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October 29, 2004

hour three - Friday

Catherine Herold, one of 976 Summit County, Ohio voters whom the state GOP tried to cheat out of their votes.

Bill Scher, Executive Editor of the blog Liberal Oasis.

Jack Hitt, contributor to The New York Times Magazine, Harper's Magazine, and contributor to This American Life.

Listen to Jack's This American Life piece on voter suppression here.

*** THREE DAYS LEFT ***

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO EASILY. JOHN KERRY IS GOING TO NEED YOUR HELP TO KICK THEM OUT. REMEMBER: THEY CAN'T BE PUNISHED IF THEY'RE STILL IN POWER. DO WHATEVER YOU CAN THIS WEEKEND THE CHANGE THIS COUNTRY:

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General:

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Volunteer with the Kerry Edwards campaign here.

Help win back Congress -- volunteer with the DCCC.

Take a DCCC road trip for a new Democratic Majority.

Get involved at your school, at Democracy on the Quad.

And a great general Guide to Regime Change, and what you can do to help it along.

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frost?

Posted by: pezwaldo at October 29, 2004 09:02 PM

SAM, recall the first night you had Carmine on and I said he was a waste of time?

I said what's next Al Franken's doorman and the next night you had YOUR doorman on?

Is it too late?

Posted by: Dutch Masters at October 29, 2004 09:02 PM

Welcome to hour 3

Posted by: Bushleague at October 29, 2004 09:03 PM

"Your income under the Bush or Kerry tax plan"

"President Bush wants to make his tax cuts for all income levels made permanent, but Sen. John Kerry wants to repeal rate cuts for the wealthiest Americans. Check the chart below to see how different household incomes fare under a Bush or a Kerry tax scenario. (Estimates assume upper-income households have combination of wage and investment income.)"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6339017/

Posted by: Nobody at October 29, 2004 09:03 PM

frost, lol

Posted by: Anne Marie at October 29, 2004 09:03 PM

hour 3!

Posted by: Liz at October 29, 2004 09:03 PM

I'd Just Like To Say Hello To My Uncle!

Posted by: Billy Mumphrey at October 29, 2004 09:03 PM

Carmine is a waste of time and a real downer on any Friday.. let alone the one before the election... don't give these kinds of people the time of day... when you do you are giving them too much attention and control over the agenda... don't you think it's high time we just leave them behind and get it done? Instead of trying to persuade them to do it our way.

NO MORE CARMINE! PEOPLE ARE TUNING OUT!

Posted by: Catharine at October 29, 2004 09:03 PM

Undecideds of the world unite!!!

Posted by: Mel at October 29, 2004 09:03 PM

Election night is going to be tough...I wish the Daily Show and AAR would do some split screen broadcasting. I don't know who to pick.

Posted by: Bushleague at October 29, 2004 09:04 PM

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/printer_081504E.shtml

In contrast, the report showed that households in the middle 20 percent, with incomes averaging $57,000 per year, will receive an average cut of $1,090 while their share of the tax burden would move to 10.5 percent from 10.4 percent.

The CBO report said about two-thirds of the benefits from the cuts went to households in the top 20 percent, with an average income of $203,740.

People with earnings in the lowest 20 percent, which averaged $16,620, saw their effective tax rate fall to 5.2 percent from 6.7 percent, the CBO said. But Democrats said that meant their average tax cut was only $250.

Posted by: wanda at October 29, 2004 09:04 PM

Reversing the tax cuts will provide far more than enough to pay for these and other programs

Just look at the cost of the tax cuts so far

Additionally look at where Clinton got us in just 8 years

290.4 million Deficit under bush 1
To a 245 surplus under Clinton

Posted by: terry wilke at October 29, 2004 09:04 PM

The racist Zionist terrorist Stever Emerson is appearing on MSNBC right now.

I guess a terrorist would be an "expert".

Posted by: Dr Econ at October 29, 2004 09:04 PM

Send Carmine to look for Bin Laden!

Posted by: K.Y.B. at October 29, 2004 09:04 PM

Carmine is so selfish and stupid he does not deserve to be heard. He is a waste of yours and ours time. He is being stubborn to get attention.

Posted by: aka MAT at October 29, 2004 09:05 PM

OK I did some number crunching, I'm going to chime in late with 318/220 Kerry

Kerry picks up:

4 in CO
10 in WI
20 in OH
21 in PA
27 in FL
and the rest of the blue states
good for 236

Posted by: terry wilke at October 29, 2004 08:40 PM
on the money

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at October 29, 2004 09:05 PM

Right Mel, they have nothing to lose but their chains.

Posted by: frngy at October 29, 2004 09:05 PM

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Carmine won't flip....

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Sam Sam Sam

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If you have time...

Thank Carmine for us Trolls..

For being on the show!!

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Posted by: War Dog at October 29, 2004 09:05 PM

I agree with Catherine. This Carmine segment is bringing us down. People who refuse to listen to reason are depressing.

Posted by: Mel at October 29, 2004 09:05 PM

Whats so bad about that?

Posted by: Nik E Poo at October 29, 2004 08:58 PM
I don't want to live in a box when I am in my 60's!

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:01 PM

You missed it! ... let me rephrase ... severely fucked? ... sounds kinky!

Posted by: Nik E Poo at October 29, 2004 09:05 PM

Janeane. I love you, but I'm afraid that we're gonna have to end things due to your dad.

It's not you. It's not me. It's him.

On another note...

Does anyone think the lesbian marriage commercial is really hot?

Posted by: sowkrdan at October 29, 2004 09:06 PM

You missed it! ... let me rephrase ... severely fucked? ... sounds kinky!

Posted by: Nik E Poo at October 29, 2004 09:05 PM

LOL

Posted by: Liz at October 29, 2004 09:06 PM

the post above should read billion Deficit

anyway Clinton gave us a 526 billion turn around in just 8 years

Posted by: terry wilke at October 29, 2004 09:06 PM

When Janeane brings up his Christianity, that really strikes at the core of his "beliefs" and the hypocrisy and excuses that surround them. That's harsh, I know...but come on, Carmine. Jesus did more than get crucified by the powers-that-be. He was a social radical. He had nothing in common with Republicans (and not very much in common with the Democrats, for that matter).

Posted by: pruil at October 29, 2004 09:06 PM

Oct. 29, 2004. 12:01 PM
Kerry blasts Bush over Halliburton probe
CALVIN WOODWARD AND TOM RAUM
ASSOCIATED PRESS

WASHINGTON — After days of making hay over lost Iraqi explosives, the Democratic ticket seized today on an expanding FBI probe of Halliburton as evidence the Bush administration gives special favours to special interests. President Bush was sharing the stage with a politician from Hollywood.

"We need a president and a vice-president of the United States who consistently stand up for the interests of the American people, and that's not what we're seeing right now," Democratic running mate John Edwards said on CBS this morning.

Edwards was more pointed last night when he told 3,000 people at a Davenport, Iowa, rally, "You cannot stand with Halliburton, big oil companies and the Saudi royal family and still stand up for the American people."

Bush turned to a pair of American heroes for affirmation of his re-election bid. Retired Gen. Tommy Franks, who oversaw the combat in Afghanistan and Iraq, saluted his old boss last night. Bush also was getting the endorsement of freshly minted World Series champion pitcher Curt Schilling. The Boston Red Sox player had planned to appear today with Bush, but his doctors advised him not to travel because of his injured ankle, Bush aides said.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_PrintFriendly&c=Article&cid=1099043155794&call_pageid=968332188854

Posted by: tonid at October 29, 2004 09:06 PM

Janeane, just be greatful Carmine will be voting for Bush in Texas, where it won't count for anything.

Under our travesty of an electoral system the only presidential votes that really count are in the swing states (or in the worst case, the Supreme Court).

Posted by: nmark in Toledo at October 29, 2004 09:07 PM

Where does the 2 Trillion transition money come from?

Where does the investment money come from?

How much can a middle or low income person set aside as the total health care burden (unchecked) falls on his/her shoulders?

Poor Carmine is an example of your brain on Faux News.

Posted by: Jim at October 29, 2004 09:07 PM

If you want to know how the repugs will take on social security just take a look at the prescription drug plan. I know the AARP ain't exactly thrilled with it. I understand you can buy cheaper drugs over the internet than with the gov't discount cards.

Posted by: AmIwrong? at October 29, 2004 09:07 PM

http://www.thedubyareport.com/top10taxcut.html

Top 10 Lies about the Tax Cut

2. The Bush tax plan won't give 40% of its benefits to the richest 1 percent of the population, as calculated by the Citizens for Tax Justice in 1999, but only 22%, as calculated by the Joint Tax Committee of Congress.
The JTC's calculation only went through 2005, before many of the upper income tax cuts are completely phased in. And it ignored the feature that most benefits the wealthiest -- the repeal of the estate tax.

Posted by: wanda at October 29, 2004 09:07 PM

Janeane, your dad isn't "his brothers keeper" is he?

Posted by: Graycat at October 29, 2004 09:07 PM

You missed it! ... let me rephrase ... severely fucked? ... sounds kinky!

Posted by: Nik E Poo at October 29, 2004 09:05 PM

I am trying really hard not to call you an idiot! I still love you .. but ... well.. drop it!

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:07 PM

Did Carmine just show a disrgard for social programs?
That's his real thing.
His counter part Mark Luther almost slipped on the subject of poorly filled out voter registrations, as he started to say, "some think you should know how to??? in order to vote.

Posted by: greg at October 29, 2004 09:07 PM

People who refuse to listen to reason are depressing.
Posted by: Mel at October 29, 2004 09:05 PM

Unless they are wearing a sexy witch outfit. Cause thats totally hot!

Posted by: Nik E Poo at October 29, 2004 09:07 PM

sorry Jeanine but Carmine needs to be slapped upside the head. He is in such denial its pathetic. but all republicans are....

Posted by: katchaya at October 29, 2004 09:07 PM

Jeanine, can the Carmine bit. No matter how many facts you present to him, he will only believe what he wants to believe. Let him find a guest spot on Hannity.

Posted by: frngy at October 29, 2004 09:07 PM

Janeane, your dad isn't "his brothers keeper" is he?

Posted by: Graycat at October 29, 2004 09:08 PM

CAN U SAY DEPRESSION, CARMINE

Yeah Bad Carmine, Let's go back to 1929 days with Bush and Cheney.

Trust Bush and Cheney and the worst greediest congress in history to reform SSN.

They can't see staight for the dollar signs in their eyes. The program would suck worse than capitalist health care.

Posted by: pablo at October 29, 2004 09:08 PM

Anyone involved with voter surpression should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law!

Posted by: BushSucks at October 29, 2004 09:08 PM

YOUR DADDY IS AN IDIOT!!! AMERICAN'S DIE EVERYDAY AND HE'S TALKING ABOUT SOCUAIL SECURITY NUMBERS?? HOW DARE HE!!!
SUPRESS HIM!!!
PUT HIM IN A LOCK BOX!!!

IF BUSH HAD A PLAN... WHY HASN'T HE DONE IT YET... HE'S HAD 4 BLOODY YEARS!!!
I'VE HAD IT WITH PEOPLE LIKE THIS!! JUST DIE!!!
DIE!!
DIE!!
DIE!!
BEFORE ELECTION DAY!!
PLEASE!!!
AND TAKE YOUR STUPID IDEAS AND BIGOTRY WITH YOU WHEN YOU GO!!!!

SORRY MRS. HOSTESS, BUT I HAD TO GO THERE!!!
YOUR DAD IS BRAIN DEAD!! SO IT WOULD BE A MERCY KILLING!!!

I CAN SAY ALL OF THIS BECAUSE MY DAD IS A BIG OL' SOUTHERN BAPTIST BUSH VOTING REPUBLICAN FEDERAL AGENT...

HOWEVER...

BECAUSE OF MY ENDLESS PROOF OF BUSH LIES...
BECUASE HE'S SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT WHEN THE CANDIDATE IS BAD FOR OUR COUNTRY AND THE WORLD AS BUSH IS... YOU BREAK PARTY LINES AND VOTE FOR THE BETTER CANDIDATE... AS HE TAUGHT ME TO DO... HE IS DOING...

MY DADDY KNOWS THIS ELECTION IS NO LONGER EVEN ABOUT DEMOCRAT VS REPUBLICAN... THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT REMOVING PEOPLE WHO ARE BAD FOR OUR COUNTRY FROM OFFICE SO THEY CAN NO LONGER HARM OUR PEOPLE OUR COUNTRY AND THE WORLD!!!

MY DADDY IS VOTING FOR JOHN KERRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: TERRA at October 29, 2004 09:08 PM

Undecideds of the world unite!!!

Posted by: Mel at October 29, 2004 09:03 PM

PREACH IT BROTHER!!!! PREACH IT!!!

Posted by: Oy Vey! at October 29, 2004 09:08 PM

Oh give up on Carmine.. he likes the attention too much... he is just going to insult us and this woman and say her story is either a lie or an isolated incidence... PLEASE DON'T LET CARMINE TALK. I ALREADY KNOW HE'S A STUBBORN OLD WHATEVER.

Posted by: Catharine at October 29, 2004 09:08 PM

MSNBC Presidential Election poll... they rezero it every day...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6092749/

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 29, 2004 09:09 PM

Our problems all began when we
allowed dumb asses like Carmine,
Illegal War Dog and Rob Greenpeace
to voice their bullshit opinions
and we didn't call them bullshit.

Posted by: Ajax at October 29, 2004 09:09 PM

BUSEY!!!

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I'm hoping to die before retirement age - otherwise I am severely fucked!

Posted by: Wil at October 29, 2004 08:51 PM
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...SING IT SISTER! You're preaching to the choir...by the time I get to that age (20 more years or so) a cardboard box will be a luxury...since the sky will be scorched from the Gaia effect (how long do you think the earth's gonna take this shite that businesses are doing to her before she starts fighting back?)...they'll be charging our asses to breathe! If I don't strike it rich panning for gold (with one of them 49er coal miner hats)...I'm toast too!!!

Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 29, 2004 09:09 PM

I like to have a hard penis in my anus. And, as a Republican gay, I have better and more explosive orgasms when my boy friend pumps me because I feel like I'm getting over on you lib weenies! I can be a practicing fascist by day and a secret gay hedonist "liberal" at night! You are all jealous of me.

Posted by: Rod Greenbaum at October 29, 2004 09:09 PM

And it's not a tax increase it's reversing a regressive tax cut

The super wealthy pay just under 17%, that's less than the working poor and about half of what I pay

Posted by: terry wilke at October 29, 2004 09:09 PM

This is sweet! A Republican Precint Chair in Fort Bend County (which is Tom Delay's backyard) just endorsed Richard Morrison.

To read the endorsement:
http://www.morrisonfor22.com/news/fortbendstar.php

Posted by: LeftistIndependent at October 29, 2004 09:09 PM

I'm Drowning

Posted by: DiverDan at October 29, 2004 09:09 PM

Janeane is way smarter than her dad, hands down.

Posted by: BushSucks at October 29, 2004 09:09 PM

Rob Greenbaum isn't that the gay ex marine who likes Christian Rock. Why don't you like Ozzy, he likes you!

Posted by: Aleister Crowley at October 29, 2004 09:10 PM

FUCKING CARMINe

* The overwhelming majority of federal income taxes are paid by the very highest income earners. The top 1% of income earners pays 31.6% of all income taxes, the top 5% pays 51.4%, the top 10% pays 63.5%, and the top 20% of income earners pays 78.4% of all federal income taxes. The bottom four-fifths of income earners pay just over one-fifth of all federal income taxes.

READ THIS!!! CBO report comment.
http://forum.belmont.edu/cornwall/archives/2004/08/tax_cut_myths_d.html

CBO REPORT HERE.
ftp://ftp.cbo.gov/57xx/doc5746/08-13-EffectiveFedTaxRates.pdf

Posted by: wanda at October 29, 2004 09:10 PM

i don't know what in the world is wrong with people.

Posted by: Liz at October 29, 2004 09:10 PM

Does anyone think the lesbian marriage commercial is really hot?

Posted by: sowkrdan at October 29, 2004 09:06 PM

Lesbian, Gay, Bi or straight .. I would slap that bitch! 45 minutes late?? Fuck you! How about 3 1/2 years!!!

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:11 PM

theres no voter fraud.

oh jeez.
*offers up a bowl of peanut butter spaghetti-o's to mister carmine*

Posted by: soopaj at October 29, 2004 09:11 PM

FUCKING CARMINe

READ THIS!!! CBO report comment.
http://forum.belmont.edu/cornwall/archives/2004/08/tax_cut_myths_d.html

CBO REPORT HERE.
ftp://ftp.cbo.gov/57xx/doc5746/08-13-EffectiveFedTaxRates.pdf

Posted by: wanda at October 29, 2004 09:11 PM

Terry,

4 in CO
10 in WI
20 in OH
21 in PA
27 in FL

Me and Bill Scher gonna be in Colorado... and the vote split initiative is gonna fail anyway... so

9 in CO

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 29, 2004 09:11 PM

CORPORATIONS AND THE RICH IN THIS COUNTRY ALMOST PAY NO TAXES.

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:12 PM

Lesbian, Gay, Bi or straight .. I would slap that bitch! 45 minutes late?? Fuck you! How about 3 1/2 years!!!

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:11 PM

I waited for 45 minutes for a date once...he was golfing and thought I should be grateful he didn't play all 18.

Posted by: Liz at October 29, 2004 09:12 PM

I mailed out my absentee ballot today and it's marked Democrat all the way down!

Go Kerry!

Posted by: BushSucks at October 29, 2004 09:12 PM

Theme tonight, pleeez:

Osama bin Laden thanked Allah that George Bush was slow to react on September 11th.

Bin Laden and Mohammed Atta assumed they would only have 20 minutes to act.

But Bush was so slow that the terrorists were able to carry out far more of their plan!

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=1&u=/ap/20041030/ap_on_re_mi_ea/bin_laden_tape

THANKS BUSH! YOU SHUR MAK AHR KUNTREE MUR SEKYUR.

Posted by: el_cid at October 29, 2004 09:12 PM

Cheney needs some mental help pretty badly...

"Cheney Calls Iraq, Afghan Wars Brilliant"

"MONTOURSVILLE, Pa. - Vice President Dick Cheney said Friday the invasion of Iraq will go down in history, along with the war in Afghanistan, for its "brilliance."

"The vice president's comment came as he portrayed the controversy over hundreds of tons of missing explosives in Iraq as a battle pitting Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites) against U.S. troops, with Cheney siding with the military."

"At an airport rally at a hangar in Montoursville, Pa., Cheney said the U.S. invasions of "Afghanistan and Iraq will be studied for years for their brilliance."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041029/ap_on_el_pr/cheney&cid=694&ncid=2043

Posted by: Nobody at October 29, 2004 09:13 PM

I am in Colorado, I voted against the vote split initiative. Dont believe it is good for the state. Kerry will get all 9 votes!

abby

Posted by: Abby at October 29, 2004 09:13 PM

Voter Suppression pure and simple - all in Democratic precincts I'm sure and all against Democratic voters.

GOOD NIGHT CARMINE!

GO VOTE FOR BUSH FOR THE LAST TIME!

THE STUPID LYING PRESIDENT EXPERIMENT IS OVER!

Posted by: Jim at October 29, 2004 09:13 PM

Hey everyone, I'm doing a FREE election contest on my blog. It's FREE to enter, but you win prizes. Simply pick the winners of each state in the Presidential election, and the winners of selected House and Senate races. Winner takes all. Did I mention it's FREE!?!?!?!? ENTER NOW!

http://www.primordium.org/index.php?p=37

Posted by: Jake White at October 29, 2004 09:13 PM

Liz, the world, unfortunately, is full of sheeple who choose to let others led them stupidly to the slaughter.

Posted by: OkieIndie at October 29, 2004 09:13 PM

Lesbian, Gay, Bi or straight .. I would slap that bitch!

That's where it gets really hot. And then...make up sex, baby!

Posted by: sowkrdan at October 29, 2004 09:14 PM

TERRA, Jeanine isn't getting anywhere with her father. She should give you a crack at him!

Posted by: frngy at October 29, 2004 09:14 PM

BUSH IS A CRIME FAMILY----

CHECK OUT WWW.DECEPTIONDOLLAR.COM

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:14 PM

Repugs make up lies about the reasons to keep Bush's tax cuts. The truth is they are greedy and don't want to part with their fortunes.

Posted by: BushSucks at October 29, 2004 09:14 PM

People who refuse to listen to reason are depressing.

Posted by: Mel at October 29, 2004 09:05 PM

Hi - I'm Mel.. 6'4, Black Hair, Blue Eyes, 8 1/2 inches - cut .. my turn-ons include Hot Liberal Chicks, Listening .. my turn-offs include people who don't listen and pleather!!

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:14 PM

Why are you letting your father insult this woman?

Posted by: Mel at October 29, 2004 09:15 PM

again for hour 3...

cool anti-Bush/anti-war 1 minute video

http://www.mikehalleen.com/gameover

Posted by: die hard hershey's syrup person at October 29, 2004 09:15 PM

waited for 45 minutes for a date once...he was golfing and thought I should be grateful he didn't play all 18.
Posted by: Liz at October 29, 2004 09:12 PM
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He figured he had a hole in one.

Posted by: Crank Bait at October 29, 2004 09:15 PM

Carmine must go!!!

Posted by: pezwaldo at October 29, 2004 09:15 PM

A Plan To Protect And Strengthen Medicare And Social Security
John Kerry and John Edwards understand that Medicare and Social Security are important commitments to America's seniors. These programs ensure that America's elderly have access to affordable, quality, and reliable health care. John Kerry and John Edwards will work to protect and strengthen Medicare and Social Security. They will also fight to provide a real prescription drug benefit that ensures access to affordable drugs for America's seniors.

A Plan to Strengthen Medicare
Create a Real Medicare Drug Benefit. George Bush passed a Medicare prescription drug bill that did nothing to stop soaring prescription drugs costs. John Kerry and John Edwards support a real, meaningful affordable drug benefit that doesn't force seniors into HMOs, is run by Medicare instead of private insurance companies that charge seniors whatever they want, and provides real relief to every senior no matter where they live.

Ensure Access To Affordable Prescription Drugs. The Kerry-Edwards plan will cut prescription drugs costs by (1) requiring the Secretary of Health and Human Services to negotiate better prices for prescription drugs, rather than paying the highest prices, (2) allowing reimportation of safe, FDA-approved drugs so that Americans can get the discounts on medications that are available in Canada and other countries, (3) requiring transparency rules for Pharmacy Benefit Managers that do business with the Federal government to reveal their profits from the drug industry and bulk purchasing, and (4) helping states provide discounts to other populations by giving them incentives to implement more efficient contracting to obtain better rates for prescription drugs.

Give Seniors Quality Options To Address Their Long-Term Care Needs. The Kerry-Edwards plan will ensure that seniors living in nursing homes receive quality care through adequate inspections and better training for health care workers. Their plan will also protect Medicaid from politicians who want to block grant the program, which would threaten access to the services seniors needs. Their plan will give seniors more options by allowing Medicaid to pay for a

Posted by: GoldenEagle at October 29, 2004 09:15 PM

What an assy question!

Posted by: Liz at October 29, 2004 09:15 PM

Carmine better watch out...she's gonna kick his ass.

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:15 PM

jesus christ, Janeane flush the
line on your dumb ass dad, please.

Posted by: Ajax at October 29, 2004 09:15 PM

Obviously he's drinking

Posted by: Bartender at October 29, 2004 09:15 PM

He figured he had a hole in one.

Posted by: Crank Bait at October 29, 2004 09:15 PM

He figured wrong.

Posted by: Liz at October 29, 2004 09:15 PM

shut up carmine... how would you like it if it happened to you?

come on...

Posted by: soopaj at October 29, 2004 09:16 PM

See he's not listening and he's insinuating that she's a liar and insulting her! LET CARMINE GO PLEASE.. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!

Posted by: Catharine at October 29, 2004 09:16 PM

......

This Carmine is FUCKING asshole!!

Posted by: wanda at October 29, 2004 09:16 PM

DAMN!! LOOK AT THIS!!!

Excerpts: Bin Laden video

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3966817.stm

"Security is an important pillar of human life. Free people do not relinquish their security. This is contrary to Bush's claim that we hate freedom.

Let him tell us why we did not strike Sweden, for example. It is known that those who hate freedom do not have proud souls, like the souls of the 19 people [killed while perpetrating the 11 September 2001 attacks], may God have mercy on them.

We fought you because we are free and do not accept injustice. We want to restore freedom to our nation. Just as you waste our security, we will waste your security."

"...I am amazed at you. Although almost four years have passed since the [11 September] incidents, Bush is still practising distortion and confusion.

He also continues to conceal from you the real reason [for the 11 September attacks]. Thus, the motives still exist for repeating what happened."

"...While some of our people were dazzled by the United States and hoped that these visits would affect our countries, he, instead, was affected by these royal and military regimes, envying them for remaining in their posts for scores of years, embezzling public money without being held accountable or monitored.

Accordingly, he transferred dictatorship and the repression of freedoms to his son by introducing the Patriot Act under the pretext of fighting terrorism.

Bush Senior deemed it appropriate to assign his sons to states. He also did not forget to convey the [election] rigging experience from the leaders of the [Arab] region to Florida to benefit from it at critical times...

We had agreed with the chief amir [leader - of the 11 September hijackers] Mohammed Atta that he should accomplish all the operations within 20 minutes before Bush and his administration could take notice.

It never occurred to us that the supreme commander of the US armed forces would leave 50,000 of his citizens in the two towers to face those great horrors alone, at a time when they needed him badly.

This is because it seemed to him that being preoccupied with the little child's

Posted by: Yoyodyne_John at October 29, 2004 09:16 PM

HANG UP ON CARMINE, I BEG YOU!

I can't take this any more!

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:16 PM

Thanksgiving's going to be a hoot at the Garafalo house this year.

Posted by: ceres at October 29, 2004 09:16 PM

Health Savings Accounts are simply not the answer.

How many people living paycheck-to-paycheck have money to set aside to put into health savings accounts for a rainy day?

How many of you have Health Savings Accounts now? After all, they are available now.

Kerry's proposal is to give incentives to businesses so they can provide insurance to employees. Tax credits that will especially help small businesses.

How many people want to administer their own health plan and coverage?

How many children benefit from health savings accounts?

Posted by: Star Vox at October 29, 2004 09:16 PM

She knows why see was challenged..

She sent the letter back..

Undeliverable..!!!

She knows why

Posted by: War Dog at October 29, 2004 09:16 PM

Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 29, 2004 09:09 PM

Okay .. I'm coming out there .. I'll freeze to death here!!! We can search for some old set decorations to live in!!

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:16 PM

Get that old fucking fascist off of this program. Fuck the prick!

Posted by: frngy at October 29, 2004 09:16 PM

Anyone care to defend the disgusting, racist pig now?

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:17 PM

...

FUCKING asshole

THIS FUCKING CARMINE IS an ASSHOLE....!!!

Posted by: wanda at October 29, 2004 09:17 PM

Okay .. I'm coming out there .. I'll freeze to death here!!! We can search for some old set decorations to live in!!

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:16 PM

Sorry .. that was me!!

Posted by: Wil at October 29, 2004 09:17 PM

60 million of us. We the 60 million Kerry voters voting.
We will not be moved.
Keep on voting; keep on voting.
We are doing it; we are doing it.
Keep on voting; keep on voting.

John Kerry our 44th President of the United States.

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at October 29, 2004 09:17 PM

tell carmine that if he thought it was a democrat that had him fingered

Posted by: Graycat at October 29, 2004 09:17 PM

Please vote at [url]http://www.courttv.com[/url]

and select "13th Juror", then select "In The News" to vote on a Osama bin Laden question.

So far it's in favor of the shrub. Kick ASS!

Posted by: BushSucks at October 29, 2004 09:17 PM

I hate that "45 minutes late" lady, what a *itch. I guess it proves lesbians can be psychos too.

Posted by: die hard hershey's syrup person at October 29, 2004 09:17 PM

I am so sick of this shite! I am out of here!

Posted by: Catharine at October 29, 2004 09:17 PM

I wish Sam could squint slap
Janeane's dad.

Posted by: Ajax at October 29, 2004 09:17 PM

Carmine needs a psychiatrist, not a daughter's care. He hears all through the filter of his own delusional mindset. He doesn't hear what is inconvenient to his otherworldly Death Cultist impression of the world.
Sam is right to scream at him...cut him off!

Posted by: DabidosanDD at October 29, 2004 09:17 PM

not everyone has the time to go to city hall to have to prove where you live...

and thats not even the point!

SHE SHOULDNT HAVE TO..

Posted by: soopaj at October 29, 2004 09:17 PM

Stroke Alert! Stroke Alert! Somebody give Sam a xanex...NOW!

Posted by: OkieIndie at October 29, 2004 09:18 PM

Thanksgiving's going to be a hoot at the Garafalo house this year.

Posted by: ceres at October 29, 2004 09:16 PM

Oh to be a fly on the wall!!!

Posted by: Bushleague at October 29, 2004 09:18 PM

He didn't listen to anything that woman said! She said she voted twice at that address! Make that point Sam and Janeane and then

HANG UP ON CARMINE!!!!

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:18 PM

Hey, hey hey hey, shut the fuck up Janeane, your father's a racist nazi and now it's exposed.

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:18 PM

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Posted by: wanda at October 29, 2004 09:18 PM

In NY we have lever voting machines. When I go to vote it always reminds me of the Wizard of Oz cuz the poll workers are always messing around with the machines. Resetting it or something. Who knows what strings are being pulled. Am I paranoid?

Posted by: AmIwrong? at October 29, 2004 09:18 PM

Jeanine your father is a fucking fascist prick. Never have him on this prick on the program. He longs for the days of Hitler and Mussolini. Pass along the posts so he know what people think of him.

Posted by: frngy at October 29, 2004 09:18 PM

WOW! Janeane's dad is a BIGTIME asshole! Whate a fukking waste of our time! Sorry J but your family infighting is a piss on our legs!

Posted by: Ravingoldleftist at October 29, 2004 09:18 PM

You go Janeane! Carmine is a Nazi idiot.

Posted by: BushSucks at October 29, 2004 09:18 PM

No offense to Janeane, but I have one of these at home. I don't need to tune in to liberal radio to hear your version of my fucking stupid, blind and ready to ruin our country for ever father.

Posted by: opeluboy at October 29, 2004 09:19 PM

You guys give this asshole too much airtime. It's not informative or entertaining.

Posted by: Mel at October 29, 2004 09:19 PM

Sam you are sooooo right in your outrage!!
Carmine has just proven himself to be an ass. Sorry JG.

Posted by: K.Y.B. at October 29, 2004 09:19 PM

DAMN!! LOOK AT THIS!!!

Excerpts: Bin Laden video

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3966817.stm

"We had agreed with the chief amir [leader - of the 11 September hijackers] Mohammed Atta that he should accomplish all the operations within 20 minutes before Bush and his administration could take notice.

It never occurred to us that the supreme commander of the US armed forces would leave 50,000 of his citizens in the two towers to face those great horrors alone, at a time when they needed him badly.

This is because it seemed to him that being preoccupied with the little child's talk about her goat and its butting was more important than being preoccupied with the planes and their ramming into the skyscrapers."

Posted by: Yoyodyne_John at October 29, 2004 09:19 PM

you know, it's at times like these that i take my leave from my neocon family's house.

Posted by: Liz at October 29, 2004 09:19 PM

i like it when sam yells...

Posted by: soopaj at October 29, 2004 09:19 PM

Good point though: Bring your utility bill, photo id and anything else you can to prove that you live where you do.

Posted by: Bushleague at October 29, 2004 09:19 PM

Dog eat dog is not a nice way to see the world. I think Carmine is seriously diseased.

Posted by: DabidosanDD at October 29, 2004 09:19 PM

Now at least Wanda is making sense

Posted by: Nobody at October 29, 2004 09:19 PM

Forget it Janeane. He's thinks voter suppression is AOK.

What a lost cause.

Posted by: Jim at October 29, 2004 09:19 PM

Burned by the Carmine again. When are J&S gonna get rid of this segment altogether? I'm sorry, but it's a complete waste of time. I might as well be listening to Brush Lintball, it's that aggravating.

Posted by: pezwaldo at October 29, 2004 09:19 PM

EXCELLENT INTERVIEW

It was the best, most revealing Air America interview that I have heard.

THE REPUBS ARE TRYING TO MAKE 2004 OHIO 2000 FLORIDA

DON'T LET IT HAPPEN

Posted by: Michael the Anti-Colonizer at October 29, 2004 09:19 PM

GET THESE PEOPLE OFF OF HERE ---- THEY ARE TRYING TO STEAL THIS ELECTION ALL OVER AGAIN.. WORST THAN 2000. STAND UP PEOPLE------DON'T LET BUSH CRIME FAMILY BACK IN BUSINESS

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:19 PM

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Posted by: wanda at October 29, 2004 09:19 PM

Because she sent the letter back.. undeliverable!

That means she does not live there..!!

She know why she admits it!!

Posted by: War Dog at October 29, 2004 09:19 PM

Let's face it. Old people are resistent to change. When scared, which is the Bush agenda, they freeze.

All your doing now is creating hard feelings.

and wasting your listener's time.

There are three groups that are most abused by Neocons, the elderly, Blacks and the troops.

Bush didn't have a majority in 2000, he sure as fuck didn't gain any supporters in the interim.

Tell your Dad you love him and hang the fuck up.

Posted by: Dutch Masters at October 29, 2004 09:19 PM

Carmine's question to Cathy was cowardly off-topic. He seriously cannot accept the truth! One, single, personal story.

Posted by: pruil at October 29, 2004 09:20 PM

Tora Bora: What Really Happened?
by Peter Bergen

http://www.peterbergen.com/clients/PeterBergen/pbergen.nsf/Web00002Show?OpenForm&ParentUNID=9FF2726B6783C68085256F3B00447441

Peter Bergen, one of the only journalists to INTERVIEW Osama bin Laden really tears Bush up on this.

Apologists for the US military failure at Tora Bora will no doubt provide several compelling reasons why this was the case, including a lack of airlift capabilities from the US base in neighboring Uzbekistan. However, such explanations are hard to square with the fact that scores of journalists managed to find their way to Tora Bora, a battle covered on live television by the world's leading news organizations. If Fox and CNN could arrange for their crews to cover Tora Bora it is puzzling that the US military could not put more boots on the ground to find the man who was the intellectual author of the 9/11 attacks. Sadly, there were probably more American journalists at the battle of Tora Bora than there were US troops. And in that sense, Sen. Kerry's charge that Tora Bora was a missed opportunity to bring bin Laden to justice isn't "garbage", but an accurate reflection of the historical record.

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 29, 2004 09:20 PM

Fuck you CARMINE fascist prick

Posted by: frngy at October 29, 2004 09:20 PM

Because she sent the letter back.. undeliverable!

That means she does not live there..!!

She know why she admits it!!

Posted by: War Dog at October 29, 2004 09:20 PM

Sam Rocks!

Posted by: BushSucks at October 29, 2004 09:20 PM

Carmine = Presenile Dementia.

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:20 PM

u know
when i hear peeps
getting this noisy
without saying anything
i look in the kitchen to see
if i can help serve thanksgiving dinner.
Hee hee (low blood sugar makes the kids cranky)

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 29, 2004 09:20 PM

She knows why

Posted by: War Dog
at October 29, 2004 09:16 PM

What the squat do you know Illegal War Dog ?
Besides squat.

Posted by: Ajax at October 29, 2004 09:20 PM

Carmine frightens me.

If there is a reason to vote for Kerry it is Carmine.

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at October 29, 2004 09:20 PM

The overwhelming majority of federal income taxes are paid by the very highest income earners. The top 1% of income earners pays 31.6% of all income taxes, the top 5% pays 51.4%, the top 10% pays 63.5%, and the top 20% of income earners pays 78.4% of all federal income taxes. The bottom four-fifths of income earners pay just over one-fifth of all federal income taxes.

Posted by: wanda at October 29, 2004 09:11 PM

This is all complete crap, they are only paying 17% of their total income.

these numbers they use are based only on household income, or pay check income.
Now the very rich don't make the majority of their income from a pay check, do they?

Posted by: terry wilke at October 29, 2004 09:20 PM

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Um, doesn't want to take the time to proof his point.

Posted by: Liz at October 29, 2004 09:20 PM

Bin Laden thanks God for Bush' slow response on September 11th:

"It never occurred to us that the supreme commander of the US armed forces would leave 50,000 of his citizens in the two towers to face those great horrors alone, at a time when they needed him badly."
- Bin Laden, videotape released on Al Jazeera

Posted by: el_cid at October 29, 2004 09:20 PM

SAY BYE BYE DADDY.... This is like talking to a wall... Getting tedious

Posted by: Tim the Democrat at October 29, 2004 09:20 PM

Posted by: OkieIndie at October 29, 2004 09:13 PM

I concur Okie...which is why educational plans like "no child left behind" are so counter intuitive...KEEP 'EM DUMB and they'll be non-thinking wage-slaves chained by an illusion of greatness (based on material possessions)...they're lemmings but not all of them...BTW Carmine's wrapped in one of those very blankets of denial (politically)...at least he was able to provide the chromosomes to give us JG...he's like the primate that throws the branch at the beginning of 2001: Space Odyssey...da- DUM!!! He's being Mr. Difficult-Pants...

Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 29, 2004 09:20 PM

Carmine is either brain damaged or his brain has been thoroughly laundered. Your citizenship is challenged and all he can think of is "Why did you talk to a lawyer"

Posted by: Veracious at October 29, 2004 09:20 PM

He figured he had a hole in one.
Posted by: Crank Bait at October 29, 2004 09:15 PM
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He figured wrong.
Posted by: Liz at October 29, 2004 09:15 PM
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...should have chosen the spoon instead of the mashy niblick

Posted by: Crank Bait at October 29, 2004 09:20 PM

bye carmine ...

Posted by: cate at October 29, 2004 09:21 PM

Intelligent, reasonable people can disagree; however, intelligent, reasonable people do NOT vote for Bush.

Posted by: Susan at October 29, 2004 09:21 PM

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 29, 2004 09:20 PM

No kidding!

Posted by: Liz at October 29, 2004 09:21 PM

Can we stop with the Carmine segments? He is worse than Mark Luther. He's ignorant and unpersuadeable of the facts.

Sam - screaming at him is not worth it. Intelligent people look at facts.

Posted by: gatb1 at October 29, 2004 09:21 PM

....

This carmine Guy DOESN"T care if his fellow citizen can't vote,

or Iraqi was tortured, ...
etc etc...

He is a BASIC asshole.

Posted by: wanda at October 29, 2004 09:21 PM

Blazyn, let's not forget that crazy 1,000 points of light crap!

Posted by: Bushleague at October 29, 2004 09:21 PM

Why bother to support yourself with facts, Carmine?

Posted by: DabidosanDD at October 29, 2004 09:21 PM

War Dog...the republican party has no rights to know whether I live somewhere or don't and i'm under no obligation to inform them...

Nor was she

Posted by: Nobody at October 29, 2004 09:21 PM

Wow, did I just hear Sam go all Larry O'Donnell on Carmine O'Garofalo? Wow...

Posted by: wildekid at October 29, 2004 09:21 PM

was that nearer to heaven by the delays?

i frickin LOVE that song!

Posted by: soopaj at October 29, 2004 09:21 PM

take a deep breath through the nose...

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:22 PM

I'm glad the bigot finally showed his true colors, and was rude that guest. I'll bet he has a name for people like her, that begins with N and ends with R.

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:22 PM

Did anyone hear Al's friend Mark's endorsement for Bush today? I laughed my ass off. Even he didn't have anything good to say about Bush.

Posted by: Anne Marie at October 29, 2004 09:22 PM

Janeane, I know you love your dad.

We don't.

Make him stop before Sam has an aneurism.

Posted by: sowkrdan at October 29, 2004 09:22 PM

What the squat do you know Illegal War Dog ?
Besides squat.

Posted by: Ajax at October 29, 2004 09:20 PM

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

They were looking for undeliverable addresses..

she admits she sent a letter back marked undeliverable..

Posted by: War Dog at October 29, 2004 09:22 PM

Janeane may love her dad but I think he is a moron!

Posted by: BushSucks at October 29, 2004 09:23 PM

And now Carmine won't spend HIS time to look up a foundation for HIS claims.

That's just cowardly. Cowardly, cowardly, cowardly.

There's nothing more important than the truth, and Carmine can't spend time looking for it, but he can make hollow claims about it at his convenience!!

Posted by: pruil at October 29, 2004 09:23 PM

Sorry, Janeane-Carminee is as far down on my list as the trolls now.

AND, you should not have to prove to an opposing party where you live just because you re-registered!

Posted by: Yoyodyne_John at October 29, 2004 09:23 PM

Can we stop with the Carmine segments? He is worse than Mark Luther. He's ignorant and unpersuadeable of the facts.

Sam - screaming at him is not worth it. Intelligent people look at facts.

Posted by: gatb1 at October 29, 2004 09:21 PM

I agree with you completely. If I yelled at him, I would not be as restrained as Sam.

Posted by: Michael the Anti-Colonizer at October 29, 2004 09:23 PM

Jeanine work our your dysfunctional family's issues on your own time not ours.

Posted by: frngy at October 29, 2004 09:23 PM

A mind is a terrible thing Carmine. Amazing how he tried to victimize the victim all over again.

Posted by: Jim at October 29, 2004 09:23 PM

I did have to provide a copy of my lease to get my electricity turned on, but I haven't had to go down to the city utilities office since I got my power turned on to provide evidence that I live in the same place I lived when I signed up for electriciry service.

So, I have to say that Carmine's analogy is only half right.

Posted by: That Damn Hippie at October 29, 2004 09:23 PM

I love ya , but your dad is a moron!

Posted by: leftified at October 29, 2004 09:24 PM

I like the Carmine segment because it wakes me up out of my stupor. I stopped watching Fox completely when Air America came on the air back in March, so I tend to forget that there are Bush followers out there.

Seriously, without Carmine, I'd think that Kerry was going to get 100% of the vote. No kidding.

Posted by: Susan at October 29, 2004 09:24 PM

I think you should bring Carmine back when the Death Cult's defeat is certified, so Sam can have the joy of gloating to offset the stress of having had to be polite to such a loser.

Posted by: DabidosanDD at October 29, 2004 09:24 PM

Carmine is so fossilized in the Republican viewpoint it is scary. But useful to know that this kind of uninformed individual is why Bush has any support at all. "brain lock."

Posted by: antiradio at October 29, 2004 09:24 PM

Whew. What a jackass. That man is neither reasonable nor intelligent. He possesses a shocking denial what is reality. He is bigoted, narrowminded ,old and white - unfortunately a perfect representative of the blindly faithful Republican.
Sorry Janeane.

Posted by: Gregg at October 29, 2004 09:24 PM

This show was so good while Carmine was in Italy... You give this curmudgeon too much respect. STOP

Posted by: Mel at October 29, 2004 09:24 PM

Where's raving?

Posted by: Liz at October 29, 2004 09:24 PM

I've had this thought for a while and I wonder if anyone else shares my view. It appears to me that these Bush apologists, who disingenuously spin and, frankly make shit up, act like they are in some kind of cult. They just seem to regurgitate the same stale talking points over and over and over again.

Posted by: Jenblogger at October 29, 2004 09:24 PM

Janeane, putting the FUN back into disfunction. Yeee haaa! What a disturbing segment.

Posted by: Bushleague at October 29, 2004 09:24 PM

The Carmine segment has to go. I walk away when he's on, and I'm sorry I had to listen to him when he squeaked on during the interview.

Posted by: Smallbottle at October 29, 2004 09:25 PM

The whole point of the Carmine segment was to get everyone upset and motivated so they will be certain to vote. Hehe, worked pretty well. Trust no one!

Posted by: AmIwrong? at October 29, 2004 09:25 PM

They were looking for undeliverable addresses..

she admits she sent a letter back marked undeliverable..

Posted by: War Dog at October 29, 2004 09:22 PM

And she was under no obligation to respond to a letter fro mthe republican party was she?

The letter wasn't from an offical source was it?

No...

You're an idiot Wrinkle farmer

Posted by: Nobody at October 29, 2004 09:25 PM

::claps for Sam:::

Posted by: pruil at October 29, 2004 09:25 PM

http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/oct04/270603.asp

GOP fails to get 5,619 names removed from voting lists
City commission says party didn't prove case; challenges could move to polling places

Posted by: wanda at October 29, 2004 09:25 PM

I am so sick of this freakin' Everybody loves Raymond parody commercial. Damn glad I don't live in New Jersey!

Posted by: Gigi at October 29, 2004 09:25 PM

Republican Family values!!!

Arkansas Legislature Candidate Drops Bid

8 minutes ago

CONWAY, Ark. - A Republican state legislative candidate suspended his campaign Friday after news surfaced of his arrest record for exposing himself to children.

Alan Fortney was arrested three times since 1981 on misdemeanor counts of indecent exposure. He was fined but never served time in jail, he told the Log Cabin Democrat newspaper of Conway, about 25 miles north of Little Rock.

In a statement, Fortney said he was suspending his campaign because he believes "it is in the best interest of my family and me personally to take my name out of consideration for this office."

Fortney, 42, told The Associated Press he didn't "know what else to say."

"My name will still be on there (the ballot) but I've discontinued my campaign. I pulled the ads, everything," he said.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=616&e=1&u=/ap/20041030/ap_on_el_st_lo/brf_candidate_arrest_record

Posted by: tonid at October 29, 2004 09:25 PM

Oh, and this converting people isn't going to work, remember the PIPA report that came out last week?

Posted by: That Damn Hippie at October 29, 2004 09:25 PM

she admits she sent a letter back marked undeliverable..

Posted by: War Dog at October 29, 2004 09:22 PM

actually she never said that

Posted by: terry wilke at October 29, 2004 09:25 PM

################################################

Thank you Janeane for having Carmine on the show..

Thank him for me when you see him again..!!

Thanks.... War Dog!!!

#################################################

Posted by: War Dog at October 29, 2004 09:26 PM

Carmine frightens me.

If there is a reason to vote for Kerry it is Carmine.

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at October 29, 2004 09:26 PM

I knew when push came to shove, Janeane would defend her racist father over amiable, liberal Sam. God I wish he was on a different show.

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:26 PM

What the hell does Jesse Ventura know about warfare? Just because he was in Predator doesn't make him a combat expert and it doesn't give him the right to attack people like the president.

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at October 29, 2004 09:26 PM

Ohh, Talk Talk, by Talk Talk. Play it longer

Posted by: Bushleague at October 29, 2004 09:26 PM

Carmine is an ass and he will vote for the man that mosts mirrors him. We don't need him.

Posted by: K.Y.B. at October 29, 2004 09:26 PM

Your father needs to come to Orlando and see what is going on down here. I an astonished that he does not believe that there has been no voter supression. I think he wants to believe in the good in people and still believe in the honesty of our elector system.

Sadly those days are gone. Sorry Carmine (sp)

Posted by: m2kfl@aol.com at October 29, 2004 09:26 PM

Sam, thank you for your anger. Me and my wife are having a hell of a time voting this year. You speak to our anger!!!

Posted by: Kingfish at October 29, 2004 09:26 PM

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/july-dec04/swingstates_10-28.html

DARREL ROWLAND: Frankly, that's been said so often that's almost the cliché of the year in both senses of the word. One, Ohio could be very, very close on election night, and in fact, we may not know the winner election night or the next morning or who knows how long. And number two, in that our voting procedures are so much under fire, they may or may not withstand security.

We are in court today, as a matter of fact, on the Republican's effort to challenge about 35,000 of these newly registered voters across the state. They lost that at the federal court level. However, there have been appeals made today -- actually, three different appeals: One by the Franklin County Board of Elections here in Columbus; one by the Republican Party and one by another group, one by our attorney-general, Jim Pietro. So that's an emergency appeal to the U.S. 6th Circuit Court of Appeals, so stay tuned for more developments on that.

Posted by: wanda at October 29, 2004 09:26 PM

Bin Laden thanks God for Bush' slow response on September 11th:

Posted by: el_cid

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makes me wonder if Bush company had more exact intel on the plan prior to 9/11 and just allowed to happen.

Abby

Posted by: Abby at October 29, 2004 09:27 PM

Having a bit of Sean Hannity in ya is like being a bit pregnant.

Posted by: greg at October 29, 2004 09:27 PM

Rob, Jessie was in the Navy Seals. Tough bastards!

Posted by: Bushleague at October 29, 2004 09:27 PM

Oh, and this converting people isn't going to work, remember the PIPA report that came out last week?

Hey, my dad isn't voting Bush this year, and re-registered as an Independent.

He's still quite a smug, but at least he's not a totally amoral drone. (anymore)

Posted by: pruil at October 29, 2004 09:27 PM

What the hell does Jesse Ventura know about warfare? Just because he was in Predator doesn't make him a combat expert and it doesn't give him the right to attack people like the president.
Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at October 29, 2004 09:26 PM

If you had a pecker bigger than a cocktail frank ... you would know he was a Seal.

Posted by: Nik E Poo at October 29, 2004 09:27 PM

What the hell does Jesse Ventura know about warfare? Just because he was in Predator doesn't make him a combat expert and it doesn't give him the right to attack people like the president.

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at October 29, 2004 09:26 PM

Jesse Ventura is a decorated Navy seal...that might be what gives him the right to critisize

Posted by: Nobody at October 29, 2004 09:27 PM

Sadly those days are gone. Sorry Carmine (sp)

Posted by: m2kfl@aol.com at October 29, 2004 09:27 PM

If you had a pecker bigger than a cocktail frank ... you would know he was a Seal.

Posted by: Nik E Poo at October 29, 2004 09:27 PM

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Posted by: Liz at October 29, 2004 09:28 PM

SAM SAM SAM...

Tell Scher that Fishgrease gonna be in Colorado too! Tomorrow!

Fort Collins!

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 29, 2004 09:28 PM

Guys, why are Bill Richardson and Bob Graham sharing a round table discussion with the likes of Laura Ingraham? They're all on Larry King. I didn't think that Laura would be on there--(a) she has to share the stage with Democrats, (b) she's in the belly of her so-call liberal media, and (c) I didn't think she cared for Jews that much. Or was that Ann Coulter who fells that way?

Posted by: wildekid at October 29, 2004 09:28 PM

President Bush and Cplin Powell were having breakfast at a resteraunt in a small town. The surprised waiter said, "It's a real honor to meet both of you. But what in the world are you two doing here?"
Bush said, "We're planning World War III. We're going to kill a lot of innocent civilians and one blonde with big tits."
The waiter asked "Why kill a blonde with big tits?"
Bush turned to Powell and said, "See. I told you no one would worry about the civilians,"

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:28 PM

===============================================
"What a disturbing segment"
Posted by: Bushleague at October 29, 2004 09:24 PM
===============================================

That describes it perfectly. I felt like a voyuer listening to my neighbors fighting.

Janeane, it's not "a bit of Sean Hannity" when he victimizes the victim again. It's evil.

Posted by: Jim at October 29, 2004 09:28 PM

The interview with the voter challenged about her residence was so revealing. It is such an outrage and an indication how low America has sunk. I am proud of America but I am ashamed that these cretins can even make such a challenge. It's time for Carmine to go.
CARMINE is an ASSHOLE

Posted by: Bob4blues at October 29, 2004 09:28 PM

Ask him about the new battleground state, my little Hawaii. We might actually matter this time.

Posted by: opeluboy at October 29, 2004 09:28 PM

“2 Very Different Cures for Healthcare Crisis”
-As the issue moves into the campaign spotlight, Bush and Kerry outline starkly opposing views.

Check out this article to learn more about both plans:
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-na-health14sep14,1,5936476.story?coll=la-headlines-frontpage

Posted by: Star Vox at October 29, 2004 09:29 PM

I don't care if Jesse Ventura was in the Seals. That doesn't give him the right to attack our president during a time of war. It demoralizes our troops in the field. Jesse should know better.

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at October 29, 2004 09:29 PM

All right, that's enough of Carmine. He's not arguing honestly, so doesn't deserve our time.

Posted by: rjbruce at October 29, 2004 09:29 PM

In an article called "Bush Like Me", Matt Taibbi writes that what is most important to the true believers is not facts or getting to the truth. What matters most is keeping the confrontation alive.

Notice how the angrier S and G get, the calmer Carmine gets. The same thing happens with Franken and Mark Luther.

If you have not read this article it is at:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/_/id/6539082?pageid=rs.PoliticsArchive&pageregion=mainRegion

This is well worth the read and I think goes a long way to explaining the question of how so many on the right behave the way they do.

Posted by: Freship at October 29, 2004 09:29 PM

Carmine is so fossilized in the Republican viewpoint it is scary. But useful to know that this kind of uninformed individual is why Bush has any support at all. "brain lock."
Posted by: antiradio at October 29, 2004 09:24 PM

He is a Basic asshole. He is not misinformed, He clearly can quote rightwing talking point, which some are on talking point books and web pages.

Posted by: wanda at October 29, 2004 09:29 PM

What the hell does Jesse Ventura know about warfare? Just because he was in Predator doesn't make him a combat expert and it doesn't give him the right to attack people like the president.

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at October 29, 2004 09:26 PM

He was a navy SEAL, you slack-jawwed faggot.
You will never be a sexual Tyranasaur, like Jesse.

Posted by: sowkrdan at October 29, 2004 09:29 PM

Let's face it. Old people are resistent to change. When scared, which is the Bush agenda, they freeze.

Posted by: Dutch Masters at October 29, 2004 09:19 PM

Not just old people, either. I talked to one of bosses yesterday and asked him if he had voted. He said yes, but told me it was so difficult to make his choice because the negative campaigns really took it out him. I told him that's part of the plan to suppress voter turnout, and then I asked him what his issues were. He told me, told me how shitty Bush had done on all those issues, then told me he voted for Bush anyway, because he didn't know about Kerry. (!!!!)

I just about lost it. He's an intelligent man, and I made sure to tell him (respectfully) that he had clearly voted against his best interests. By the end of our chat, he was feeling a little lousy about it. Some consolation, but it was pretty depressing. I just don't get it.

Posted by: pezwaldo at October 29, 2004 09:29 PM

Any more webpolls good people??

Posted by: BushSucks at October 29, 2004 09:29 PM

I don't care if Jesse Ventura was in the Seals. That doesn't give him the right to attack our president during a time of war. It demoralizes our troops in the field. Jesse should know better.

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at October 29, 2004 09:29 PM

We should have sent you on a long cruise far away with no internet access.

Posted by: Liz at October 29, 2004 09:29 PM

Carmine is an ass and he will vote for the man that mosts mirrors him. We don't need him.

Posted by: K.Y.B. at October 29, 2004 09:26 PM

No, I think he's just selfish and greedy.
He appreciates the tax cuts and is willing to say or do anything to keep them coming same as the rest of them.

Posted by: terry wilke at October 29, 2004 09:30 PM

It could be if you were still here!

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:30 PM

TIME FOR A MEGA CHALLENGER BEAT DOWN FEST!!!!!!!

Posted by: Buford at October 29, 2004 09:30 PM

The spin machine wants you to think that every time Kerry changes his schedule, he going to lose the another State. Not this time!

Posted by: Jim at October 29, 2004 09:30 PM

COLIN!!!! Do you have that link of the Kerry signs that an artist is going to be putting up around Milwaukee and Chicago??????? Colin are you doing a cleansing of the station after Carmine segment.

Posted by: Bushleague at October 29, 2004 09:30 PM

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COLORADO

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Colorado 2004 Polls
Coors vs Salazar Senate Polls | Send This Page to a Friend

RCP Average | 10/14-10/29 - - 49.5 44.3 1.3 Bush +5.2

Zogby | 10/26-10/29 600 LV 4.1 47 46 - Bush +1
Survey USA | 10/18-10/20 596 LV 4.1 52 45 - Bush +7
Ciruli Assoc | 10/15-10/19 600 LV 4.0 48 42 2 Bush +6
Rasmussen | 10/18 500 LV 4.5 50 45 - Bush +5
CNN/USAT/Gallup | 10/14-17 666 LV 4.0 51 45 1 Bush +6
Mason-Dixon | 10/14-10/16 630 LV 4.0 49 43 1 Bush +6
Rcky Mtn News | 10/13-14 400 LV 4.9 47 42 3 Bush +5
SurveyUSA | 10/5-10/7 598 LV 4.1 52 44 - Bush +8
Mason-Dixon | 10/4-10/6 630 LV 4.0 50 41 - Bush +9
Gallup/CNN/USAT | 10/3-10/6 667 LV 5.0 49 49 1 TIE
Rasmussen | 9/29 500 LV 4.0 48 44 - Bush +4
SurveyUSA | 9/21-9/23 626 LV 4.0 52 44 3 Bush +8
Ciruli Assoc | 9/14-9/18 600 LV 4.0 50 38 3 Bush +12
Rasmussen | 9/16 500 LV 4.5 46 45 - Bush +1
RMN/News 4 | 9/12 - 9/13 500 LV 4.3 45 44 3 Bush +1
ARG | 9/10 - 9/13 600 LV 4.0 46 45 3 Bush +1
Rasmussen | 8/19 500 LV 4.5 47 47 - TIE
SurveyUSA | 8/14-8/16 622 LV 4.0 47 47 - TIE
Mason-Dixon | 6/15-6/18 n/a 3.5 48 43 - Bush +5
Rasmussen | 4/15 500 LV 4.5 49 44 - Bush +5
RMN/News 4 | 3/31-4/1 400 LV 4.9 49 40 4 Bush +9

Posted by: War Dog at October 29, 2004 09:30 PM

Opeluboy, why do you think it is so close in Hawai'i this time around? I'm curious. Do you think the president will pull off a big upset there? Thanks!

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at October 29, 2004 09:30 PM

Blame the victim:
Catherine Herold, one of 976 Summit County, Ohio voters whom the state GOP tried to cheat out of their votes.
What kind of clothes was she wearing. Was she flirting with the Republicans by not taking their mail.

It makes me wonder. Carmine ist kein mensch

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at October 29, 2004 09:30 PM

Carmine does have one point in his faor regarding someone being contacted because of ballot problems. There have been over 150 absentee ballots set aside that probably will not be counted because the voter did not sign their name in a rectangular area on the flap of the envilope.

In this case BOTH political parties have started to contact the voters in question to have them file provisional ballots. BOth parties are also trying to get the ballots counted.

Posted by: m2kfl@aol.com at October 29, 2004 09:31 PM

Bullshit Rob...getting our soldiers killed...not providing enough armor or men to get he job done is what is driving moral...you fucking moron...Those men know their commander in chief is a dickwad

Posted by: Nobody at October 29, 2004 09:31 PM

Rob Greenbaum, isn't this the gay ex marine who listen to Christine Rock. Why don't you like Ozzy, he likes you.

Posted by: Aleister Crowley at October 29, 2004 09:31 PM

I don't care if Jesse Ventura was in the Seals. That doesn't give him the right to attack our president during a time of war. It demoralizes our troops in the field. Jesse should know better.

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at October 29, 2004 09:29 PM
We should have sent you on a long cruise far away with no internet access.

Posted by: Liz at October 29, 2004 09:29 PM

lol

Posted by: Michael the Anti-Colonizer at October 29, 2004 09:31 PM

Mr. Greenbaum,
Our President chose to put our country in this position. Based on lies. With no regard to the international community. I do believe a little criticism is in order.

Posted by: OkieIndie at October 29, 2004 09:31 PM

Here's a newsflash, Rob Greenbaum. If Bush has his way, it will be all war all the time. does that mean we can never criticize him at all?

By the way Greenbaum, go sign up. They need more people like you in Arab countries.

Posted by: opeluboy at October 29, 2004 09:31 PM

I wonder if Janeane has doubts about the liberals here after they so savagely ravaged her dad. Anyone see a conflict of interest?

Posted by: AmIwrong? at October 29, 2004 09:31 PM

Go to Optruth.org. You will see that Bush is demoralizing our troops by sending them on a mission with no purpose and without the proper support and equipment.

Ignorant prick looking out for his campaign contributors instead of the troops.

Posted by: sowkrdan at October 29, 2004 09:32 PM

It demoralizes our troops in the field. Jesse should know better.

What about all of those brave men and women who have not been able to cast their absentee ballots yet? What about all of those men and women who are in Iraq who won't get their ballots cast on time and feel that they are being disinfranchised by the goverment they have sworn to protect. Ahhh why do I bother.

Posted by: Bushleague at October 29, 2004 09:32 PM

Carmine is a BASIC ASSHOLE,

He doesn't care if his fellow citizen can't vote.

HE doesn't care if his fellow citizen can't vote.

Posted by: wanda at October 29, 2004 09:32 PM

I am a Disenfranchised Voter, and I Didn’t Even Know I Was a Target

http://www.newsnpr.net

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at October 29, 2004 09:32 PM

Does anyone know if Ann "Horseface" Coulter is on Bill Maher tonight?
I think Belzer is on too. Anyone? Anyone?

Posted by: K.Y.B. at October 29, 2004 09:32 PM

Jesse Ventura is a decorated Navy seal...that might be what gives him the right to critisize

Posted by: Nobody at October 29, 2004 09:27 PM

Okay ...DO NOT RIP MY HEAD OFF .. but Jesse is not a decorated seal. He was in the Navy but never completed BUDS training.... however I agree - as a military man .. he is spot on.

Posted by: Wil at October 29, 2004 09:33 PM

Carmine, War Dog, other wankers ... are aptly described in this article

The quote of choice is:

They are not looking for facts with which to defeat opponents. They are looking for facts that ensure them an ever-expanding roster of opponents. They can be correct facts, incorrect facts, irrelevant facts, it doesn't matter. The point is not to win the argument, the point is to make sure the argument never stops. Permanent war isn't a policy imposed from above; it's an emotional imperative that rises from the bottom. In a way, it actually helps if the fact is dubious or untrue (like the Swift-boat business), because that guarantees an argument. You're arguing the particulars, where you're right, while they're arguing the underlying generalities, where they are.

Once you grasp this fact, you're a long way to understanding what the Hannitys and Limbaughs figured out long ago: These people will swallow anything you feed them, so long as it leaves them with a demon to wrestle with in their dreams.

Posted by: Nik E Poo at October 29, 2004 09:33 PM

Carmine could and probably has rationalized the Holocaust.

Posted by: frngy at October 29, 2004 09:33 PM

Liz:
If I remember correctly. Ventura endorsed Kerry without comment. He is also helping OP-Truth get their message out. OP_Truth is non partisan and only wants to tell the story of the troops by the troops.

Posted by: m2kfl@aol.com at October 29, 2004 09:33 PM

The worst part of the Carmine bit was that Sam and Janeane could not or would not rebut his argument with facts. Instead of letting him blather about how when you move, you need to prove your residence at that new address, they should have said but SHE HAD VOTED TWICE at this address, her address was on record and had been acceptable in two previous elections THIS YEAR!

Instead they just try to appeal to rationality of which he has none. Sigh.

Going to have to go take out my frustration on Bush at

http://www.slapthecandidate.com/

It helps a little.

Posted by: Zee at October 29, 2004 09:33 PM

I don't care if Jesse Ventura was in the Seals. That doesn't give him the right to attack our president during a time of war. It demoralizes our troops in the field. Jesse should know better.

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at October 29, 2004 09:29 PM

He's not criticizing the president. Can't you HEAR? He's asking people to visit a site of soldier's writings. That's right--soldier's writings. That's all. It's a nonpartisan site. Go there, and read, instead of listening to talking heads or assuming everything you think about a war you haven't been to is correct. sheeesh.

Posted by: pruil at October 29, 2004 09:33 PM

Is it safe? Is he gone?

Posted by: Catharine at October 29, 2004 09:33 PM

Oh look it's War Dog and his Way Back Machine...where are we going today Mr War Dog?

back to... 3/31-4/1

Posted by: Nobody at October 29, 2004 09:33 PM

someone hit wanda, she's skipping like a scratched record.

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:33 PM

The Republican challenges in Ohio have already begun. Yesterday, party officials submitted a list of about 35,000 registered voters whose mailing addresses, the Republicans said, were questionable. After registering, they said, each of the voters was mailed a notice, and in each case the notice was returned to election officials as undeliverable.

NYTimes articles
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/102404Z.shtml

Posted by: wanda at October 29, 2004 09:33 PM

FROM THE DESK OF CARL ROVE

HHHHMMMMM.....
YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD FOR THE REPUBLICAN CAMPAIGN RIGHT NOW??
OH I DON'T KNOW...
MAYBE AN ENGLISH SPEAKING AL QUEDA MEMBER... YESSSS... THAT'S THE TICKET...
THEN HE COULD APPEAR ON A VIDEO TAPE... THREATENING AMERICANS WITH DEATH AND TERROR... BUT IN ENGLISH....
YES ENGLISH... SO NOT TRANSLATOR WOULD BE NEEDED AND SO ALL THE RADIO SHOWS COULD SIMPLY PLAY THE TAPE...SPOKEN CLEARLY SO EVERYONE WOULD UNDERSTAND IT... A TERRORIST WITH A REALLY GOOD ENGLISH SPEAKING VOICE...
YES... A TERRORIST THAT IS A GOOD ENGLISH READER WITH A PASSIONATE CONDEMNING TONE...
YES... SO THE AMERICANS WOULD HANG ON IS EVERY OVER ENUNCIATED WORD...
YES... THAT'S IT... AND PERHAPS A VERY SCARY MONOLOUGE JUST IN TIME FOR HALLOWEEN... COMPLETE WITH REFERENCES TO "BLOOD IN THE STREETS!" HMMM... AND MAYBE EVEN A BUSH CHENEY REFERENCE... JUST FOR EFFECT!!!!
YES... YESSSSS.... THAT'S IT...

"YES.... POPPIES WILL MAKE THEM SLEEP!! YES!!!"

UNREAL!!!!!
AND THEY THOUGHT WE'D EAT IT UP LIKE...
OH I DON'T KNOW... FOOD OR SOMETHING!!!

NIGGA PLEEZ!!!!

FUCK THE FUHRER!!

IT'S ON TUESDAY Y'ALL!!! GO PRESIDENT KERRY!!!

Posted by: TERRA at October 29, 2004 09:34 PM

Rob,

The maturity level associated with your asinine comment about criticising our President begs the question: Does your mommy know that you're not in bed yet?

Posted by: OkieIndie at October 29, 2004 09:34 PM

Why are we putting up with this? FLORIDA, OHIO: Rupee/Drug THESE CHALLENGER/BLOCKER ASS*****S NOW !!!

Posted by: Buford at October 29, 2004 09:34 PM

She admits she sent a letter back marked undeliverable..

Posted by: War Dog
at October 29, 2004 09:22 PM

It's time fascists be called fascists.

Carmine is not an intelligent person who
is voicing his view, he's a man that's gone
down the wrong road and doesn't know how
to turn the family station wagon around.
He's lost to the dark side, just
like you .

Odd how all 1000 contested voters
were Dems, or do you expect us to
buy into that it was a random selection
of voter applications that just
turned out to be 1000 Dems ?

Posted by: Ajax at October 29, 2004 09:34 PM

Now let's get on with the Kerry voting.
we take a little break with Bush dirty tricks
and then it is back to voting voting voting voting voting voting 60 million times for Kerry

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at October 29, 2004 09:35 PM

Posted by: m2kfl@aol.com at October 29, 2004 09:33 PM

I actually don't care about Ventura at all. I thought the cocktail weenie penis comparison was funny.

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:35 PM

I've been having a gay affair with celticman.

Posted by: WarDog at October 29, 2004 09:35 PM

To lurker Greenbaum as to why Bush is making headway in Hawaii: because assholes from the mainland keep moving here and trying to turn my home into So Cal. Ain't gonna happen.

Yes, bush will lose. We'll also throw Lingle's bony ass out too.

Posted by: opeluboy at October 29, 2004 09:35 PM

GO CHRIST ALMIGHTY THERE IS A LOT OF TROOLS IN HERE TONIGHT!!!

what's all this flop sweat flying around trolls?

Posted by: terry wilke at October 29, 2004 09:35 PM

Ventura was born in Minneapolis, Minnesota This article is about the city in Minnesota. There is also Minneapolis, Kansas.

Minneapolis is the county seat of Hennepin County, Minnesota. As of the 2000 census, the city had a total population of 382,618 making it the largest city in Minnesota. It is in the southeast part of the state, adjoining the second-largest city and state capital, St. Paul. The two cities on the Mississippi River together are known as the Twin Cities. Minneapolis takes its name from the Dakota word for water ('minne') and the Greek word for city ('polis'), and is sometimes called the 'City of Lakes.'
..... Click the link for more information. . He (then known by his legal name of Janos) graduated from Minneapolis's Theodore Roosevelt
table border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0"> Theodore Roosevelt
Order: 26th President
Term of Office: September 14, 1901–
March 4, 1909
Followed: William McKinley
Succeeded by: William Howard Taft
Date of Birth Wednesday, October 27, 1858
Place of Birth: New York City
Date of Death:
..... Click the link for more information. High School in 1969
Years:
1966 1967 1968 - 1969 - 1970 1971 1972
Decades:
1930s 1940s 1950s - 1960s - 1970s 1980s 1990s
Centuries:
19th century - 20th century - 21st century

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1969 in aviation
1969 in film
1969 in literature
1969 in music
1969 in sports
1969 in television
1969 in Canada

..... Click the link for more information. . From 1969
Years:
1966 1967 1968 - 1969 - 1970 1971 1972
Decades:
1930s 1940s 1950s - 1960s - 1970s 1980s 1990s
Centuries:
19th century - 20th century - 21st century
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1969 in aviation
1969 in film
1969 in literature
1969 in music
1969 in sports
1969 in television
1969 in Canada

..... Click the link for more information. to 1973
Years:
1970 1971 1972 - 1973 - 1974 1

Posted by: Bushleague at October 29, 2004 09:35 PM

Posted by: m2kfl@aol.com at October 29, 2004 09:33 PM

I actually don't care about Ventura at all. I thought the cocktail weenie penis comparison was funny.

Posted by: Liz at October 29, 2004 09:35 PM

http://www.newarkadvocate.com/news/stories/20041023/localnews/1467283.html

The state and county Republican Party filed before Friday's deadline to have a voter challenger at each of Licking County's 122 precincts. The Democratic Party did not file on Friday and will not have any challengers in Licking County, although they may have challengers in other Ohio counties.

Posted by: wanda at October 29, 2004 09:35 PM

What the hell does Jesse Ventura know about warfare? Just because he was in Predator doesn't make him a combat expert and it doesn't give him the right to attack people like the president.

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at October 29, 2004 09:26 PM

What the hell does Bush know about warfare, he wnet awol and left because he couldn't land a plane alone.

Posted by: tonid at October 29, 2004 09:36 PM

George Bush' plan for moral improvement...

"As of Friday, Oct. 29, 2004, at least 1,111 members of the U.S. military have died since the beginning of the Iraq war in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count. At least 848 died as a result of hostile action, according to the Defense Department. The figures include three military civilians."

"The AP count is four higher than the Defense Department's tally, last updated Friday at 10 a.m. EDT."

"The British military has reported 67 deaths; Italy, 19; Poland, 13; Spain, 11; Ukraine, nine; Bulgaria, seven; Slovakia, three; Estonia, Thailand and the Netherlands, two each; and Denmark, El Salvador Hungary and Latvia have reported one death each."

"Since May 1, 2003, when President Bush declared that major combat operations in Iraq had ended, 973 U.S. military members have died, according to AP's count. That includes at least 739 deaths resulting from hostile action, according to the military's numbers"

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041029/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_us_deaths&cid=540&ncid=1480

Posted by: Nobody at October 29, 2004 09:36 PM

Carmine is just another one of the "loyal Party followers". Theirs is a closed mind, unable to "see" the errors of their party. There is no talking to people like this, because they will not hear what you say, because when you begin with wanting to have an honest discussion, they are ready to reject anything and everything you have to say. I'd like to think it is because they are brainwashed, but it is more a matter of remaining loyal, no matter what.

I spoke to a Repub last week, and looked him in the eyes and asked him if he honestly felt that W deserved another 4 years. He answered honestly "no", citing the "Iraq Mess", and the Deficit as abominable failures. This man and I always disagreed about Bush, but this was the first time he actually agreed with the obvious.
That discussion gave me hope.

People like Carmine cannot help themselves.

Keep the faith folks.

Barb in FL

Posted by: Barbara in FL at October 29, 2004 09:36 PM

liz, pez, jim, everybody, goodnight early...its a beautiful day here

peaches xx

Posted by: cate at October 29, 2004 09:36 PM

Damit! Sorry, that was not what I copied. Sorry about the long post.

Posted by: Bushleague at October 29, 2004 09:36 PM

No, no NO!! The Osama Bin Laden video can't be allowed to help Bush!

Bin Laden just publicly thanked Allah that Bush was so slow & incompetent on September 11th!!!

"This is because it seemed to him that being preoccupied with the little child's talk about her goat and its butting was more important than being preoccupied with the planes and their ramming into the skyscrapers.

"This gave with three times the period required for carrying out the operations, praise be to God."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3966817.stm

Posted by: el_cid at October 29, 2004 09:36 PM

Okie~ I hope he has his binky.

Posted by: Liz at October 29, 2004 09:36 PM

Ohio GOP challenges 35,000 on voter rolls
Cuyahoga board struggles to solve workload problem
Saturday, October 23, 2004
Scott Hiaasen
Plain Dealer Reporter

A bare-knuckled political season got even rougher Friday when the Ohio Republican Party formally challenged the validity of 35,000 voter registrations across the state.

http://www.cleveland.com/community/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/1098523922184171.xml

Posted by: wanda at October 29, 2004 09:36 PM

I notice that some people are answering the imaginary postings of the non-entities. Scroll past the Trolls, for there are no Trolls. GRNBM and Warthog are nothingness within this continuum.

Posted by: DabidosanDD at October 29, 2004 09:36 PM

When are J&S gonna get rid of this segment altogether? I'm sorry, but it's a complete waste of time.
Posted by: pezwaldo at October 29, 2004 09:19 PM

please don't assign a snarky tone to what I'm about to say;

since the whole premise of having the Carmine come on the show with his luddite political views was to convert him from the dark side of the force...and since the election is on tuesday...I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's over in 1-more show (2 tops)...unfortunately he's way gone...to bring him back would be akin to diving into shark infested waters for a $2 watch...you might be able to bring it back in one piece...but chances are, you'll love parts of yourself that you'll miss; not worth the effort...he's closer to the tomb stone commode than he is to the womb so...let him go gracefully...KERRY IN A LANDSLIDE, YO!!!

Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 29, 2004 09:36 PM

Nobody... may I ask a favor? can we not entertain any trolls tonight? even dumdum WaDo ... please? Just asking.

Posted by: Catharine at October 29, 2004 09:37 PM

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20041108&s=facts 100 FACTS ABOUT BUSH

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:37 PM

===============================================
"I wonder if Janeane has doubts about the liberals here after they so savagely ravaged her dad
===============================================

Sure we all "ravaged" her dad. Jeneane knows what the deal is and while we would all like to see her dad's condition improve, he really deserved it.

Posted by: Jim at October 29, 2004 09:37 PM

Peaches cate!

Posted by: Bushleague at October 29, 2004 09:37 PM

enjoy your day, cate. :)

Posted by: pezwaldo at October 29, 2004 09:37 PM

Carmine could and probably has rationalized the Holocaust.

Posted by: frngy at October 29, 2004 09:33 PM

depends on the size of the tax cut eh?

Posted by: terry wilke at October 29, 2004 09:37 PM

'night cate! have a good weekend - see you monday

Posted by: Liz at October 29, 2004 09:37 PM

She admits she sent a letter back marked undeliverable..
-------------------
No, it was returned to sender, not marked 'undeliverable'.

Posted by: nmark in Toledo at October 29, 2004 09:37 PM

pezwaldo, that story sucks. I've run across too many idiots who don't deserve to vote. They should at least give a saliva test first.

You guys were a bit overboard on calling Carmine vulgar names. How would you feel?

Posted by: Dutch Masters at October 29, 2004 09:38 PM

My mouse's ball is full of lint

*picks lint from under mouse*

Posted by: Diddler at October 29, 2004 09:38 PM

Hey fukkin bloggers....it's fukking FRIDAY night! I wonder if Bill O'Reilly has that electric dildo up his ass.....RIGHT NOW???

GO BILL!

Posted by: Ravingoldleftist at October 29, 2004 09:38 PM

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20041023-070109-6139r.htm

The Ohio Republican Party officially Friday challenged the validity of 35, 000 voter registrations across the state, the Cleveland Plain Dealer reported.

Posted by: wanda at October 29, 2004 09:39 PM

Why do we use "peaches" as a farewell? :D

Posted by: Michael the Anti-Colonizer at October 29, 2004 09:39 PM

Vampyres lurk on Walpurgis Nacht to suck your blood...but there are no Trolls.

Posted by: DabidosanDD at October 29, 2004 09:39 PM

Is it safe? Is he gone?
Posted by: Catharine at October 29, 2004 09:33 PM

Seems to be. We still have a couple trolls flopping about.

Posted by: Nik E Poo at October 29, 2004 09:39 PM

COLIN!!!! Do you have that link of the Kerry signs that an artist is going to be putting up around Milwaukee and Chicago??????? Colin are you doing a cleansing of the station after Carmine segment.

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sorry dude - don't have the links

Posted by: COLIN at October 29, 2004 09:39 PM

Peaches as bye, BUSEY as a curse LOL!

Posted by: Bushleague at October 29, 2004 09:39 PM

MEDIA KEEP VOTERS IN DARK
As the general election approaches, Project Censored notes the stories the corporate media failed to tell
By Peter Phillips and Kate Sims

http://www.populist.com/04.18.censored.html

Posted by: Yoyodyne_John at October 29, 2004 09:40 PM

Dear Ms. Garofalo,
I am sorry for you, having a mean father, the absolute opposite of mine. Please keep your word and let tonight be the last night we have to listen to a family circle jerk. It is tiresome and takes valuable time away from what little time is left for meaningful dialog, discourse.
Your opening comments regarding costumes were mean spirited. What in hell is wrong with moderately attractive women letting go, doing something "wild"?
Best Regards,
Patricia Welch
ps: i have, in my days of masquerade, usually gone in the opposite direction. to ultra masculine

Posted by: patricia welch at October 29, 2004 09:40 PM

Lets waste the time of the Challengers at the polling places!

I plan to be Challenger bait on Tuesday. I'll carry Democratic voter guides and wear a Kerry button. Maybe I'll affect an accent and wear a La Raza shirt. With any luck I'll attract the attention of the Republican disenfanchiser. Then I pull out my cellphone and a notebook, maybe even take some photos, start interrogating him (or her) and generally monopolize all his attention and time while my neighbors proceed through the line unimpeded. In the end I'll vote (I've been voting in the same precinct in every single general election for the last 15 years, they won't be able to legally stop me).

Posted by: nmark in Toledo at October 29, 2004 09:40 PM

"I'm with Busey" was so horrible that it was funny.

Posted by: Michael the Anti-Colonizer at October 29, 2004 09:40 PM

Nope...The trolls remind me of issues to post on and allow me the opportunity state my opposing opinion...

I will not stop opposing them...stop asking...

Posted by: Nobody at October 29, 2004 09:40 PM

Nobody, if the troops think our president is a so-called "dickwad," why are they supporting him in overwhelming numbers? A poll out yesterday said that 2/3 of National Guard members (AND their families) will be supporting the president. Our men and women in uniform love this president! Kerry, who badmouthed his fellow servicemen when he returned from Vietnam, has very little credibility with the military. I know I said this yesterday, but I want to repeat it. The president may not have gone to Vietnam, but at least he didn't badmouth his fellow soldiers for political gain.

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at October 29, 2004 09:40 PM

Carmine is just another one of the "loyal Party followers". Theirs is a closed mind, unable to "see" the errors of their party.
Posted by: Barbara in FL at October 29, 2004 09:36 PM

No, he is actively SEEK spin and use wrong information to explain away item.

Posted by: wanda at October 29, 2004 09:40 PM

Republicans are simply disgusting pigs. Anti-American disgusting pigs.

Posted by: opeluboy at October 29, 2004 09:41 PM

Well, there's some rough stuff about ole' Carmine on here but do not forget if there was no Carmine, there would be no Janeane. What a huge, huge loss that would be to our whole society. So, Carmine has done a good thing. His political postions are so bizzarre that they do not merit the anger...

Posted by: irraging at October 29, 2004 09:41 PM

Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 29, 2004 09:36 PM

True, Blayzn. Good point. It just seemed like that threshold (the point that J&S realised they'll never 'turn' Carmine)was crossed a long time ago. There was never any hope with him, IMHO.

But I love your $2 watch analogy.

Posted by: pezwaldo at October 29, 2004 09:41 PM

Important voter information for you to have and to share:

1. If you are not sure what the poll opening & closing times are for your state, or know somebody who needs this information, go here:

http://www.fec.gov/pages/faqs.htm

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Posted by: Jimmy James at October 29, 2004 09:41 PM

I voted today. Said a little prayer to lift the tide in Oklahoma to carry Brad Carson to victory. Any other okies out there?

Posted by: OkieIndie at October 29, 2004 09:42 PM

Personally, I am waiting for Carl Weathers and the Native American dude from Predator to endorse a candidate, before I make my final decision.

Posted by: sowkrdan at October 29, 2004 09:42 PM

she admits she sent a letter back marked undeliverable..

Posted by: War Dog at October 29, 2004 09:22 PM

I believe she said (or I read in the article) that she sent it back "Refused". There's a difference between someone marking mail Refused and marking it Not At this Address.

Posted by: Peace Cat at October 29, 2004 09:42 PM

Wanda:
That is not nice. Carmine simply cannot believe that this country has sunk to the depths it has in regards of the games being played with the voters this year. I am a truck driver and run into his kind everyday. He wants to thonk the best of this country and would be saddened if he were to finally realise the truth.

Posted by: m2kfl@aol.com at October 29, 2004 09:42 PM

Catharine,

~~~ Is it safe? Is he gone? ~~~

Bad man gone, Sweetheart.

Bad man gone.

Posted by: Fishgrease at October 29, 2004 09:43 PM

oh, who gives a damn, Carmine isn't going to read the blog, stop being a mom dutch.

I think i'm getting tired and cranky.

Posted by: Liz at October 29, 2004 09:43 PM

Rob they are not supporting him at all....in overwhelming numbers...

Sorry Rob but you're wrong in the worst way

Posted by: Nobody at October 29, 2004 09:43 PM

A white guy getting paid with crack...it's like Willie Horton in bizarro world...but what should we have expected from these turd-burglars?

Oh yeah, Wil, I check out TAL every weekend...it's NICE...here's a great episode if you haven't heard it:

What I Should've Said
1/16
Episode 257 http://www.thislife.org/

Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 29, 2004 09:44 PM

I plan to be Challenger bait on Tuesday.
Posted by: nmark in Toledo at October 29, 2004 09:40 PM
--------------------------
There you go again...

Posted by: Crank Bait at October 29, 2004 09:44 PM

FUCK SHIT FUCK SHIT FUCK SHIT FUCK SHIT

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:44 PM

No, he is a basic asshole.

If you donwload all of his interview archive. He actively spin and explain away very clear news item with vague, spin and obfuscation.

when asked GIVE CLEAR example, he will move on to next subject pretending he has explained it.

Posted by: wanda at October 29, 2004 09:45 PM

My heart is breaking for Janeane. Her father supports a President whose followers call her a traitor, a communist, pro-Saddam and anti-American. I really dislike her dad, I'm sorry. He knows how passionate she is about politics yet he doesn't listen and regurgitates all of the same tired and trite intellectual dishonesty. I'm sure it hurts her deeply.

Posted by: Jenblogger at October 29, 2004 09:45 PM

Those fake registrations can't result in any Kerry votes, so how are they evidence of Democratic voter fraud. It make no sense at all. Don't people have any critical thinking ability?

Posted by: nmark in Toledo at October 29, 2004 09:45 PM

Posted by: sowkrdan at October 29, 2004 09:42 PM

LOL! Poncho Ramirez, played by Richard Chaves

http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0154520/

Posted by: pezwaldo at October 29, 2004 09:45 PM

Rob,
This President has allowed Guiliani to bad mouth our troops...who are getting KILLED LEFT AND RIGHT...and has NOT come to their defense. How can you possible support that type of "leadership"? You should be ashamed.

Posted by: OkieIndie at October 29, 2004 09:46 PM

Hey fukkin bloggers....it's fukking FRIDAY night! I wonder if Bill O'Reilly has that electric dildo up his ass.....RIGHT NOW???

GO BILL!

Posted by: Ravingoldleftist at October 29, 2004 09:38 PM

I think he has mistakenly crammed a gyro up his arse.

Posted by: Liz at October 29, 2004 09:46 PM

Rob:
Kerry did NOT badmouth his fellow vets. He testified at the hearings AT THE REQUEST OF A GROUP OF VETS.

Rather than listen to the right wing media, to to the c-span website or even to the library of congress and check out the UNEDITED testimoney that Kerry and others made.

Posted by: m2kfl@aol.com at October 29, 2004 09:46 PM

Seems to be. We still have a couple trolls flopping about.

Posted by: Nik E Poo at October 29, 2004 09:39 PM

Don't they really waddle about??? I hear they are weak, too .. never have enough strength to lift things places....

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:46 PM

War Dog, you're not obliged to recieve mail, registered or not, from anybody. Much less a political party. She does live there. If you don't believe her, you fucking douchebag, file a challenge.

This is all an acknowledgement that if elections accurately reflected the will of the people, there would be no national GOP presence.

Winning elections by intimidating 62 year old woman. What a piece of shit you are.

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:46 PM

okie - i'm in the land of oz too.

Posted by: Liz at October 29, 2004 09:46 PM

Think about this before you cast your vote.

Look at the following list of names and consider who they would most likely vote for if they were allowed to vote in our coming election,

Martin Luther King
Abraham Lincoln
Thomas Jefferson
Benjamin Franklin
Thomas Paine
Gandhi
Eleanor Roosevelt
Robert Kennedy
Nelson Mandela
Bishop Tutu
The Lorax

When you cast your vote will you be voting the same way as you think the above people will vote?

How closely aligned with these people will you be?

Posted by: Jimmy James at October 29, 2004 09:47 PM

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at October 29, 2004 09:40 PM

you - my friend - are a douche

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:47 PM

October 29, 2004
OP-ED COLUMNIST
It's Not Just Al Qaqaa
By PAUL KRUGMAN

ust in case, the right is already explaining away President Bush's defeat: it's all the fault of the "liberal media," particularly The New York Times, which, so the conspiracy theory goes, deliberately timed its report on the looted Al Qaqaa explosives - a report all the more dastardly because it was true - for the week before the election.

It's remarkable that the right-wingers who dominate cable news and talk radio are still complaining about a liberal stranglehold over the media. But, that absurdity aside, they're missing a crucial point: Al Qaqaa is hardly the only tale of incompetence and mendacity to break to the surface in the last few days. Here's a quick look at some of the others:

Letting Osama get away Just before the story about Al Qaqaa broke, the Bush-Cheney campaign was frantically trying to debunk John Kerry's statement that Mr. Bush let Osama bin Laden get away when he was cornered at Tora Bora. That getaway, Mr. Kerry asserts, was possible because the administration "outsourced" the job of closing off escape routes to local Afghan warlords.

In response, Gen. Tommy Franks claimed that we don't know that Osama was at Tora Bora, and, anyway, we didn't outsource the work of catching him. Dick Cheney called Mr. Kerry's claims "absolute garbage." But multiple reports from 2001 and early 2002 confirm Mr. Kerry's version. As Peter Bergen, a terrorism expert, writes, Mr. Kerry's charge is "an accurate reflection of the historical record."

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/29/opinion/29krugman.html?ei=1&en=ecbf424477d4b4b4&ex=1100041061&pagewanted=print&position=

Posted by: tonid at October 29, 2004 09:47 PM

Janeane,
Don't let your dad get you down. I tried to get my Republican mother to "see the light" up to the year she died (in her early 80's.) She came from a long family line of Republicans and would feel as though she were abandoning them if she were ever to change. The best I was able to do was to get her to watch the Presidential debates (in 1990, the year she died) and, after seeing and listening to George Bush, she said she was not going to vote. THAT was a major statement, coming from someone who was active and "connected" in the Republican Party all her adult life. I honestly think your father WILL NOT believe what conflicts with his world view.
I'm afraid you are wasting your time...

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:47 PM

I think he has mistakenly crammed a gyro up his arse.
Posted by: Liz at October 29, 2004 09:46 PM

LOL! I'm sure he got it nice and lubed up with the tzatziki sauce.

Posted by: pezwaldo at October 29, 2004 09:47 PM

You're right, Bill. They can't steal a landslide. That's why our media has been reporting a close race — so they can.

Posted by: opeluboy at October 29, 2004 09:48 PM

jeanne is on ch 13 tv ny wnet - right NOW !!!!!

Posted by: michael at October 29, 2004 09:48 PM

Nobody, why don't you back up your statement with evidence? What makes you think that military voters are going to support "Hanoi John"? The guy got booed at the VFW convention in Vegas (while the president was warmly greeted). The veterans are for the president and so are our current military. ALL of the polls I have seem that have conducted surveys of the preferences of the military have the president up BIG, including the Nat'l Guard one I cited earlier.

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at October 29, 2004 09:48 PM

A poll out yesterday said that 2/3 of National Guard members (AND their families) will be supporting the president
Posted by: a slack jawed troll at October 29, 2004 09:40 PM
------------------
Funny thing about that, there was another recent poll that said that 54% of the military were voting for Kerry.

And its a very funny thing that even though I know quite a few kids in the military, and several currently serving officers, and have met several vets who have returned from the war arena, not a one of them has anything good to say about the current administration or Bush. Maybe they are just all really sensitive about my feelings, eh?

Posted by: nmark in Toledo at October 29, 2004 09:48 PM

I think he has mistakenly crammed a gyro up his arse.

Posted by: Liz at October 29, 2004 09:46 PM

Please .. falafal!!!! : D

Posted by: Wil at October 29, 2004 09:48 PM

LOL! I'm sure he got it nice and lubed up with the tzatziki sauce.

Posted by: pezwaldo at October 29, 2004 09:47 PM

LOLLLLLLLLl

Posted by: Liz at October 29, 2004 09:48 PM

VOTE VOTE VOTE!

Posted by: BushSucks at October 29, 2004 09:48 PM

"Because she sent the letter back.. undeliverable!

That means she does not live there..!!

She know why she admits it!!"

Posted by: War Dog at October 29, 2004 09:19 PM

War Dog, does every on get these letters in the Mail, or is it targeted. Now that would be illegal.

Posted by: lefftee at October 29, 2004 09:49 PM

janeane is on ch 13 tv ny wnet - right NOW !!!!!

Posted by: michael at October 29, 2004 09:49 PM

Shattered!!!

Posted by: DabidosanDD at October 29, 2004 09:49 PM

Does anyone know if Ann "Horseface" Coulter is on Bill Maher tonight?

I think Belzer is on too. Anyone know?

Posted by: K.Y.B. at October 29, 2004 09:49 PM

Please .. falafal!!!! : D

Posted by: Wil at October 29, 2004 09:48 PM

Everyone craves variety.

Posted by: Liz at October 29, 2004 09:49 PM

Ah, I love Yo La Tengo

Posted by: pruil at October 29, 2004 09:49 PM

Wanda:
I simply cannot go that far. He is vary stubbern, but I have heard him in lengthy debates and he seems to be fair minded. Tonights argument was a real suprise. This is the most heated exchange I have heard with Carmine since I started listening to the Majority report.

Well, show's over.

Posted by: m2kfl@aol.com at October 29, 2004 09:49 PM

Did you know?

That one of the reasons music converged to a form of 12 note even-temperment tuning, was because the instruments, keyboard and guitar, were technically different?

In other words the violin and the piano...were designed differently...so eventually musicians needed a way for them to be "in tune".

Posted by: -B at October 29, 2004 09:49 PM

Something totally creepy...from Talking Points Memo:

Can you say 'cult of personality'?

Chris Suellentrop has a half bizarre/half chilling report from the campaign trail in Florida last night. It's about what seems to be a new feature of the Bush rallies: the pledge of allegiance to President Bush.

Here's Chris ...

"I want you to stand, raise your right hands," and recite "the Bush Pledge," said Florida state Sen. Ken Pruitt. The assembled mass of about 2,000 in this Treasure Coast town about an hour north of West Palm Beach dutifully rose, arms aloft, and repeated after Pruitt: "I care about freedom and liberty. I care about my family. I care about my country. Because I care, I promise to work hard to re-elect, re-elect George W. Bush as president of the United States."

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2004_10_24.php#003844

Posted by: Zee at October 29, 2004 09:49 PM

Rob Greenbaum, isn't that the gay ex marine who listens to Christian Rock. Why don't you like Ozzy, he likes you.

Posted by: Aleister Crowley at October 29, 2004 09:49 PM

Rob,

Your comments are infantile, as is your reasoning. Perhaps you should take a bit of your own advice and back up your nonsensical ravings with factual links/evidence. Otherwise, go back to bed. The stamping of the feet and the whining is really starting to annoy.

Posted by: OkieIndie at October 29, 2004 09:50 PM

Carmine tricks

-He declares high officials or expert ignorant of facts and wrong
-He just blather away as if he knows what he is talking about
-Then when as CONCRETE proof to back his assertion, he will move on to different subject

-repeat...

Posted by: wanda at October 29, 2004 09:50 PM

But they will have the best lawyers money can buy! They will get away with it. What we need to do it to set them off against each other. The Christians need to turn states evidence against the tycoons. They can feel good about it too.
The tycoons aren't doing a very Christian thing by suppressing the vote!

Posted by: spocko at October 29, 2004 09:50 PM

Posted by: OkieIndie at October 29, 2004 09:50 PM

I bet Rob is a libra too.

Posted by: Liz at October 29, 2004 09:51 PM

Nobody, why don't you back up your statement with evidence? What makes you think that military voters are going to support "Hanoi John"?
Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at October 29, 2004 09:48 PM

... Puhleez ... even Sinclair stopped singing that song! Oh .. bet that pissed you're narrow little self off last week, huh??

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:51 PM

Lets waste the time of the Challengers at the polling places!

Posted by: nmark in Toledo at October 29, 2004 09:40 PM

*******
Excellent Idea... I would love to do it, but I don't anticipate it happening in New York... Good on you, though!

Posted by: Catharine at October 29, 2004 09:51 PM

"Well, there's some rough stuff about ole' Carmine on here but do not forget if there was no Carmine, there would be no Janeane." --irraging

Carmine's indefensible conservative intransigence may be the very thing that propelled super-J ever-deeper into the realm of the righteous left.

Posted by: Pandemia at October 29, 2004 09:51 PM

Well, show's over.

Posted by: m2kfl@aol.com at October 29, 2004 09:51 PM

Gang, we're in the last hours of this election. The last weeks of this administration. I am so happy that people such as all of you have been so active and have questioned authority always. Without the blogs so much of this vital information would have been lost and never have seen the light of day. You are a credit to the cause!

Just had to say that to you all.

Posted by: Bushleague at October 29, 2004 09:51 PM

*** HOT FRESH AGITPROPS ***
Get Out the Vote Flyers!

It's all a ground game now, folks. I've stocked the top of the agitptops.org page with GOTV flyers, most with the 866-OUR-VOTE number on it. They fit four to a page and look good in color or B&W.

Go to http://agitprops.org to see them all and lots of others. The links below let you download ready-to-print Word docs directly from the site.

http://agitprops.org/highnoonpage.doc
http://agitprops.org/kerrylandslidepage.doc
http://agitprops.org/voteforpage.doc
http://agitprops.org/honorsacrificepage.doc
http://agitprops.org/fightpage.doc
http://agitprops.org/bringitonpage.doc

Please forward these links to activist pals in swing states. (Especially folks who can print stuff out at work!)

PRINT YOUR DISSENT!
http://agitprops.org

Posted by: agitprops at October 29, 2004 09:52 PM

I'm here .. YOU JUST HAVE TO LOOK HARDER!!!

: )

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:52 PM

When the moon is in the Seventh House
and Jupiter aligns with Mars
Then peace will guide the planets
And love will steer the stars

Posted by: ceres at October 29, 2004 09:52 PM

Well, show's over.

Posted by: m2kfl@aol.com at October 29, 2004 09:52 PM

Liz...I'll bet you're right...Libra with Sag ascending. No wonder he is such a trollish whiner.

Posted by: OkieIndie at October 29, 2004 09:52 PM

Going again, Happy Halloween. G'night ya'll.

Posted by: DabidosanDD at October 29, 2004 09:53 PM

Well Rob let me tell you a dirty little secret about being in the military...You tend not to criticize either republicans or the command in chief no matter how you vote in private...personal experience Rob...You try and fit into the expectations of those men around you...otherwise things kind of fall apart...

Posted by: Nobody at October 29, 2004 09:53 PM

Everyone craves variety.

Posted by: Liz at October 29, 2004 09:49 PM

LOL!!!

Posted by: Wil at October 29, 2004 09:53 PM

What are you doing this weekend?

Can you volunteer to help the Kerry campaign?

http://volunteer.johnkerry.com/

Download this new poster:

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/KE_voting.pdf

Posted by: Star Vox at October 29, 2004 09:53 PM

With all due respect to your father, which isn't much, we hardly need another slant-head, ditto-machine spewing the Bush White-lying house drool.
Social security taxes used to be put into a fund that was OFF-BUDGET until Congress took it OFF-BUDGET. Now the money collected goes into general revenue. When Clinton accrued budget surpluses, he used it to pay down our National debt, which actually increased the surplus because not only did we pay down some debt, we also decreased the amount of money we had to pay towards interest on the National debt. Paying down the debt inceased the money out there for businesses to use and kept the interest rates low, but it also put us in a more financially secure position to cover the costs of social security when the baby boom generation retires. John Kerry will not have to raise taxes because he supports a BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT. An amendment to our constitution that REQUIRES the Federal Government to live within its means. Which is easy to do if we quit allowing Republicans to give tax breaks to their campaign contributors.
Second, health saving accounts do NOTHING to affect the problem. Giving people health INSURANCE will lower the costs. If you are a person without health insurance you pay a higher price than someone who has health insurance.

Posted by: bushcrools at October 29, 2004 09:53 PM

Peaches, friends...trolls, I hope you get on the wrong internets next time to attempt to hit our blog.

Posted by: Liz at October 29, 2004 09:53 PM

Don't forget to watch Independent Film Channel immediately after the show 10:00 Eastern, 9:00 Central...F9/11 documentary about the doc.

Posted by: Bushleague at October 29, 2004 09:54 PM

Posted by: m2kfl@aol.com at October 29, 2004 09:49 PM

Nope. I listened to most of his blather. In the beginning Jeanine and Sam just being nice and go easy on him even if he blathers away.

He SOUNDS reasonable, his voice doesn't modulate much. But like I say his trick is very simple.

-Declare the other guys doens't know what he is talking about. (regardless)
-Then he blathers away and toss out all his stuff.
-If ask to give concrete proof, he moves on to next subject
-If point it out logical incoherent, he will say. no, you are wrong. then move on to next subject.

He is dishonest and an asshole.
SImple as it is.

Posted by: wanda at October 29, 2004 09:54 PM

They can't steal a landslide.
Posted by: opeluboy at October 29, 2004 09:48 PM

This reminds me of the episode of the Simpson's where Bart needs to get a good grade or he won't be able to see the Itchy and Scratchy Movie. He gets a 'D', and tries to fudge it, turning it into a really bad 'A'. Homer sees through this, and tells him he could've just tried for a 'B'. No movie.

My hope is that if the Repubs are intent on winning this election illegally, they'll get greedy and try to turn the 'D' into an 'A'.

Otherwise, it's Kerry in a landslide.

Posted by: pezwaldo at October 29, 2004 09:54 PM

Posted by: bushdrools at October 29, 2004 09:54 PM

Yeah Janeane but what did you think?

Posted by: Mel at October 29, 2004 09:54 PM

Not to make anyone too paranoid (as if it's hard these days), but earlier in today's news cycle, they had this 'talking terrorist' video on (at least) CNN, which seemed dubious -- and which was quickly pulled.

Then, as if by magic, you have this 'bona fide Osama bin Laden tape' running everywhere, directly mocking the U.S. president. Even my own "U.S.A." button was pressed upon seeing this, so despite what anyone may say this tape was 'for' Bush in some way or another.

Posted by: JustAnIdea at October 29, 2004 09:54 PM

I'm off to play squash with a lady friend of mine. For the record, I AM NOT GAY! I am an active, heterosexual male. I enjoy my gay friends, but only on a platonic basis. Good night!

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at October 29, 2004 09:55 PM

I'm sure glad my dad isn't like poor Janeanes. My dad is still a hippie in his 60's. He really gets into the issues and is very serious about politics because of all the bad stuff that happened in the 60's and 70's. My old man is open with me when I point out when I have a different opinion. He'll change an opinion on something when he understands he had it wrong. Janeanes father seems the opposite of that.

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:55 PM

I e-mailed several media about the Sproul scam when it broke, demanding that they cover it. I sent the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette the chat room discussion of librarians and pointed out that Sproul had operated in their area and asked if a librarian had more courage than their paper.

The story appeared two days later.

I e-mailed a long and scathing (but polite) letter to the Bishop in Denver about his remarks and a few weeks later he softened it. (I think I posted it here before the lengths were limited.)

I e-mailed this lunatic
http://www.opinioneditorials.com/writer.php?id=glandrith
on October 2nd and tore him a new asshole ( I think I posted it here). I didn't stop his madness but he didn't post for almost two weeks afterward.

I don't claim to have been THE difference but feel I was A difference.

These scumbags need to be piled on when they lie to the public. They need to fear us if that's what it takes.

I also e-mailed the Taliban government on the night of 9/11....I am an American.

United we stand, Divided we fall.

Even if you don't consider yourself Shakespeare a simple heartfelt message pointing out the wrong doing is, when enumerated, effective.

Posted by: Dutch Masters at October 29, 2004 09:55 PM

'nite Liz. have a great weekend. :)

Posted by: pezwaldo at October 29, 2004 09:55 PM

We should be very kind to Janeane for sharing this situation with us. It must be very difficult for her and with luck this venting will result in Janeane's abillity to gain a stronger relationship.

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at October 29, 2004 09:55 PM

Sam, you missed the key questions. You should have asked her how many of the 200 challenged people showed up. I will bet it was not even half. The Reps know that they have no cases and no proof for anything. They know they will get clobbered in any hearing. But that does not bother them. What they are banking on is many people not being willing to take time off from work and paying parking fees to go down and prove their case in a hearing. If they don't show up they disqualify themselves and that is what the Reps are counting on. Also you should ask if there are any criminal penalties for filing bogus challenges. If not that would mean I could challenge 2,000 or more reps on no basis whatever. Would they have to go to a hearing? If so, I bet many would not show up.

Posted by: Dennis McKinsey at October 29, 2004 09:55 PM

I thought the Democrats were into science, what's with all the Astrology tonight? Kerry believes in science cuz he told me so.

Posted by: AmIwrong? at October 29, 2004 09:55 PM

u 2 pez

Posted by: Liz at October 29, 2004 09:56 PM

Jeneane.

You father is an ASSHOLE....

He tries to spin torture
He doesn't care about if other people can't vote

Posted by: wanda at October 29, 2004 09:56 PM

No one hates your dad, Janeane. It's just like Franken having his ditto head friend on. Not what I tune in for. I can hear willfully ignorant people all day on the radio. I can listen to my own father. Move on.

Posted by: opeluboy at October 29, 2004 09:56 PM

Sam, thank you for your anger. Me and my wife are having a hell of a time voting this year. We are military voters and they have screwed up our absentee ballots. You spoke for us and represented our anger. We wear the uniform and sacrifice for our country, but we are not allowed to vote. Thank you again.

Posted by: Kingfish at October 29, 2004 09:56 PM

Seriously, without Carmine, I'd think that Kerry was going to get 100% of the vote. No kidding.

Posted by: Susan at October 29, 2004 09:24 PM

YOU'RE SCARING ME! (shaking wreath of garlic at the screen) Now there's a Halloween story that'll keep me up for a few days...

Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 29, 2004 09:56 PM

Janeane is being so sweet to Sam! On Air!

And he deserves it. Sam, you rule.

Posted by: pruil at October 29, 2004 09:56 PM

Let's get control of the anger, passionate and caring MR bloggers . . .

No burning peace signs on Carmine's lawn this weekend . . . . OK ?

Posted by: Pandemia at October 29, 2004 09:56 PM

'night Liz. Maybe I'll talk to you again sometime.

Posted by: OkieIndie at October 29, 2004 09:56 PM

Jeannine:
Your father is just stubbern. I have had equally heated discusions with friendas and when the debate is over we shake hands and get on with it. I do not feel that Carmine took it that hard.

Posted by: m2kfl@aol.com at October 29, 2004 09:56 PM

Malicious Sam, Carmine was being Malicious!

Posted by: terry wilke at October 29, 2004 09:57 PM

Where'd you go, War Dog, you fucking coward. Come on out and defend why you need to win elections by intimidating old women. C'mon, have some balls, you piece of shit.

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:57 PM

Kingfish, thank you for your and your wifes selfless service to our country. Blessings to you and yours.

Posted by: Bushleague at October 29, 2004 09:57 PM

I can see why they wouldn't like each other. They're both jerks.

Posted by: larala at October 29, 2004 09:57 PM

Sure thing okie, nice meeting you! Keep the faith, may the force be with you, and give your local stormtrooper some love. and stuff. and junk. Peaches to you!

Posted by: Liz at October 29, 2004 09:57 PM

What was that guys name, Russ Barker?

Posted by: Jake White at October 29, 2004 09:58 PM

Jeannine:
Your father is just stubbern. I have had equally heated discusions with friendas and when the debate is over we shake hands and get on with it. I do not feel that Carmine took it that hard.

Posted by: m2kfl@aol.com at October 29, 2004 09:58 PM

On Tuesday Nov 2nd: heavy turn out perhaps the biggest in memory.
About 60 million Kerry voters voting for change.

With voting strength we shall see our new President
John F. Kerry in better days

Better days are coming

John Kerry is a winner. On Nov2 we will be big winners electing John F. Kerry our 44th President of the United States.

Yes Better days are coming.

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at October 29, 2004 09:58 PM

Peaches for the weekend y'all!!!

Posted by: pezwaldo at October 29, 2004 09:58 PM

.....

CAN SOMEBODY challange CARMINE voting right?
CAN SOMEBODY challange CARMINE voting right?
CAN SOMEBODY challange CARMINE voting right?
CAN SOMEBODY challange CARMINE voting right?

CAN SOMEBODY challange CARMINE voting right?
CAN SOMEBODY challange CARMINE voting right?
CAN SOMEBODY challange CARMINE voting right?

See if he likes it.

Posted by: wanda at October 29, 2004 09:58 PM

I will be Canvassing for Kerry tomorrow and maybe Sunday, too!

Posted by: Susan at October 29, 2004 09:58 PM

Sam Seder was right on when he slammed Carmine!

Posted by: BushSucks at October 29, 2004 09:58 PM

Thank you Janeane. No More Carmine!!!

Peaches!!!!

Posted by: Mel at October 29, 2004 09:58 PM

Calling Janeane's dad an asshole is unkind. And few of you would say that to her face. disagree, but be nice. There is no need to say that to her. She does a great job, though we can all do without Carmine.

Posted by: opeluboy at October 29, 2004 09:58 PM

PEACHEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!

NO MORE CARMINE!!!!!!!!!!!!! YAHOO!!!!!!!

Posted by: Catharine at October 29, 2004 09:59 PM

Peaches pez and fellow bloggers!

Posted by: Bushleague at October 29, 2004 09:59 PM

Hit wanda again, would you?

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:59 PM

Janeane, buy Sam dinner!

Posted by: pruil at October 29, 2004 09:59 PM

Yeah NO MORE CARMINE!!!

Posted by: aka MAT at October 29, 2004 09:59 PM

PEACHES!!!!

Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 29, 2004 09:59 PM

time to watch the ifc special on farenheight 911

Posted by: m2kfl@aol.com at October 29, 2004 09:59 PM

Check out this site and see where the Repbulicans and their sycophants like Carmine would like to take the country

www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm

Posted by: frngy at October 29, 2004 09:59 PM

I will be Canvassing for Kerry tomorrow and maybe Sunday, too!
Posted by: Susan at October 29, 2004 09:58 PM

Go! Fight! Win!

Posted by: Nik E Poo at October 29, 2004 10:00 PM

Where'd you go, War Dog, you fucking coward. Come on out and defend why you need to win elections by intimidating old women. C'mon, have some balls, you piece of shit.

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:57 PM

````````````````````````````````````````````````

A liberal ...

A Kerry supporter..

A Democarat

Posted by: War Dog at October 29, 2004 10:00 PM

peaches?

Posted by: soopaj at October 29, 2004 10:00 PM

George W Bush unemployed and left to live with his own policies--"Eat Cake"

That's too good for this son of a jackass

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 10:00 PM

Peace out, Bushleague.

Posted by: pezwaldo at October 29, 2004 10:00 PM

I am an active, heterosexual male.

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum
at October 29, 2004 09:55 PM

Typical of those duped by neocon corporate fascists,
they feel if they say or hear something enough times,
it becomes true.

Posted by: Ajax at October 29, 2004 10:00 PM

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at October 29, 2004 09:48 PM

______________________

Rob, why don't you stop insulting our fighting men and women by ASSUMING how you think they will vote based on your own perceptions. It would be interesting to know if you have ever served for this country - if you have ever put your ass on the line, or prefer to make your little assumptions with your fat ass safely in front of your computer.

Half of my family has served in the military, and I currently have a cousin and my husband's cousin serving in Iraq, and there is NO love for Bush in my family. Because we know firsthand how he has wronged those in service.

But you didn't stop at insulting the intelligence of our military, who can make their OWN voting choices and not merely fall in step with the conventional "Military=Republican" line of thinking. You also insulted a decorated Vietnam War veteran by calling him "Hanoi John". The man fought and killed for his country at a time of war, and you call him "Hanoi John". And you support a man who has never put his life in danger for his country ONCE.

You piece of shit. People like you make me sick. YOU are what is wrong with this country.

Posted by: Harrumph at October 29, 2004 10:01 PM

who's sticking around? Is everyone out?

Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 29, 2004 10:01 PM

It's on .. now... IFC!!!!

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 10:01 PM

Turn on IFC if you have it.

Posted by: Mel at October 29, 2004 10:01 PM

"War Dog, you're not obliged to recieve mail, registered or not, from anybody. Much less a political party. She does live there. If you don't believe her, you fucking douchebag, file a challenge.

This is all an acknowledgement that if elections accurately reflected the will of the people, there would be no national GOP presence.

Winning elections by intimidating 62 year old woman. What a piece of shit you are.

Posted by: at October 29, 2004 09:46 PM

Say it like it is, nonick, right on!

Posted by: lefftee at October 29, 2004 10:02 PM

I'm out, Blayzn. Have a great weekend!

Posted by: pezwaldo at October 29, 2004 10:02 PM

oh, who gives a damn, Carmine isn't going to read the blog, stop being a mom dutch.

I think i'm getting tired and cranky.

Posted by: Liz at October 29, 2004 09:43 PM

Enjoy that little bit of compassion from me. if you look back at my posts from day one I'm a mean son of a bitch

Posted by: Dutch Masters at October 29, 2004 10:02 PM

He is an ASShole.

1. he said Abu graib torture was just minor event. (limbaugh line of thought)
2. He actively explain away basic budgetary number. He reject official data and never brings counter example
3. He simply doesn't care if other people can't vote.
4. His basic conception of social justice and individual right.

to put it simply, He doesn't care about people. If other people gets fuck hard, it's just as well for him. He jsut going to ignore it and explain away.

he is an ASSHOLE.

If he ever post in this blog.
I will SPAM his head with so many posts. His head will spin away.

Posted by: wanda at October 29, 2004 10:02 PM

Peaches Bushleague...I'ma go to the post show for a minute...

Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 29, 2004 10:02 PM

Hmmmmm so Janeane was right again eh?

Right about the Oedipal complex and right about the administration knowing for a fact that Iraq DID NOT have any real defenses left after the first war and subsequent arms inspections.
An d that that was why the CHOSE Iraq

Posted by: terry wilke at October 29, 2004 10:03 PM

laters Pez GOTV! PEACHES!!!

Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 29, 2004 10:04 PM

Opeluboy, it is indeed unkind to call Carmine an asshole among other less flattering things. But for him to try and justifiy and rationalize someone being denied their Constitutional rights is just not unkind but immoral.

Posted by: frngy at October 29, 2004 10:04 PM

Michael Moore on IFC

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at October 29, 2004 10:05 PM

who's sticking around? Is everyone out?

Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 29, 2004 10:01 PM

Post show Post ..... : )

Posted by: Wil at October 29, 2004 10:07 PM

Peaches all.

Remember, Osama bin Laden just thanked God for Bush's incompetence on September 11th.

If Democrats can't make anything out of that, screw 'em.

Posted by: el_cid at October 29, 2004 10:07 PM

Opeluboy, check out this site to see where the Republicans and people like Carmine would take this country!

www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm

Posted by: frngy at October 29, 2004 10:07 PM

who's sticking around? Is everyone out?
Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 29, 2004 10:01 PM

I'm here ... not that you care ... I'm breast-free.

Posted by: Nik E Poo at October 29, 2004 10:07 PM

Beside's Carmine's attitude being immoral it is also un-American and unpatriotic!

Posted by: frngy at October 29, 2004 10:09 PM

If he ever post in this blog.
I will SPAM his head with so many posts. His head will spin away.

Posted by: wanda at October 29, 2004 10:02 PM

___________

All right, Wanda, it's on. You hear me?

I said, "It's on!"

Posted by: Carmine the Tef-Spam-lon Republican at October 29, 2004 10:10 PM

I'm here ... not that you care ... I'm breast-free.

Posted by: Nik E Poo at October 29, 2004 10:07 PM

___________

Wouldn't you rather be breast-fed?

Posted by: Mammarily-Based Bloggin at October 29, 2004 10:12 PM

I find that interesting, because with the advent of electronic instruments in the 20th century, the synth can be programmed.

I believe maestro Frank Gambale's new CD has some experiments in new tuning techniques. Check it out.

If you tune a synth to play certain keys at different pitches, then your guitar synth will be slightly different. In order to technically tune "outside" the even temperment tuning scheme, you need a "Just Intonated" designed guitar.

Which means the fret wire are mathematically placed down the fretboard at un-even intervals.

Do not let this fool you. What you do is...set the guitar up with a Roland synth or something. Then remember there are only certain chords which can be played in only ONE key. The synth has the ability to pitch change to any key, any tone, at any hertz.

So if you are used to changing keys, or playing songs with a large palette of chord shapes...then you are just not getting it.

It's about layered "perfection", much like the early religious pieces of our western civilization.

The intervallic structure is "perfect". Like Bob Dylan says, sometimes less is more.

This is why medievel musicians tried to avoid the flatted B note on their lutes. Or goat bladders strung with lamb guts or whatever the f*ck they played...before keeling over from the Black Plague in the Dark Ages.

The perfect triad isn't really "diablo musica"... although...Purple Haze's intro comes close to George Bush's paranoia of micro-dot blotter acid.

Why are there so many people talking about astrology here?

Posted by: -B at October 29, 2004 10:14 PM

Carmine, War Dog, other wankers ... are aptly described in this article

The quote of choice is:

Exactly. Excellent article.

I'm disappointed that Carmine is going to remain locked in his position after all these months and I feel for Janeane. Sam was a blast, though, he really went nuclear and validly so.

The problem with the Carmine's is that they don't want to be accurate or right or reasonable, they want to continue to be suspicious, superior and convinced that the bogeyman - in this case, crazy liberals - are always waiting in the wings ready to destroy America.

After Kerry wins, the long-term effort really commences to build the leftwing institutions that will eventually marginalize the Carmine's of the world. I know people like him and love some of them. But I don't want them to be able to screw up my life or the lives of others because of their paranoia, stubborness and selfishness.

The reachable republicans have already declared themselves for Kerry. The rest are a waste of time. Some people like being brainwashed.

Posted by: Viola at October 29, 2004 10:49 PM

Frank Furt’s Speech

I will fight for the people, and hot dogs, of America. I will serve and protect the future of our country. I will do this without being the bully who picks on smaller and weaker nations. I will try to cooperate with the rest of the world. I will cut most of the money used for war, and use it at home to rebuild America which would create lots of jobs. And I will do everything possible to prevent another draft. I will reduce the cost of prescription medicine, and work to increase money that goes to schools for books, teachers, and after school activities. I believe that everybody and anybody should be able to run for president even if they’re fruit, vegetables or deli meats. That is how America’s democracy should be which it’s not right now, but it should be. I will make it easier for Canadians and Mexicans to work in the US. I would do my best to make America a better place. I will always try to protect the environment. I would make sure voting machines give you a receipt when you vote. I would make it easier for anyone to run for office in politics. I would make TV stations air political ads for free. I will fix the health care system and make it affordable to everyone. I would make college free for everyone. I will try to end poverty everywhere because that would make people happier and it would discourage some violence. I would try to make the world a fairer place, a happier place and a safer place. I would raise the minimum wage to 12 dollars an hour, I would improve environment standards and require that vehicles get better gas mileage. I will make this country the best and most respected country in the world, if you elect me I would make school days shorter, and make sure homework is easier, and have the students give the teachers tests. And I don't want to have to move to Canada or Mexico when I turn 18 just because our government wants to invade countries everywhere and probably plan to send me somewhere I've never heard of with a gun.

Posted by: Rainer, 5th Grade at October 30, 2004 01:07 AM

I absolutely don't agree with Carmine, but I enjoy the arguments between Sam and Carmine. It really points out the mentality of mindless republicans. Is there a archived stream of Sam and Carmine's exchange from this past Friday's show?

Posted by: ladyfrancesca at October 31, 2004 12:03 AM

October 29, 2004

hour three - Friday

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