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October 25, 2004

Update: Bush's incompetence arms those who kill Americans and Iraqis

this is a big story and a horrible one that exposes the Bush administration's sheer incompetence and their attempts to cover it up.

Josh Marshall quotes the Nelson Report here. follows up here. Monday paper coverage here.

Posted by majority at October 25, 2004 12:29 AM

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Amazing from Janus Online
TPM reports: Despite pressure from DOD to keep it quiet, the IAEA and the Iraqi Interim Government this month officially reported that 350-tons of dual-use, very high explosives were looted from a previously secure site in the early days of... [Read More]

Tracked on October 25, 2004 01:05 AM

Amazing from Janus Online
TPM reports: Despite pressure from DOD to keep it quiet, the IAEA and the Iraqi Interim Government this month officially reported that 350-tons of dual-use, very high explosives [RDX] were looted from a previously secure site in the early days... [Read More]

Tracked on October 25, 2004 01:31 AM

Amazing from Janus Online
TPM reports: Despite pressure from DOD to keep it quiet, the IAEA and the Iraqi Interim Government this month officially reported that 350-tons of dual-use, very high explosives [RDX] were looted from a previously secure site in the early days... [Read More]

Tracked on October 25, 2004 01:32 AM

Amazing from Janus Online
TPM reports: Despite pressure from DOD to keep it quiet, the IAEA and the Iraqi Interim Government this month officially reported that 350-tons of dual-use, very high explosives [RDX] were looted from a previously secure site in the early days... [Read More]

Tracked on October 25, 2004 02:39 AM

Amazing from Janus Online
TPM reports: Despite pressure from DOD to keep it quiet, the IAEA and the Iraqi Interim Government this month officially reported that 350-tons of dual-use, very high explosives [RDX] were looted from a previously secure site in the early days... [Read More]

Tracked on October 25, 2004 02:40 AM

Amazing from Janus Online
TPM reports: Despite pressure from DOD to keep it quiet, the IAEA and the Iraqi Interim Government this month officially reported that 350-tons of dual-use, very high explosives [RDX] were looted from a previously secure site in the early days... [Read More]

Tracked on October 25, 2004 02:41 AM

Comments

farced?

Posted by: dadalux at October 25, 2004 12:29 AM

Busey!

Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 25, 2004 12:31 AM

http://www.buseyworld.com/garypics.htm

be careful...very, very careful

Posted by: dadalux at October 25, 2004 12:33 AM

woo hoo

http://www.buseyworld.com/buseydance.gif

Posted by: dadalux at October 25, 2004 12:34 AM

Gary Busey looks like my crazy uncle!

Miss Anne, I can ask around for a good realitor
for you, if you want. Maybe the house did not
go through cause their's something better out
there for your Mom.

Posted by: Conbo at October 25, 2004 12:36 AM

Thanks Majority!

Posted by: aka MAT at October 25, 2004 12:36 AM

go through cause their's something better out
there for your Mom.

Posted by: Conbo at October 25, 2004 12:36 AM

That's what I was hoping! One never knows. How are you doing? Haning in with your Jay oh bee?

I'm waiting to get paid from mine. I worked for this new company since the end of Sept and they have not paid me yet. I emailed the guy on thursday and got no reply. I hate working for other peeps they always take advandage of their employees.

Posted by: aka MAT at October 25, 2004 12:39 AM

they haven't paid you yet?

Miss Anne, are you sure your okay?

Posted by: Conbo at October 25, 2004 12:42 AM

http://www.selvesandothers.org/

Posted by: aka MAT at October 25, 2004 12:42 AM

http://www.selvesandothers.org/

Posted by: aka MAT at October 25, 2004 12:42 AM

Ok, I been a crank this weekend.

Now, I get to be less of a turd.

Aqua Teen Hungerforce

Sea Lab 2021

and the inimitable, irascable, incredible and genious...

Harvey Birdman, ATTY at Law.

All (some reruns) gut busting super zxylarious mondo maniacal wack goody - 2 - laffs.

Raucus rolling hilarity. Brilliant distraction.

ok. I like 'em alright.

and a nighty right back atcha

Posted by: r at October 25, 2004 12:44 AM

hi rustle!
:)

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 12:45 AM

r-ustle 'o loove...

Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 25, 2004 12:46 AM

aka Mat
my e-mail is soapbxr87@yahoo.com
if you want to email me.
i'm gonna check out for awhile. see you
guys later.

Posted by: conbo at October 25, 2004 12:48 AM

Miss Anne, are you sure your okay?

Posted by: Conbo at October 25, 2004 12:42 AM

Yes Conbo, I have been through tuffer times. thank you for caring! Not many peeps outside this blog care for others. I just wish I would win the lottery so I could help others like my mom. I would be happy living in a tent if I had too but Old folks that would be a rough existence. I use to promsie her I would buy her a little house in Hawaii, but that was when I was a teenager and didn't know any better. Now I can even roof her house. I have invented so many roofing systems in my head already it's crazy.

I will figure something out. I always do!

Did you quit your job? It is hard to find work without a car. and now days you go broke owning a car. A big bad ugly circle.

Posted by: aka MAT at October 25, 2004 12:48 AM

Here's a newsflash from bizarro universe:

Kerry gains more Wall Street support

NEW YORK (CBS.MW) - As Election Day nears, Sen. John Kerry has narrowed the financial gap between himself and President Bush on Wall Street.

Kerry's campaign fund-raising efforts on the Street, headed by Citigroup's Lou Susman, are being outmatched by Bush by about 2 to 1, according to numbers released this week. But that's down from 3 to 1 in May.

The gap stands in contrast to national fund raising where Kerry, who has raised $311 million, has essentially tied the president, who has raised $338 million in donations, according to the latest data available on Opensecrets.org.

Spillover from a lackluster economy?

Despite the fact their man still lags the president, Democrats are trumpeting the Wall Street support as evidence that business has soured on the president's economic policies and the lackluster growth in the economy during the last year.

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/yhoo/story.asp?guid=%7BE9B8277E-20A0-4E8B-BB7D-577983F88201%7D&siteid=myyahoo&dist=myyahoo

Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 25, 2004 12:52 AM

Damn it I planned on stealing bush signs this evening and figured I'd better not. Not with my luck.

I have to go too! Night Conbo, Johnboy, Maryellen...

Sweet dreams everyone, PEACE!

Posted by: aka MAT at October 25, 2004 12:53 AM

Beleaguered dollar off against rivals
Market uncertainties persist about U.S. economy, election

"The clouding outlook for the U.S. economy, the uncertain pace and extent of Federal Reserve monetary policy tightening, soaring energy prices, relatively low yields, America's sizeable structural deficits and uncertainty ahead of the presidential election are at the core of the dollar's woes," said Alex Beuzelin, senior market analyst at Ruesch International.

Against the euro, the dollar fell to $1.2668 in late New York trade, from $1.2614 late Thursday. The U.S. currency traded at 107.24 yen, steering towards its largest weekly decline in five months.

Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 25, 2004 12:55 AM

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?siteid=myyahoo&dist=myyahoo&guid=%7B0968B7C8%2D6C03%2D4341%2D9024%2D2A6F92C49ABC%7D

Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 25, 2004 12:56 AM

I think the Bush Administration was so focused on finding non existent weapons of mass deception that they allowed the resistance to walk off with this large amount of high explosives. This goes down as one of the stupidest mistakes in military history. We have to insure that the media covers this and does so accurately.

Posted by: Kingfish at October 25, 2004 12:57 AM

Links to info about the RDX and HMX high explosives
that were looted from the al Qa Qaa Iraq munitions installation:


New York Times: Huge Cache of Explosives Vanished From Site in Iraq

Josh Marshall at Talking Points Memo


Other sources also noted the language of the State Department guidance, which they interpret as seeking to deflect from the gravity of the situation in two ways: first, by listing hundreds of thousands of tons of other munitions and weapons already discovered and/or destroyed, “the Guidance has the effect, for unsophisticated listeners, of lowering the profile of ‘only’ 350 tons of RDX and HMX explosives from Al Qa Qaa”.

Note: experts were reluctant to say exactly how much of this stuff it takes for a successful road side bomb, for example, but the guesstimates were “a few pounds, at most.” In other words, “with 350 tons out there, the bombing can go on for years...”

["Only" 350 tons, right? 350 x 2,000 pounds = 700,000 pounds; takes a couple of pounds to do what we see in Iraq almost every day on our TV sets -- you do the math]


Josh Puts This Huge Fuck-up Into Context: upshot, Bush-style dishonesty and incompetence once again

RMX and HMX high explosives had been under IAEA seal

What is RDX?

What is HMX?

We've come to expect fuck-up after fuck-up from Bush-Cheney, but even for these people, this is un-fucking-believable.

Posted by: dr at October 25, 2004 12:58 AM

http://www.pscelebrities.com/mrr/rd1.jpg

http://www.pscelebrities.com/mrr/rd.jpg

goodnight miss anne - romandolly told me to show you roman and dolly - there they are -

and goodnight miss a - see you next time - hope things get better for your mom
:)

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 12:59 AM

We have to hit the media hard.

Hit the media now.

and make the obvious points that the NYT article does not make.


They are using this stuff against us now.

It is Bush's fault for not sending more troops because they apparently did not have enough forces to cover this vital ammo dump.

The administration has tried to keep this from us for a year.

They have tried to suppress the reports now.

This is serious, serious, serious, serious stuf.

If the media screws this up, it's their fault too.

and the strongest point...
7. This is direct and irrefutable evidence that the invasion of Iraq has now made us LESS SAFER FROM TERRORISTS.

Posted by: Jimmy James at October 25, 2004 01:03 AM

Fun with time-stamps: like Rodney, "no respect, I tell ya, no respect."
__________

Munitions Installation filled with 350 tons of RDX and HMX high explosives Looted Over a Year and a Half Ago and Bushco have been sitting on that info ever since.

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I haven't read upblog, so can someone tell me if the story on the munitions installation being looted in Iraq has been posted?

Sounds like another monumental world-historical fuck-up from the Gang Who Can't Shoot Straight. 350 tons of high explosives (RDX and HMX) -- just gone, nobody knows where.

Put that into perspective real quick: How much of this stuff does it take for these roadside bombs that are killing Americans and Iraqis alike?

A coupla pounds. At most.

And under our "war president's" "strong and decisive" leadership, b/c Bush couldn't be fucking bothered to have enough troops to actually protect these munitions dumps, some very violent people have made off with 350 times 2000 pounds, or 700,000 pounds of high-explosives.

Even for these guys, that's astounding.

Again, a coupla pounds is all you need for much of the carnage that's being brought to bear on our troops and on the Iraqi civilians.

Un-fucking-believable. Just un-fucking-believable.

If this cache of explosives wasn't found, it's enough to last a swelling insurgency and jihadist movement for years of violent attacks.

Anyone know if this has been covered yet?

Posted by: Reality-Based Blogging at October 25, 2004 12:15 AM

Posted by: dr at October 25, 2004 01:04 AM

i'm still hoping beyond hope that the october surprise is the CIA nailing W and the incompetent opportunists to the wall

i mean, this new blunder is the worst yet...and isnt it (koff, koff) good timing that it came to light right now?

Posted by: dadalux at October 25, 2004 01:05 AM

So there she was, the nation's most powerful and popular public female, kicking butt on a recent installment of her insanely beloved TV show with the help of celeb guests (Drew Barrymore, Cameron Diaz, P. Diddy, Christina Aguilera) and galvanizing stunned women across the nation to participate in this election, or else.

There was Oprah, doing what she does so freakishly well, cheerleading and extolling and impressing upon, getting women up and getting them angry and demanding that they exercise their hard-won right to vote and demanding that they quit dissing their feminist ancestors, the ones who worked so damn hard for suffrage and for freedom of choice and for the right to tell powerful sexist Republican men where they can shove their repressive sexist antichoice bigotry.

Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 25, 2004 01:05 AM

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=225

Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 25, 2004 01:06 AM

I have a feeling that this stuff has been sent to other areas of operations. This is thing. Why do the terrorist have to strike in Iraq? They will because that is where our troops are and it easy to kill Americans there. They have an international network that hasn't even been stretched. Some of these explosives have been taken out of country and sent to other areas of the world. This is enough high explosives to supply the terrorist needs for the next ten years. They will hit world wide with this stuff, even here in the good old U.S. of A. and President Bush let them do it right before his eyes. He could have put a guard on this from day one, but just like at that school in Florida on 911 he didn't take action.

Posted by: Kingfish at October 25, 2004 01:09 AM

-- tell powerful sexist Republican men where they can shove their repressive sexist antichoice bigotry.

If bush remains, then women have failed us...

Posted by: RomanDolly at October 25, 2004 01:09 AM

guh?

Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 25, 2004 01:11 AM

TNT: 2.76 Mpsi @ 7197 m/sec velocity
RDX: 5.03 Mpsi @ 8754 m/sec velocity
HMX: 5.70 Mpsi @ 9159 m/sec velocity

9159 m/sec is about 20,500 miles per hour.

Posted by: Jimmy James at October 25, 2004 01:12 AM

ay shell...i finally got a copy of that radio show...

you still want me to send it to you?

i will mail it this week

Posted by: dadalux at October 25, 2004 01:12 AM

Well, we need to start telling the world how much this matters. This is 760,000 pounds of explosives. It's enough to make hundreds of thousands of IEDs, suicide bombs, and other wonderful things. You could put enough of this stuff in a minivan to make a bigger explosion than the OKC bombing, which used ANFO, which is less than a third as powerful. Repeat after me, enough explosives to blow up the tallest hundred buildings in the world and still have enough left for thousands of suicide attacks. Now, what the fuck were they thinking!?

Posted by: Ray Davies at October 25, 2004 01:14 AM

100 Facts and 1 Opinion
The Non-Arguable Case Against the Bush Administration
by Judd Legum

Click here to download, circulate and distribute a PDF version of this article.

IRAQ

1. The Bush Administration has spent more than $140 billion on a war of choice in Iraq.

Source: American Progress

2. The Bush Administration sent troops into battle without adequate body armor or armored Humvees.

Sources: Fox News, The Boston Globe

3. The Bush Administration ignored estimates from Gen. Eric Shinseki that several hundred thousand troops would be required to secure Iraq.

Source: PBS

4. Vice President Cheney said Americans "will, in fact, be greeted as liberators" in Iraq.

Source: The Washington Post

5. During the Bush Administration's war in Iraq, more than 1,000 US troops have lost their lives and more than 7,000 have been injured.

Source: globalsecurity.org

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20041108&s=facts

Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 25, 2004 01:15 AM

The IAEA had kept an eye on this stuff, had it under surveillance, knew where it was and how much was there, etc. And then Bush lost it. And now no one knows where it is.

Posted by: Jimmy James at October 25, 2004 01:18 AM

hey cool! yes please dadalux – thanks for doing that!
*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circle_of_fifths
In music theory, the circle of fifths is a sequence encompassing all of the notes in the equally tempered chromatic scale. Starting on any note and repeatedly ascending by the musical interval of a perfect fifth, one will eventually land on the same note, after reaching all of the other notes:
*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagorean_comma
This was supposedly invented in the sixth century B.C. by Pythagoras. It is said that Pythagoras also had the idea of tuning an instrument by fifths and thus discovered the Pythagorean comma.

When you ascend by a cycle of justly tuned perfect fifths (ratio 3:2), leapfrogging 12 times, you eventually reach a note around seven octaves above the note you started on, which, when lowered to the same octave as your starting point, is 23.46 cents higher than the initial note. This interval, 531441:524288 or approximately 1.0136:1, is called a Pythagorean comma.
*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Law_of_Fives
The Law of Fives is a principle of discordianism, as detailed in the fictional Illuminatus! Trilogy by Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson.

According to the, Principia Discordia, The Law of Fives states that All things happen in Fives, or are divisible by or are multiples of Five, or are somehow directly or indirectly appropriate to 5. It also observes that the Law of Fives is never wrong.

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 01:19 AM

5 is the number of the pentagon and, of course, the pentagram. 5 is a number of uncertainty and trouble in numerolgy and the tarot. I will arrive at your house around 5:55, shell. Happy Halloween! boohahahhhahhahahahhhaaahhhaaaa

Posted by: RomanDolly at October 25, 2004 01:28 AM

To every Republican out there.
Think about this

TNT: 2.76 Mpsi @ 7197 m/sec velocity
RDX: 5.03 Mpsi @ 8754 m/sec velocity
HMX: 5.70 Mpsi @ 9159 m/sec velocity

9159 m/sec is about 20,500 miles per hour

Add to that " 350 tons,350 x 2,000 pounds = 700,000 pounds.
Taken by Terrorist because the President didn't evey put a corporal's guard on it. Just think about it. Let this sink into your mind how screwed up this is. You are an American and this is going to touch your life to.

Posted by: Jimmy James at October 25, 2004 01:29 AM

ok rd - i was led to that stuff about 5's cuz of two posts from the other day - wiki is a giant maze i get lost in it a lot - the book that was on the kos blog the other day called The Power of Many talks about wiki's and says that they are able to be edited by anyone - so how do we know all the wikipedia stuff is accurate i wondered - he called them 'whiteboards'

the author, christian crumlish talks a lot about the howard dean campaign which janeane was involved in right - lots of websites listed in this book too - so it's good so far.


Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 01:33 AM

kingfish, blayz, dr - i'm not catching on, what happend in the news? what about explosives? i'm not comprehending the posts.

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 01:35 AM

The Trolls on other bloggs are now going on about how we are not going to take over the House. I guess they have given up on the White House and the Senate. After this bomb things hits like a bomb they will be lucky to pick up the local dog catchers office.

Posted by: Kingfish at October 25, 2004 01:35 AM

BAGHDAD, Iraq, Oct. 24 - The Iraqi interim government has warned the United States and international nuclear inspectors that nearly 380 tons of powerful conventional explosives - used to demolish buildings, produce missile warheads and detonate nuclear weapons - are missing from one of Iraq's most sensitive former military installations.

Posted by: Kingfish at October 25, 2004 01:37 AM

The huge facility, called Al Qaqaa, was supposed to be under American military control but is now a no-man's land, still picked over by looters as recently as Sunday. United Nations weapons inspectors had monitored the explosives for many years, but White House and Pentagon officials acknowledge that the explosives vanished after the American invasion last year.

Posted by: Kingfish at October 25, 2004 01:38 AM

The White House said President Bush's national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, was informed within the past month that the explosives were missing. It is unclear whether President Bush was informed. American officials have never publicly announced the disappearance, but beginning last week they answered questions about it posed by The New York Times and the CBS News program "60 Minutes."

http://atrios.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Kingfish at October 25, 2004 01:39 AM

by the way, shell, I like your bibimimi kitty page.

Posted by: rd at October 25, 2004 01:42 AM

thanks kingfish - ok that gets filed in the 'not good' category -

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 01:43 AM

Spread this to the four winds. Contact all media, esp local media. How did Bush allow this to happen? If Bush didn't know about this, why didn't he?

Posted by: Kingfish at October 25, 2004 01:44 AM

I have a feeling that this stuff has been sent to other areas of operations. This is thing. Why do the terrorist have to strike in Iraq?

They will because that is where our troops are and it easy to kill Americans there. They have an international network that hasn't even been stretched. Some of these explosives have been taken out of country and sent to other areas of the world.

This is enough high explosives to supply the terrorist needs for the next ten years. They will hit world wide with this stuff, even here in the good old U.S. of A. and President Bush let them do it right before his eyes.

He could have put a guard on this from day one, but just like at that school in Florida on 911 he didn't take action.

Posted by: Kingfish at October 25, 2004 01:09 AM

______________

bingo.

Criminal negligence at minimum.

There is no fucking excuse for this. None.

And now the bottom-up decentralized jihadist terrorist network, the one that George W. Bush fundamentally doesn't fucking understand, b/c he thinks what he's facing is a top-down state-centric decapitation strategy of a concrete number of high-value targets that he can cross off his 3-year-old list, making virtually no provision for for the escalation of jihadist recruitment that his own policies encourage not deter, multiplying problems not diminishing them, *creating terrorists faster than they can be killed, all b/c Bush hasn't the first fucking idea what he's doing besides being strong and wrong -- ever, single, time.

And now, filled to the gills with munitions that Bush couldn't be bothered to safeguard, the worldwide terrorist networks can now attack America and other countries -- and using Bush's own childishly naive and arrogant words against him -- "at a time of their own choosing."

Way to fucking go, George W. Bush. That's Bush-style leadership.

Posted by: dr at October 25, 2004 01:44 AM

380 tons is almost half a kiloton. The bombs that destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki were of the order of 10 kilotons.

Posted by: Jimmy James at October 25, 2004 01:47 AM

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 01:43 AM

Knowledge is power. I was thinking about the whole history repeating itself thingy and all the catch phrases/ comparisons to "that other empire" and that got me pondering some of the tenets of "stoicism" and the guy who made it popular, namely Marcus Aurelius (Peter O'toole played him at the beginning of Gladiator '00)- at any rate, he started developing it under circumstances similar to right now...after Pax Romana drew to a close and "the barbarian hordes" threatened that particular "empire" ring a bell?

"Constantly regard the universe as one living being, having one substance and one soul; and observe how all things have reference to one perception, the perception of this one living being; and how all things act with one movement; and how all things are the cooperating causes of all things which exist; observe too the continuous spinning of the thread and the contexture of the web. (from The Meditations"

Sadly, the past is only a prologue: http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/aurelius.htm

Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 25, 2004 02:05 AM

ya, it's called "just intonation"

its mathematically symetrical...music played in just intonation will usually sound very strange to ears accustomed to the tempered scale

harry partch made his own instruments, and used just intonation

http://musicmavericks.publicradio.org/features/essay_justintonation.html

http://musicmavericks.publicradio.org/features/feature_partch.html

the comma always reminds me of the golden ratio
http://www.oblivion.net/~ommony/writings/phi-filer/image014.jpg

and the law of fives is sarcasm at its best

and i like saying "fibonacci"

Posted by: dadalux at October 25, 2004 02:06 AM

http://www.laurel-e-hardy.it/html/download/audio/music-mp3.htm

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 02:06 AM

kingfish, blayz, dr - i'm not catching on, what happend in the news? what about explosives? i'm not comprehending the posts.

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 01:35 AM

_____________

Shell:

Like makin' maple syrup, I'll try to boil it down to its essence if I can.

Iraq was a bad idea to begin with, but Bush thought otherwise, then ginned up "popular" support, so we went.

Now, that said, if we must engage in preventive war based on tarted-up intel and a secret (and longstanding) design to bring regime change to Iraq, the very least these dishonest bastards owe our military, whose lives they are recklessly endangering, and our country and the people of Iraq is to do as professional of a job in a war of unprovoked aggression as they can.

So why does it matter about a munitions installation being looted over a year ago?

The Bush Admin. was warned repeatedly that if we were to invade Iraq, we must do so with overwhelming force. Why? Not to win the war, but to secure the country and win the peace.

We invaded Iraq with about 140K troops, when most military generals (like Shinseki) and planners called for several hundred thousand.

Why so many troops?

1. To seal the borders, so that foreign jihadists don't spill in from Saudi Arabia, Syria and Iran (as they have) and turn Iraq into a staging ground and terrorist training camp (bigger and better than Afghanistan ever dreamed of being -- in real time!). couldn't be bothered to do this. Had an ideological neocon point to prove (mostly Rumsfeld here) about a smaller, more agile force. Worked great to win the war, fucked up the peace.

2. Also, you don't want looting. It demoralizes the very sorts of people you need to form a civil government -- the moderates.

Imagine everything you ever worked for in your life (besides your life) being ruined or stolen as a foreign occupying power stood idly by for two fucking months and did absolutely nothing to stop it. Or, like Rumsfeld, said: "They're [the looters] just doing what free people do."

3. But the biggest point about troop strength is this last one. The great irony is that

Posted by: at October 25, 2004 02:10 AM

kingfish, blayz, dr - i'm not catching on, what happend in the news? what about explosives? i'm not comprehending the posts.

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 01:35 AM
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(concluded)

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3. But the biggest point about troop strength is this last one. The great irony is that we "preemptively" (preventive war, actually) invaded Iraq purportedly to keep Iraq from using WMDs on us at a time of their choosing right?

By not having enough troops, or not showing the judgment to protect this munitions installation, we've actually allowed the terrorists to equip themselves for years and years b/c we couldn't be bothered to guard a weapons site. That's one of the things troop strength is for.

Instead, we've allowed the most radical and violent people in the world, who happen to hate us, access to some of the most deadly conventional weapons in the world.

How much weaponry did steal off with? 380 tons.

There's 2,000 pounds in a ton, so 380 x 2K = 760,000 pounds.

How much of this stuff does it take to commit one of these roadside attacks that are killing so many American soldiers and Iraqi civilians? A coupla pounds. At the very most.

(So use it sparingly. After one standard attack and you've only got 759,998 pounds left.)

This stuff has been gone for over a year and nobody has the first fucking clue where it is.

Oh, that is, until after it kills an American soldier. Or maims one. Or until an Iraqi child has her arm blown off.

Then we know right where some of it is. Or was.

Upshot: Bush couldn't be bothered to secure the most basic security risk. It'd be like having an open-door policy at a nuclear facility.

It's simply boggles the mind. It's un-fucking-believable.

Bush allowed to happen what we invaded Iraq to prevent. But that's Bush-style leadership.

Strong and wrong.

Every. Single. Time.

dr

Posted by: dr at October 25, 2004 02:12 AM

dr, that about says it all. Let the nation know, make sure the media whores get it right this time!

Posted by: Kingfish at October 25, 2004 02:17 AM

It's simply boggles the mind. It's un-fucking-believable.


Nah, it's believable...when I started hearing that "hearts and minds" rhetoric I was reading Tobias Wolff's "In Pharoah's Army" at the time and it was like reading the script leading up to the Gulf of Tonkin incident (since proven patently fraudulent) to the escalation that lead up to the 10,000 day war (Vietnam) the irony in THAT is the glad handing that took place with the very regime that most of this same cast of characters who dragged us into this mess (Powell was there, so was J. Baker and the nameless corporations looking for "contractual" windfalls that come with making materiel for the conflicts (hence, military industrial complex) so what's happening now is VERY believable...get a little surplus (in this case it's financial, in the 60's it was the whole...

Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 25, 2004 02:21 AM

LBJ's Brown n Root is the same company as Cheney's Hallburton (sorry for the spelling).

Posted by: Kingfish at October 25, 2004 02:22 AM

the chords in this song go around the Circle of Fifths
http://www.megatar.com/documents/soundfiles/SailingAway-128.mp3


http://www.ventrella.com/Ideas/Harmony/harmony.html

Posted by: dadalux at October 25, 2004 02:25 AM

...civil rights high everyone was coming down from and you got the same types waiting in the wings...with Masters of the Universe-type plans. Only this time they got caught with their hands in the cookie jar due to their own hubris...oh, and thinking they had all the cracks in the media caulked...funny tho, technology provided the hole (last time it was cameras beaming images into living rooms now the Web)...d'oh...the quandary remains, however, because if dude and the "red sash gang" get in there for four more they'll really be positioned to run roughshod in the china shop...this was just a taste of the pain...I think all this "god" talk suggests plans to really "slip it to the masses" on the next pass...and we're supposed to keep our eyes to the skies waiting for the "big guy" to save us...

Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 25, 2004 02:27 AM

..but in a more positive light...I think many are FINALLY smelling what's smeared on the walls and waking up...the question is: how do we undo what's been done and what's going to be uncovered that we DON'T KNOW we'll have to undo...anyway, that's my take...here's that book by Tobias Wolff, BTW...

http://www.the-write-stuff.com.au/archives/vol-1/reviews/pharaohs-army.html

Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 25, 2004 02:30 AM

its mathematically symetrical...

-------------------------

ahh...asymetrical


forgot the "a"


the "a" changes everything

Posted by: dadalux at October 25, 2004 02:31 AM

I see now, thanks you guys- so you want this story to get out to more media then right?
*

http://www.gabesplayerpianos.org/music/rotw/
weee
*

u got it blayze – knowledge is power!
http://www.schoolhouserock.tv/
As your body grows bigger
Your mind grows flowered
It's great to learn
Cause knowledge is power!

It's Schoolhouse Rocky
That chip off the block
Of your favourite schoolhouse
Schoolhouse Rock!
*

A problem in the third section of Liber abaci led to the introduction of the Fibonacci numbers and the Fibonacci sequence for which Fibonacci is best remembered today:-

A certain man put a pair of rabbits in a place surrounded on all sides by a wall. How many pairs of rabbits can be produced from that pair in a year if it is supposed that every month each pair begets a new pair which from the second month on becomes productive?

The resulting sequence is 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, ... (Fibonacci omitted the first term in Liber abaci). This sequence, in which each number is the sum of the two preceding numbers, has proved extremely fruitful and appears in many different areas of mathematics and science. The Fibonacci Quarterly is a modern journal devoted to studying mathematics related to this sequence
*

hey marcus aurelius great stuff too blayz!

He who fears death either fears the loss of sensation or a different kind of sensation. But if thou shalt have no sensation, neither wilt thou feel any harm; and if thou shalt acquire another kind of sensation, thou wilt be a different kind of living being and thou wilt not cease to live. (from The Meditations)

After his death in Vindobona (now Vienna, Austria) on March 17, 180 the emperor's only son Commodus became Emperor and turned out to be the worst of bad rulers. (hmmmmmmm)
*

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 02:36 AM

Nah, it's believable...when I started hearing that "hearts and minds" rhetoric I was reading Tobias Wolff's "In Pharoah's Army" at the time and it was like reading the script leading up to the Gulf of Tonkin incident (since proven patently fraudulent) to the escalation that lead up to the 10,000 day war (Vietnam) the irony in THAT is the glad handing that took place with the very regime that most of this same cast of characters who dragged us into this mess (Powell was there, so was J. Baker and the nameless corporations looking for "contractual" windfalls that come with making materiel for the conflicts (hence, military industrial complex) so what's happening now is VERY believable...get a little surplus (in this case it's financial, in the 60's it was the whole...

Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 25, 2004 02:21 AM
________________

You misunderstand me. It's not as though I am unaware of existence of corrupt, cynical people who selfishly engineer our path to war.

That's not the point.

The point is that even corrupt, cynical people realize they dasn't kill the goose that lays the golden munitions eggs.

If you allow yourself to be utterly repudiated b/c you are shown to be so thoroughly incompetent that you simply cannot be trusted even when almost half the country is desperately, as the mawkish Rod Stewart song goes, "Look to Find a Reason to Believe", then your "unbelievable" incompetence will have eliminated your ability to wage all of the pretty wars you had planned.

They are not trying to fuck this thing up this badly. That's what's so unbelievable -- is that they still are.

There's a modicum of competency that these people are aware they must meet in order to preserve their power, and they cannot even attain that.

That's what's, to me, so unbelievable.

Posted by: dr at October 25, 2004 02:40 AM

Schoolhouse Rock!

OMG! When I was a kid I LOVED Lynn Abrams' voice (she sang the Preamble Song, Interplanet Janet) -- a friend of mine who works at a record company FedExed me the Box Set to those tunes last year...I was like "NO WAY!" she was like "WAY!" =)

but to stay with the "knowlege = power" theme...I read this Herman Hesse book called Siddhartha, also made into a movie (Little Buddha), that has a lot of positive thoughts for negative times...not a Bhuddist but you grab stuff where you can:

http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=65-0553208845-2

Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 25, 2004 02:43 AM

15 mins to aar on the radio in seattle!

ima going to turn my radio on... :)

i just wanted to share my joy with someone...

Posted by: soopaj at October 25, 2004 02:44 AM

"The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dogs... Sir."

Posted by: Mel at October 25, 2004 02:47 AM

That's what's, to me, so unbelievable.

Agreed! We're totally on the same page (no pun intended) I got the rhetorical nature of your post; sparked some ideas though...JG hits the nail on the head when she goes on those "lack of respect for our collective intelligence" riffs...it's galling; there's books and books just lying around with all this shite in 'em...

Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 25, 2004 02:50 AM

i know that book siddhartha - i had to read it in high school i remember, the teacher was really into that book at the time -

i agree! school house rock was really cool!
i have the remake of the songs that was done a few years ago - rock bands covered the school house rock songs - but the original ones are what have stuck in my brain for more that 30 years i guess now eh -
:)
here's the one i like the most -
*

Sufferin' 'til Suffrage

Now you have heard of Women's Rights,
And how we've tried to reach new heights.
If we're "all created equal"...
That's us too! (Yeah!)

But you will proba ... bly not recall
That it's not been too ... too long at all,
Since we even had the right to
Cast a vote. (Well!)

Well, sure, some men bowed down and called us "Mrs." (Yeah!)
Let us hang the wash out and wash the dishes, (Huh!)
But when the time rolled around to elect a president

What did they say, Sister, (What did they say?)

They said, uh, "See ya later, alligator,
And don't forget my ... my mashed potatoes,
'Cause I'm going downtown to cast my vote for president.'

Oh, we were suffering until suffrage,
Not a woman here could vote, no matter what age,
Then the 19th Amendment struck down that restrictive rule. (Oh yeah!)

And now we pull down on the lever,
Cast our ballots and we endeavor
To improve our country, state, county, town, and school.

(Tell 'em 'bout it!)

Those pilgrim women who
Who braved the boat
Could cook the turkey, but they
They could not vote.

Even Betsy Ross who sewed the flag was left behind that first election day.

(What a shame, Sisters!)

Then Susan B. Anthony (Yeah!) and Julia Howe,
(Lucretia!) Lucretia Mott, (and others!) they showed us how;

They carried signs and marched in lines
Until at long last the law was passed.

Oh, we were suffering until suffrage,
Not a woman here could vote, no matter what age,
Then the 19th Amendment struck down that restrictive rule. (Oh yeah!)

And now we pull down on the lever,Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 02:50 AM

*Lynne Ahrens...

Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 25, 2004 02:50 AM

hi mel hi soop!
new aar station - groovy!

my post messed up, oh well

hey mel! that line reminds me of every typing test i had to take for temp agencies! ick!
what are you up to tonight?

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 02:52 AM

chomsky
http://www.alternativetentacles.com/octopodes/733/MJ56Wr-gQkrBwdTgayz/Noam_Chomsky-Pacification.mp3

jello making too much sense
http://www.alternativetentacles.com/octopodes/738/MJ56Wr-gQkrBwdTgayz/Jello_Biafra-excerpt_from_The.mp3


thank you alt. tent.
http://www.alternativetentacles.com/product.php?product=472


i'm pissed off...i have this classic rock song in my head, cant remember the title or the band...arrgh!

Posted by: dadalux at October 25, 2004 02:53 AM

We're totally on the same page (no pun intended)
Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 25, 2004 02:50 AM


HAHA!

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 02:54 AM

whatever...i just like saying "fibonacci"

Posted by: dadalux at October 25, 2004 02:55 AM

This was mine:

Hey, do you know about the U.S.A.?
Do you know about the government?
Can you tell me about the Constitution?
Hey, learn about the U.S.A.


In 1787 I'm told,
our founding fathers did agree,
to write a list of principles
for keeping people free
The U.S.A. was just starting out,
a bold, brand new country,
and so our people spelled it out,
the things that we should be.


And they put those principles down on paper,
and called it the Constitution,
and it's been helping us run our country
ever since then.
The first part of the Constitution is called
the Preamble, and tells what those founding
fathers set out to do.


We the people, in order to form
a more perfect union,
establish justice,
ensure domestic tranquility,
provide for the common defense,
promote the general welfare and
secure the blessings of liberty
to ourselves and our posterity
do ordain and establish this Constitution,
for the United States of America.


In 1787 I'm told
Our founding fathers all sat down
And wrote a list of principles
that's know the world around.
The U.S.A. was just starting out,
a bold, brand new country,
And so our people spelled it out,
they wanted a land of liberty.


And the Preamble goes like this: (repeat preamble).

http://funnies.paco.to/SchoolHouseRock.html#preamble

Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 25, 2004 02:56 AM

be bold
and close 'em

Posted by: at October 25, 2004 02:57 AM

3 minutes!

(i hope i have it on the right station!)

Posted by: soopaj at October 25, 2004 02:59 AM

Hi Shell... I've been playing with my computers all day.

I bought a new laptop and I'm going to create a wireless network in my place. I just need to pick up a new network card for my PC.

I thought my keyboard wasn't working because it's been acting up, so I typed that old gem. That consequently reminded me of the movie Stripes with Bill Murray.

I am going to buy a digital camera tomorrow and begin to post some photos on my website.

Also I was reprograming my Palm to download News and sports.

Watched Football and Baseball today and there were some good games.

I've been trying to take my mind off of the election. I wish it were here already.

Posted by: Mel at October 25, 2004 03:00 AM

if you dont know how to close your tags, please stop fucking with the html

i have no problem with the way dr uses html

please stop fucking around! i beseech you muthereffers!

Posted by: dadalux at October 25, 2004 03:00 AM

what part of italy did your family come from dadalux? mine is from lucca

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 03:04 AM

SMOKE FREE IN THREE!

SMOKE FREE IN THREE!

on my RADIO!

Posted by: soopaj at October 25, 2004 03:06 AM

who did html on this thread? i don't see any.

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 03:06 AM

bari

Posted by: dadalux at October 25, 2004 03:06 AM

UNFILTERED!!!!

k.
time for bed.

(they started early... missed the switchover... had the radio turned down cuz the old station sucked ass...

i have aar on my radio!

*jumps around happyclapping*

Posted by: soopaj at October 25, 2004 03:07 AM

I'm gonna "pahk da cah in hahvahd yahd" gotta early morning...nice to read you'se guys 'n goils - I keed, I keed...Laters...BUSEY!!!

Posted by: BlayznSddlz at October 25, 2004 03:08 AM

funny thing tho... no mention of the new station last friday or on the site...

no local coverage either...

Posted by: soopaj at October 25, 2004 03:08 AM

goin to bed
*hug*

love yall!

nightynite!

*i have aar on my raaaadio!*

!@#*glee*#@!

Posted by: soopaj at October 25, 2004 03:10 AM

nite, blayzn!

bush with special guest busey!!!!
http://www.thetoiletonline.com/leaveit.htm

Posted by: dadalux at October 25, 2004 03:10 AM

oh yeah mel you got a laptop! that's too cool - so you can sit anywhere you want to now - oh give me your website then too -

about wireless - we can get it at my house now but in the contract it says i have to pay like 20 dollars if i go over and above 1000mb - i'm not sure if i can abide by that, so i don't want to sign it yet til i know more - it seems like a lot more than i do, but i don't know how to gauge that - it's probably a trap to screw me over - why do contracts have to be so lame like that? how much is wireless gonna be for you mel? my guy wants 50.00 a month.

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 03:16 AM

good night blayz - good night soop!
:)

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 03:17 AM

"pahk da cah in hahvahd yahd

LMAO!! i love that!

i think of ben affleck when he was on it - too funny! good night!
:)

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 03:19 AM

eya shell, dada

evening, nice quiet nite here

all asleep with each other

me finishing up a few

things... Dada is

there a universal

html 'closer'?

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 25, 2004 03:22 AM

great find, shell!!
http://www.gabesplayerpianos.org/music/rotw/

i like playing two at the same time

Posted by: dadalux at October 25, 2004 03:22 AM

i'm pissed off...i have this classic rock song in my head, cant remember the title or the band...arrgh!
Posted by: dadalux at October 25, 2004 02:53 AM

sometimes you can put some of the lyrics in a search and it might find the song you want maybe -

hi sunshine! it's been too long! howz trix?

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 03:24 AM

me too but real player sux because it won't find and play all the files as easily as media player 10 does - i like playing both players and then adding that noosphere site that thumps

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 03:25 AM

i didn't know that a people's history was written so long ago and updated - that's a very large book

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 03:27 AM

ay, jim

finally sent that early fz cd to you...should be there early this week

----

The first and last tags in a document should always be the HTML tags. These are the tags that tell a Web browser where the HTML in your document begins and ends. The absolute most basic of all possible Web documents is:

begin with: <*HTML*>

end with: <*/HTML*>

just remove the stars. That's it

---

Posted by: dadalux at October 25, 2004 03:27 AM

trix is exquisite shell!

you're gonna like what i'm

workin on in the jewelry lab.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 25, 2004 03:27 AM

silver pieces sj?

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 03:28 AM

i would always forget to close it

thats why i dont use any html

Posted by: dadalux at October 25, 2004 03:28 AM

how much is wireless gonna be for you mel? my guy wants 50.00 a month.

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 03:16 AM

I don't know enough about technical stuff to know what you are talking about.

I'm just setting up a home network to share an internet connection when I'm home. And I'm gonna make it wireless so I can surf the net in any chair I want to.

I'm supposed to be writing so I got the laptop so that I could change location and write. In a coffee shop or a park or I don't know. Also there are a lot of hot spots in the city so I can log on to the internet from a park or a coffee shop. I just hope that getting out of the house helps my writing.

Here's to finding my muse.

Posted by: Mel at October 25, 2004 03:28 AM

i'll drink to that

Posted by: dadalux at October 25, 2004 03:30 AM

think if somebody did'nt

end an HTML riff <*/HTML*>

what close it off in every case?

(i'm trying to find a universal closer)

(i'll settle for a closer universe)

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 25, 2004 03:32 AM

oh ya

silver always one

of the elements of my designs

(by the way i teach folks too)

latest piece Argilite(sacred

haida stone) MOP and silver

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 25, 2004 03:36 AM

i'll bet that will help you mel because i get sick of sitting in the same place - i have a crappy laptop but haven't set it up all the way yet - i also have wires so i can make the screen of my pc show on my tv - and that reminds me since pierce is asleep now i'm gonna try hooking that up - i think you'll be much more inspired mel when you can move around -

dadalux do you need my address for that cd?

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 03:37 AM

No Jim as far as I know you have to close the corresponding tag with its own end tag. (if that makes any sense)

Posted by: Mel at October 25, 2004 03:38 AM

those are great things to work with sj - my aunt who passed away used to make a lot of jewelry too - i have some pretty solid cuff bracelets she made - also she made necklaces with reconstituted amber and the like agate and all that - she could sell her necklaces for 100 dollars at home parties - but they never did well on ebay for some reason.

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 03:39 AM

Jim,

RE: the excessive hand-wringin' of earlier today


I found out belatedly that I didn't fuck anything up today at all (least not w/html). I thought I did b/c my display was wigging out, making all of the display type over-large and bold.

I presumed that happened to everyone, b/c it occurred just after I had posted some html.

I make a habit a savin' my preview post in its entirety, just as a precaution (if your post is overlong, course, you can have a problem not b/c you didn't format proper, I is found, but b/c you was cut off in mid-post with some h-teemies still engaged). So I must a went over that fucker 25 times trying to figure out what it were I was missing and when I left, I was a hang-dog low feelin' fellow.

Looking back on it, I should asked if it was affecting others, b/c it woulda been natural to have several folks screamin' bloody murder, blog thread bein' fucked upon beyond all recognition (fubar), but everyone was so calm and foregoing (I thought, these is some damn nice folks here, take it all around, but no one's *that* nice).

Somehow it didn't occur to me to ask, prolly cause I's embarrassed about what I thought I'd done.

Anyways, thought the whole brouhaha was sorta funny, my own tempest in a teapot, and all my wailin' and gnashin' of teeth warn't nothin' to match even a hill 'o beans in this here crazy world. That's funny.

(Took a load off my mind, too, by and by.)

Good night, all.

dr

Posted by: dr at October 25, 2004 03:39 AM

Zappa!

my ol fave!

u 2 kind dada!

extremely pleased

and anticipating the listening!

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 25, 2004 03:41 AM

good night dr!

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 03:42 AM

ya dr, saw it

actually wanted

to ask u what was

the fix on yer machine?

browser preference hot keyed

accidently? happens to me

occasionally with 'mouse

moves' enabled.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 25, 2004 03:47 AM

Wow Shelly you sure know a lot about computers and such. I only recently purchased my first computer this millenium. I'm a lot like Janeane in that respect. I'm even breaking down and going digital with my photography. I was the last person I knew to get a cd player when they came out. I think I feared technology. Now I'm all crazy for the newest piece of crap.

Posted by: Mel at October 25, 2004 03:47 AM

i used to be in tech support and help desk for a living mel, i'm far behind now though except for my own troubleshooting and stuff - i was on aol 1.0 when there was one unfilled chat room - now i'm just trying to keep up

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 03:53 AM

The Venture Brothers is so good.

Posted by: Mel at October 25, 2004 03:55 AM

gryffon playing a lyre
http://www.gabesplayerpianos.org/Mindspring/cig.gif

mp3
http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-details-db.php?collection=other_minds&collectionid=ConlonNancarrowOdeToGravity&from=landingReviews

http://sonhors.free.fr/images/bio_sonhors/trautonium.jpg


in a shentimental mood, played by art tatum
http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/199710/29_bakera_nancarrow/rafiles/971029_tatummood_28.ram

Posted by: dadalux at October 25, 2004 03:55 AM

you'll love the camera - you could probably save money and get an older model olympus maybe - ours is even overkill for what we do on ebay and we bought it in 2000 - it's an olympus d450 - we paid 320 - but you can probably get a cheap one of those now - the newest ones are pretty cool though - i'd like to have one with the few seconds of video on it though - cats are funner when you can see them moving around - not just sleeping
:)

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 03:55 AM

ya shell

what i enjoy is face to face customers

and custom commissions, more interesting

for me and i get a lotta time to doodle

while i'm banging away at things.

lot happening in Oregon and

Washington state i hear.

they ain't gonna go

easy is a common

thought there.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 25, 2004 03:57 AM

maybe halliburton 'liberated' the explosives so they could resell them to "demolition companies"

link: http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBETIJQL0E.html

Posted by: blogslut at October 25, 2004 04:00 AM

you make fun posts dada - i think almost all my music has come from you now - you should see all the images you've posted playing in a slide show - real cool!

i still have three calum puzzles to do before the show tomorrow - gaelic is real hard to get

*

and btw i found two nasty articles about the lovely janeane yesterday but didn't post them - people must be afraid of her - lots of strong reactions to her i noticed

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 04:00 AM

sj - do you wanna tell now why we aren't storming the gates? our conversation from the other day. do you remember?

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 04:02 AM

Thats cool Shell. Geek girls rock. I used to be into computers in the late seventies early eighties but then I went to art school and everything was by hand and eye... no wires.

Posted by: Mel at October 25, 2004 04:04 AM

see that's a trip mel, i wasn't into anything art-like really until the blog - so you're cool since you can think both ways like that - i was really all one way for a long time - i mean i made some crafty stuff but not the better understanding of it all like i do now -

one of these days i wanna make you one of the stuffed cats i sew mel - i'll take a pic of the giant one i made too so you can see - i make small ones also and embroider their faces differently on each one - they're cute i think. maybe you'll like it too - the large ones make great door stops

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 04:09 AM

maybe halliburton 'liberated' the explosives so they could resell them to "demolition companies"


hahahahahaha!

goddammer blogslut, knowing them, you probably just came pretty close to the truth

Posted by: dadalux at October 25, 2004 04:10 AM

sure shell

lotta reasons currently

illegality on several surface levels

fear of death or apprehension for crimes

against the state on other levels

and mainly cuzz it is'nt time

yet to do it. timing is

everything in this case.

have u ever studied rebellions?

we have the right and the ability

to change things when neccessary, it

helps to think things thru carefully first.

we need to be innovative to escape the

vicious circle. also bear in mind

most are asleep at the wheel.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 25, 2004 04:11 AM

**goddammer blogslut, knowing them, you probably just came pretty close to the truth**

how else we gonna fight them covert wars? :)

Posted by: blogslut at October 25, 2004 04:18 AM

interesting sj -
no i haven't ever studied rebellions -
i just feel frustrated that they get
away with so much and we seem to just sit
here and take it - it gets old and wears on me
so since i'm not known for being patient
i'd like to just storm the whole place and
fire everyone - yesterday.

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 04:18 AM

I have this website that I was going to post pictures on but all that is there right now is a picture of me. I need to get back to taking pictures. It's been awhile...

Posted by: Mel at October 25, 2004 04:25 AM

it moves fast sometimes shell

and slowly as she goes most times.

ideas and concepts need time to grow

and take root. web allows peeps access to

what before was hidden for most.

we ain't typical kiddoo. we

here are on the cutting

edge compared to most.

and we aint even

toddlers compared

to some. remember me

saying i study the exceptions?

main thing is learn patience and

don't let em take away the love in

your heart no matter what, and

enjoy the mysteries of life!

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 25, 2004 04:27 AM

the one under your name right mel? i've had that one for a long time - i looked at it in july i think - that's i think why i thought you were still doing computer stuff i think, from something on that site of yours - my friend who's black and white work you saw on her yahoo group the other day, she is also trying to break into professional photography - is that what you'd like to do our just for fun mel?

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 04:29 AM

is there a clip of jg and sam on the scarborough show anywhere?
*

i love how you write sj - patience could be a lifelong probbie for me i think that's why i live with a procrastinator maybe? we balance out ha!

and yes, i think that power of many book says that only 10% of the people are on the internet, that's not a lot -
http://x-pollen.com/many/?Open
http://www.thepowerofmany.net/

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 04:45 AM

Shell... i have been doing photography since I was 8. i had my first show when i was 12. That was my profession until i just burned out on it after too many hours in the darkroom. I did the cover of GQ magazine 3 months in a row but mostly I did book covers and work for Annie Leibowitz. Never digital ever...

But that was a lifetime ago and I want to pick up a camera and see what I get. Digital wasn't my idea but that's what I'm going to do. We'll see what happens. Last time I held a camera I was at a wedding and my bestfriend begged me so I obliged and it was fun. That was video and I took some disposable shots. (not to toot my own horn but he had hired a team of so called pros and my handheld stuff blew their stuff away)

Your friend is very talented Shell. I bookmarked her site and some other photo galleries online. I'm hoping along with the laptop it will wake me the fuck up...

Posted by: Mel at October 25, 2004 04:48 AM

good nite and sweet dreams u 2

and everyone else out there

in bloggiesvania. i gonna

snuggle up with my pack

and read myself to a

nice snoozarino.

nitey night, may

the gods smile on u all!

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 25, 2004 04:48 AM

Godnight Sunshine Jim.

Posted by: Mel at October 25, 2004 04:50 AM

Good God

Posted by: Mel at October 25, 2004 04:51 AM

Posted by: Mel at October 25, 2004 04:48 AM

Shell... i have been doing photography since I was 8. i had my first show when i was 12. That was my profession until i just burned out on it after too many hours in the darkroom. I did the cover of GQ magazine 3 months in a row but mostly I did book covers and work for Annie Leibowitz. Never digital ever...

*TOO COOL MEL!! - which gq's? i'd LOVE to see them! and annie! whatever! she's the greatest! i know someone who was in a vanity fair spread she did about the hispanics that worked in the clinton administration. wow! how were you able to get hooked up with her?*

But that was a lifetime ago and I want to pick up a camera and see what I get. Digital wasn't my idea but that's what I'm going to do. We'll see what happens. Last time I held a camera I was at a wedding and my bestfriend begged me so I obliged and it was fun. That was video and I took some disposable shots. (not to toot my own horn but he had hired a team of so called pros and my handheld stuff blew their stuff away)

*then you must be really good mel, and i think you'll go nuts with digital too!*

Your friend is very talented Shell. I bookmarked her site and some other photo galleries online. I'm hoping along with the laptop it will wake me the fuck up...

*hey for a professional like you to say that about jenine that's way cool and i will tell her so next time i speak with her, (assuming her phone is still hooked up hee hee) - i know that she's been working on a book about comedians with naomi odenkirk - not sure where it stands lately though - i should call her soon*
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good night sunshine jim - i love you too! see you tomorrow! sleep snuggly wuggly!
:)

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 05:00 AM

if you aren't gone dadalux - did you ever hear from nebulous? i haven't.

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 05:01 AM

mel i'll be back in a few - it's morning shower time for me.

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 05:10 AM

love fear humor

This "world" is only an illusion and we can change it any time we want.

It's just a choice right now between fear
and love.

Please remember...

Sink your weight. Bend your knees. Elbows tucked in. Feet shoulders length apart. Back straight. Chin up. Weight evenly distributed between feet. Feel the pins and needles at the bottom of your feet as you sink your weight and pull the energy upwards and through you...and ultimately out you.

aliens living at the center of the earth

Al Atcote

alatcote

I get my inspiration from sinking my weight and pulling energy out of the earth. I only today concluded that what is happening is that I am sitting at the center of the universe (my universe?) whatever...and the energy I'm pulling up out of the earth, and then up my ass (spine?)whatever...an alien is blowing smoke up my ass,...which ultimately is giving me inspiration,...and when I start to move, I call that chi. I feel a pulling of the energy up out the top of my head and it feels like a puppet string...but it keeps my posture solid and I still keep my weight sunk even as I am very much on point and keeping my line covered. If I recall the smoke being blown up my ass is coming from a leaf blower. Toro.

love fear humor I love fear humor.

Posted by: my guardian angels at October 25, 2004 05:13 AM

wow! how were you able to get hooked up with her?*
Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 05:00 AM

I worked for an agency and we had a lot of clients. So everything I did professionally was with a group of people. That's the way it works. Or it used to work. Annie Liebowitz is a hack. Everyone around her is so much more talented than she is. (I'm sorry) There are a lot of famous creative people who fit that mold. They put their name on other peoples work. I was never the guy with his name on the finished product but I still worked my ass off. One day I told them I was going out for orange juice and I never came back. (I left a very well paying job to play guitar in the street for money... just kidding) I was overworked and overpaid. (That was what we used to say)

Posted by: Mel at October 25, 2004 05:19 AM

Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. The fearful are caught as often as the bold.
--Helen Keller

A life lived in fear is a life half lived.
--Spanish proverb

You don't face your fears, you stand up to them.
--Unknown

Fear not that your life will someday end. Fear only that you do nothing with it.
--Unknown

Posted by: love at October 25, 2004 05:20 AM

If a man harbors any sort of fear, it makes him landlord to a ghost.
--Lloyd Douglas

We promise according to our hopes and perform according to our fears.
--Francois, Duc de La Rochefoucauld (1613-1680)

As we are liberated from our own fear our presence automatically liberates others.
--Marianne Williamson - "Our Deepest Fear" from her book "A Return To Love" 1994 inaugural speech.

Worry is a sustained form of fear caused by indecision.
--Brian Tracy

The key to change . . . is to let go of fear.
--Rosanne Cash

Even though you may want to move forward in your life, you may have one foot on the brakes. In order to be free, we must learn how to let go. Release the hurt. Release the fear. Refuse to entertain your old pain. The energy it takes to hang onto the past is holding you back from a new life. What is it you would let go of today?
--Mary Manin Morrissey author

Posted by: more love at October 25, 2004 05:23 AM

Fear; if allowed free rein, would reduce all of us to trembling shadows of men, for whom only death could bring release
--John M. Wilson

We will not be driven by fear into an age of unreason.
--Edward R. Murrow

Posted by: love trumps fear at October 25, 2004 05:23 AM

Neither a lofty degree of intelligence nor imagination nor both together go to the making of genius. Love, love, love, that is the soul of genius.
--Mozart

Love teaches even asses to dance.
--French Proverb

Generally, by the time you are Real, most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all, because once you are Real you can't be ugly, except to people who don't understand.
--Margery Williams The Velveteen Rabbit

Love your enemies. It really pisses them off!
--Unknown

Posted by: love again at October 25, 2004 05:25 AM

Put love first. Entertain thoughts that give life And when a thought or resentment, or hurt, or fear comes your way, have another thought that is more powerful -- a thought that is love.
--Mary Manin Morrissey

We must love one another or die
--W.H. Auden poem - September 1, 1939

Posted by: bright eyes at October 25, 2004 05:27 AM

May you live as long as you wish and love as long as you live.
--Robert A. Heinlein Time Enough for Love. (He may have gotten it elsewhere.)

Posted by: Joseph Stiglitz at October 25, 2004 05:28 AM

You never lose by loving. You always lose by holding back.
--Barbara DeAngelis

Posted by: Oberst at October 25, 2004 05:29 AM

If you have it [love], you don't need to have anything else, and if you don't have it, it doesn't matter much what else you have.
--Sir James M. Barrie

Posted by: say yes to love at October 25, 2004 05:30 AM

It is not how much we do, but how much love we put in the doing. It is not how much we give, but how much love we put in the giving.
--Mother Teresa

Posted by: at October 25, 2004 05:31 AM

Have you seen Ann Coulter's latest Anti semetic remark? CHeck this out:

from anncoulter.org

There's no consensus position, but the Democrats are pretty sure the real reason we went to Iraq was one of the following:
*
Bush family's connections to the Saudis,
*
Halliburton,
*
the Carlyle Group,
*
something about the Texas Rangers needing more left-handed pitching,
*
the neoconservatives,
*
the Straussians,
*
oil,
*
the Jews,
*
oily Jews

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what does Ann mean by Oily Jews...? I don't think this a complement.

Posted by: Steve Spears at October 25, 2004 05:31 AM

Hatred paralyzes life; love releases it. Hatred confuses life; love harmonizes it. Hatred darkens life; love illumines it
--Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. (1929-1968)

When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall - think of it, ALWAYS.
--Mahatma Gandhi

Posted by: george bush eats poop at October 25, 2004 05:32 AM

i'm glad you came back while i'm here angel love because i was thinking that the blog might think that you are me, which clearly you are not. however you sound like a like minded person, is it possible that you drank some of the same kool aid as i did?
:)
*

I was overworked and overpaid. (That was what we used to say)
Posted by: Mel at October 25, 2004 05:19 AM

now there's one i haven't ever heard! that's pretty bold to walk off a job like that - i've thought of it enough, but never could do it - musta felt great! so annie is in the thomas kincaide realm eh? interesting info mel-i never even picture (pun) her with a large staff, that's how fooled she had me! ha!


Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 05:33 AM

When cheese gets it's picture taken, what does it say?


When someone asks you, A penny for your thoughts, and you put your two cents in, what happens to the other penny?


If lawyers are disbarred and clergymen defrocked, doesn't it follow that electricians can be delighted, musicians denoted?


When someone is impatient and says, "I haven't got all day," I always wonder, How can that be? How can you not have all day?


I thought about how mothers feed their babies with tiny little spoons and forks so I wondered, what do Chinese mothers use? Toothpicks?


If a pig loses its voice, is it disgruntled?


What if there were no hypothetical questions?


Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck.


Some national parks have long waiting lists for camping reservations. When you have to wait a year to sleep next to a tree, something is wrong.


Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish, and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day.

Posted by: The gospel according to Carlin at October 25, 2004 05:34 AM

Before they invented drawing boards, what did they go back to?


Procrastination is the art of keeping up with yesterday.


Why do croutons come in airtight packages? It's just stale bread to begin with.


I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who believe it.


May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house.


Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?


If the #2 pencil is the most popular, why is it still #2?


I think it would be interesting if old people got anti-Alzheimer's disease where they slowly began to recover other people's lost memories.


Electricity is really just organized lightning.


Women like silent men, they think they're listening.


Posted by: The George who is not a retarded monkey at October 25, 2004 05:35 AM

"I am" is reportedly the shortest sentence in the English language. Could it be that "I do" is the longest sentence?


Men are from Earth, women are from Earth. Deal with it.


If all the world is a stage, where is the audience sitting?


Well, if crime fighters fight crime and fire fighters fight fire, what do freedom fighters fight? They never mention that part to us, do they?


Honesty may be the best policy, but it's important to remember that apparently, by elimination, dishonesty is the second-best policy.


I recently went to a new doctor and noticed he was located in something called the Professional Building. I felt better right away.


Why is the man (or woman) who invests all your money called a broker?


I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death.


There's no present. There's only the immediate future and the recent past.


At a formal dinner party, the person nearest death should always be seated closest to the bathroom.


As a matter of principle, I never attend the first annual anything.


The very existence of flame-throwers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done.


Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time.


Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.


I think it's the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.


The only good thing ever to come out of religion was the music.


Religion convinced the world that there's an invisible man in the sky who watches everything you do. And there's 10 things he doesn't want you to do or else you'll go to a burning place with a lake of fire until the end of eternity. But he loves you! ...And he needs money! He's all powerful, but he can't handle money!

Posted by: me again at October 25, 2004 05:36 AM

The true author of the piece is Dr. Bob Moorehead, former pastor of Seattle's Overlake Christian Church. (He retired in 1998). The essay appeared under the title "The Paradox of Our Age" in Words Aptly Spoken, Dr. Moorehead's 1995 collection of prayers, homilies, and monologues used in his sermons and radio broadcasts:

The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings but shorter tempers, wider freeways, but narrower viewpoints. We spend more, but have less, we buy more, but enjoy less. We have bigger houses and smaller families, more conveniences, but less time. We have more degrees but less sense, more knowledge, but less judgment, more experts, yet more problems, more medicine, but less wellness.

We drink too much, smoke too much, spend too recklessly, laugh too little, drive too fast, get too angry, stay up too late, get up too tired, read too little, watch TV too much, and pray too seldom. We have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values. We talk too much, love too seldom, and hate too often. We've learned how to make a living, but not a life.

We've added years to life not life to years. We've been all the way to the moon and back, but have trouble crossing the street to meet a new neighbor. We conquered outer space but not inner space. We've done larger things, but not better things. We've cleaned up the air, but polluted the soul. We've conquered the atom, but not our prejudice. We write more, but learn less. We plan more, but accomplish less. We've learned to rush, but not to wait. We build more computers to hold more information, to produce more copies than ever, but we communicate less and less.

These are the times of fast foods and slow digestion, big men and small character, steep profits and shallow relationships. These are the days of two incomes but more divorce, fancier houses, but broken homes. These are days of quick trips, disposable diapers, throwaway morality, one night stands, overweight bodies, and pills that do everything from cheer, to quiet, to kill. It is a time when there is much in the showroom window and nothing in the stockroom. A time when technology can bring this letter to you, and a time when you can choose either

Posted by: Dr. Bob Moorehead at October 25, 2004 05:38 AM

Shell don't quote me on tht Annie Liebowitz stuff I just did her darkroom work. But she's the only photographer to ever ask me to try to tighten the focus on something she already shot. What a joke. She has to do nothing but point the camera in the general direction of the subject and focus. Everything else is done for her. She couldn't even focus. And the industry is filled with people who know what they don't want but not what they want. They all use computers now so they can abuse them.

Posted by: Mel at October 25, 2004 05:43 AM

Dear readers,

Today's column tells a terribly important story that the media is ignoring. Please forward it to as many people as you can.

Sincerely,
Robert Scheer

THE 9/11 SECRET IN THE CIA'S BACK POCKET
The Agency is withholding a damning report that points at senior officials

October 19, 2004 -- It is shocking: The Bush administration is suppressing a CIA report on 9/11 until after the election, and this one names names. Although the report by the inspector general's office of the CIA was completed in June, it has not been made available to the congressional intelligence committees that mandated the study almost two years ago.

"It is infuriating that a report which shows that high-level people were not doing their jobs in a satisfactory manner before 9/11 is being suppressed," an intelligence official who has read the report told me, adding that "the report is potentially very embarrassing for the administration, because it makes it look like they weren't interested in terrorism before 9/11, or in holding people in the government responsible afterward."

When I asked about the report, Rep. Jane Harman (D-Venice), ranking Democratic member of the House Intelligence Committee, said she and committee Chairman Peter Hoekstra (R-Mich.) sent a letter 14 days ago asking for it to be delivered. "We believe that the CIA has been told not to distribute the report," she said. "We are very concerned."

According to the intelligence official, who spoke to me on condition of anonymity, release of the report, which represents an exhaustive 17-month investigation by an 11-member team within the agency, has been "stalled." First by acting CIA Director John McLaughlin and now by Porter J. Goss, the former Republican House member (and chairman of the Intelligence Committee) who recently was appointed CIA chief by President Bush.

The official stressed that the report was more blunt and more specific than the earlier bipartisan reports produced by the Bush-appointed Sept. 11 commission and Congress.

"What all the other reports on 9/11 did not do is point the finger at individuals, and give the how and what of their responsibility. This rep

Posted by: Jon Stewart, we need help with this one. The media's killin' me at October 25, 2004 05:45 AM

"What all the other reports on 9/11 did not do is point the finger at individuals, and give the how and what of their responsibility. This report does that," said the intelligence official. "The report found very senior-level officials responsible."

By law, the only legitimate reason the CIA director has for holding back such a report is national security. Yet neither Goss nor McLaughlin has invoked national security as an explanation for not delivering the report to Congress.

"It surely does not involve issues of national security," said the intelligence official.

"The agency directorate is basically sitting on the report until after the election," the official continued. "No previous director of CIA has ever tried to stop the inspector general from releasing a report to the Congress, in this case a report requested by Congress."

None of this should surprise us given the Bush administration's great determination since 9/11 to resist any serious investigation into how the security of this nation was so easily breached. In Bush's much ballyhooed war on terror, ignorance has been bliss.

The president fought against the creation of the Sept. 11 commission, for example, agreeing only after enormous political pressure was applied by a grass-roots movement led by the families of those slain.

And then Bush refused to testify to the commission under oath, or on the record. Instead he deigned only to chat with the commission members, with Vice President Dick Cheney present, in a White House meeting in which commission members were not allowed to take notes. All in all, strange behavior for a man who seeks reelection to the top office in the land based on his handling of the so-called war on terror.

In September, the New York Times reported that several family members met with Goss privately to demand the release of the CIA inspector general's report. "Three thousand people were killed on 9/11, and no one has been held accountable," 9/11 widow Kristen Breitweiser told the paper.

The failure to furnish the report to Congress, said Harman, "fuels the perception that no one is being held accountable. It is unacceptable that we don't have [the report]

Posted by: continued...Jon, you still there? at October 25, 2004 05:47 AM

George Bush eats Hitler's poop.

Posted by: It's true, I saw him do it at October 25, 2004 05:48 AM

Shell are you still there?

Posted by: Mel at October 25, 2004 05:51 AM

yep i'm here - i think i'm ok - did you survive another hit from the masked blogger?

sure picks things up when it gets slow here - but it's shocking -

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 05:53 AM

http://noosphere.princeton.edu/

remember this site mel?

geez, you and i have been together all night for months now mel huh! i'm listening to spoken rap type poetry, with chanting tibetan monks, with the noosphere chiming too - sounds really cool -

are you watching or listening to anything now mel?

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 05:58 AM

Straussians

hey steve spears - now i'm gonna have to look this word up since i've seen it twice now on the blog in one week.

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 06:00 AM

Yeah Shell I'm watching BBC world news on BBC America.

Posted by: Mel at October 25, 2004 06:03 AM

http://www.broenink-art.nl/anneke/Elfwood%20pictures/Guardian%20Angel%202.jpg

i don't think you're a link followin sorta guy mel, but ya gotta see this one imo - it's h-o-t hot!
:)

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 06:11 AM

That's good artwork there shell. I have so many artist friends or acquaintances or old classmates. It's good to network. A few years back I sent a few long lost friends photos I'd taken of them and people they knew by mail. I got calls from people in tears over the gift. Sending them an envelope full of memories without asking first.

Posted by: Mel at October 25, 2004 06:17 AM

I have a slow computer so I have to be sure a link isn't going to download a music file or video. It clogs up my processor and freezes me out. So I usually wait to hear peoples reviews of the link before opening. Except for jpegs and gifs those are no problem. And of course web pages and stories. But no as a rule I don't just click on a link because it's there unless I know the poster has good taste or Unless I'm really bored.

Posted by: Mel at October 25, 2004 06:21 AM

that's a real thoughtful gift

i have a photo of two guy friends
from high school at the beach, one looks
like mick jagger and one looks like jimi hendrix and they're both shirtless and in great shape in the pic - so i emailed it to them a few years ago and they were also really happy to get it -

i rarely take a good photo so i hate thinking of all the bad photos that others might have of me sometimes - do you have any of your photography work in your computer mel, or not til you get this new camera?

can you think of the best present you ever got mel?

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 06:25 AM

i'm a major link a holic - i only started redoing my bookmarks in august i think and i already have almost 3,000 now

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 06:28 AM


"The philosopher who, transcending the sphere of moral or political things, engages in the quest for the essence of all beings, has to give an account of his doings by answering the question 'why philosophy?' That question cannot be answered but with a view to the natural aim of man which is happiness, and in so far as man is by nature a political being, it cannot be answered but within a political framework."
Leo Strauss (1899-1973)

http://www.straussian.net/

http://www2.bc.edu/~wilsonop/freedom.jpg

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 06:31 AM

No I don't have any of my photos on my computer. It will be pretty expensive to transfer them all to disk. I was thinking about just doing my working portfolio but I don't think it's worth the money right now. I wanna take new pics anyway.

Posted by: Mel at October 25, 2004 06:31 AM

do you have a subject that you prefer to shoot mel?

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 06:32 AM

http://www2.bc.edu/~wilsonop/linksb.html
political philosophy links it sez

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 06:36 AM

Best gift I ever received? That's a tough question. I don't know. It's better to give than receive, right?

The Dalai Lama once paid my tuition to a lecture series he gave on Patience... That was cool. All I had to do was get to Tuscon.

Most of my girlfriends always gave me something sexual as a gift. (That was all I wanted anyway)

My Kitty was a great gift. (I miss her)

Do any of these count?

Posted by: Mel at October 25, 2004 06:37 AM

do you have a subject that you prefer to shoot mel?

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 06:32 AM

I've gone through different periods. Too numerous to name and it would sound boring anyway. I like abstract photos. I like photos that tell a story. I like candid photos of people. I've done whole sets on buildings in different cities and homeless people (and musical instruments when I was a kid) I like animal photos and I think that's what I want to start with... I don't know.

I was going to buy this camera tomorrow but talking about it is making me change my mind.

For most of my laugh I was the guy with the camera but it's been awhile.

Posted by: Mel at October 25, 2004 06:45 AM

My laugh... That's funny.

Posted by: Mel at October 25, 2004 06:47 AM

sure they all count mel - how long did you have kitty?

why did the dalai lama pay your tuition? that must be a cool story. tuscon is where he was speaking i guess right?

i saw that i do have one of his books in my library today when i was dusting in there.

*(That was all I wanted anyway)*

[rolls eyes]
ooohhh big secret mel -
:)

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 06:48 AM

why would you change your mind? sounds like it would open up a lot of stuff for you creatively.

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 06:49 AM

I said my laugh instead of my life... about the same for me I guess. A slip of the tongue of the mind it was. One I won't soon forget. I will remember all of my laugh.

Posted by: Mel at October 25, 2004 06:49 AM

i'm watching my tape of madtv and snl from sat night - did you see either one?

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 06:50 AM

Big bombs go boom.

The Bush Administration was so busy
looking for the WMD that weren't there
that they were blind to the MWD that
were right under their eyes.

And so it goes with these incompetent bastards
that can do no wrong in the eyes of 40%+ of our
Bush walking brain dead countrymen and women:

Tons of Iraqi explosives missing

Nearly 350 tons of conventional explosives have vanished from a former military complex in Iraq, the UN says.

The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) said the explosives vanished from the al-Qaqaa facility near Baghdad during looting after the invasion.

It added that the explosives could be used in powerful conventional weapons or to detonate nuclear devices.

Posted by: Ajax at October 25, 2004 06:51 AM

laugh and life sounds good to me

hey i think snl and mad should do like the partridge family and brady bunch and get together for a special -maybe all together they can make one great show?

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 06:52 AM

Big bombs go boom.

hi ajax! see you know how to dum it down for me!
tell me the news like i'm a two year old - that's perfect!
:)

howz it goin ajax?
besides the missing explosives i mean, which is not good news.

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 06:54 AM

howz it goin ajax?

Posted by: shell
at October 25, 2004 06:54 AM

It goes shell, we're down to the home stretch,
volunteer to be a poll watcher in your county,
contact the Dem party in your hometown and
give them a hand !!

Now's the best time to fight the good fight !!

Posted by: Ajax at October 25, 2004 06:58 AM

"how long did you have kitty?"

About three years. I got her as a kitten and she used to love to ride on my shoulders. As she got older she would just jump up there and sing. She used to love to sing. She likes it in florida. She's alright. We travelled across country together in my jeep. that was fun. except her favorite place to lay was under the pedals and that was dangerous. but once I stepped on her she discovered the error of her ways.

"why did the dalai lama pay your tuition?"

That was the second time I travelled across country (before me and the cat) And I was in Austin (cool city) and discovered he was teaching in Tuscon. So I wrote him a letter and he wrote us back (me and my then girlfriend) And he said I could attend free of charge because I had no extra money. What else was he going to say... no? (It was actually more involved than that but that's the story this late)

Posted by: Mel at October 25, 2004 07:01 AM

Shell that SNL was pretty bad except for Ashlee Simpson's second song. They fucked up and made her look so stupid. She got so busted for lipsyncing.

How did you get Mad TV. Do you have Tivo? It came on so late because of the ballgame. And it was a repeat, anyway.

Posted by: Mel at October 25, 2004 07:05 AM

great ideas ajax!
*

i always want to teach a kitten to travel well in a car, but haven't done it yet - none of my cats do well in a car so that musta been fun. seems like i always find cats while i'm traveling though, so that's fun.

i'm shocked that you and your girlfriend even got a response, that's really cool that he did that. i assume you learned a lot from him at the teaching.

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 07:08 AM

ashlee simpson looks like rod stewart to me -

jude law is very handsome though - did you see a.i.? that was a tripper movie.
*

i can only tape the first 1/2 hour of mad / then snl / i think it's dum how they set em up that way - i swear i just wait for people to break character on snl - that's all that makes me laugh too - and now jimmy fallon is gone and all - i hate it, but i would hate it worse if it were cancelled i think

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 07:11 AM

i assume you learned a lot from him at the teaching.

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 07:08 AM

Life affirming. He's a great teacher. But there were five days and he spoke twice a day and there were other teachers who spoke each day and they were great as well. It was a magnificent experience.

Posted by: Mel at October 25, 2004 07:13 AM

i'd like to see something like that someday mel.

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 07:15 AM

I love SNL Shell. I turned off the world series to watch. I never miss it and I've been watching since the beginning when some of their sexual humor made me uncomfortable. I even watched during the Dick Ebersol years when it sucked ass.

"Cheese Burger. Cheese Burger. Two chip. Two Pepsi."

Posted by: Mel at October 25, 2004 07:17 AM

I have to sleep now.

Goodnight Shell.

I'll be back at showtime.

Posted by: Mel at October 25, 2004 07:22 AM

good night mel

i'm going too

have lotsa laundry to do

sleep well mel

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 07:30 AM

And it's been awhile
Since I could hold my head up high
And it's been awhile since I first saw you
And it's been awhile since I could stand on my own two feet again
And it's been awhile since I could call you

And everything I can't remember
As fucked up as it all may seem
The consequences that I've rendered
I've stretched myself beyond my means

It's been awhile
Since I can say that I wasn't addicted
And it's been awhile since I can say I love myself as well and
And it's been awhile since I've gone and fucked things up just like I always do
And it's been awhile but all that shit seems to disappear when I'm with you

And everything I can't remember
As fucked up as it all may seem
The consequences that I've rendered
I've gone and fucked things up again

Why must I feel this way?
Just make this go away
Just one more peaceful day

And it's been awhile
Since I could look at myself straight
And it's been awhile since I said I'm sorry
And it's been awhile since I've seen the way the candles light your face
And it's been awhile but I can still remember just the way you taste

And everything I can't remember
As fucked up as it all may seem to be
I know it's me
I cannot blame this on my father
He did the best he could for me

And it's been awhile
Since I could hold my head up high
And it's ben awhile since I said I'm sorry

Posted by: Mel at October 25, 2004 07:32 AM

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 07:30 AM

damn shell ....gettin more and more like a rap session between teeny bopper girly types in here

Posted by: celticman at October 25, 2004 07:34 AM

and simultaneously it's getting more and more like KERRY/EDWARDS country out there celt.
have a nice day!
:)

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 07:41 AM

Posted by: celticman at October 25, 2004 07:34 AM

What a witty and insightful analysis, not.

plus

Hey, shell, I just dropped off that one post last night and missed out on saying hi yesterday, so...

hi!

Posted by: r at October 25, 2004 08:22 AM

Posted by: Mel at October 25, 2004 07:32 AM

Just props on a nice post.

only gonna be here a few minutes, about to go do those monday morning things.

Posted by: r at October 25, 2004 08:25 AM

G'day gang.

Along with the "looted explosives under UN seal" story posted by Sammer in the header, THIS is the other hot story from the weekend & this morning on how the Bushies have conspired to disregard the Geneva Conventions in order to smuggle Iraqi POW's out of Iraq.

[If you want the inside scoop on military/gov't intel stories, bookmark this blog & check it daily!]

Check out the first two posts from the Phillip Carter's Intel Dump blog & the links to the Wash. Post, Wash. Monthly, NYT & WSJ stories contained therein.

http://www.intel-dump.com/

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at October 25, 2004 08:51 AM

Bush lied. Thousands died.

Posted by: Herr A$hcroft at October 25, 2004 08:56 AM

This is heavy do-do, kids!
From Carter's Intel Dump blog in my post above:

"...One intelligence official familiar with the operation said the CIA has used the March draft memo as legal support for secretly transporting as many as a dozen detainees out of Iraq in the last six months. The agency has concealed the detainees from the International Committee of the Red Cross and other authorities, the official said.

The draft opinion, written by the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel and dated March 19, 2004, refers to both Iraqi citizens and foreigners in Iraq, who the memo says are protected by the treaty. It permits the CIA to take Iraqis out of the country to be interrogated for a "brief but not indefinite period." It also says the CIA can permanently remove persons deemed to be "illegal aliens" under "local immigration law."

Some specialists in international law say the opinion amounts to a reinterpretation of one of the most basic rights of Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention, which protects civilians during wartime and occupation, including insurgents who were not part of Iraq's military.

The treaty prohibits the "[i]ndividual or mass forcible transfers, as well as deportations of protected persons from occupied territory . . . regardless of their motive."

The 1949 treaty notes that a violation of this particular provision constitutes a "grave breach" of the accord, and thus a "war crime" under U.S. federal law, according to a footnote in the Justice Department draft. "For these reasons," the footnote reads, "we recommend that any contemplated relocations of 'protected persons' from Iraq to facilitate interrogation be carefully evaluated for compliance with Article 49 on a case by case basis." It says that even persons removed from Iraq retain the treaty's protections, which would include humane treatment and access to international monitors."

http://www.intel-dump.com/

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at October 25, 2004 08:58 AM

Heh, heh, heh...I'll bet my main man, Slick Willie, sneaks out for a cheesesteak w/ extra onions, bypass surgery & all! :)
Do ya's think the Bushiters will be amping-up the anti-Clinton rhetoric about now??!!

Clinton Campaigns With Kerry Today - AP

PHILADELPHIA - Former President Clinton (news - web sites) plans to attend a rally with John Kerry (news - web sites) today in Philadelphia, then travel to Florida for a rally tonight. Kerry and President Bush (news - web sites) continue their campaigns through swing states today with the election a week from tomorrow.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041025/ap_on_el_pr/campaign_rdp&cid=694&ncid=716

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at October 25, 2004 09:07 AM

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

Kerry - 247 and Bush - 285

This is actually GOOD news, boys & girls, because the site uses ZOGBY state polls in NV, IA, WI, OH, WV, VA, MN, PA & FL.

AND ZOGBY consistently overpolls repukes, underpolls dems, overpolls LIKELY voters (opposed to registered voters), AND ignores newly-registered voters & the cell-phone-only voters.

Bush must be 5-8 points up in the national polls (minimum) & be at least that much up (if not higher) in the battleground states to have a chance.

KERRY IN A LANDSLIDE!

Gotta prep & off to a client.

Laters, kids.....WORK HARD!

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at October 25, 2004 09:28 AM

whats poppin
early blog

Posted by: Bart at October 25, 2004 10:10 AM

we are very upset by the actions of a few that appeared in the recent commerical. We wolves have lobbeyed time and again for better control of the environment and for years we have tried to dispell the Red Riding Hood myth. Please know most of us to not support the abrupt actions a few have taken.

Posted by: APackofWolves at October 25, 2004 10:20 AM

http://www.michaelmoore.com/books-films/fahrenheit911/free/index.php

MICHAEL MOORE ANNOUNCES "FAHRENHEIT FOR FREE" OCTOBER 26

VIDEO STORES ACROSS THE NATION TO RENT CUSTOMERS "FAHRENHEIT 9/11" FREE OF CHARGE

While on his 60 city "Slacker Uprising Tour," Oscar-winning filmmaker Michael Moore is joining forces with video store operators in an effort to get as many Americans as possible to see the film before the election. Video stores across the country will be waiving the usual rental fee for "Fahrenheit 9/11," beginning on October 26. A recent Harris poll showed that 44 percent of Republicans who have seen the film gave it a positive rating. "It isn't possible to view this film and come out saying you are voting George W. Bush," stated Moore.

Moore is currently on a 60-city tour to the 20 battleground states to rally non-voters and slackers, America's majority, to give voting a try, just this once. He's offering clean underwear and Ramen noodles to slackers, which has Republicans in his home state of Michigan calling for his arrest.

Moore is appearing on college campuses, arenas, stadiums and field houses. Nearly all venues hold between 5,000 and 15,000 people, with students -- historically the largest block of non-voters in presidential elections -- admitted for free at most events.

If you are a video store owner interested in getting involved, please e-mail us at F911ForFree@michaelmoore.com.

Participating video stores include (please note that days of free rentals may vary - check with your local video store for details):

Arizona
Arkansas
California
Colorado
Florida
Georgia
Hawaii
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Kentucky
Maine
Michigan
Minnesota
Missouri
Nebraska
Nevada

New Hampshire
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Carolina
Ohio
Oklahoma
Oregon
Pennsylvania
South Dakota
Texas
Utah
Washington
West Virginia
Wisconsin
Canada

Posted by: Look, a shiney thing at October 25, 2004 10:24 AM

I realized something yesterday while up on a roof.

That Amerikkka will never leave Iraq. We will Kill, rape, and pilage the Iraqi peeps. Then when we are finished killing and hurting enough of them we will stick the rest of them on a reservation.

That is what the White ass cracker man did to the American Indians and that is their plan for the Iraqi peeps.

Posted by: aka MAT at October 25, 2004 10:54 AM

http://www.pscelebrities.com/mrr/rd1.jpg

http://www.pscelebrities.com/mrr/rd.jpg


SO CUTE!!! Roman and Dolly are quite the couple!

Is Dolly the small one?

Posted by: aka MAT at October 25, 2004 10:59 AM

http://iafrica.com/news/worldnews/385228.htm
"The Bush administration knew where this stockpile was, but took no action to secure the site."
Fleming said that IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei would report to the UN Security Council on Monday.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_world/view/113398/1/.html
Kerry demands answers about missing explosives
Campaigning in Florida, the senator assailed Bush for telling Fox News: "America is safer under the course of action we've taken, but not yet safe. Whether or not we can be ever fully safe is up, you know, is up in the air."
"You make me president of the United States, we are going to win the war on terror, it's not going to be up in the air whether or not we make America safe," Kerry countered.


http://www.canada.com/windsor/windsorstar/news/story.html?id=c88a9c92-a24b-4e68-bbff-0da67c899ee8
IAEA confirms report that tonnes of explosives missing from former Iraqi base
Bush's national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, was informed of the missing explosives in the past month, the report said. It said Iraq's interim government recently warned the United States and UN nuclear inspectors that the explosives had vanished. "Upon receiving the declaration on Oct. 10, we first took measures to authenticate it," Fleming said. "Then on Oct. 15, we informed the multinational forces through the U.S. government with the request for it to take any appropriate action in co-operation with Iraq's interim government."


http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200410/200410250043.html
380 Tons of Explosives Missing in Iraq
U.S. officials are said to have been informed several weeks ago that the explosives had disappeared from Iraq's Al Qaqaa military storage facility.

Posted by: at October 25, 2004 11:07 AM

For the first time ever, I have noticed a bias in C-SPAN coverage.

C-SPAN is currently showing some disgusting swift boat liar hacking away at truth and democracy.

twice this weekend I saw they were broadcasting a different "hours long" discussion with the swift boat liars for Bush (the pig.)

Republicans have NO honor.

Republicans have NO respect.

Republicans, at least at the highest reaches of their power, are unAmerican corruptors of justice and fair play.

God is NOT on their side.

I can't wait till this election is over and we can start to clean house.

They make me feel dirty. Ashamed of our nation and it's abusable laws.

I rue the use of this word, but none other fits.

evil.

back 4 showtime.

Posted by: r at October 25, 2004 11:16 AM

I realized something yesterday while up on a roof.

Posted by: aka MAT at October 25, 2004 10:54 AM

That the people down below were yelling "jump"?

Posted by: at October 25, 2004 11:26 AM

That the people down below were yelling "jump"?

Posted by: at October 25, 2004 11:26 AM


Give it up Asshole! not as weak as you think.

Posted by: at October 25, 2004 11:29 AM

Hi, Miss Anne!
How are you today?

Posted by: Cb at October 25, 2004 11:31 AM

good morning miss anne!!

yeah dolly is the little one, she has 7 toes on one paw and six on the other - and with her oh so tiny head - she's really cute!

who's the knuckle head with a crush on you?

cb? chubby? or crank? or neither?
***

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 11:38 AM

lqtm(quietly to myself)
Nader's speaking at churches, too...

Posted by: at October 25, 2004 11:39 AM

I'd Just Like To Say Hello To My Uncle!

Posted by: Billy Mumphrey at October 25, 2004 11:40 AM

Hey there Shell! how are you doing?

your kitty pic's are soooooo cute. I love kitty's

I have to go to work today and I'm late but I want to wait till the traffic calms down.

Are you getting any rain today.

Seems I have secret admirer. wonder who it could be NOT!

Posted by: Miss Anne Thropic at October 25, 2004 11:45 AM

Hi Cb I have not blogged with you in a long time.

How have you been?

Posted by: aka MAT at October 25, 2004 11:46 AM

well I have to go again. Can't blog with ya all today have to work.

See ya

Hope you have a great day!

Posted by: aka MAT at October 25, 2004 11:52 AM

nope, but i hear the rain is on the way

i'm making basil aioli now

got the last basil out of my garden

and all the tomato too - a few green ones left

i wish miss cathy were around because maybe she
knows a natural way to get rid of those pesky white flies in the garden


sorry about work, not to mention traffic miss a

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 11:52 AM

psssst.....Hi shell

Posted by: RWiley at October 25, 2004 11:57 AM

Morning All.

News Flash

Cheif Justice William Renquist in Hospital for Thyroid Cancer.

Posted by: tonid at October 25, 2004 11:58 AM

ay shell...ya, your address might help if i'm gonna mail you this cd

-

and which site is the noosphere site?

because ya, i'll play two players at the same time, and then go to a site that plays music for a third layer...

Posted by: dadalux at October 25, 2004 11:59 AM

DES MOINES REGISTER ENDORSES KERRY
John Kerry, The Real Thing
By REGISTER EDITORIAL BOARD
October 24, 2004


About half of Americans have lost confidence in President Bush, yet many hang back from embracing the alternative.

That's unfortunate, because Senator John F. Kerry is a wise and decent man who has the makings of a fine president.

Still, there's little wonder that voters have doubts. Most of what they think they know about the senator comes from a masterful job of "defining the opposition" carried out by the Bush campaign and its surrogates before most people got a chance to know the real Kerry.

So Americans were introduced to Kerry the flip-flopper. Kerry the softie on defense. Kerry the wild-eyed liberal. Kerry the appeaser who will let terrorists attack America.

It's sad that an incumbent president chose to employ so much of his vast campaign resources to tear down his challenger, and not to cite his own accomplishments or to move the nation ahead. But perhaps that's precisely the difficulty the president faces.

[Bush's] presidency has been one of bold leadership undermined by a failure to achieve meaningful results.

Posted by: Reality-Based Blogging at October 25, 2004 12:00 PM

mornin folks!

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 25, 2004 12:00 PM

YIPPEE FUN!!
RW WILEY IS HOME!!!!

how was your trip?
so cool your back!
you were missed!!

:)

***

hi tonid! yeah i just heard that on tv about renquist - i can hear the buzz begin about that one - that's big news if he goes -

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 12:01 PM

Morning....Toni deee and Sunny Jim

Posted by: RWiley at October 25, 2004 12:01 PM

Whoops!
I slipped, fell,
and invaded your country!

Posted by: G.W.B. at October 25, 2004 12:02 PM

good mornin blog comrades! :)
8 day left till we are all give chainey him ticket back to em lizard lounge!

Posted by: muck4doo at October 25, 2004 12:02 PM

Happy Monday everyone! Week from tomorrow!

Posted by: Ottozdad at October 25, 2004 12:04 PM

Welcome Home RW.
How was your Cruise?

************Hellos everbody!!!

Posted by: tonid at October 25, 2004 12:04 PM

http://noosphere.princeton.edu/

this one.

**

hi sunshine!

Posted by: shell at October 25, 2004 12:04 PM

Good to be back...Tonie Deeee....Boy, two weeks without much news was not easy for this old news junky. sure did miss you all and the blog.....and AAR... All I was able to get was a few scrachy peeks at CNN (puke)...Gonna lurk all day today and catch up!

Posted by: RWiley at October 25, 2004 12:05 PM

kerry's a vet,

w's a piss ant.

simple choice eh?

impeach cheney first

prosecute Karl Rove for bad puppetry.

and get ready to revamp our economic system

as our standard of life changes rapidly.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 25, 2004 12:05 PM

welcome back r wiley! :)

Posted by: muck4doo at October 25, 2004 12:06 PM

I got that bracelet today, and it should have totally gone to J.

mabey I can get it on my wrist... nah. no way.

Ray'll love it. He'll give it to his girfriend and we'll be real cool guys.

yeah, that's right. We're cool guys.

Posted by: r at October 25, 2004 12:07 PM

I sure wish AAR would do some work on their Windows Media Player Streamer. It really hasn't been working right for at least two...mebbe three weeks! Meantime.....tensions continue to rise in the Buckeye State! I saw two old dudes going at each other yesterday in a drug store parking lot! As a small crowd of curious people nosed in....it turned out a guy with a BIG Bush button on accosted a guy wearing a Kerry /Edwards pin! These fellas had to be each over 70! They were screaming at each other about what an asshole each was! It was hilarious....except it is SOOOOO sad! The closer we move into unbridled fascism....the weirder it is getting!

Posted by: Black Ohio Sky at October 25, 2004 12:08 PM

Welcome Home RW.
How was your Cruise?

Posted by: tonid at October 25, 2004 12:04 PM

It was sure fun Toni Deeee. The best part was meeting people from all over the U.S. and Canada and Britain who think George Bush is a Dork!

Posted by: RWiley at October 25, 2004 12:08 PM

Posted by: RWiley at October 25, 2004 12:05 PM

dang.

that's right. RWiley.

another nic I've quasi-appropriated.

very hard to be original.

I only got so much time for amusements.

Posted by: r at October 25, 2004 12:09 PM

Hey Muckie 4 due.....I hear Bill O'Lielly got caught with drool all over his cell phone ....

Posted by: RWiley at October 25, 2004 12:10 PM

LOSING BATTLE
by Terence Johnson, (Source:Daily Orange)

City Officials Question Success Of Ongoing Battle With Drugs

While Richard Nixon was a central figure to the Vietnam War - one of the most unpopular and divisive conflicts in the history of the United States - another battle he began rivals its reputation.

The war on drugs has been a continuous force in American politics and justice for the past 30 years, at a cost of over half a trillion dollars, according to the Drug Enforcement Agency. But as drug-related cases crowd jails around the country and a seemingly endless supply of illegal drugs and drug dealers rush to satisfy the black market, the fight is accumulating a long list of casualties and few victories.

http://www.mapinc.org/newsnorml/v04/n1491/a04.html

Posted by: Bart at October 25, 2004 12:10 PM

SOARES, BRESLIN LEADING IN POLL
by Michele Morgan Bolton, Staff writer, (Source:Times Union)

Democrats in Races for Albany County DA, State Senator Have Strong Support, Survey Shows

ALBANY -- A political newcomer waging an ardent grass-roots campaign on Rockefeller Drug Laws reform is comfortably leading in the three-way battle for Albany County district attorney, according to an independent Times Union/News Channel 13 poll.

However, almost a third of those polled said they are still undecided nine days before the election.

Of the 622 residents questioned by the Siena Research Institute between Oct. 19-21, 38 percent said they planned to vote for David Soares, 34, who seized the Democratic Party line from incumbent District Attorney Paul Clyne in a dramatic Sept. 14 primary election.

Clyne, 44, and Soares, a former assistant in his office, both live in Bethlehem.

Clyne still has the Independence Party line. Roger Cusick, 54, of Loudonville, is running on the Republican and Conservative Party lines.

Poll results show Soares leading Clyne and Cusick by a ratio of more than 2 to 1, with 17 percent favoring Clyne and 15 percent backing Cusick.

Reform of the Rockefeller Drug Laws -- a key campaign issue for Soares, who has criticized them as being too severe -- appears to be popular. Sixty-six percent of survey respondents said his stance was a plus.
http://www.mapinc.org/norml/v04/n1505/a08.htm

Posted by: Bart at October 25, 2004 12:12 PM

hey hey rwiley!

i'm glad the ship didnt sink


Posted by: dadalux at October 25, 2004 12:13 PM

Yesterday, Rep. Tom DeLay (R-TX) was subpoenaed to testify in a Texas lawsuit "about his role in using government resources to track down Democratic [state] legislators" who fled the state in an effort to block a partisan redistricting plan DeLay engineered. DeLay's spokesman claimed the subpoena was "a cheap publicity stunt on something that has no connection to Tom DeLay." Actually, the House Ethic Committee has publicly admonished DeLay for misusing public funds by directing his staff to contact the Federal Aviation Administration to track down the plane. The committee suggested DeLay's conduct may have been in violation of federal law. (You can listen to recordings of FAA officials discussing DeLay's request which indicate that agency staff were misled into believing the request was part of a formal Congressional investigation). The subpoena is just the latest in a string of public admonishments, private warnings and legal action taken in response to Tom DeLay's egregiously unethical conduct.
If you want to get DeLay out of the People House please donate to the Richard Morrison Campaign.
http://www.richardmorrisonfordistrict22.com/contribute/contribute.php

Posted by: Sam Houston at October 25, 2004 12:14 PM

How To Steal Explosives And Build A Fission Bomb


Josh Marshall writes about how intept war planning let the Iraqi insurgency get hundreds of tons of super high-quality explosives that they've used to kill our troops and radically undermine our efforts to build Iraqi security forces. The New York Times covers it here.

The explosives in question were, before the war, under guard by the IAEA because these are the sort of explosives you use in building nuclear weapons.

As I understand it, these sorts of high-grade explosives are not strictly necessary for the construction of a nuclear weapon. I'm not a nuclear engineer (in case you hadn't guessed) by my understanding is that a gun-triggered fission device doesn't require this sort of thing.

The high-explosives are in case you're trying to build an implosion-trigged fission device.

The latter bomb design is more efficient -- i.e., you get a bigger explosion per unit of highly-enriched uranium.

On the other hand, the gun-triggered devices present less-daunting engineering problems along several dimensions, so there's reason to believe this is the kind of thing a terrorist outfit would try to build anyway.

As a side note, it's worth keeping in mind that when we talk about nuclear proliferation scenarios, especially with regards to terrorists, we're primarily talking about modest-sized fission devices of the sort that are in the Pakistani arsenal and are easier to build in general.

-- Matt Yglesias

Posted by: Reality-Based Blogging at October 25, 2004 12:15 PM

http://www.halliburton.com/kbr/index.jsp

Posted by: at October 25, 2004 12:16 PM

eya Rrrr

welcome back.

i'd be delighted to

hear about your vacation.

did u take any pix to share?

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 25, 2004 12:16 PM

DRUG CZAR VOWS TO FIGHT LEGALIZATION OF MARIJUANA
by Ed Vogel, Review-Journal Capital Bureau, (Source:Las Vegas Review-Journal)

Office of National Drug Control Policy Director Visits Nevada to Stave Off Newest Efforts

RENO -- The nation's drug czar vowed Wednesday to do everything within his power to stop new efforts to legalize marijuana in Nevada and other states.

"People thought it was inevitable here two years ago," said John Walters, whose actual title is director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy. "If we don't stop them, everything else is undermined."

Nevada voters rejected a ballot question two years ago to legalize up to three ounces of marijuana. That proposal failed by a vote of 39 percent for, 61 percent against. Prior to the vote, Walters' office saturated the Nevada airwaves with anti-drug announcements.

Walters said he had no choice but to embark on the government-financed anti-marijuana campaign because the Marijuana Policy Project can rely on funds provided by billionaire financier George Soros and other wealthy contributors.

"A lot of money has been spent in this state to make the drug problem worse," said Walters in an interview before he addressed a group of drug prevention advocates. "I was moved by the pleas of people who said outsiders are trying to make our state into a guinea pig."

http://www.mapinc.org/norml/v04/n1501/a04.htm?134

Posted by: Bart at October 25, 2004 12:20 PM

Lots of stories out there that need follow up.

The other story is the removal of Iraqi Prisoners.
Don't know where they were taken.

Posted by: tonid at October 25, 2004 12:20 PM

did u take any pix to share?


Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 25, 2004 12:16 PM


Sure did Jim......I will pick out a couple and put them on MRR .....

Posted by: RWiley at October 25, 2004 12:20 PM

Wolcott takes down Fineman and Nagourney:

First of all, how does Fineman know the crowds aren't pumped up for Kerry? Did he attend these rallies? Did he ask anyone? No, he's assuming, as most of the media elite do, that no one could possibly be "up" for a Kerry event because the media narrative is that Kerry is a stiff hunk of bark.

As reflected in Adam Nagorney telling Charlie Rose that heck he has more charisma than poor Kerry.

Really, Adam? You think you could hold the interest of 12,000 people, as Kerry did at a recent rally in Reno, Nevada?

You're the kind of putz people walk away from at cocktail parties


http://jameswolcott.com/archives/2004/10/howard_fineman.php

Posted by: Jimmy James at October 25, 2004 12:23 PM


i'm glad the ship didnt sink

Posted by: dadalux at October 25, 2004 12:13 PM

Hey dadalux. me too! But leaving and returning NY harbor was a great sight. I thought of you as I looked out over the boroughs from the sea......

Posted by: RWiley at October 25, 2004 12:23 PM

Special News Release: Marijuana Arrests For Year 2003 Hit Record High, FBI Report Reveals
Pot Smokers Arrested In America At A Rate Of One Every 42 Seconds

October 25, 2004 - Washington, DC, USA

Washington, DC: Police arrested an estimated 755,187 persons for marijuana violations in 2003, according to the Federal Bureau of Investigation's annual Uniform Crime Report, released today. The total is the highest ever recorded by the FBI, and comprised 45 percent of all drug arrests in the United States.

"These numbers belie the myth that police do not target and arrest minor marijuana offenders," said Keith Stroup, Executive Director of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML), who noted that at current rates, a marijuana smoker is arrested every 42 seconds in America. "This effort is a tremendous waste of criminal justice resources, costing American taxpayers approximately $7.6 billion dollars annually. These dollars would be better served combating serious and violent crime, including the war on terrorism."

Of those charged with marijuana violations, 88 percent - some 662,886 Americans - were charged with possession only. The remaining 92,301 individuals were charged with "sale/manufacture," a category that includes all cultivation offenses - even those where the marijuana was being grown for personal or medical use. In past years, approximately 30 percent of those arrested were age 19 or younger.

"Present policies have done little if anything to decrease marijuana's availability or dissuade youth from trying it," Stroup said, noting that a majority of young people now report that they have easier access to pot than alcohol or tobacco.

continues....

Posted by: Bart at October 25, 2004 12:28 PM

Kerry Slams Bush for 'Great Blunder' in Iraq

1 hour, 42 minutes ago Politics - Reuters

By Patricia Wilson

DOVER, N.H. (Reuters) - Democratic challenger John Kerry (news - web sites) accused President Bush (news - web sites) on Monday of committing "one of the greatest blunders" of his administration in failing to secure tons of explosives in Iraq (news - web sites) and said the Republican incumbent did not deserve to be commander in chief.

.snip


Eight days before the Nov. 2 election, a potentially damaging report in The New York Times said that almost 380 tons of explosives vanished from an Iraqi military installation amid widespread looting after the U.S.-led invasion.


A spokeswoman for the United Nations (news - web sites) nuclear watchdog confirmed the explosives were missing and said International Atomic Energy Agency chief Mohamed ElBaradei would immediately report the matter to the U.N. Security Council.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=578&e=3&u=/nm/20041025/pl_nm/campaign_kerry_dc

Posted by: tonid at October 25, 2004 12:28 PM

Hi.

who is we bitchslapping today?

Posted by: it is for to JIK with at October 25, 2004 12:29 PM

New Yorker Endorses Kerry for President

13 minutes ago


NEW YORK - The New Yorker has made the first political endorsement in its 80-year history, backing Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites) in next week's presidential election.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041025/ap_en_ot/new_yorker_endorsement&cid=487&ncid=2043

Posted by: tonid at October 25, 2004 12:29 PM

The total number of marijuana arrests for 2003 far exceeded the total number of arrests for all violent crimes combined, including murder, manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery and aggravated assault.

Marijuana arrests for 2003 increased 8 percent from the previous year, and have nearly doubled since 1993.

"Arresting adults who smoke marijuana responsibly needlessly destroys the lives of tens of thousands of otherwise law abiding citizens each year," Stroup said.

In the past decade, more than 6.5 million Americans have been arrested on marijuana charges, more than the entire populations of Alaska, Delaware, the District of Columbia, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Vermont, and Wyoming combined. Nearly 90 percent of these total arrests were for simple possession, not cultivation or sale. During much of this time, arrests for cocaine and heroin have declined sharply, indicating that increased enforcement of marijuana laws is being achieved at the expense of enforcing laws against the possession and trafficking of more dangerous drugs.

"Marijuana legalization would remove this behemoth financial burden from the criminal justice system, freeing up criminal justice resources to target other more serious crimes, and allowing law enforcement to focus on the highest echelons of hard-drug trafficking enterprises rather than on minor marijuana offenders who present no threat to public safety," Stroup said.

Posted by: Bart at October 25, 2004 12:30 PM

Later this fall, the NORML Foundation will be releasing a comprehensive report examining the nature, extent and costs of marijuana arrests in the United States. The report will feature state-by-state analysis of marijuana arrests by race, as well as an economic and geographic analysis of US marijuana arrests.

YEAR MARIJUANA ARRESTS


2003 755,187
2002 697,082
2001 723,627
2000 734,498
1999 704,812
1998 682,885
1997 695,200
1996 641,642
1995 588,963
1994 499,122
1993 380,689


http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6313

Posted by: Bart at October 25, 2004 12:31 PM

Poopy Productions.

I'm gonna say that's Professional Comedy.

even if there's no parser, a few html tags still send the same message.

I got a mug and a dvd. Yeah!

hey, I'm gonna send you some things Ray and I do at our production house.

should embarrass you deeply, sam. (wink)

Ray does a lot of the work. Almost all the photography.

Posted by: r at October 25, 2004 12:32 PM

Bill O'Lielly's hot date this weekend:

His vibrating cell phone.

Posted by: Ottozdad at October 25, 2004 12:32 PM



Memo Lets CIA Take Detainees Out of Iraq

Mon Oct 25, 8:02 AM ET Top Stories - washingtonpost.com

By Dana Priest, Washington Post Staff Writer

At the request of the CIA (news - web sites), the Justice Department (news - web sites) drafted a confidential memo that authorizes the agency to transfer detainees out of Iraq (news - web sites) for interrogation -- a practice that international legal specialists say contravenes the Geneva Conventions.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1802&ncid=716&e=18&u=/washpost/20041025/ts_washpost/a57363_2004oct23

Posted by: tonid at October 25, 2004 12:33 PM