November 11, 2004 09:04 PM

Well that was a waste of time. Nice guy and all, but total waste of time.

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 09:04 PM

All of the sudden, I turned to the White Stripes.

Posted by: PatLovesJaneane at November 11, 2004 09:06 PM

I guess it's safe to say radio isn't David Byrne's best medium.

Catch him on Austin City Limits. A whole different dude.

Posted by: Sara J Hagan at November 11, 2004 09:06 PM

Has the NPR listener listened to NPR lately? He or she will coming running back to AAR's radio turf dazed and confused. NPR has caved like most of the media. It makes me very sad.

Posted by: PEACE IN at November 11, 2004 09:06 PM

I liked Austin when I visited there. There are good people all over Texas, but the rest of it runs on the 72 ounce steak mentality.
Posted by: Meg at November 11, 2004 08:59 PM

Gee, could it be that Austin voted for Kerry? Yes indeed!

Posted by: Dems fightin words at November 11, 2004 09:06 PM

NPR has become another Right leaning network.

Posted by: KevinK at November 11, 2004 09:07 PM

Byrne would make a good first period college professor... You could catch up on your sleep

Posted by: Fred at November 11, 2004 09:07 PM

This is the dumbest ad! The Mississippi is BLUE dumb ass! Have a look.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/images/counties-2004.gif

God I'm so sick of these F the south people. How is this culturally ignorant supposed to help us get ahead of the neocons? It WON'T help. It will destroy everything.

I guess people just need to feel superior.

Posted by: Meg at November 11, 2004 09:07 PM

Douchebag Roundup!

"This.... is CNN"

Posted by: Fishgrease at November 11, 2004 09:07 PM

Question,

If Bush voters were under represented in the exit polls and that's why they were so wrong. . .then how did "Moral Values" become the number one issue in the election according to the same exit polls?

The very issue conservatives are patting themselves on the back about may be the proof that the polls were not wrong, something else was.

Time to start asking tougher questions on this issue.

Roy in Phoenix

Posted by: Plisko at November 11, 2004 09:08 PM

Conspiracy theorists don't seem too bad, after that segment.

Posted by: Dems fightin words at November 11, 2004 09:08 PM

David Byrne is a musician, people, not a political spokesmen or an on-air personality.

I think it was really cool that he was on!

Wow, in other news, Janeane just said Douche Bag again!!
I thought she wasn't going to say that anymore, Wow, I'm glad she's bringing the sassy ways back again! Right ON!!!!

Posted by: LeeP at November 11, 2004 09:08 PM

Pezwaldo...yes, it falls under at least one of those descriptions.

Posted by: Liz at November 11, 2004 09:08 PM

haha ha fishin'

Posted by: cate at November 11, 2004 09:09 PM

shouldn't this blog be a chat program? that's the way people are using it. are you there Sam? Please put some chat software in this puppy, blogs can't handle the traffic!

Posted by: alloowishus at November 11, 2004 09:10 PM

I can think of one other way. (kah...wink)

Posted by: rustle of luv at November 11, 2004 09:10 PM

"Small," tactical, battlefield nukes...the shape of Armageddon to come.

Posted by: Hairy Eyeball at November 11, 2004 09:10 PM

Bush, Blair to Discuss Life After Arafat
Thu Nov 11, 2004 09:03 PM ET
By Peter Graff

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush is expected to give an outline of his vision for a Middle East without Yasser Arafat on Friday, with his most loyal ally Tony Blair by his side.

The British Prime Minister arrived in Washington late on Thursday and dined with the president, becoming the first world leader to congratulate Bush in person on his reelection last week.

Their joint press conference will give Bush his first opportunity to speak at length in public about his plans for Middle East diplomacy since the death of the veteran Palestinian leader in France.

Reuters.com

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 09:10 PM

Fishinable :)

Posted by: Emelius Browne at November 11, 2004 09:10 PM

Barbarians at the gate. The red xians want nukes to punish evildoers, and keep those who don't believe in the Bible at bay.

Posted by: preFasc Consultant at November 11, 2004 09:10 PM

Liz, I guess I shouldn't complain since it is quite balmy these days.

Posted by: pezwaldo at November 11, 2004 09:10 PM

Janeane taliking physics?

I'm so turned on right now!

Posted by: terry wilke at November 11, 2004 09:11 PM

gone fission

Posted by: SanderHicksIsHot at November 11, 2004 09:11 PM

Colin has a great voice.

Posted by: Liz at November 11, 2004 09:11 PM

shouldn't this blog be a chat program? that's the way people are using it. are you there Sam? Please put some chat software in this puppy, blogs can't handle the traffic!

Posted by: alloowishus at November 11, 2004 09:10 PM

ohh no i like the blog format. chats move too quickly. and people are more likely to talk crap.

(i know i talk alot of crap but imagine EVERYONE doing it at once. )

Posted by: cate at November 11, 2004 09:11 PM

Yes, science will end the world quite nicely, praise
god!

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 09:11 PM

2pacalypse ! Haha!!!

Some christians believe in God and the Bomb.

Rastafarians, on the other hand, believe in God and the Bong.

Hahaha!!!!

Posted by: LeeP at November 11, 2004 09:11 PM

They really don't have a morals issue, they have a "I'm more moral than you" issue.

Posted by: KevinK at November 11, 2004 09:12 PM

If we put 200 billion dollars into fusion research... we wouldn't NEED to invade ANYONE for their oil.

We would be well on our way to a safe, clean way to power the hydrogen economy.

Posted by: Fishgrease at November 11, 2004 09:12 PM

Hey Guys,

Love your show, I listen to you on my way home from work everyday. You know my mom, Flo, in Ft. Lauderdale, FL. She's called you many times. She's great, but she can be a bit boisterous at times Mom still hasn't gotten a computer yet. She says y'all razzed her about that. Anyway, I'm her daughter and I need your help big-time...

We've all been talking a lot about what we can do to take charge as citizens and make a statement. Here is one organization, headed up by myself and other concerned citizens:

On January 20, 2005 (Inauguration Day), our grassroots, non-profit organization (Orlando) will call into action a national boycott of gasoline in the United States of America. We are urging millions of citizens to participate in our effort to demand and promote alternative energy sources. Citizens of this great country are frustrated, not only by the high cost of gasoline, but also by the failure of our representatives in Congress who speak of pursuing alternative energy sources, but never act on their promises.
Please help us out... Lets make a difference... Lets act and prepare to boycott gas on G.W.'s big day.

Email:
citizenstakecharge@yahoo.com

Thanks,
Beth

Posted by: Elizabeth at November 11, 2004 09:12 PM

Janeane would like to put a fundie under a microscope and poke at it.

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 09:12 PM

oooo... tricky third hour.

keep checkin, nothin'!

Dang.

well, I mock them ALL!

except J.

she's right!

Posted by: rustle of luv at November 11, 2004 09:12 PM

The end of days is about making as big a mess as possible so that Santa-God will come back and make things great for the d!ckheads who cause all the problems in the first place. Bwahahahahahaaha.

I'm moving to New Zealand...it's in the Southern hemisphere.

Posted by: Hairy Eyeball at November 11, 2004 09:13 PM

Mr Bush has Jesus in his heart. All that science stuff is immaterial. Mr Bush is born again and so all Janeane's logical rationalities are just not relevant....

....yesterday I was campaigning said the Devil, today I got your vote.

Posted by: CaLuM at November 11, 2004 09:13 PM

I'll end this rant with, why is it the only people Al ever thanks are the miliatry. "Thank you for your service." He's had on diplomats, ambassadors, he's had on people who were in the Peace Corp. Go down the list, he's even had on a president he thinks was amazing. But the only one that gets "thank you for your service" is the military.
And though I love Unfiltered, how come every Tuesday we get "ask a vet" but we don't get a segment on "ask a peace advocate"?Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at November 11, 2004 08:54 PM
So my messages was mixed with Jake's message
My message was that I thought it was a good idea that we have a peace advocate to share his her thoughts to balance the soldier's story.
False balance:
Every newspaper has a business page or section; none have
a labor page or section

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at November 11, 2004 09:13 PM

The Evangelical virgins will look like a Girls Gone Wild video.

Posted by: KevinK at November 11, 2004 09:13 PM

Obviously, since the Theory of Special Relativity brought about nuclear detonation, it doesn't really exsist...Just like Trolls.

Posted by: DabidosanDD at November 11, 2004 09:13 PM

Cate...LOL...I like this format mostly. It keeps us all in the same place, sometimes it's hard to find people on Randi's blog.

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 09:13 PM

This "honest" question strikes me as a bit facetious. Clearly there's science and there's science. Science that gives right thinking xian nations power and technology is fine. Science which contradicts the Bible is bad. If a scientist gives you a TV or a gun, you say "cool, how do I work this in to my bible-lovin' lifestyle". If a scientist gives you evolution, you say "back demon".

Posted by: preFasc Consultant at November 11, 2004 09:13 PM

Your odds of being killed by the actions of some greedy corporation are far higher than your odds of being killed by a terrorist

Posted by: Veracious at November 11, 2004 09:13 PM

The Christian Right's virgins look like their sisters...or their farm animals.

Posted by: Sandie in The OC at November 11, 2004 09:13 PM

Mr Bush has Jesus in his heart. All that science stuff is immaterial. Mr Bush is born again and so all Janeane's logical rationalities are just not relevant....

....yesterday I was campaigning said the Devil, today I got your vote.

Posted by: CaLuM at November 11, 2004 09:14 PM

Wheres hour three?

Posted by: jimhmcnair at November 11, 2004 09:14 PM

Sorry, that last one to cate was me. somethings screwy with my browser.

Posted by: Liz at November 11, 2004 09:14 PM

Sams right. There is no rational in faith.

Posted by: KevinK at November 11, 2004 09:14 PM

.......

They only attack on PARTICULAR science that directly contradict literal contradiction of biblical content.

-evolution. (man is not created by God)
-embryonic research (human soul is created upon conception)

God doesn't write anything about atomic bomb, so who cares.

Posted by: wanda at November 11, 2004 09:14 PM

Science is not their religion. You see science as a book you can open to get the truth. They already have something like that. For them science is something else - a source of guns and teevees.

Posted by: preFasc Consultant at November 11, 2004 09:14 PM

Cate...LOL...I like this format mostly. It keeps us all in the same place, sometimes it's hard to find people on Randi's blog.

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 09:13 PM

hehe cool. i agree, liz

Posted by: cate at November 11, 2004 09:14 PM

Frist Says Filibusters of Bush Nominees Must End
Thu Nov 11, 2004 08:44 PM ET
By Thomas Ferraro

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, who has long favored a change in Senate rules, said on Thursday "one way or another" procedural roadblocks against federal judicial nominees must end.

Frist noted that Senate Democrats have already used so-called filibusters to deny confirmation votes on 10 of President Bush's appeals court nominees.

"The Senate cannot allow the filibuster of circuit court nominees to continue," Frist said in a speech for delivery to The Federalist Society, a conservative group.

reuters.com

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 09:15 PM

(all exasperated)
What part of Jesus don't you get!

That's very hahahahahahahaha

well, that's me. I like to laff.

cause it's a little sad too

Posted by: rustle of luv at November 11, 2004 09:15 PM

I think Janeane's falling victim to her own criticism of Sam...do you notice how she pauses just before she says 'nuclear'?

Ironic, no?

Posted by: pezwaldo at November 11, 2004 09:15 PM

SEDER!

How about some clean sheets?

Posted by: Lilith of the gypsies at November 11, 2004 09:15 PM

If we put 200 billion dollars into fusion research... we wouldn't NEED to invade ANYONE for their oil.

We would be well on our way to a safe, clean way to power the hydrogen economy.

Posted by: Fishgrease at November 11, 2004 09:12 PM
......................................................................................
worth repeating.

Posted by: Becca at November 11, 2004 09:15 PM

I heard from the creators of Arlington West (last Friday) that the actual number of soldiers that have died because of Iraq is closer to 3,500 because they don't count you as a war casuality if you die of some wound AFTER you have left Iraq. I'm still tracking down the source of that does anyone have a link?

Thanks!

Posted by: spocko at November 11, 2004 09:15 PM

sad that they don't get it, my sista.

Posted by: rustle of luv at November 11, 2004 09:16 PM

Oh who was it that said?

It's easy to be born again when you never grew up in the first place.

===

This Sbox crap is starting up again. Grrrr...

Posted by: Meg at November 11, 2004 09:16 PM

Frist Says Rational Thought and Insightful Analysis Must End
Thu Nov 11, 2004 08:44 PM ET
By Thomas Ferraro

Posted by: Sandie in The OC at November 11, 2004 09:16 PM

To hell with the death freaks.

Posted by: Ajax at November 11, 2004 09:16 PM

The Christian Right's virgins look like their sisters...or their farm animals.

Posted by: Sandie in The OC at November 11, 2004 09:13 PM

Hey, I used to be one of those Rightwing virgins, and I don't look like everyone's sister or a FARM ANIMAL. I'm adorable.

Posted by: Liz at November 11, 2004 09:16 PM

This is all good stuff,
but keep in mind,
you're putting way too much thought into it.

Praise God!

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 09:16 PM

Jeez. This "development" argument is stupid in the backward areas. These people were told this is the way and that's what they believe. You can label that as a traumatic event or simply as "upbringing".

Posted by: preFasc Consultant at November 11, 2004 09:16 PM

If we put 200 billion dollars into fusion research... we wouldn't NEED to invade ANYONE for their oil.

We would be well on our way to a safe, clean way to power the hydrogen economy.

Posted by: Fishgrease at November 11, 2004 09:12 PM
......................................................................................
worth repeating.

Posted by: Becca at November 11, 2004 09:17 PM

It all comes down to whether one believes in an overbearing father or a nurturing father.

Father, in their minds, equals God.

Posted by: Hairy Eyeball at November 11, 2004 09:17 PM

I do, I do!

sbox delay.

...I respect her!

Posted by: rustle of luv at November 11, 2004 09:17 PM

Janeane hates children. She has her dogs. She's happy with that.

Posted by: English Opium Eater at November 11, 2004 08:59 PM

No, I don't think that's true. I'm told she loves her nieces and nephews.
I believe she's afraid of birth defects because of her family's Republican gene pool.

Posted by: Rusty at November 11, 2004 09:18 PM

Janeane, you're shouting too much, very hard on the ears.

Posted by: Jon at November 11, 2004 09:18 PM

Yeah... we treat Janeany Beany like a witto girl!

Posted by: Fishgrease at November 11, 2004 09:18 PM

"The Evangelical virgins will look like a Girls Gone Wild video.

Posted by: KevinK at November 11, 2004 09:13 PM"

A bunch of drunks ??

Posted by: Fred at November 11, 2004 09:18 PM

I'm moving to New Zealand...it's in the Southern hemisphere.

Posted by: Hairy Eyeball at November
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Be careful what you wish for.
NZ has a very right wing govt. which does not respect individuals or human rights.

Posted by: CaLuM at November 11, 2004 09:18 PM

JANEANE, YOU ARE BRILLIANT.

*****

i DON'T KNOW HOW YOU PUT UP WITH HIS UHHH-SAYING-ASS....

Posted by: SAMSAYSUHHHHH at November 11, 2004 09:18 PM

The third hour blog... mocks ME!

Posted by: rustle of luv at November 11, 2004 09:19 PM

Liz...its not you...its their opinion of what you should look like...:)

Some like the thought of their sister...some like the thought of Babe.

Posted by: Sandie in The OC at November 11, 2004 09:19 PM

Try this...faith in reason

Posted by: Nobody at November 11, 2004 09:19 PM

SAM sometimes treats JANEANE like that on the air too.

Posted by: ameobamis at November 11, 2004 09:19 PM

My cat says hi. I've been feeding him uranium, and he is highly advanced now. He's watching French films now.

There is no logic to the world. You need to reach their emotions.

Posted by: English Opium Eater at November 11, 2004 09:19 PM

Bible thumpers believe they are being conscientious by believing the Bible and those without it are lost. You think the same thing about science. Your sense of entitlement to "think whatever you want" is seen by these backward tribal people as the breaking of a taboo - something outragous.

Posted by: preFasc Consultant at November 11, 2004 09:19 PM

Falwell announces new coalition to build on evangelical momentum

http://www.kron.com/Global/story.asp?S=2544851

Posted by: pablo at November 11, 2004 09:19 PM

This talk about evangelicals makes me mad about the exit polls for the election all over again.

If Bush voters were under represented in the exit polls and that's why they were so wrong. . .then how did "Moral Values" become the number one issue in the election according to the same exit polls?

The very issue conservatives are patting themselves on the back about may be the proof that the polls were not wrong, something else was.

Personally I think they polled TOO DAMN MANY Bush supporters.

Time to start asking tougher questions on this issue.

Posted by: Plisko at November 11, 2004 09:19 PM

People take science for granted. Take for instance the common flush toilet. This invention has saved the human race from countless numbers of plagues. Yet no one prays to this work of modern ingenuity unless they've downed a few too many Jack Daniels.

Posted by: Dems fightin words at November 11, 2004 09:20 PM

Religion w/o Science is Superstition; Science w/o Religion is Materialism. True Religion is in harmony with science and religion.

The World's Religions are the same in essence.

Fundamentalism hurts.

Posted by: PEACE IN at November 11, 2004 09:20 PM

Janeane dishes it out too. They bicker. It's funny most of the time. Lou needs to be on the banner and learn to speak though.

Posted by: Liz at November 11, 2004 09:20 PM

Sammer, Janeane must drive you fucking nuts. She's like the worst case scenerio methhead girlfriend who constantly talks out of her ass and embarrasses everyone around her. (And brings into question what the fuck you're thinking in the first place)

Posted by: Me, Myself and I at November 11, 2004 09:20 PM

Liz...its not you...its their opinion of what you should look like...:)

Some like the thought of their sister...some like the thought of Babe.

Posted by: Sandie in The OC at November 11, 2004 09:20 PM

Where o'where

is my Hour three??

O'where o'where can it be?????

Posted by: at November 11, 2004 09:20 PM

End Of Days to Prince's 1999

I was prayin when I wrote this
Save me if my Jebus dies
But when I was reborn this mornin'
An angel was on my side
The heavens open up
And Paul was standing there
Speaking from the books
telling me that I was there

CHORUS
say say two thousand zero zero party over,
oops better pray
So tonight I'm gonna party like it's end of days

Posted by: Emelius Browne at November 11, 2004 09:20 PM

Posted by: preFasc Consultant at November 11, 2004 09:21 PM

No, I don't think that's true. I'm told she loves her nieces and nephews.
I believe she's afraid of birth defects because of her family's Republican gene pool.

Posted by: Rusty at November 11, 2004 09:18 PM

If she wanted kids, she'd have 'em. It's not like she can't find a mate.

I know plenty of women who don't want kids, so they work their mommy jones out with dogs or cats.

Posted by: KevinK at November 11, 2004 09:21 PM

SEDER!
How about some clean sheets?
Posted by: Lilith of the gypsies at November 11, 2004 09:15 PM
...........................................................................
if that is a vote to play some Descendents ...i second the vote.

Posted by: Becca at November 11, 2004 09:21 PM

Sam & Janeane

. . . in the boxing ring.

. . . to raise money for our favorite lefty causes -- and relieve that anger and tension in the process.

Posted by: Pandemia at November 11, 2004 09:22 PM

CIA Critic of U.S. War on Terror Resigns

Thu Nov 11, 5:59 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A CIA (news - web sites) analyst who wrote a book that criticized the U.S. war on terror has resigned from the spy agency after it effectively banned him from publicly discussing his views, his publicist said on Thursday.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=564&ncid=564&e=7&u=/nm/20041111/ts_nm/security_cia_dc

Posted by: voteSTOLEN at November 11, 2004 09:22 PM

Be careful what you wish for.
NZ has a very right wing govt. which does not respect individuals or human rights.

Posted by: CaLuM at November 11, 2004 09:18 PM

are you sure? i know australia is moving rapidly to the extreme right but i thought nz was doing just fine

Posted by: cate at November 11, 2004 09:22 PM

The religeous right is perfect for carl rove/bush to control. people that are very religeous are natural followers they will follow blindly no matter what the facts are.
This is why in the face of all the Bush lies and hypocracy they will never admit they are wrong.
thier base is full of this sheepish psychology.

you cant even educate them.

Posted by: Greg Long at November 11, 2004 09:22 PM

Falwell announces new coalition to build on evangelical momentum

http://www.kron.com/Global/story.asp?S=2544851

Posted by: pablo at November 11, 2004 09:19 PM

Keep in mind this is the same man who said 9/11 was God's way of punishing us, women are a minority and Tinky Winky the Teletubbie was a homosexually driven character. He is a zagnut.

Posted by: PatLovesJaneane at November 11, 2004 09:22 PM

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Posted by: Elizabeth at November 11, 2004 09:23 PM

by the way, if we're choosing up sides, I choose Janeane.

No, sorry sammy. I'm on Janeane's side, that's that.

Deal with it!

(winkington)

Posted by: rustle of luv at November 11, 2004 09:23 PM

Sam says something very rarely on the air which might be considered condescending or rude to Janeane. Often Janeane gets het up and then there are minutes (or hours!) of Janeane dumping on Sam, guests, everyone else. Make sure to bring that up in your therapy session.

Posted by: preFasc Consultant at November 11, 2004 09:23 PM

Hey, I used to be one of those Rightwing virgins, and I don't look like everyone's sister or a FARM ANIMAL. I'm adorable.

Posted by: Liz at November 11, 2004 09:16 PM

That's great, and I don't doubt it. But what did you look like before the exorcism?

Posted by: Rusty at November 11, 2004 09:23 PM

if that is a vote to play some Descendents ...i second the vote.

Posted by: Becca at November 11, 2004 09:21 PM
------------------------

Thank god I am not the only one who thinks of that song also. :)

Posted by: Emelius Browne at November 11, 2004 09:23 PM

Democrats Cry Foul, Urge Vote Inquiry

By WILLIAM MARCH wmarch@tampatrib.com

Dubious Democrats

Arthur Pinner, Dixie County Democratic chairman, took the argument further. He voted personally for Bush, he said, ``on account of his morals.''

Kerry ``was a liberal way down the road; he believed in same-sex marriage and abortion,'' Pinner said. ``It came out in all the magazines.''

Pinner couldn't name which magazines reported that - in fact, Kerry opposes gay marriage - before clarifying that his source wasn't a magazine.

``Pamphlets that was passed out in church,'' he said. He wasn't sure whom the pamphlets came from, but said, ``I believed them enough so I didn't vote for him.''

Jenny Nash, spokeswoman for the Florida Division of Elections, said the allegations of fraud are wrong.

``These groups prior to the election were trying to plant doubt in voters' minds pertaining to touch screens,'' and they've switched to optical- scan machines, she said. ``If you look at the statistical history, the voting results were similar to past elections.''

....churches should not be allowed to play politics esp. if they have non-profit status. Click my name for link to Tampa Tribune article.

Posted by: Zurg at November 11, 2004 09:23 PM

The best thing for the Democrats is Jerry Falwell on TV...every night...open forum.

That will scare the shit out of 78% of America.

Posted by: Sandie in The OC at November 11, 2004 09:23 PM

New Zealand is not perfect, but they do have a representational government where every group gets a voice. They also don't allow nukes near them...much to the chagrin of the U.S.

Posted by: Hairy Eyeball at November 11, 2004 09:24 PM

~~~ how did "Moral Values" become the number one issue in the election according to the same exit polls? ~~~

Moral Values was picked as most important by 22% of the people polled. A little better than 1/5th of the population.

So they get to fucking run everything now?

Posted by: Fishgrease at November 11, 2004 09:24 PM

Did I miss something? Is there an hour three?

Posted by: xrayman at November 11, 2004 09:24 PM

Religion w/o Science is Superstition; Science w/o Religion is Materialism. True Religion is in harmony with science and reason.

The World's Religions are the same in essence. All the Religions are One.

Fundamentalism hurts.

Posted by: PEACE IN at November 11, 2004 09:24 PM

Bush, Blair to Discuss Life After Arafat
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Will Noah come down from the mountain after all?

Posted by: CaLuM at November 11, 2004 09:24 PM

you cant even educate them.

Posted by: Greg Long at November 11, 2004 09:22 PM

Sorry greg, going to have to disagree with you there. I was raised to be a right wing neocon fundamentalist...etc, and I've educated myself, changed, grown, morphed...and I'm nothing like that now. So...THEY can be educated. Just like we can learn to cut people some slack and give them some time to evolve.

Posted by: Liz at November 11, 2004 09:25 PM

Bible thumpers believe they are being conscientious by believing the Bible and those without it are lost. You think the same thing about science.

Posted by: preFasc Consultant at November 11, 2004 09:21 PM

If 100 people read a science book they'd all pretty much agree on what the book said. If 100 people read the bible you'd get 100 different meanings.

That's why science and religion are NOT alike.

Posted by: KevinK at November 11, 2004 09:25 PM

Gonzales looks like a moron!!

Posted by: ameobamis at November 11, 2004 09:26 PM

Bush, Blair to Discuss Life After Arafat
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Will Noah come down from the mountain after all?
**********
do you get the feeling that when Blair asked Bush about his thoughts on Arafat...that Bush said he doesn't subscribe to all of that diet "crap"?

Posted by: Sandie in The OC at November 11, 2004 09:26 PM