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October 15, 2004
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Frist!
We are going to have to rally all DEMS to vote early so if their precinct runs out of ballots it will be Repugs who are left without!
Posted by: "Will Loofa Your Falafel for Kerry" at October 15, 2004 01:24 PM
What can you do about O'Liely!!!
Posted by: tonid at October 15, 2004 01:28 PM
hee hee!
was callin yesterday
my phone bill lookin like
the national debt but it's worth it!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 01:28 PM
The only thing I'll say against Andrea Mackris is she a CJS grad who went to work for FOX NEWS. You dive in a cesspool, yer apt to get some scum on you.
Posted by: bibimimi at October 15, 2004 01:30 PM
bye yalls ima outta here! off to see em rethugs parker and stone movie. :) sorry but ima love south park. have fun and dont get an o'liely cooters.
Posted by: muck4doo at October 15, 2004 01:31 PM
Hi nik E,
How have you been? Haven't seen your nik for awhile. Posted by: tonid at October 15, 2004 01:07 PM
Hi tonid! I've been good ... spendin time on election stuff. Talkin to folks ... offering to drive'em to the polls ...
Posted by: Nik E Poo at October 15, 2004 01:31 PM
FoXycontin News
the O'Dildo Factor
Flaffeloofa
Anti-Kerry movie is a "crockumentary."
falaphilia
...lotsa good topics today
(which one to harp on today....hummmnn.....)
Posted by: "Will Loofa Your Falafel for Kerry" at October 15, 2004 01:31 PM
eya Sammer
Mornin bud!
when u gonna let us
admin the bloggie?
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 01:32 PM
Republicans Block Progress and Law Making to the Bitter End
"It’s no wonder this Congress accomplished so little. Our Republican friends hardly broke a sweat. In 2004, House Republicans worked fewer days than in any single session of Congress since 1948. President Harry Truman called that Republican Congress the ‘do-nothing Congress.' Today, you might call this Republican Congress the ‘do-less-than-nothing Congress.’"
- Congressman Steny Hoyer (D-MD), House Democratic Whip
As the 108th Congress comes to a close, Americans are finding House Republicans have consistently failed to live up to their responsibilities. In fact, the Republican-controlled House of Representatives worked the fewest number of legislative days this year - 103 days - of any single session of Congress since 1948. Meanwhile, five million more Americans have lost their health insurance, four million more have been squeezed into poverty and the recommendations of the 9/11 Commission still have not been acted on.
What has the Republican leadership been doing instead of creating jobs, making healthcare affordable and defending our country? Where were the basic needs and concerns of the American people in the Republican schedule? They found time to hand out new tax breaks for wealthy corporate interests, gave the drug industry billions in windfall profits, and create new subsidies for HMOs. But they did not have the time to help the nation’s 8 million unemployed or 45 million without affordable health care.
http://democrats.house.gov/news/librarydetail.cfm?library_content_id=269
Posted by: tonid at October 15, 2004 01:33 PM
Hey Tonid! :)
I think it's much ado about nothing, but...
yeah, they are really trying to take him to task over that Mary Cheney comment. I find this ironic, sad, and sort of funny, since during the Vice-Presidential Debate, John Edwards brought up Mary first as well, practically in the same context as Kerry did Wednesday, and what did the VP say to Edwards ...???... Thank you for the lovely comments about my family. That's it. Now, Dick and Lynn are outraged? WhatEVAH...!
Besides, Mary Cheney is a thorn in the gay community's side. She's done very little to change her party's attitude towards gay people when she has enormous opportunities available for her to do so - She chooses to remain silent. And that IS her choice. But, to many gay people I know, that's selfish, self-loathing behavior. The gay community has little respect for her.
And on that note, shall we have us a Bloody Mary for brunch? ;p
Posted by: Gay Boi Charlie at October 15, 2004 01:33 PM
The O'Reilly Fucter...
oh, that's right. he was rebuffed.
Posted by: bibimimi at October 15, 2004 01:34 PM
FAMILY VALUES…MY ASS!
Don’t give me your bible babble, go adopt a retard
Then give me your pro-life speech.
Too lazy to go to church, hypocrites never bother
To practice what they preach.
Pro-lifers for the death penalty, oxymorons for morons
Take a retard and add just one brain cell.
You’ve got another right-wing Republican neo-con fascist psychopath
Who thinks he’s not going to hell.
It ain’t God talking to you,…you stupid dumbass goose
You’re just another born again Christian wack job done run loose.
God ain’t talkin’ to you, you freakin’ lunatic
Pro-life?, you’re a poster child for aborting the young.
Just another shape-shifting tumor, resembling a lizard
Sliding us into the abyss is all you’ve done.
Quite an age you led us into, world needs a hero to come and pop you like a zit.
Setting the bar for humanity so low that it’s literally buried in sewer shit.
Nixon and your Dad are starting to look like moderates, dare I say something nice.
You’re on Kissinger’s dick yet less evolved than Tony Blair’s head lice.
You wanna lead us into this new century?
Shit. Bu**sh**
Just quit.
jackass!
Posted by: The Loop is in the Poop at October 15, 2004 01:35 PM
eya NEP
good to read ya!
Cya mucker have fun!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 01:36 PM
The “they who have it alls” are whining again…
“Sneak and peak this, Bush.”
Kiss my Ashcroft!
You caught me home by accident.
Now isn’t my rash soft?”
We captured the cRapture…live on tape.
They’d said, “Fear Santa, Fear Santa.”
I made sure my soda was grape.
Posted by: Ashcroft Smokes Penis Residue at October 15, 2004 01:37 PM
Everyone should stfu about Mary Cheney except Mary Cheney. Case closed. Talk about real issues, not Rovian distraction schemes, imho.
Posted by: at October 15, 2004 01:23 PM
I apologize for the brusqueness, and I certainly didn't mean anyone here, I meant the news media and the candidates.
Posted by: at October 15, 2004 01:38 PM
I’m just busy framing the future.
It was Kerry by a landslide.
Cerebral idea…just blogged it on-line.
Brought the queendom down to earth without even trying.
Breastfeeding with the Baptists,
Pro-lifers for the war.
Up is down, and the right is wrong…
And Judith Miller’s a cRapture whore.
The spin is rooming…and the bad B-comedy…
Says, “For Mature Audiences Only.”
That’s not me, and it’s Bushbaby’s family…
That’s full of bologna.
Roasting marshmallows at the apocalypse...
Reading the cRapture fairy tale.
We set free the victimless criminals.
And, the fascist crooks all went to jail.
FURTHER, in bus, yeah,…and there goes all of us.
The crew just took over the ship.
On thin ice, I bench press my luck.
And, pray that I don’t slip.
I used to say I’d like to beat Cat Steven’s unconscious…
With Andy Rooney’s head.
The times have changed. I switched out the verse…
As I sing, “Goddess bless the dead.”
Satellite radio saved my life.
Homeland Security set me free.
A transcriber for cops,…like media stenographers for Bush,…
I’m sure glad they fired me.
I knew in Bush America, it would be inevitable.
A tax break for the rich, and then the country’s screwed.
An incurious madman in charge,…menus on our deathbeds,…
As we’re offered Frankenfood. (…big shout out to Al…)
It was “KERRY by a Landslide!!!”
Watching grown men as they cried.
Under their rock, these crooks must hide.
DeLay’s up first, and then his buddies all get fried.
Being on the right side of history,…
Is worth a laugh and a smile.
It was funny listenin’ to the whining of the “they who have it alls.”
Mork was calling Orson as I went to dial.
‘Cause it just might’ve been a strike if there were pins.
I’d tell you, but I don’t know where to begin.
Life is fine and well,…we’ll just leave it at that.
Just please don’t ask me where I’ve been.
Posted by: The Bush Administration's Lizard Leper Cocks' circle jerk...we got Condi in the middle at October 15, 2004 01:40 PM
The architects of this wickedness will find no safe harbor in this world. We will chase our enemies to the furthest corners of this Earth. It must be war without quarter, pursuit without rest, victory without qualification.
--Rep. Tom Delay majority whip, US House of Representatives
How do we get rid of this lying sack of crap?
What? Are the Republicans having some kind of race to see who can be the biggest scumbag in the
universe? I know there are many shapeshifting bloodsuckers that are up for the challenge, but...this is ridiculous. DeLay gets busted three times in one week, and nothing happens?
Is it really necessary for us to post pictures of DeLay standing on a ladder buttfucking a rhino? In his defense, I hear it was a Christian rhino. I guess that will still get him the Christian vote in Dick C. Land.
Posted by: Condoleeza sucks Dick sucks Lizard Leper Cocks at October 15, 2004 01:42 PM
eya GBC!
The Loop is in the Poop
got a good rant there!
looks like everyone
is fighting for
sane gummint
in their
best
way!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 01:42 PM
Nik E,
Been seeing lots of Kerry/Edwards signs in Repub.
DuPage county. We're running Christine Cegelis against Henry Hyde. Hoping she takes it bacause Ole Hyde is ailing and may not make his term.
Wish we could get Hastert out, but that is a dream right now. Although Rubin Zamora is a great guy, Hastert's opponent.
We need to take back the congress very badly.
Senate is a could be, House, not that great yet but we are gaining.
I am an election Judge or I would offer to take people to the poles. My job as judge is important though.
We need Pole Watchers and the call has gone out for them. Training and a $50 stipend.
Posted by: tonid at October 15, 2004 01:43 PM
eya NEP
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 01:36 PM
Hi Jim! ... I got the linkfest ... thanks a bunch! I've been pouring thru ... lots of good material for my conversations with the locals.
Posted by: Nik E Poo at October 15, 2004 01:43 PM
“Poor is the man whose pleasure depends on the permission of another.”---Madonna
“Imagination is more important than knowledge.”---Einstein
“The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”---Daniel J. Boorstin
“Drawing on my fine command of the English language,…I said nothing.”---Robert Benchley
“My philosophy is that not only are you responsible for your life, …but by doing the best at this moment,…puts you in the best place for the next moment.”---Oprah Winfrey
Posted by: Lee Harvey at October 15, 2004 01:47 PM
Gay Boi,
They are making a mountain out of a mole hill. But it is strictly politics. Don't want to go against the W's wishes.
Bloody Mary sounds great, celery and an olive please.
Posted by: tonid at October 15, 2004 01:47 PM
Saddam’s Complaint
I was house-sitting at the ranch in Crawford, Texas
watching a little cable and baggin’ some rays.
Kinda wishing I was back in my palace
I was thinking ‘bout the good old days.
Was a little before noon just this Saturday
when G-Dub done gave me a ring.
Said there’d be a jet picking me up in an hour
and not to bring anything.
I was like, “Boss-man, what’s up?...who’s gonna look after your ranch
while you’re livin’ it up in D.C.?”
He said, “Dean’s giving a foreign policy speech on Monday, …
and there’s another place you gotta be.”
So I got on the plane and now I’m back in Iraq,
Got jet lag and I’m feelin’ a little cruddy.
I told G-Dub’s henchmen, “What’s going on, I thought we had a deal…”
And one of ‘em said, “Get in the hole, buddy.”
Posted by: El presidente Saddam at October 15, 2004 01:48 PM
*
we got some real
good pomesters dis mornin eh?
dawn of a new age.
"Roasting marshmallows at the apocalypse...
Reading the cRapture fairy tale.
We set free the victimless criminals.
And, the fascist crooks all went to jail."
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 01:48 PM
US asks Britain to deploy troops in more parts of Iraq: TV
24 minutes ago Politics - AFP
LONDON (AFP) - The United States wants Britain to deploy troops in more volatile parts of Iraq (news - web sites), as a new offensive on insurgent-held Fallujah looms, reports from Britain said.
"Ministry of Defence sources have told Channel Four News that the US military has lodged a formal request for our troops to cover forces which are to be re-deployed for a renewed offensive against insurgents in the rebel city of Fallujah," Britain's Channel Four television said on its website, www.channel4.com.
"Its understood that the commanding officer of the reserve betallion of the Black Watch is looking at a request for some 650 personnel to provide cover for the Americans," it said.
Some 8,000 British troops are currently in Iraq but they are all in the relatively quiet, oil-rich south of the country, with their headquarters in Basra city.
Posted by: tonid at October 15, 2004 01:53 PM
Nik E,
Been seeing lots of Kerry/Edwards signs in Repub.
DuPage county.
Posted by: tonid at October 15, 2004 01:43 PM
People round here are kinda funny. They vote Repub. for president HUGE ... but we've got 3/3 reps to congress are dems. Its pretty weird. Then again, the reps are not exactly "liberal". Pro-clear skies, pro-patriot act, pro-tax cut for the rich. I tear them a new one about once a week. The one senator does not even list party-affiliation on his official website:
http://conrad.senate.gov/
Posted by: Nik E Poo at October 15, 2004 01:54 PM
eya NEP, Jdoc03?
was a labor of love eh?
had a lotta help with it from 01'
figgered it would help others
with poopie memory banks
like my ol clunker
used brain!
gonna post a
few of KP's rants
as we get closer for
the sheer brilliance and
fun of it all. he would have dug this!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 01:55 PM
.S. Probes if GIs Refused Iraq Mission
36 minutes ago Middle East - AP
By JOHN J. LUMPKIN, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - The Army is investigating reports that several members of a reservist supply unit in Iraq (news - web sites) refused to go on a convoy mission, the military said Friday. Relatives of the soldiers said the troops considered the mission too dangerous.
The reservists are from the 343rd Quartermaster Company, which is based in Rock Hill, S.C. The unit delivers food and water in combat zones.
According to The Clarion-Ledger newspaper in Jackson, Miss., a platoon of 17 soldiers refused to go on a fuel supply mission Wednesday because their vehicles were in poor shape and they did not have a capable armed escort.
The paper cited interviews with family members of some of the soldiers, who said the soldiers had been confined after their refusals. The mission was carried out by other soldiers from the 343rd, which has at least 120 soldiers, the military said.
Convoys in Iraq are frequently subject to ambushes and roadside bombings.
Posted by: tonid at October 15, 2004 01:55 PM
hey hey...gotta run, be back in 2or3hrs
when fashion meets fundamentalism
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/15/international/europe/15veil.html?oref=login&hp
johnnys good, but after comes "from nothingness to eternity"
http://wfmu.org/listen.ram?show=5565&starttime=2:35:34
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zakir
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummersound/zakirhussein.ram
http://www.drummerworld.com/drum12/zakirhussein5.jpg
i've been reading about beatrice wood
http://www.wic.org/bio/bwood.htm
Posted by: dadalux at October 15, 2004 01:56 PM
Posted by: The Bush Administration's Lizard Leper Cocks' circle jerk...we got Condi in the middle at October 15, 2004 01:40 PM
-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Is Condi's clitoris that big????
Wow.. i'm gonna puke and it's MY OWN DAMN FAULT!
Posted by: Scoopster_RI at October 15, 2004 01:57 PM
strange...no pictures of gilbert godfrey in the google images
...the plot thickens
howie mandel and gilbert godfrey
http://www.suegersten.com/famous_peop/famous_p22.htm
Hey Dada -
Try spelling it Gilbert Gottfried
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at October 15, 2004 04:06 AM
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i cant believe i made a mistake like that...must have been real tired last night
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woooo!
one of my favorite drummers
billy cobham, spectrum
http://www.geocities.com/sgbstorage/cobham.html
quadrant 4
http://www.angelfire.com/ny/bolinfan/mp3s/quad.mp3
we like to call him billy kaboom!
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john mclaughlin "in a silent way"
frankfurt, 1992
http://www.italway.it/morrone/InASilentWay.mp3
Posted by: dadalux at October 15, 2004 01:59 PM
BTW if anyone knows where I can get Franke's interview with Alan Colmes like -now- before it' posted to the archives on AAP, help me out!
Posted by: Scoopster_RI at October 15, 2004 01:59 PM
gonna post a
few of KP's rants
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 01:55 PM
Sonds cool! ... well ... looks like lunch break is over ... gotta head back to work ... adios all!
Posted by: Nik E Poo at October 15, 2004 02:02 PM
See this headline? Just read further down. Of course they don't tag that on their headline!!!
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Greenspan says oil price agony milder than in 1970s
1 hour, 8 minutes ago Business - AFP
WASHINGTON (AFP) - Soaring oil prices should inflict less damage on US economic growth and inflation than the 1970s oil shock, Federal Reserve (news - web sites) chairman Alan Greenspan (news - web sites) revealed.
But the harm could intensify if oil prices moved "materially higher," he warned.
"The impact of the current surge in oil prices, though noticeable, is likely to prove less consequential to economic growth and inflation than in the 1970s," Greenspan said Friday.
Oil prices now were only three-fifths of the peak in February 1981 after accounting for inflation, and the rise in imported oil prices amounted to about 0.75 percent of economic output, he said.
"The effects were far larger in the crises of the 1970s," Greenspan said in a prepared speech here to the National Italian American Foundation.
"But, obviously, the risk of more serious negative consequences would intensify if oil prices were to move materially higher," he said.
Posted by: tonid at October 15, 2004 02:04 PM
Ok ... one more thing ...
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1963&e=25&u=/ap/20041015/ap_on_el_pr/bush_thong_pyramid
Posted by: Nik E Poo at October 15, 2004 02:05 PM
When churches head left
Thu Oct 14, 5:03 PM ET
By John Leo
America's mainline Protestant churches are in trouble. One sign is shrinking membership. Another is turning their political policymaking over to fringe leftists whose deepest instinct is to blame America and pummel Israel whenever possible. The latest disgrace is the Presbyterian Church's plan for selective divestment in Israel--ending the church's investment in multinational companies that the church believes bear particular responsibility for the sufferings of the Palestinian people. For example, the Presbyterians say they may divest themselves of Caterpillar stock, because bulldozers made by that company are used to level Palestinian homes in Israel's antiterrorism campaign. Of course, these bulldozers can also be used to move debris after Palestinian suicide bombers have finished blowing up another round of women, children, and other civilian bystanders in Israel.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=926&e=12&u=/usnews/whenchurchesheadleft
Posted by: tonid at October 15, 2004 02:21 PM
Poll: Bush Allies See Greater Terror Risk
Mon Oct 11,11:06 PM ET White House - AP
By WILL LESTER, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - More than two-thirds of the people living in Australia, Britain and Italy — three countries allied with the United States in the Iraq (news - web sites) war — believe the war has increased the threat of terrorism.
Leaders of those countries — prime ministers Tony Blair (news - web sites) of Britain and John Howard of Australia and Premier Silvio Berlusconi of Italy — all get low marks from their people for their handling of the war on terrorism, an Associated Press-Ipsos poll shows.
More than half of those in the United States, 52 percent, believe the Iraq war has increased the threat of terrorism, while three in 10 in the United States think it has decreased the threat — a view promoted by President Bush (news - web sites).
"In the context of the presidential campaign in the United States, this is undeniably a blow for George W. Bush, since it shows that a majority of Americans don't agree with the main justification for his policy in Iraq," said Gilles Corman, research director at Ipsos-Inra of Belgium, who studies public opinion trends across Europe.
Posted by: tonid at October 15, 2004 02:27 PM
US judge hears lawsuit over rejected voter registrations in Florida
26 minutes ago U.S. National - AFP
MIAMI (AFP) - A US federal judge started hearing a lawsuit calling for the inclusion on Florida's voter rolls of about 10,000 people whose registration forms were rejected because they were not properly filled out.
Judge James Lawrence King told the parties he was putting the case on a fast track as the US elections are just over two weeks away.
The AFL-CIO trade union and others have filed the lawsuit claiming that keeping people off the voter rolls because they did not properly fill out registration forms was a violation of electoral legislation. They claimed a disproportionate number of blacks and Hispanics were among those kept off voter rolls.
Posted by: tonid at October 15, 2004 02:30 PM
Under the Radar: U.S. To Double Troop Presence in Colombia
News Report/Analysis, Bill Weinberg,
Pacific News Service, Oct 14, 2004
Editor's Note: With little media attention, the U.S. Congress recently doubled the number of U.S. military advisors allowed in Colombia. Meanwhile, hundreds of thousands of Colombians marched for an end to the Western Hemisphere's longest-running and bloodiest war.
Colombia makes few headlines in the United States these days. But Washington's involvement in the Western Hemisphere's longest, bloodiest war is rapidly escalating, as the world's attention is elsewhere. The latest signal of increased U.S. embroilment comes just as a vocal civil movement is emerging in Colombia to demand an end to the war.
The U.S. Congress approved last weekend a doubling of the Pentagon's troop presence in Colombia, where a wave of protest has erupted as some 1.4 million public-sector workers walked off their jobs and took to the streets for a one-day strike. Organized by major trade unions as well as civil organizations, the Oct. 12 strike demanded an end both to President Alvaro Uribe's push to join Bush's Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA), and to the rights abuses and atrocities associated with the government's counter-guerrilla war -- which the United States has funded to the tune of $3.3 billion since Plan Colombia was passed in 2000.
http://news.pacificnews.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=3ce1174f15f051f05a94b5f2b1214372
Posted by: Bart at October 15, 2004 02:31 PM
The vote in Washington two days earlier doubled the cap on U.S. military advisors in Colombia to 800, and raised the cap on the number of U.S. civilian contract agents -- pilots, intelligence analysts, security personnel -- from 400 to 600. The measure came as a little-noticed part of the 2005 Defense Department authorization act, and was a defeat for human rights groups that were pushing for a lower cap. The new 800/600 cap is exactly what the White House asked for. An earlier House version would have set a 500 cap for military personnel and kept the cap for civilian contractors at 400, but this was rejected in joint committee. A proposal establishing these caps in the Senate -- known as the Byrd amendment for Sen. Robert Byrd (D-W.V.) -- was defeated in June by a vote of 58 to 40. Among the two senators who abstained was John Kerry.
The authorization measure is ostensibly aimed at helping the Colombian government fight "against narcotics trafficking and against activities by organizations designated as terrorists," naming the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC), the National Liberation Army (ELN) and the United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia (AUC). But rights groups point to a long record of close collaboration between Colombia's armed forces and the AUC, a rightist paramilitary group. And while U.S. troops are officially barred from actual combat missions in Colombia, many fear that Washington is on a slippery slope.
http://news.pacificnews.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=3ce1174f15f051f05a94b5f2b1214372
Posted by: Bart at October 15, 2004 02:34 PM
October 15, 2004
OP-ED COLUMNIST
Block the Vote
By PAUL KRUGMAN
arlier this week former employees of Sproul & Associates (operating under the name Voters Outreach of America), a firm hired by the Republican National Committee to register voters, told a Nevada TV station that their supervisors systematically tore up Democratic registrations.
The accusations are backed by physical evidence and appear credible. Officials have begun a criminal investigation into reports of similar actions by Sproul in Oregon.
Republicans claim, of course, that they did nothing wrong - and that besides, Democrats do it, too. But there haven't been any comparably credible accusations against Democratic voter-registration organizations. And there is a pattern of Republican efforts to disenfranchise Democrats, by any means possible.
Some of these, like the actions reported in Nevada, involve dirty tricks. For example, in 2002 the Republican Party in New Hampshire hired an Idaho company to paralyze Democratic get-out-the-vote efforts by jamming the party's phone banks.
But many efforts involve the abuse of power. For example, Ohio's secretary of state, a Republican, tried to use an archaic rule about paper quality to invalidate thousands of new, heavily Democratic registrations.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/15/opinion/15krugman.html?oref=login&th=&pagewanted=print&position=
Posted by: tonid at October 15, 2004 02:36 PM
A speaker for the life of the planet.
http://www.alternet.org/envirohealth/20180/
The Long Way Home
By Kenny Ausubel, AlterNet. Posted October 15, 2004.
The awful truth is that global warming is just the tip of the melting iceberg. Fortunately, unprecedented numbers of people are affirming that our destiny is inextricably tied to the well-being of the web of life.
Exerpts:
The American Revolution is a work in progress. As we move toward a Declaration of Interdependence, our greatest work is yet to come.
Even in these darkest of times – no, especially in these darkest of times – we gather as bioneers to celebrate life. It's what the Tibetans call "crazy wisdom." As Tom Robbins writes, "Crazy wisdom is the wisdom that evolves when one, while refusing to avert one's gaze from the sorrows and injustices of the world, insists on joy in spite of everything. Ancient Egyptians believed that when a person died, the gods immediately placed his or her heart in one pan of a set of scales. In the other pan was a feather. If there was imbalance, if the heart of the deceased weighed more than the feather, he or she was denied admittance to the afterworld. Only the lighthearted were deemed advanced enough to merit immortality."
Several years ago, we held an evening round table on Ecological Medicine here at the Bioneers conference. A midwife got up from the audience to speak. She said she viewed the state of the world through the lens of her work. There comes a moment during labor when a woman knows she cannot possibly draw another excruciating breath; cannot endure even one more agonizing contraction. Right then, said the midwife, she knows the baby is about to be born.
The baby is being born. These are birth pains.
Keep the faith.
Author and filmmaker Kenny Ausubel is the founder and co-executive director of Bioneers. The 15th annual Bioneers conference takes place Oct. 15-17, at Marin Center in San Rafael, Calif.
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 02:39 PM
"This amounts to authorization of increased involvement by U.S. troops in an internal armed conflict in Colombia," says Kimberly Stanton, deputy director of the Washington Office on Latin America (WOLA). "And it was passed without significant public debate. We are sliding into a protracted civil war in Colombia."
In the general strike, hundreds of thousands of workers, joined by peasants and students, shut down cities throughout the country. Bogota's central square, Bolivar Plaza, was filled with some 300,000 people -- Colombia's largest protest in recent memory. Business was also paralyzed in Medellin, Cali, Barranquilla, Bucaramanga and Cartagena, and traffic was blocked on the Pan-American Highway. In addition to protesting the war and FTAA plans, the strikers also opposed Uribe's scheme to alter the constitution to allow himself to seek another term in office. The hardline Uribe, Bush's closest ally in South America, has refused to negotiate with the FARC, Colombia's biggest guerilla army. A negotiated settlement to the conflict was among the strikers' demands.
An Oct. 11 New York Times story on the troop cap authorization claimed that "Under Mr. Uribe's administration, violence has ebbed in Colombia." But Colombia human rights groups say that atrocities have more than doubled since Uribe took office in 2002.
http://news.pacificnews.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=3ce1174f15f051f05a94b5f2b1214372
Posted by: Bart at October 15, 2004 02:40 PM
The Seattle Post-Intelligencer reports: "The chief of the Selective Service System has proposed registering women for the military draft and requiring that young Americans regularly inform the government about whether they have training in niche specialties needed in the armed services. . . [and] also seeks to extend the age of draft registration to 34 years old, up from 25."
The message is clear: THE DRAFT IS COMING BACK -- SOON.
Posted by: Bart at October 15, 2004 02:42 PM
The Seattle Post-Intelligencer reports: "The chief of the Selective Service System has proposed registering women for the military draft and requiring that young Americans regularly inform the government about whether they have training in niche specialties needed in the armed services. . . [and] also seeks to extend the age of draft registration to 34 years old, up from 25."
The message is clear: THE DRAFT IS COMING BACK -- SOON.
Posted by: Bart at October 15, 2004 02:42 PM
-=-=-=-=-=-
Read this.
The bill that the House voted on a couple weeks ago wasn't an actual draft bill.
This one is:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.3598:
Posted by: Scoopster_RI at October 15, 2004 02:48 PM
The Congressional vote also coincided with the release of a new Amnesty International report, "Colombia: Violence Against Women," which finds that rape and other sexual crimes -- including genital mutilation -- are frequently used by both the paramilitaries and the official security forces against communities accused of collaborating with the guerrillas. The report says the guerrillas, in turn, have used similar brutal tactics against those thought to be collaborating with the army or paramilitaries.
"Women and girls are raped, sexually abused and even killed because they behave in ways deemed as unacceptable to the combatants, or because women may have challenged the authority of armed groups, or simply because women are viewed as a useful target on which to inflict humiliation on the enemy," said Susan Lee, director of Amnesty's Americas program.
The vote also came days after yet another peasant leader was assassinated. On Oct. 6, the body of Pedro Jaime Mosquera Cosme, an Afro-Colombian leader of the Campesino Association of Arauca, was found near the Venezuelan border, with what the group called "clear signs of torture." Arauca is one of the most violent of Colombia's departments, where numerous campesino leaders have been killed by paramilitaries and the army in recent years.
Rights advocates fear that in next year's Defense Dept. authorization act, Congressional hardliners will again push to get the cap on U.S. troop levels raised -- or done away with altogether, as proposed by Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-CA). WOLA's Stanton says the lack of media coverage of the vote --and Colombia generally -- is a bad sign. "The American people are not aware that we are increasingly involved," she says, "with all attention focused on Iraq."
http://news.pacificnews.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=3ce1174f15f051f05a94b5f2b1214372
Posted by: Bart at October 15, 2004 02:48 PM
Well, come on all you bring strong men (and women)
Uncle Sam needs your help again
Got himself in a terrible jam
Down in the deserts of Iraq
So put down your books, pick up a gun
We're gonna have a whole lot of fun......
And it's 1, 2, 3, what are we fighting for?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn
Next stop is Iraq and Iran.
Posted by: English Opium Eater at October 15, 2004 02:49 PM
Bill O'Reilly's Favorite Band?
The Buzzcocks!
Posted by: Zack at October 15, 2004 03:00 PM
You know, O'Reilly didn't hit on Janeane, he hit on Sam instead. Ewwww......
Posted by: English Opium Eater at October 15, 2004 03:03 PM
Sam's a cool guy, but not that cool, if you know what I mean.
Posted by: English Opium Eater at October 15, 2004 03:04 PM
If you are in debt, look at the national debt, and you won't feel so bad...
Posted by: English Opium Eater at October 15, 2004 03:05 PM
Remember, Bill is a highly moral man. But, supposedly, the woman accusing him of this atrocity quit, but then came back, despite the fact that the harassment was going on during this time. Is that true?
Posted by: English Opium Eater at October 15, 2004 03:06 PM
"Follow the Money"
"Experts from the Center for AIDS Prevention Studies at the University of California, San Francisco, no longer sit on the presidential AIDS advisory council; they have been replaced by a former beauty queen who lectures on abstinence and an antigay evangelical barnstormer from Turning Point ministries."
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20041101&s=kaplan
Posted by: Nobody at October 15, 2004 03:06 PM
QUE PENSENT LES FRANCAIS DE NOS ELECTIONS??
QUE PENSENT-IL de notre government et notre president
Posted by: at October 15, 2004 03:07 PM
Since I seem to be the only one on this blog,
I watched The Newsroom last night, a great TV series from our friends north of the border.
I'm sick of everything with this eletion.
And why do Sam and Janeane always bicker? They should get along, they agree on everything.
Posted by: English Opium Eater at October 15, 2004 03:08 PM
G'day gang.
Bounce yer boobies, people!
Oh hell yeah.
I'm gonna take the brassie out to the deck!
brb
BOUNCE YER BOOBIES!
Posted by: Liberal-at-large at October 15, 2004 03:08 PM
Bill O'Reilly needs some abstinence "training".
Posted by: English Opium Eater at October 15, 2004 03:09 PM
http://www.bushgreenwatch.org/
October 15, 2004
EPA, Interior Continue to
Tighten Public Information
Last week, when the House Committee on Government Reform approved new whistle-blower protection legislation, the Bush administration quickly objected, saying such protections would open the door to gratuitous complaints against its officials.
well worth the read. folks being told
to keep their mouths shut to protect
horrible legislation and budgeting.
this is a good site, good writers.
http://www.bushgreenwatch.org/
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 03:11 PM
Karl Rove Testifies for 2.5 hours before grand jury, under oath, about Plame leak.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041015/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/cia_leak_1
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/10/15/132128/91
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-10-15-rove_x.htm
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/NotedNow/story?id=156246
Posted by: Scoopster_RI at October 15, 2004 03:12 PM
If you are in debt, look at the national debt, and you won't feel so bad...
Posted by: English Opium Eater at October 15, 2004 03:05 PM
-=-=-=-=-
You should, since your personal debt is $85K higher because of that national debt...
Posted by: Scoopster_RI at October 15, 2004 03:13 PM
I just KNEW Randi was going to talk about Mary Cheney today - Hope you 'outraged' people are paying close attention. ;)
Much Ado About Nothing!
Posted by: Gay Boi Charlie at October 15, 2004 03:15 PM
"U.S. declines to endorse women’s rights statement"
"The United States has refused to join 85 heads of state and government in signing a statement that endorses a 10-year-old U.N. plan to ensure every woman’s right to education, health care and choice about having children."
http://www.columbiatribune.com/2004/Oct/20041014News013.asp
Posted by: Nobody at October 15, 2004 03:16 PM
--O'Reilly, who is 55 and married, defended himself on his Fox show the last two nights and on the "Live With Regis and Kelly" program yesterday, saying: "I knew that by filing this lawsuit I was going to perhaps ruin my career. . . . If I have to go down, I'm willing to do it. But I've got to make a stand."---
If I have to go down, I'm willing to do it.
Posted by: drome at October 15, 2004 03:17 PM
Where was the Cheney family outrage when Alan Keyes called Mary a "selfish hedonist?"
Hmmmmmmmm...?????
Posted by: Gay Boi Charlie at October 15, 2004 03:18 PM
I'm outraged at the outrage!!!!!!
Posted by: Bart at October 15, 2004 03:20 PM
hee hee!
the lil grey squirrel
is teasing Jax and ruz again!
eya LaL! mornin scoopster and EOE,
i can sense peeps getting a handle on
the immensity of this all, gaining
a profound and scary world view!
no doubt that this election
is crucial to life
on the planet.
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 03:20 PM
According to inside sources his next plan has something to do with going through the furniture cushions at the whitehouse...
"Bush plans pension raid to stay afloat"
"Less than a day after President George Bush implied that his Democratic challenger John Kerry lacked "fiscal sanity", the Administration said it had hit the debt ceiling set by Congress and would have to borrow money set aside for federal employees' pensions until after the election."
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/15/1097784046643.html
Posted by: Nobody at October 15, 2004 03:20 PM
The problem is....
Mary Cheney has eaten more pussy than Dick Cheney ever will. Lynne is dying for some good cunnilingus from her hubby. Perhaps Lynne is a frustrated lesbian? Oh, the possibilities....
Posted by: English Opium Eater at October 15, 2004 03:21 PM
The US thinks women should be in the kitchen, making their men dinner and worshipping them.
What is wrong with this country? It's not a liberal or conservative thing....the problems here are so deep. This country turns people into animals...
Posted by: English Opium Eater at October 15, 2004 03:23 PM
anyone listen to/watch
democracy now 2day?
draftdodgers and Amy
Goodman hella kickass
Posted by: Bart at October 15, 2004 03:24 PM
If you are voting for Kerry, keep your wits about you in the coming weeks.
DO NOT be a useful fool for Republican dirty tricks.
Here's one of the ways the game is played by Rove and his merry tricksters:
http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/000119.html
DIRTY TRICKS MONTH:
REPUBLICANS HAVE NOT LEARNED THEIR FLYER LESSON
WHAT IS IT WITH THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IN THE SOUTH and disgusting political flyers and mailers?
A nasty flyer has turned up in Tennesse politics which depicts a handicapped athlete running on a track with George Bush's face pasted on.
http://www.traditionalvalues.org/images/BushOlympics.JPG
The text reads:
"Voting for Bush is Like Running in the Special Olympics -- Even if You Win, You're Still Retarded."
The Traditional Values Coalition and other right-wing operations in the South jumped on this fast, alleging that Tennessee Democrat Craig Fitzhugh's office, which shares space with the Kerry/Edwards Campaign, was distributing this flyer.
I have just spoken to Fitzhugh's office -- and here are the facts so far.
First, the Chairman of the Democratic Party, Randy Button, and Craig Fitzhugh have denied that these flyers were produced and/or distributed by Fitzhugh's or the campaign office.
Remember when the equally nasty RNC mailer emerged in West Virginia and Arkansas?
It took more than a week for Ed Gillespie and the RNC, which originally disavowed knowledge of the mailer, to own up that the "ban the Bible" mailer was an RNC product. In this case, the denial from the Dems is immediate and firm.
Fitzhugh's office reported to me that they have asked the District Attorney's office to investigate and looks at this flyer and the attempt to pin it on Fitzhugh as a disgusting -- but more importantly -- an illegal act.
What has been reported is that these flyers were left in a trash can in Fitzhugh's office. No one on Fitzhugh's staff or among campaign volunteers saw that these flyers had been deposited by anyone in the gar
Posted by: dr at October 15, 2004 03:24 PM
http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/000119.html
(concluded)
Fitzhugh's office reported to me that they have asked the District Attorney's office to investigate and looks at this flyer and the attempt to pin it on Fitzhugh as a disgusting -- but more importantly -- an illegal act.
What has been reported is that these flyers were left in a trash can in Fitzhugh's office. No one on Fitzhugh's staff or among campaign volunteers saw that these flyers had been deposited by anyone in the garbage.
Shortly after some unknown individual dropped the flyers in the trash can, another individual came into the office and found the flyers in Fitzhugh's trash -- and then made this public.
Coincidence? I think not. I hope the D.A. goes after these culprits and nails them hard.
This appears to be a classic dirty trick.
But when the dust clears on this one -- despite the efforts of Fox News and the Traditional Values Coalition to try to keep this mailer linked to Democrats -- the RNC has to not only live with its admission of producing and distributing a duplicitous, homophobic mailer but that it has produced a culture in its party where this kind of political prank seems to be becoming a norm.
-- Steve Clemons
______________
It's gonna be a bumpy ride. Keep your head up and don't allow yourself to get played.
Posted by: dr at October 15, 2004 03:26 PM
"Nobody wants a draft, but what if we need one?"
"In recent weeks, the ongoing military strain of deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan combined with Internet-based gossip has led to growing concern that the government may reinstate the military draft for the first time since the Vietnam War. It didn't help that Rock the Vote, a generally liberal organization dedicated to increasing the vote among young people, sent out fake draft notices last month to 640,000 e-mail addresses."
Posted by: Nobody at October 15, 2004 03:29 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3736580.stm
How does the Electoral College work?
Each state is given the same number of electors in the Electoral College as the total of its US senators (always two) and its members of the House of Representatives, which are determined by the size of the state's population.
There are 538 electors in the College with numbers per state ranging from three to 55. In all but two states, Maine and Nebraska, the College works on a winner-takes-all basis. The winner of the popular vote in a state gets all the Electoral College votes in that state.
To become president, a candidate needs 270 Electoral College votes. The winning candidate does not need to win the national popular vote.
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 03:29 PM
http://www.debates.org/pages/trans2004b.html
EDWARDS:
[snip]
Now, as to this question, let me say first that I think the vice president and his wife love their daughter. I think they love her very much. And you can't have anything but respect for the fact that they're willing to talk about the fact that they have a gay daughter, the fact that they embrace her. It's a wonderful thing. And there are millions of parents like that who love their children, who want their children to be happy."
[snip]
IFILL: Mr. Vice President, you have 90 seconds.
CHENEY: Well, Gwen, let me simply thank the senator for the kind words he said about my family and our daughter. I appreciate that very much.
IFILL: That's it?
CHENEY: That's it.
Posted by: nony at October 15, 2004 03:31 PM
SIEG HEIL!
Yeah, read about how BushCo & its Brownshirts are destroying our country.
Oregon Police Fire on Crowd of Protesters - AP
JACKSONVILLE, Ore. - Police in riot gear fired pepperballs Thursday night to disperse a crowd of protesters assembled in this historic gold mining town where President Bush (news - web sites) was spending the night after a campaign appearance.
Where Did These Conservatives Come From?
The Brownshirting of America
By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS
James Bovard, the great libertarian champion of our freedom and civil liberties, recently shared with readers his mail from Bush supporters (Lewrockwell.com, October 12). For starters here are some of the salutations: "communist bastard," "asshole," "a piece of trash, scum of the earth." It goes downhill from there.
Posted by: Liberal-at-large at October 15, 2004 03:31 PM
--Officials of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) believe that the stripping of several Iraqi dual-use nuclear facilities, from which significant quantities of equipment and material have been removed since the country was occupied by the US in 2003, must have been carried out by professionals with access to heavy moving and demolition machinery, unnamed diplomats told Reuters news agency on Friday.---
http://www.isn.ethz.ch/news/sw/details.cfm?id=9954
Posted by: drome at October 15, 2004 03:32 PM
"This week's casualty:the legal case for war in Iraq"
"It can only be a matter of time before the invasion is challenged in court"
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/comment/0,12956,1327944,00.html
"Secret papers warned Blair war on Iraq was 'illegal'"
"Secret government documents show that Tony Blair was warned by his own advisers a year before going to war that there was no growing threat from Saddam Hussein and that invading Iraq would be illegal."
http://www.capetimes.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=272&fArticleId=2262116
Posted by: Nobody at October 15, 2004 03:33 PM
SIEG HEIL!
Yeah, read about how BushCo & its Brownshirts are destroying our country.
Oregon Police Fire on Crowd of Protesters - AP
JACKSONVILLE, Ore. - Police in riot gear fired pepperballs Thursday night to disperse a crowd of protesters assembled in this historic gold mining town where President Bush (news - web sites) was spending the night after a campaign appearance.
Where Did These Conservatives Come From?
The Brownshirting of America
By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS
James Bovard, the great libertarian champion of our freedom and civil liberties, recently shared with readers his mail from Bush supporters (Lewrockwell.com, October 12). For starters here are some of the salutations: "communist bastard," "asshole," "a piece of trash, scum of the earth." It goes downhill from there.
Posted by: Liberal-at-large at October 15, 2004 03:34 PM
Nuclear material missing...chaos in Iraq...jobs outsourced.....but I still love my god, George W. Bush, maybe the greatest man who ever walked this Earth. He's doing a great job, he really is, he's really a great, graet guy, he really, really is, I love him, he's great, magnificent, I love him so much.....
Wolf Blitzer........
Posted by: English Opium Eater at October 15, 2004 03:34 PM
"Platoon defies orders in Iraq"
"A 17-member Army Reserve platoon with troops from Jackson and around the Southeast deployed to Iraq is under arrest for refusing a "suicide mission" to deliver fuel, the troops' relatives said Thursday."
http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041015/NEWS01/410150366/1002
Posted by: Nobody at October 15, 2004 03:36 PM
Bill O'Reilly needs some abstinence "training".
Posted by: English Opium Eater at October 15, 2004 03:09 PM
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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Mahmoud's Falafel Retaurant
Corner of Park & Crown Streets
New Haven, CT
I KID YOU NOT THIS RESTAURANT IS REAL, I'VE EATEN THERE. Excellent kebobs and pita pockets!
Posted by: Scoopster_RI at October 15, 2004 03:37 PM
L@L:
Those salutations for James Bovard are wildly unoriginal. We can, and should, do much better.
Dear Drunk Driver in Chief
Dear Satanic Sclerosis
Dear Cat Killer
Dear Inbred Pennsylvania Homophobe
Dear Grand Wizard Miller
etc.
Posted by: bibimimi at October 15, 2004 03:41 PM
"O'Reilly, Accuser Air Their Cases"
"Fox News Channel Host Sees Career Threat in Harassment Suit"
"Guys like O'Reilly who like to espouse what right-wing Republicans espouse about family values shouldn't be doing stuff like this," he said, adding: "The man knows he did it. He finally got it through his thick skull that he did it, and he's not going to get away with it. . . . He's going down."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A34312-2004Oct15.html?sub=AR
Posted by: Nobody at October 15, 2004 03:41 PM
somebody better check orielly's socks for d.n.a. evidence.
Posted by: drome at October 15, 2004 03:43 PM
If you didn't see this one coming then you need to promptly smack yourself in the head with something really hard...
"Iraqi President: Vote Could Be Postponed"
"Iraq's president said in an interview published Thursday that the Jan. 31 date for Iraqi elections is ``not sacred'' and the vote could be postponed if if a lack of security threatens the fairness of balloting."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4550746,00.html
Posted by: Nobody at October 15, 2004 03:45 PM
Some of our finest minds opine on this election & cite specific examples of why....
THE SHRUB MUST BE THROWN ON THE BONFIRE OF BAD HISTORY!
The Election and America's Future
By Alan Ryan, Anthony Lewis, Brian Urquhart, Edmund S. Morgan, Garry Wills, Ian Buruma, Kwame Anthony Appiah, Mark Danner, Michael Ignatieff, Norman Mailer, Ronald Dworkin, Russell Baker, Steven Weinberg, Thomas Powers
For what has been called "the most consequential election in decades," we have asked some of our contributors for their views.—The Editors
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/17511
Posted by: Liberal-at-large at October 15, 2004 03:47 PM
"If you didn't see this one coming then you need to promptly smack yourself in the head with something really hard..."
Where's war dog?
I have something for him...
Posted by: at October 15, 2004 03:47 PM
The Fairness doctrine might not still exist but the law requiring equal time does...
"Kerry Campaign Wants to Rebut Film on TV"
"WASHINGTON - Sen. John Kerry presidential campaign, contending that Sinclair Broadcast Group wants to help President Bush by airing an anti-Kerry documentary two weeks before the election, asked on Friday that each station carrying the program provide a similar amount of time to Kerry supporters."
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=487&ncid=696&e=1&u=/ap/20041015/ap_en_ot/kerry_film
Posted by: Nobody at October 15, 2004 03:48 PM
The Fairness doctrine might not still exist but the law requiring equal time does...
"Kerry Campaign Wants to Rebut Film on TV"
"WASHINGTON - Sen. John Kerry presidential campaign, contending that Sinclair Broadcast Group wants to help President Bush by airing an anti-Kerry documentary two weeks before the election, asked on Friday that each station carrying the program provide a similar amount of time to Kerry supporters."
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=487&ncid=696&e=1&u=/ap/20041015/ap_en_ot/kerry_film
Posted by: Nobody at October 15, 2004 03:50 PM
eya N
got some rest?
hows yer bod healin up?
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 03:51 PM
"An Ode To Sean Hannity"
In a fit of intellectual vanity,
"I'm balanced and fair!", cried Sean Hannity.
But, he proved demagogic;
He offered no logic
Or facts, just more right-wing inanity.
Posted by: LiberickMan at October 15, 2004 03:53 PM
"After Rush Limbaugh, who acknowledged an addiction to painkillers, and William Bennett, who admitted he had a gambling habit, O'Reilly -- a television and radio host and best-selling author -- is the latest high-profile conservative commentator to face humiliating allegations. "
Posted by: choice bit at October 15, 2004 03:54 PM
somebody better check orielly's socks for d.n.a. evidence.
Posted by: drome at October 15, 2004 03:43 PM
Naw, he has a crusty hand towel hidden under the bed.
Posted by: ottozdad at October 15, 2004 03:54 PM
O'Reilly, well, at least he's not molesting boys. (Not yet, anyway).
Posted by: English Opium Eater at October 15, 2004 03:56 PM
good lim!
Hannity's a loathsome lil fart
and has proven he's not very smart
he say's i don't mind
as long as i get mine
they pay me well to do my part!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 03:57 PM
Posted by: aka MAT at October 15, 2004 03:59 PM
on the electoral-vote.com website.....
if you look state to state by placing mouse pointer over the state you want to look at....
check out Washington, DC...... 78%kerry, 11% gwb...
this must be because they've had to live around the gwb atmosphere for the last 4 years.....
Posted by: 13ben at October 15, 2004 03:59 PM
4-Star Plans After Abu Ghraib
By John Hendren, Times Staff Writer
WASHINGTON — The Pentagon plans to promote Army Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, former head of military operations in Iraq, risking a confrontation with members of Congress because of the prisoner abuses that occurred during his tenure.
Senior Pentagon officials, including Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and Air Force Gen. Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, have privately told colleagues they are determined to pin a fourth star on Sanchez, two senior defense officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said this week.
Rumsfeld and others recognize that Sanchez remains politically "radioactive," in the words of a third senior defense official, and would wait until after the Nov. 2 presidential election and investigations of the Abu Ghraib scandal have faded before putting his name forward.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na- sanchez15oct15,1,5542135.story?coll=la-headlines-nation
This is OUT-F*CKING-RAGEOUS!!!
Posted by: Sandie in The OC at October 15, 2004 03:59 PM
"Always beware of the politician who talks of morals, because they have none."
Gregory Runfeldt, aka English Opium Eater.
Posted by: English Opium Eater at October 15, 2004 03:59 PM
"I knew I was going to get vilified and vile stuff was going to be put out there," O'Reilly said in a telephone interview. "It's very embarrassing to have this stuff out there. Any human being would be depressed to see this. . . . This is the worst day of my life. . . . I have to protect the people closest to me. If I have to suffer, that's the way it has to be."
Awwwww, poor Bill... he could have thought of these types of feelings he's having now while he was busy smearing Clinton's personal life all over the airwaves.
What goes around comes around, Bill. :p
Posted by: Gay Boi Charlie at October 15, 2004 04:00 PM
O'Reilly, well, at least he's not molesting boys. (Not yet, anyway).
Posted by: English Opium Eater at October 15, 2004 03:56 PM
Least, not that we know of. Remember how long it took alter boys to come out about their priests?
Posted by: ottozdad at October 15, 2004 04:01 PM
Sanchez promoted. Betcha the Dems will roll over on that one, like they always do.
Posted by: English Opium Eater at October 15, 2004 04:01 PM
http://www.publicintegrity.org/default.aspx
Posted by: aka MAT at October 15, 2004 04:02 PM
Good lim yourself, Jim
Don't want Allan to feel left out, do we?
"An Ode To Alan Colmes"
To Hannity's near left sits Colmes
Yes, farther left he never roams.
He's on Sean's beckon call
After fierce verbal brawls
His job's wiping Sean's mouth of foam.
Posted by: LiberickMan at October 15, 2004 04:04 PM
Mornin MAT
hows life goin in yer crew?
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 04:04 PM
Good point, Ottozdad. That's the next big scandal, Republican senator, caught cruising in the forest preserves looking for 12 year old boys to perform lewd acts on him in public. Who is it going to be?
Posted by: English Opium Eater at October 15, 2004 04:04 PM
To Hannity's near left sits Colmes
Yes, farther left he never roams.
He's on Sean's beck-and-call
After fierce verbal brawls
His job's wiping Sean's mouth of foam.
Posted by: LiberickMan at October 15, 2004 04:04 PM
fixed.
Posted by: ottozdad at October 15, 2004 04:05 PM
Oh good, they already have the "better quality download" of Franken at AAPlace. I missed today's and won't be around later.
Posted by: at October 15, 2004 04:07 PM
Hi Sunshine!
Moving along at a rapid pace, having a time keeping up with it.
How about you? Loved those photos. That is a very cute one of B with the doggers! you should frame that one.
Posted by: aka MAT at October 15, 2004 04:07 PM
The war is lost. U.S. Troops in Iraq mutiny.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/101604X.shtml
Posted by: Kingfish at October 15, 2004 04:09 PM
The next step in ramping up the violence methinks...
"Voters may see 'challengers' at polls"
"On Election Day, Cuyahoga County voters may see "challengers" recruited by the political parties to observe the voting and potentially question the eligibility of some voters."
http://www.cleveland.com/election/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/isele/109784700830010.xml
Posted by: Nobody at October 15, 2004 04:09 PM
GEORGE BUSH'S REPUBLICAN PARTY â?” NOT JUST THEIR SURROGATES â?” DESTROYS VOTER REGISTRATIONS OF DEMOCRATS IN BATTLEGROUND STATE
George Knapp, Investigative Reporter
Voter Fraud Allegations Headed to Court
(Oct. 14) -- Another eyewitness has come forward with allegations of improprieties in voter registration. This witness says she worked directly for the Republican party.
Unlike the allegations leveled earlier this week by another former field registrar, this source, Patricia Parker, does not claim to have seen registration forms torn up or tossed away. But she says she and others were told to do exactly that by their Republican employers.
"The person I went out with each day, her and I talked about it. Why throw them away? Why can't we just register them?" asked Patricia Parker.
She says she worked for less than two weeks as a voter registrar for the state Republican Party. She and others walked neighborhoods to sign up voters, but only Republican voters. She says her supervisors at the party, two women named Monica and Drea, told the employees what they should do with any registrations they received from Democrats.
"Just do whatever you want to with it. Dispose of it or bring it back here and we will dispose of it," Parker said.
Parker says she never did it and never saw it done but knows that Democratic forms were returned to the office. She says she wasn't a disgruntled employee but did feel guilty about what she was doing.
A state party official told Eyewitness News that the charges are outright lies. He acknowledged there was a door-to-door registration campaign and that Monica and Drea do work for the party but said there is no way anyone would issue instructions to destroy valid registrations, even from Democrats.
Parker's allegations mirror those leveled earlier by Eric Russell who worked for a company called Voters Outreach of America, funded by the national Republican Party. Russell says he witnessed the destruction of voter registration forms by his supervisor at Voters Outreach, a woman named Jeannie Morgan.
Voters Outreach closed up shop and left Las Vegas last week, but reached by phone, Morgan b
Posted by: at October 15, 2004 04:11 PM
Tanks MAT
glad you enjoyed them!
we usually travel a lot but
not this year. we think it's
important to save up and
pay down the bills. me
bein cripped out is
a slow down but
we gettin by.
c'mon up
sometime
and we'll be
your base camp
for exploring BC!
Seattle is way saner
then SD for sure, u'd like it!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 04:14 PM
I guess when the Repubs warned us a ways back that felons would be going around door-to-door trying to get folks to register, and you should be afraid to deal with them, they knew whereof they spoke!
Posted by: nony at October 15, 2004 04:16 PM
O'Reilly flips from attack dog to victim with lightning speed. He's a loathesome whiny predator.
Posted by: bibimimi at October 15, 2004 04:17 PM
O'Reilly flips from attack dog to victim with lightning speed. He's a loathesome whiny predator.
Limp tail between his legs
Posted by: at October 15, 2004 04:19 PM
eya nony
welcome to the bloggie.
lotta new nicks lately and it's
good to see ya!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 04:19 PM
eya BB
afternoon, hows it goin round you?
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 04:21 PM
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 04:14 PM
I want out of here so bad sunny j. But I gave a promise to my youngest girlie that we would stay put till she got out of High school (long story as to why the promise.) I horor my promises so here I will stay. But boy with the help of the internet I sure have learned alot so where ever I finally end up should be a real doozee!
Posted by: aka MAT at October 15, 2004 04:24 PM
Well I'm going to go rest for a couple of hours...
Keep hammering at it or become victims of Bushs holy war...
Posted by: Nobody at October 15, 2004 04:25 PM
Rove Testifies in CIA Leak Investigation
by Curt Anderson
Associated Press
WASHINGTON - President Bush's top political adviser, Karl Rove, testified Friday before a federal grand jury trying to determine who leaked the name of an undercover CIA officer.
Rove spent more than two hours testifying before the panel, according to an administration official who spoke only on condition of anonymity because such proceedings are secret.
Before testifying, Rove was interviewed at least once by investigators probing the leak. Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of State Colin Powell also have been interviewed, though none has appeared before the grand jury.
[snip]
In a widely quoted remark, Wilson said after a speech in 2003 that it might be "fun to see Karl Rove frog-marched out of the White House in handcuffs." Wilson has accused Rove of spreading word of the Novak column to reporters.
Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry's campaign was quick to pounce on news of Rove's appearance, with senior adviser Joe Lockhart issuing a statement calling on Rove and other aides to "come clean about their role in this insidious act."
"If the president sincerely wanted to get to the bottom of this potential crime, he'd stop the White House foot-dragging and fully cooperate with this investigation," Lockhart said.
http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/9929495.htm?1c
Posted by: dr at October 15, 2004 04:26 PM
Hey SJ,
was that photo you sent a whale? It was so beautiful! what was it made of?
Posted by: aka MAT at October 15, 2004 04:31 PM
come home billy mumphrey!
the blog's in a funk!
come home billy mumphrey,
say hello to your unk!
Posted by: Sunshine Mumphrey at October 15, 2004 04:32 PM
Bibi:
~~~Those salutations for James Bovard are wildly unoriginal. We can, and should, do much better.~~~
They weren't for Bovard, specifically; rather, for the BushCo "brownshirts" who were the object of the post. This one was the best of the bunch:
~~~Dear Inbred [Brownshirted] Homophobe~~~ *snark*
I DO appreciate your originality, though, in your suggestions! :)
Posted by: Liberal-at-large at October 15, 2004 04:34 PM
cya N...gsfs, dude! :)
Posted by: Liberal-at-large at October 15, 2004 04:36 PM
cya N...gsfs, dude! :)
hiya Solar One...how's those ol' bones, my friend?
Posted by: Liberal-at-large at October 15, 2004 04:39 PM
Jim-
Like Toni, it's getting cold and wet here. Gonna go home, tug a merlot, get a blanket and my kittens on my lap, and we're gonna have a kitty coma night.
I'm SO busy---statement season here. Everybuddy and his brudda calls.
L@L:
Why are Santorum's eyes SO close together? Did his parents meet at a family reunion?
Posted by: bibimimi at October 15, 2004 04:41 PM
hee hee
billy's out rattling a few cages is my guess!
the Orca sculptures are decorated fibreglas
i believe, an art project that is seen all
over Victoria nd Vancouver. That one is
my favorite so far. one of the better
charity art projects so far.
Orcas' auction raises $258,250 for charity
Matthew Ramsey
The Province
October 13, 2004
CREDIT: Arlen Redekop,
The Province
Barry Scott of Maynards, with two of the Orca sculptures he auctioned off at last night's fundraiser at the Westin Bayshore in Vancouver.
Thirty-two of Vancouver's ornate street Orcas are now swimming in an ocean of tax deduction.
The leaping sculptures that dotted the urban landscape until earlier this month were auctioned off last night at a charity gala at the Westin Bayshore in Vancouver.
Organizers of the auction were hoping to see $100,000 raised for Lions Society of B.C. Easter Seal Operations and Canucks for Kids Fund -- the evening ended up with the charities' purses $258,250 heavier.
The orcas began to pop up on city streets and in office building lobbies in November of last year.
More than 50 local artists -- including Tiko Kerr and Ross Penhall -- were commissioned to lend their talents to the orca calf fibreglass shells designed by Judson Beaumont. The "Orca in the City" project was modelled after similar initiatives, including Toronto's "Moose in the City" and Saskatoon's "Pigs in the City."
http://www.canada.com/vancouver/story.html?id=2c2dccca-cc20-4d79-aab1-1755a3d435a1
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 04:44 PM
boy...ram dass certainly gets some great hash!
hee hee
Posted by: dadalux at October 15, 2004 04:45 PM
its a long story....
Posted by: dadalux at October 15, 2004 04:45 PM
Good `morning' bloggie,
Sorry I was so pissed off last night.
Lng hard night at work. My back hurts so much it is making my knee hurt and I am walking with a limp if I don't stretch several time a day.
It's funny, My back feels better when I stay busy, as soon as I stop lifting or (esp) sit dowwn, the back is reeally painful.
I know Sunshine Jim knows what I'm talking about.
Posted by: chubby_bubba at October 15, 2004 04:46 PM
CROSSFIRE:
John Stewart is SCHOOLIN' Tucker Carlson and Paul Begala on how irresponsible and full of political hackery they are.
Callin' 'em out.
Posted by: dr at October 15, 2004 04:48 PM
hey, bubba!
i loved the bye bye bushie last night
i'm thinking of doing a version as "bye bye mumphrey"
Posted by: dadalux at October 15, 2004 04:48 PM
I wonder if Billy Mumphry was a troll that wanted to annoy us with his silliness.
Well, he's going to be a lot sillier than that to annoy *us*, right gang?
If he was a troll trying to annoy us, imagine how iratating it woud be to become so embraced by us!
Posted by: chubby_bubba at October 15, 2004 04:49 PM
Randi wants us to buy shared in Sinclair Broadcasting and thus obtain some power over them. How does one buy these shares, can we do this in an organized fashion and speak in one voice. If we can do this could we not also do this with Fox News and take over that network?
Posted by: Kingfish at October 15, 2004 04:49 PM
"full of political hackery"
haha! well put, dr
Posted by: dadalux at October 15, 2004 04:49 PM
Yeah dr,
I'm watching Crossfire too.
Best EVER!!!
I know most of us here don't tune in to this painful show (great when Carville is on, but he's a bit preoccupied lately with the Kerry campaign, I'm thinking.)
Stewart is the most honest guy on TV. We're in trouble.
But we already know that.
Tune in for the second half of the interview people.
CNN - right now.
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at October 15, 2004 04:51 PM
Stewart flayed them wide open. Mostly Carlson, who tried to stupidly turn the tables on a guy who runs a comedy show and makes no pretense at upholding the political integrity.
Forget how Stewart phrased it, but something like: "Well, you know, it's a pretty sad day when CNN and other cable networks are looking to Comedy Central as their guide to integrity."
Stewart also said this kind of behavior is killing us. Called the show bad for democracy. It was a great moment.
Will be on Atrios, and others soon, likely.
It was classic and has been needed to be said in a public way for a loooong time now.
Posted by: dr at October 15, 2004 04:53 PM
>>i'm thinking of doing a version as "bye bye mumphrey"
Good Idea!
You certainly won't need any help finding the original lyrics, I find the find/replace tool of word really helpful.
Good luck!
I hope I catch the song. I gotta go back to the salt mine tonight.
I hope I'm not so damned cranky when I get home.
Posted by: chubby_bubba at October 15, 2004 04:54 PM
gotta clean the cat box! pick out all the turds and lumps of piss. mmm! kinda like voting!
See yaz!
PEACE
Posted by: aka MAT at October 15, 2004 04:54 PM
Stewart to Tucker Carlson:
'THIS IS THEATER! LOOK AT YOU! YOU'RE WEARING A BOW TIE!'
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at October 15, 2004 04:54 PM
eya LaL
stiffer den a board here bud!
my back is sayin hello to fall with a vengeance.
rainy and overcast. i'm tryin to figger out what
to do next that'll help out. runnin up a truly
amazing phone bill and having hope we can turn
this around in time to save the whole planet.
wish u could visit and pull up a stump by
the ol potbelly stove and share a toke!
we made a lotta good frenz here eh?
i look at u all as fambly.
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 04:55 PM
>>CNN - right now.
Thanks for the tip!
It is great!
spin alley = deceptoion lane! Priceless!
Posted by: chubby_bubba at October 15, 2004 04:56 PM
OMG! Does Crossfire repeat? JS just called Tucker a dick! LOLOL
Posted by: Cocky-With-Christ at October 15, 2004 04:56 PM
Carlson to Stewart - "You're not as funny on this show as you are on your show."
Stewart to Carlson - "You're as big a dick on your show as on a news show."
Jon, I'm so hetero it hurts, but let me blow you right now!! THANK YOU!!!
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at October 15, 2004 04:57 PM
STEWART VS. CARLSON on Crossfire:
At the close of the segment, Carlson "dismissed" Stewart by saying: "You're a lot more fun on your show."
Stewart then let his anger get away at last with these final words for Carlson: "You know what's interesting? You're {i.e. Carlson] as big a dick on your show as in real life."
Or words to that effect.
Shame is your name, Tucker Carlson. Wear it with pride.
Ass.
Posted by: dr at October 15, 2004 04:58 PM
Unfortunately, Crossfire doesn't repeat.
Damn. Maybe they'll make an exception with this one, but I highly doubt it.
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at October 15, 2004 04:58 PM
eya CB
ya de creakies!
oh well.... from Studs Turkel:
"live hard, die young,
and have a good lookin corpse!"
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 05:00 PM
Sunny J. and anyone else suffering from joint stiffness. Maybe these could help.
Posted by: aka MAT at October 15, 2004 05:01 PM
thanks for correcting my gottfried last nite, goody..
i dont know why my brain locked up like that...i couldnt for the life of me figure out why there were no gilbert godfrey pictures....
its not like me to forget how to spell "gottfried"...
actually gilbertness is next to godliness in my book
minute and a half of ecstatic bliss
http://www.al-oholicsanonymous.com/videos2/WeirdAlShowImaginaryFriend.wmv
Posted by: dadalux at October 15, 2004 05:01 PM
Sunshine Jim...I thought I saw you say that you are from the North Coast, originally. If this is true I wanted to tell you that the sky has already closed in your old stomping grounds. It is down to about 100 feet and is the color of clay. I'm writing to your from good old Summit County where I'm sguessing that we've seen the last of our sunshine until some time in May. Do you remember LAKE EFFECT, Sunshine Jim?
Posted by: Black Ohio Sky at October 15, 2004 05:01 PM
Sunny J. and anyone else suffering from joint stiffness. Maybe these could help.
Posted by: aka MAT at October 15, 2004 05:01 PM
~~~Why are Santorum's eyes SO close together? Did his parents meet at a family reunion?~~~
THAT'S a slow softball, bibi.
Just remember the slang definition of the douchebag's name...heh, heh, heh!
I was rooting for the neocon wingnut who ALMOST beat "Sanitorium" in this year's repuke primary. Now he sucks even harder at Dumbya's teat, amongst other places! :)
It's really all just name-calling! But I like putting labels on the dimwits.
Posted by: Liberal-at-large at October 15, 2004 05:03 PM
Hi guys,
Had to take a nap.
On CNN now , Blitzer is talking about the soldiers that refused a mission.
Blitzer's spin, is it political?
Posted by: tonid at October 15, 2004 05:03 PM
Jon Stewart on Crossfire today - best moment on TV in recent history.
Posted by: PEACE IN at October 15, 2004 05:04 PM
Hey there, dada -
You had an Arthur Godfrey moment. That's all! It was late.
;-)
(The kiddies here scratching their heads, goin' 'Who the fuck's Arthur Godfrey'?)
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at October 15, 2004 05:04 PM
Jon Stewart is a demi-god of truth
That was so hilarious! He actually hi-jacked the whole Crossfire format. He ruled the show and Carlson was left whining about how he didn't like being fed truth. So cool!
Posted by: canadian at October 15, 2004 05:06 PM
The Crossfire transcripts will be here. Get the word out. Jon Stewart, fake newsman, takes on Tucker Carlson, fake human.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/cf.html
Posted by: Kingfish at October 15, 2004 05:08 PM
well Kingfish
good ideer really
take it a lil further
what if all the "junk" americans
incorporated and pooled their bucks and
purchasing powers? now that would put
the fear of 'corporate backfires'
in the current set of fat cats!
we will see 'Buy nothing' days,
weeks and months before this
is all over. Boycotts are
impossible to stop.
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 05:08 PM
PEACE IN -
Definitely agree! Stewart is an American treasure.
(I always wanted to say that about somebody and mean it.)
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at October 15, 2004 05:08 PM
Anyone,
PLease post a link to the show if one pops up. I missed almost all of the only Crossfire ever worth watching.
Posted by: Cocky-With-Christ at October 15, 2004 05:08 PM
Integrity.
The word defies simplicity. Many times it was said to me, integrity means not only truth, but the will of not just words alone.
We can say a lot about telling the truth. We might remind those of us, whom are younger either of age or heart, that George Washington would never tell a lie.
But I think what Senator Kerry mentions, is the honesty in one's self, as much as one's work. The actions by which we resolve our undertaking, not only reflect upon those around us, but most intimately those who raised us. The things by which we are...and the people we can say taught us.
I certainly can say prove to me my discourse, but can can I say to my fellow Americans life is but led outside God's Rule?
Then even if, I asked my mankind's humanity to not cherish His words, then would I be a coward? Nor would this false idolatry, be not shepherd of the flock before thieving wolves in a night?
I can only be who I was...when I was born into this skin. The skull reminds us, we are all bones beneath. We are all the same. But shame before my creed, is not an apology, it is Law. It is Truth. It is Integrity. It is Honesty.
It is the Sword Which Commeth Out of His Mouth. And the righteousness and will to not surrender my prayer for strength.
So it is in this I have no mercy for Republicans. It is in this I will crush your stock market, if my debt is the cup which runneth over.
But do not ask me for mercy. Do not ask me to forgive you.
Because I will have no quarter, and expect none. I have seen the day break over me from a stillness of night, and it was good.
Can you say the same from the other side of the world?
Posted by: -B at October 15, 2004 05:09 PM
this is disturbing, but as a twelve yr Army vet, not surprising unfortunately.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&ncid=721&e=7&u=/ap/20041015/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_unit_investigation
U.S. Probes if GIs Refused Iraq Mission
45 minutes ago Middle East - AP
By JOHN J. LUMPKIN, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - The Army is investigating reports that several members of a reservist supply unit in Iraq (news - web sites) refused to go on a convoy mission, the military said Friday. Relatives of the soldiers said the troops considered the mission too dangerous.
The reservists are from the 343rd Quartermaster Company, which is based in Rock Hill, S.C. The unit delivers food and water in combat zones.
According to The Clarion-Ledger newspaper in Jackson, Miss., a platoon of 17 soldiers refused to go on a fuel supply mission Wednesday because their vehicles were in poor shape and they did not have a capable armed escort.
The paper cited interviews with family members of some of the soldiers, who said the soldiers had been confined after their refusals. The mission was carried out by other soldiers from the 343rd, which has at least 120 soldiers, the military said.
Convoys in Iraq are frequently subject to ambushes and roadside bombings.
A whole unit refusing to go on a mission in a war zone would be a significant breach of military discipline. A statement from the military's press center in Baghdad called the incident "isolated."
"The investigating team is currently in Tallil taking statements and interviewing those involved. This is an isolated incident and it is far too early in the investigation to speculate as to what happened, why it happened or any action that might be taken," the coalition press information center said in the statement, sent to The Associated Press in Washington.
In the statement, U.S. military officials said the commanding general of the 13th Corps Support Command had appointed his deputy commander to investigate the incident.
The statement did not confirm several aspects of the relatives' stories, including the number of soldiers involved and the reason t
Posted by: NAIS at October 15, 2004 05:09 PM
>>"live hard, die young,
and have a good lookin corpse!"
My friend, I hate to tell you this, but for us that baot has already saied.
;-)
Posted by: chubby_bubba at October 15, 2004 05:11 PM
We have to investigate the Insurance Companies. Look how easy it was to intimidate that Actuary when bush pushed this Insurance Drug card on us!!
Insurance Probe Rattles Stocks
13 minutes ago Business - Reuters
By Aleksandrs Rozens and Joseph Giannone
NEW YORK (Reuters) - An investigation into U.S. insurers and brokers rattled insurance industry stocks for a second day on Friday as investors, shaken further by subpoenas delivered to the top U.S. life insurer, struggled to gauge how deep the probe might reach.
Marsh & McLennan Cos. (NYSE:MMC - news), the world's biggest insurance broker, said on Friday it would suspend a controversial practice that is at the heart of the case.
Marsh was sued by New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer on Thursday for steering unsuspecting clients to certain insurers in exchange for lucrative payoffs.
Under the practice, known as market services agreements or contingent commissions, insurers pay brokers to steer business their way. Though the practice is not illegal when disclosed, Spitzer charged Marsh with collecting the payments by rigging bids and fixing prices that inflated costs for clients.
Marsh's move to end the practice did little to help its shares, which plunged an additional 16 percent on Friday after losing nearly a quarter of their market value, or some $6 billion, on Thursday.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=749&e=1&u=/nm/20041015/bs_nm/financial_insurers_dc
Posted by: tonid at October 15, 2004 05:11 PM
Thanks for the Weird Al clip, dada.
Gilbert is great. Especially when he comes on the Stern show. Got a file on my drive with his most recent appearance there that's his best and funniest ever. Great stuff. Not for everybody's taste, but fine for me.
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at October 15, 2004 05:12 PM
the evening news has devolved into a device closely related to the reality tv show
campy surrealist theatre
yet never more than a vehicle for promotional advertisement
Posted by: dadalux at October 15, 2004 05:13 PM
ON THIS DAY
On Oct. 15, 1964, it was announced that Soviet leader Nikita S. Khrushchev had been removed from office. He was succeeded as premier by Alexei N. Kosygin and as Communist Party secretary by Leonid I. Brezhnev.
Posted by: tonid at October 15, 2004 05:14 PM
"We can say a lot about telling the truth. We might remind those of us, whom are younger either of age or heart, that George Washington would never tell a lie."
Point of fact, it is a myth that Washington never told. He did many times. He also had an affair with a female British agent while he was President. What he didn't do was become a King. It was offered him and he turned it down. He was one of my favorite Presidents and a truly great man for a dope smoking, slave owning, bed jumping aristocrat from Virginia. All heroes have clay feet.
Posted by: Kingfish at October 15, 2004 05:15 PM
Al is coming up on Wolf Blitzer.
Is CNN trying to get me to watch, or something?
Anybody see Jimmy Kimmel last night? His dad is a Wolf-alike and was interviewing people who were sure they were talking to Blitzer. Including - OUR WORLD LEADERS AND REPRESENTATIVES!! (Including Jesse Jackson and Sheila Jackson Lee, among others. Wish I could remember who else.)
It was a funny segment.
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at October 15, 2004 05:16 PM
http://www.salonpas-usa.com/
Sunny J. and anyone else suffering from joint stiffness. Maybe these could help.
Posted by: aka MAT at October 15, 2004 05:01 PM
Thanks MAT, appreciate that!
"I'm writing to your from good old Summit County where I'm sguessing that we've seen the last of our sunshine until some time in May. Do you remember LAKE EFFECT, Sunshine Jim?"
Posted by: Black Ohio Sky at October 15, 2004 05:01 PM
i think thats around Akron is'nt it?
i grew up in Lorain County
west of Cleveland, oh yeah i remember
lake effect fer sure! was always my signal to
visit the hobby shop and grab some balsa
and ambroid cement prepatory to a
winter of model planes and
trains in my attic room!
have u bin thru Lorain lately?
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 05:18 PM
gilbert and howard is really something else
i havent laughed harder at anything in years
i have tapes of them from the past couple years, too
aflak!
Posted by: dadalux at October 15, 2004 05:19 PM
Plane with John Edwards on it, aborted the take off because a light went on in the cockpit re one of the engines.
Came to an abrupt stop, but noone was hurt. Thia happened in Cleveland.
Posted by: tonid at October 15, 2004 05:19 PM
Sunshine Jim...I have not visited Lorain in a few years. You are correct...I do live in Akron....on North Hill!
Posted by: Black Ohio Sky at October 15, 2004 05:21 PM
He was one of my favorite Presidents and a truly great man for a dope smoking, slave owning, bed jumping aristocrat from Virginia. All heroes have clay feet.
Posted by: Kingfish at October 15, 2004 05:15 PM
Where are the clay feet? I love this man!
Posted by: canadian at October 15, 2004 05:21 PM
>>All heroes have clay feet.
I'm always amused when people judge historic figures by today's cultural ethics.
A good example is Columbus. The guy just wanted to find a new trade route to India.
It was not his intention to subjegate a continent. He didn't know his crew would give the syphlis. etc.
Posted by: chubby_bubba at October 15, 2004 05:21 PM
Jim and Black Ohio,
Chicago gets Lake Effect too. Can be really bad in the dead of winter and Lake Effect snow storm!!!
Posted by: tonid at October 15, 2004 05:21 PM
http://www.salonpas-usa.com/
Sunny J. and anyone else suffering from joint stiffness. Maybe these could help.
Posted by: aka MAT at October 15, 2004 05:01 PM
Well, probably OK if you don't mind smelling like Menthol and Camphor all the time...
Thanks, though.
;-)
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at October 15, 2004 05:21 PM
~~~visit and pull up a stump by the ol potbelly stove and share a toke~~~
I would like nothing better than to visit BC, Jimmy.
But I'd wind up not wanting to leave the area!
LI is getting on my fucking nerves -- wingnut heaven, ya know. I be spoiled with good clients, an OVERabundance of work (I can pick-n-choose) & a nice home. My English Muff has tenure in her job & THAT's fat city.
*sigh*
My dream is an A-frame in the woods of NH, VT or ME....Nirvana. Oh, I'd have nice-sized attached greenhouse, too! *snark*
Posted by: Liberal-at-large at October 15, 2004 05:21 PM
hi chubby!
i'm so glad you aren't pissed
i figured you must be tired
from that dirty word *work*
hee hee...
******
hi goody! sunshine! tonid!
dada i hope yer workin on that cd copy (friendly reminder)...ram dass hash or not..
sunshine...sounds like that trip you took had a toll on you eh? hope you feel better...
i'm gonna go till show time....
*conbo! my lord and master now huh...ok...you won fair and square*
:)
Posted by: shell at October 15, 2004 05:21 PM
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=749&e=1&u=/nm/20041015/bs_nm/financial_insurers_dc
Posted by: tonid at October 15, 2004 05:11 PM
__________________
General announcement:
To make active links: hit "preview" (right next to "post") *prior to* posting, then scroll down and hit "post"
You may have just forgotten, tonid, and if so, please ignore my busybodiedness.
But folks who wants yer links active, hitting "preview" prior to posting then posting is yer answer.
Posted by: dr -- hittingpreviewbeforeposting@makeslinksactive.com at October 15, 2004 05:22 PM
>>Where are the clay feet? I love this man!
At the end of his clay legs...DUH!
;-)
Posted by: chubby_bubba at October 15, 2004 05:22 PM
I did DR,
Wanted to post it fast and forgot preview.
Happens sometimes when you are anxious,. ya know!
Posted by: tonid at October 15, 2004 05:25 PM
goddamer that was fun! ima have em song stuck in my head:
America! Fuck yeah!
We are good! Fuck yeah!
Freedom is good! Fuck yeah!
Terrorists, your game is through
So lick my butt and suck my balls
piss me off when janeane was get kill tho.
Posted by: muck4doo at October 15, 2004 05:25 PM
Well, probably OK if you don't mind smelling like Menthol and Camphor all the time...
Thanks, though.
;-)
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at October 15, 2004 05:21 PM
I like that smell! go figure
Posted by: at October 15, 2004 05:25 PM
Kudos to Monsieur Jon Stewart for saying something that had to be said, about how the political debate in this country is an absolute joke, and that both Begalia and Carlson (especially Carlson) are part of it. But it goes all across the board in this country....American films are 95 percent crap, music 90 percent crap, TV 97 percent crap, radio (except for AAR) 95 percent crap. The list goes on and on, it's fucking depressing.
Posted by: English Opium Eater at October 15, 2004 05:27 PM
eya Tonid.
remember those lakeshore winters well!
miss those days in the fall when the air smells so good!
hiya shell cya when ya get back!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 05:28 PM
I did DR,
Wanted to post it fast and forgot preview.
Happens sometimes when you are anxious,. ya know!
Posted by: tonid at October 15, 2004 05:25 PM
____________
I is done it my own self, most recently when I was faux chiding nobody about doing it and then I stupidly done it myself in my own example.
How's that for bein' a fuck-up?
Glad you don't take no offense -- was intended mostly as a general announcement for them's that don't know.
dr
Posted by: dr at October 15, 2004 05:28 PM
Noose tightens around Iraq's rebel heartland, car bomb explodes in Baghdad
1 hour, 48 minutes ago
US and Iraqi troops encircled the rebel city of Fallujah in the hunt for Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi as locals protested Iraq's most wanted man was not there and a deadly car bomb struck Baghdad.
Posted by: tonid at October 15, 2004 05:28 PM
i have tapes of them from the past couple years, too
aflak!
Posted by: dadalux at October 15, 2004 05:19 PM
Dada - You're as bad as me. That show I was talking about was from 8-11-04. At the time, I deemed it his best. And that's a hard call for ol' 'Dracula Gottfried'.
Hey, shell!
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at October 15, 2004 05:28 PM
America, meadows of mediocrity and malaise.
Posted by: English Opium Eater at October 15, 2004 05:29 PM
Did you hear the caller on Franken's today (was it Randi's?..they all run together as background now) that said she sent out a bunch of emails to Sinclair's advertisers and got a letter from the Dept. of Homeland Security. The letter warned her that her emails could be considered harrassment or commercial spam! WTF?
*checks out the dark blue Crown Vic with tinted windows parked across the street!.....
considers the Eddie Murphy banana-in-the-tailpipe maneuver* :)
Posted by: Liberal-at-large at October 15, 2004 05:31 PM
Can I get some malaise on my Big Mac?
Posted by: canadian at October 15, 2004 05:32 PM
I saw a great movie last night, people.
It's called 'The Woodsman', and stars Kevin Bacon and Kyra Sedgwick.
Don't know the release date, but it's an extremely worthwhile view. I don't want to give anything away about it, as I hate spoilers.
Just keep it in mind and make sure y'all see it. I anticipate high recognition and praise for it at the Indy Spirit awards next year.
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at October 15, 2004 05:32 PM
"Fallujah negotiator questions Zarqawi ultimatum"
"Zarqawi is like the weapons of mass destruction that America invaded Iraq for," Mr Maddab said, alluding to Saddam Hussein's arsenal of banned arms that proved not to exist."
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200410/s1220237.htm
Posted by: Nobody at October 15, 2004 05:32 PM
integrity
Posted by: -B at October 15, 2004 05:09 PM
--
i am with you, b
Posted by: dadalux at October 15, 2004 05:32 PM
i saw a movie you absolutely shouldnt see
don't see "mr. write" starring paul riser, with martin mull
ever
Posted by: dadalux at October 15, 2004 05:35 PM
I am soooo pissed at Greenspan. He is an adle-brained old man now and should step down.
How can he say this Oil increase is not as bad as the 70's!?!
Everyting will go up because of Oil prices, and when we can least afford it. People without jobs, lower paying jobs, increase in health care, trade deficits, fake terrorism with an increase in the cost of Homeland Security, budget cuts for the poor, schools and education.
We need a huge protest of the corps. Huge. Jim was right.
Posted by: tonid at October 15, 2004 05:35 PM
"Bush spins Iraq and its ambiguities into deadly lies
"The former regime had no formal written strategy or plans for the revival of WMD after the sanctions."
U.S. weapons inspection report on Iraq, October 2004
"Later, Rumsfeld would characterize U.S. troops as "fungible." This administration shows a glaring insensitivity as it furthers its foreign-policy objectives."
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascitystar/news/opinion/9879877.htm?1c
Posted by: Nobody at October 15, 2004 05:36 PM
have'nt seen Lorain since 1965
i grew up roamin the shore of lake erie
and the black river. was a beautiful
place then.
Lorain Hikoo
old boyhood settings
reminding me of simple things
and innocent fun.
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 05:36 PM
Reposting these 'cause they're both fun and funny.
Enjoy!
http://www.filmstripinternational.com/
http://victoryfund.njdc.org/bubbie/
Share them with the world.
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at October 15, 2004 05:37 PM
fungible...fungible...fungible...
That psychotic pos
Posted by: Nobody at October 15, 2004 05:39 PM
I love that she's playing this!
Posted by: Cocky-With-Christ at October 15, 2004 05:40 PM
Al on Wolf is the perfect follow-up to Stewart on Crossfire.
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at October 15, 2004 05:40 PM
AAAAAH!
that shower massage really hits the spot.
Just about time to turn around and do it (work) afain.
Posted by: chubby_bubba at October 15, 2004 05:40 PM
ima make shure avoider that dadalux. ima go get the team america soundtrack in em bit. ima have songs stuck in my head now.
Posted by: muck4doo at October 15, 2004 05:42 PM
Yes!!! Franken, took ole Wolf to task about the Kerry quote that turned into a Bush mis-quote about the time when terror will become a nuisanace.
Posted by: tonid at October 15, 2004 05:42 PM
eya LaL in my professional opinion
a potato works best tamped about 3 inches up
the pipe with a sawed off broom stick.
Can I get some malaise on my Big Mac?
Posted by: canadian at October 15, 2004 05:32 PM / / / /
hee hee! woke the dogs up laffin!
how you doin canucker! good to read ya!
whats new round u?
good one canucker!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 05:42 PM
Human lives are not a commodity to spent...but according to Rumsfeld U.S. troops are "fungible"
No...who's "fungible" is you and old yeller...you vile excuse that walks in the guise of humanity...
Posted by: Nobody at October 15, 2004 05:44 PM
Bob Barr is, was, and always will be a big piece of steaming crap.
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at October 15, 2004 05:46 PM
fungible...you're whole stinking cadre of wingnut sociopaths is fungible...
You no longer serve the interests of the species...You need to find a new planet...start walking you bastards...
Posted by: Nobody at October 15, 2004 05:47 PM
Don't forget how much of a prick Barr was during the Clinton takedown.
Ooh, that turd gets under my skin.
(And that makes for some pretty smelly skin. Think I'll take that Camphor/Menthol rub after all!)
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at October 15, 2004 05:48 PM
"Anyone,
PLease post a link to the show if one pops up. I missed almost all of the only Crossfire ever worth watching.
Posted by: Cocky-With-Christ at October 15, 2004 05:08 PM
Poignant: YES! anybody with a brain would NOT watch that show, finally they get roasted on their own spit!
Posted by: bibimimi at October 15, 2004 05:49 PM
Kerry cranks up populism, roasts Bush on economy
1 hour, 50 minutes ago
Democrat John Kerry, sharpening his populist tone as he chased votes in the US heartland, accused President George W. Bush of bleeding middle-class Americans while lining the pockets of the rich.
Posted by: tonid at October 15, 2004 05:49 PM
Just e-mailed Tucker Carlson.
"When a fake newsman is more trustworthy than a real newsman it is time to call it a day."
Posted by: Kingfish at October 15, 2004 05:49 PM
eya N
ya the sheer inhumanity of these perps is amazing,
agravating and infuriating! the 'chickenhawks'
always willing to send someone else to die
for their goals and unwilling to fight
themselves. time for payback creepin up.
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 05:51 PM
How Com:
The gun-nuts say "we don't need gun-control, we just need to enforce the laws we have," meanwhile many of the same people embrace the Patriot Act w/o questioning if the laws on the books weren't being enforced before 9-11.
The issues are *so* similar, nearly identical!
Posted by: chubby_bubba at October 15, 2004 05:51 PM
Carlson isn't a newsman, he's a stinking pundit. He doesn't have to make sense, do research, be right, be polite, or stay clean and sober. It's a Peter Principle Profession, you can suck royally and still get PAID!
Posted by: bibimimi at October 15, 2004 05:51 PM
HAH...I am holding my absentee ballot in my hands right at this moment....
Muahhahahahah....fungible?
Fuck off W
Posted by: Nobody at October 15, 2004 05:52 PM
Toni;
What's that smell? We both used the word 'roast' at the same time. You owe me a beer!
Posted by: bibimimi at October 15, 2004 05:53 PM
my favorite was when gilbert was there and robin read this story:
5/31/99
GARDEN GROVE, California (CNN) -- Billy Barty, the 3-foot-10 actor whose career has spanned seven decades, was injured Friday in a scooter accident during a performance at the Garden Grove Strawberry Festival.
Barty, 74, apparently crashed the scooter on an outdoor stage, sending him headfirst onto a concrete set of stairs. Festival director Ken Slimmer said Barty fractured his eye socket, but officials at the Western Regional Medical Center in Santa Ana, where the actor was treated, refused to comment on his injuries or condition.
Festival spokesman Jerry Margolin said he spoke with Barty from his hospital bed Saturday and the actor told him he was feeling better and hoped to be released soon.
Barty, who first appeared in his first Hollywood feature in 1927 at age 3, has starred in movies like "Willow," "Under the Rainbow" and "Foul Play."
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i start tearing up just typing about it...i cant help it
http://www.biwa.ne.jp/~presley/jpeg/BillyBarty.jpg
Posted by: dadalux at October 15, 2004 05:54 PM
Review Finds More Bush Military Records
7 minutes ago White House - AP
By MATT KELLEY, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - Weeks after Texas National Guard officials signed an oath swearing they had turned over all of President Bush (news - web sites)'s military records, independent examiners found more than two dozen pages of previously unreleased documents about Bush.
The two retired Army lawyers went through Texas files under an agreement between the Texas Guard and The Associated Press, which sued to gain access to the files. The 31 pages of documents turned over to AP Thursday night include orders for high-altitude training in 1972, less than three months before Bush abruptly quit flying as a fighter pilot.
The discovery is the latest in a series of embarrassments for Pentagon (news - web sites) and Texas National Guard officials who have repeatedly said they found and released all of Bush's Vietnam-era military files, only to belatedly discover more records. Those discoveries — nearly 100 pages, including Bush's pay records and flight logs — have been the result of freedom of information lawsuits filed in federal and Texas courts by AP.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=544&ncid=716&e=5&u=/ap/20041015/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_guard_records
Posted by: tonid at October 15, 2004 05:54 PM
the candian sees clearly
Posted by: PEACE IN at October 15, 2004 05:54 PM
Hey Sunshine...goin' good! glad to hear you're well.
Al Franken did a great job today. It was such a great day for American News! two guests who ACTUALLY told the truth without 'spin'.
Like drinking clean cold water...
Posted by: canadian at October 15, 2004 05:54 PM
Had my ballot for a few weeks, now. Always vote absentee.
I just wonder if my vote has as much value as one that's entered the day of the election on site.
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at October 15, 2004 05:54 PM
u realize how extensive the changes will be
if we get what we want? i'm ready and willing.
it'll be better by far in the long run though.
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 05:55 PM
Does anyone know how to contact Jon Stewert on the Daily Show? I have been to their web site and cannot find a e-mail contact. I would like to send him my congrats.
Posted by: Kingfish at October 15, 2004 05:55 PM
Toni;
What's that smell? We both used the word 'roast' at the same time. You owe me a beer!
Posted by: bibimimi at October 15, 2004 05:53 PM
Be glad to buy you one!!!
How's it going?
Posted by: tonid at October 15, 2004 05:56 PM
>>Carlson isn't a newsman, (...) you can suck royally and still get PAID
I believe you meant "You can suck the Royalty and still get PAID?"
;-)
Posted by: chubby_bubba at October 15, 2004 05:56 PM
~~~"live hard, die young,...~~~
Variation on a theme (my fav):
It's better to burn quickly and bright/
Than slowly and dull without a fight/
--Type O Negative (World Coming Down)
Posted by: Liberal-at-large at October 15, 2004 05:57 PM
Damn, just lost the sound!!!
Posted by: tonid at October 15, 2004 05:57 PM
Another classic Gilbert moment is when he and Howard called Seifeld's answering machine and ran out the tape years ago.
I laugh so hard at those guys I get headaches.
Worth every bit of pain, though.
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at October 15, 2004 05:58 PM
Jon Stewart is my hero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Douglas Munro at October 15, 2004 05:58 PM
that jon stewart moment on crossfire was historic
Posted by: PEACE IN at October 15, 2004 05:59 PM
W send his winged monkeys to 'The Daily Show', a real man showed up for himself, gets the nod, and the respect of 51% of a grateful nation.
Posted by: stewart for kerry at October 15, 2004 05:59 PM
dada i hope yer workin on that cd copy (friendly reminder)...ram dass hash or not..
---
well, i sure hope your not hoping too hard, shell!
"friendly reminder" is like holding up a sign telling me to head for zee hiiils
Posted by: dadalux at October 15, 2004 06:00 PM
more value goody...because as soon as I'm finished I'm scanning it, printing it and sealing it in a witnessed envelope..."just in case"
Posted by: Nobody at October 15, 2004 06:00 PM
Bubba--
I stand corrected and in awe of you.
Posted by: bibimimi at October 15, 2004 06:00 PM
BRB, have to fix the confuser.
Posted by: tonid at October 15, 2004 06:00 PM
Does anyone know how to contact Jon Stewert on the Daily Show? I have been to their web site and cannot find a e-mail contact. I would like to send him my congrats.
Posted by: Kingfish at October 15, 2004 05:55 PM
I did the same thing! I how to contact him.
Posted by: Cocky-With-Christ at October 15, 2004 06:01 PM
I'm so glad Randi played that Crossfire cut.
Sweeeeeeet!
Kudos Jon Stewart!
Posted by: Gay Boi Charlie at October 15, 2004 06:01 PM
intrasting:
HARRISBURG, Pa. Oct. 15, 2004 — Prosecutors dropped the charges Friday against six men arrested for protesting the Abu Ghraib prison-abuse scandal by stripping down to their thong underwear and forming a human pyramid during a visit by President Bush.
Lancaster County District Attorney Donald R. Totaro said prosecutors would not have been able to prove the defendants' actions served "no legitimate purpose" a requirement under the state's disorderly conduct law.
"The mere presence of unwilling viewers does not determine whether unwelcome views are prohibited from public forums," he said.
He said that pressing charges "would only serve to advance the agenda of six protesters through a very public forum."
FDA Orders Strong Antidepressant Warnings
What Happened in Kerry's Vietnam Battles?
Injured Iraq Vets Come Home to Poverty
American Civil Liberties Union attorney Paula Knudsen, who represented one of the defendants, said: "We're pleased that the charges have been withdrawn and that the district attorney recognized the importance of the First Amendment values at stake."
The men, ages 18 to 32, were arrested along the motorcade route during a July 9 visit by Bush to an elementary school in Amish country, about an hour west of Philadelphia. They were recreating an image from photos taken inside the prison near Baghdad in which Iraqi prisoners were abused by U.S. captors.
Knudsen said East Lampeter Township Police violated the defendants' constitutional right to free speech.
If convicted, the men could have received up to 90 days in jail and a $300 fine.
Posted by: muck4doo at October 15, 2004 06:02 PM
Somebody has to have recorded Crossfire today. We need to get a copy of that onto a website or blog or peer to peer service or something so that as many people as possible can see it.
Posted by: Douglas Munro at October 15, 2004 06:02 PM
Shoulda said
"Seinfeld".
I hate when I mis-type.
Nobody -
yeah, you're right about that. But aren't our ballots sent as absentee only counted 'if needed'? Maybe I bought into a misconception.
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at October 15, 2004 06:02 PM
Back in an hour...voting :D
and fielding question from my small audience of new voters here...doubled our voting constituency here in the house this election...
and reveling in a moment where they actually think I know something ;)
later ;D
Posted by: Nobody at October 15, 2004 06:03 PM
Okay, kids, in about an hour I'm going to give this one more try, but if the online stream of MR isn't any better than last night, my patronage will be restricted to the AirAmerica Place audio archives.
Posted by: Rusty at October 15, 2004 06:04 PM
Dear Cocky, o.k. how?
Posted by: Kingfish at October 15, 2004 06:04 PM
been monitoring the global
enviromental situation, we need to
really change things around or at least prep for
what comin down all around. all possible
with a bit of the greed controlled.
most peeps just figgerin it out.
still, better than it was by far!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 06:04 PM
hehe you guys are mite wanna check this video out call fuzzy math:
http://www.flashplayer.com/music/fuzzymath.html
Posted by: muck4doo at October 15, 2004 06:04 PM
Toni;
Here's the weather. It gon' rain!!
Riding the autoimmune rollercoaster like yerself. Keep warm and dry. Good luck w/ yer confuser.
I'm going home to my kittens.
Posted by: bibimimi at October 15, 2004 06:05 PM
Go to this poll and vote. Bush is winning right now.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6092749/
Posted by: Kingfish at October 15, 2004 06:06 PM
absentee is not the same as provisional goody...look it up...might be different in your state...
they're the same as overseas ballots...military ballots...etc...now I gotta get to striking my blow for truth justice and the american way with my all powerful #2 pencil
Posted by: Nobody at October 15, 2004 06:07 PM
Looks like ol' Kerry needs a shave. He's on an interview with Paula Zahn later, and in the preview clips he's a little rough around the edges.
Workin' his ass off ta bring down Da Manboy!!
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at October 15, 2004 06:07 PM
"friendly reminder" is like holding up a sign telling me to head for zee hiiils
Posted by: dadalux at October 15, 2004 06:00 PM
you must be on the silly sauce to think i'd ever tell you to head for zee hills...
(unless they are the sierra foothills of course..)
:)
Posted by: shell at October 15, 2004 06:09 PM
Thanks, N.
Makes me feel better already. I'll check though, but here in CA it's probably same as wherever you are, too. I don't think it's a state by state thing for the Presidential election.
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at October 15, 2004 06:10 PM
Must go now. My love to all my blog-family.
Posted by: chubby_bubba at October 15, 2004 06:10 PM
eya N read the small print
the ballot might need a Ball point pen!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 06:11 PM
friday on planet Earth....
i POLARIZE in order to ENLIGHTEN,
STABILIZING LIFE.
i seal the MATRIX of UNIVERSAL FIRE
with the LUNAR tone of CHALLENGE.
i am guided by the power of FREE-WILL.....
2 ahau ~~ yellow lunar sun ~~ kin 80/260
day 2/13 of storm wavespell 7/20
day 4/4 of lunar matrix harmonic 20/65
day 26/28 of electric moon 3/13
year 8/16 of Tel-ek-ton-on Cycle give thanks...heartlove...in lak'ech...
Ah Yum, Hunab Ku, Evam Maya E Ma Ho!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Posted by: 13ben at October 15, 2004 06:11 PM
take er easy CB!
an be careful bud!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 06:12 PM
THE MSNBC POLL NEEDS HELP!
CURRENT POLL IS:
BUSH 59%
KERRY 41%
Go to http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6092749/ and VOTE!!!
Posted by: GoodPotatoes at October 15, 2004 06:12 PM
xoxox
bye chubby!!
drat i'm missin ya whilst you werk...
see you later i hope...
and i hope "the man" doesn't beat all the life outta you today...
have a *nice* day...(oh that never works on someone who has to go to werk!)
:)
Posted by: shell at October 15, 2004 06:14 PM
Q: Is human nature basically violent?
A: Yes it is. Because thought is violent. Anything that is born out of thought is destructive. You may cover it up with all wonderful and romantic phrases: "Love thy neighbor as thyself." Don't forget that in the name of "Love thy neighbor as thyself" millions and millions of people have died, more than in all the recent wars put together. But we now have come to a point where we can realize that violence is not the answer, that it is not the way to solve human problems. So, terror seems to be the only way. I am not talking of terrorists blowing up churches, temples, and all that kind of thing, but the terror that if you try to destroy your neighbor you will possibly destroy yourself. That realization has to come down to the level of the common man.As I said before, what kind of a human being do you want on this globe? The human being modelled after the perfect being has totally failed. The model has not touched anything there. Your value system is the one that is responsible for the human malady, the human tragedy, forcing everybody to fit into that model. So, what do we do? You cannot do anything by destroying the value system, because you replace one value system with another. Even those who rebelled against religion, like those in the Communist countries, have themselves created another kind of value system. So, revolution does not mean the end of anything. It is only a revaluation of our value system. So, that needs another revolution, and so on and so on. There is no way. -- A Man Called U.G.
Posted by: RomanDolly at October 15, 2004 06:16 PM
Some thoughts on Kerry's deflection of criticism regarding 1) the Cheney/lesbian flap, and 2) the 'liberal' rap:
How about this? Kerry, in effect, says the following: that his identification of Mary Cheney as a lesbian can only be considered 'cheap and tawdry' if one's views of lesbianism are such...
KERRY: "If I identified Mary Cheney as being left-handed would anybody accuse me of being cheap and tawdry? If I identified Mary Cheney as being a brunette would anybody accuse me of being cheap and tawdry? No. Why not? Because these qualities are assigned to us by Nature. And so it is, as is my belief, that one's sexual orientation is assigned to us by Nature. There ought not to be any shame or stigma attached to being born left-handed, or brunette, or red-headed, or freckled, or dark-skinned, or fair-complexioned, or seven-foot-two, or four-foot-three, or brown-eyed or blue. And by that same standard neither should there be any shame, any stigma attached to being gay. You are as God created you and you're magnificent! And so long as you lead a good, honest, decent life, treat people with respect, do good works, perform acts of kindness towards your fellow man, you should be proud of who you are, what you stand for and what you've achieved, and the world, likewise, should be proud of who you are, and accept and embrace you for who you are. I mentioned Mary Cheney the other night to make a point: that lesbianism and sexual orientation cuts across party lines. That's a fact. It's a hard one, I know, for some people on the Right side of the political aisle to accept, but you know in Christopher Columbus's day nobody but a few wanted to accept that the world was round...and Copernicus the astronomer, back in his day, was dismissed as a kook for suggesting the Earth revolved around the Sun. Old prejudices die hard, but they do die...eventually. There was nothing cheap nor tawdry about my bringing up Mary Cheney in the debate the other night, because there's nothing cheap or tawdry about her sexual orientation, or for that matter about Nature, period. I don't have a problem accepting Mary Cheney for who she is and for what God, in his infinite wisdom, made her. And if I
Posted by: dirtydog at October 15, 2004 06:17 PM
Back inna few
gonna lay down wit de doggers and
take a pain pill!
love u all!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at October 15, 2004 06:17 PM
bye bubba! :)
Posted by: muck4doo at October 15, 2004 06:17 PM
http://www.comedycentral.com/help/questionsCC.jhtml. Here is the e-mail for Comedy Central. Let Jon know you stand with him. I also told them they need more Jon Stewart and less Try and Matt, sellout little bitches, and Colin Quin (old and not funny).
Posted by: Kingfish at October 15, 2004 06:18 PM
"The name of my condition is Cartilage Hair Syndrome Hypoplasia, but you can just call me Billy."
--Billy Barty
Although acting in films since the 1930's he does not appear in The Wizard of Oz. As a midget in Hollywood for the past 70 years he's played characters with names like: Noodles MacIntosh, Bellmouse, Iddy, Rumpelstiltskin, Gwildor, Dweedle, Screwball, Inch (despite his height being 3'9"), Figment, Ludwig, Stilts, The Shark, Sigmund Ooze, Sparky the Firefly, Googy Gopher, Clang, Baba, Billy the midget, The Imp, Little Tom The Midget, Billy Bitesize, Kimba, Mustard-Seed, Little Eddie, White Pawn/The Baby, Mouse/Little Boy, "Pettin' in the Park" Baby, and Tiny baby (in jar).
http://www.movieactors.com/characters/Freezes-Characters/foulplay207.jpeg
http://tulsatvmemories.com/uhf/noodles.jpg
Posted by: dadalux at October 15, 2004 06:18 PM
[...]including Bush's pay records and flight logs — have been the result of freedom of information lawsuits filed in federal and Texas courts by AP.
Posted by: tonid at October 15, 2004 05:54 PM
Oh hell yeah.....PAY RECORDS!
But the bastards released 'em on a Friday, AGAIN!
OCTOBER SURPRISE!
......................hmmmmmm?
Posted by: Liberal-at-large at October 15, 2004 06:19 PM
Anger as such is something you don't know. You are all the time controlling, suppressing, living with or choicelessly aware--you are all the time doing something with what is not there any more. It is already gone. It is the thinking that results in hitting somebody--your child, for example--and not the anger. You are attributing it to something that is not there any longer. That has set in motion this nonsensical movement of thought. So it is not the anger but the frustration that is your problem. You are not dealing with desire. Desire is life. If you destroy desire you are destroying life. It is there--not must be there--whether you like it or not. Have you freed yourself from desire? Don't say `good desires', `bad desires', `spiritual desires' and `material desires'. They are all the same. What you are going to do with the desires is all that you are interested in." -- U.G.
Posted by: RomanDolly at October 15, 2004 06:19 PM
"Attachment becomes a problem because of our wanting to be detached. What is wrong with attachment? Permanence: we cannot hold onto attachments forever. Knowing that, one gets onto the merry-go-round of detachment. All this looks very attractive to you because you feel that you now have the mantra which will help you cope with the aches and pains attachment brings you. Then you get attached to the concept of detachment and spend a lifetime trying to make the goal of being detached into a reality," -- U.G.
Posted by: RomanDolly at October 15, 2004 06:21 PM
Nightline Demolishes Anti-Kerry Swift Boat Story
ABC News Nightline went to Vietnam and interviewed villagers who witnessed the firefight in February 1969 that led to John Kerry being awarded a Silver Star. The incident is a center piece of the allegations made by the so-called 'Swift Boat Veterans for Truth', whose leader John O'Neill has claimed that there was no firefight and that Kerry shot dead a fleeing teenager. Nightline's detailed interviews with the villagers, including former Viet Cong fighters who took part in the incident, verified Kerry's account of events. When confronted by Nightline's Ted Koppel, a clearly rattled O'Neill refused to address the content of the report.
Read more here:
http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/Vote2004/story?id=166434&page=1
Posted by: Gay Boi Charlie at October 15, 2004 06:22 PM
OOPS! I got cut off. Okay, I know it runs a little long, but here's the rest of it...
KERRY: ...And if I don't question God's wisdom and God's acceptance and unfailing love with regards to one of His children, neither then should Lynne Cheney with regards to one of hers."
Boom!
As to the 'liberal' label the Republicans and Bush keep hitting Kerry with, could somebody (you, perhaps...?) grab John Kerry either figuratively or literally by the lapels, shake him violently, and scream at him, "YOU'RE A LIBERAL, AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT!!!!
I am so fucking sick and tired of this guy turning tail and running away from being a quote unquote Liberal! He has allowed the other side to define the term and saddle him with it as though the terms 'liberal' and 'serial rapist' were one and the same. If Kerry doesn't--between now and November 2nd--get up on a stage somewhere and deliver a barn-burning speech in defense of liberalism and identify point-for-point, example after example, all the good it's done for this country and its citizens, the lava dome forming on Mt. Saint Helens right now isn't the only thing that's going to explode...I WILL! But way worse than my sanity shooting geysers of white hot magma into the atmosphere, Kerry will lose this election. Ask any nutbag who's going to vote for Bush this election why they don't want or trust Kerry to be their President and the same two answers keep coming back: he's a Liberal, he's a flip-flopper. They just repeat what the smear machine has drilled into their brains and told them was baaaaaad...'Liberal' / 'flip-flopper.' Those two idiotic criticisms should have been dispelled and annihilated by the Kerry campaign long ago...and would have been if the campaign had anyone with anywhere near the political talent and savvy as Karl Rove.
By its own admission the Bush campaign says it's going to hammer away at the liberal issue for the remaining days until the election. Kerry has got to take that head-on. Two suggestions: 1) your book, Al, Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Idiot... has some terrific examples on pages 10 and 11 of how Government has enriched our lives, as offered up by prom
Posted by: dirtydog at October 15, 2004 06:23 PM
bye jimmy hope you get better. :)
Posted by: muck4doo at October 15, 2004 06:24 PM
Cya's N & CB!
Posted by: Liberal-at-large at October 15, 2004 06:25 PM
It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion.
Paul Joseph Goebbels
It is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both.
Niccolo Machiavelli
Joseph Goebbels said: "The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over"
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.
Paul Joseph Goebbels
Men ought either to be indulged or utterly destroyed, for if you merely offend them they take vengeance, but if you injure them greatly they are unable to retaliate, so that the injury done to a man ought to be such that vengeance cannot be feared.
Niccolo Machiavelli
No enterprise is more likely to succeed than one concealed from the enemy until it is ripe for execution.
Niccolo Machiavelli
Of mankind we may say in general they are fickle, hypocritical, and greedy of gain.
Niccolo Machiavelli
Posted by: at October 15, 2004 06:27 PM
Lockhart Statement on Rove Testifying in CIA Leak Case
In response to reports that Karl Rove testified before the grand jury investigating the CIA leak case, Kerry-Edwards campaign Senior Adviser Joe Lockhart issued the following statement:
“With two weeks to go before the election, the American people are still in the dark about how it is that their White House leaked the name of an undercover CIA operative to the press, jeopardizing the life of this agent and possibly violating federal law.
“Instead of hiding behind the lawyers he so often likes to criticize, George Bush should direct Karl Rove and anyone else involved to go to the White House briefing room and come clean about their role in this insidious act. If the president sincerely wanted to get to the bottom of this potential crime, he’d stop the White House foot dragging and fully cooperate with this investigation.�
Posted on October 15, 2004 at 02:32 PM
http://blog.johnkerry.com/rapidresponse/
Posted by: 13ben at October 15, 2004 06:27 PM
20 Lies to Tempe
Top Bush Lies and Distortions From the Third Debate
http://blog.johnkerry.com/rapidresponse/archives/003483.html#more
Posted by: 13ben at October 15, 2004 06:29 PM
Kerry will reinstate the military draft! Vote for the only true anti-war candidate! Vote Nadar!
Posted by: at October 15, 2004 06:30 PM
http://www.creativetime.org/programs/archive/2004/freedom/
Posted by: Freedom Of Expression National Monument at October 15, 2004 06:30 PM
20 Lies to Tempe
Top Bush Lies and Distortions From the Third Debate
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
#3. BUSH CLAIMS: “We have a problem with litigation in the United States of America. Vaccine manufacturers are worried about getting sued, and therefore they have backed off from providing this kind of vaccine.�
REALITY:
Mergers, Not Lawsuits, To Blame for Lack of Vaccine Producing Companies. “Also, Bush blamed lawsuits for the shortage, but that's not the cause of frequent vaccine shortages, according to the Institute of Medicine, a division of the National Academy of Sciences. The problem is that vaccines aren't profitable and drug companies keep merging. In 1967, nearly 30 drug companies made vaccines. That was down to five last year, and of those only two make flu vaccines.� [Pioneer Press, 10/14/04]
http://blog.johnkerry.com/rapidresponse/archives/003483.html#more
Posted by: 13ben at October 15, 2004 06:31 PM
Ann Coulter quotes of the day:
Fall Fashion Preview: Cowboy Boots In, Flip-Flops Out
October 13, 2004
How about this for "gut-check time": When you close your eyes, can you see the Democrats defending America? Because I can't see it.
These are the people who are obsessed with getting the French to like us. They call terrorism a "nuisance," like prostitution and other petty crimes. ("Hundreds of Children Killed in Chechnya by Nuisance," "British Civilian Beheaded by Annoyance," "9-11: What a Hassle!") They babble about nonexistent civil liberties violations under the Patriot Act.
If Gore had been elected president, right now he would just be finding that last lesbian quadriplegic for the Special Forces team.
________________________________________________
Imagine President John Kerry at the Berlin Wall. "Mr. Gorbachev ... I challenge you to get to an emotional place where you can imagine a different kind of non-wall reality, that fully respects the 'wallness' of your current reality, yet takes us on a spiritual journey in which ..."
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Better yet, let's use a Kerry speech to torture them into revealing where and when their next attack will be! Ten minutes of that snoozefest convention speech would have the most hardened Islamic fanatic begging for mercy and spilling his guts. Now, that's my idea of a "gut check."
As if it means something, Kerry keeps vowing: "I will never stop at anything to hunt down and kill the terrorists." But he will stop at the Iraqi border. Or if the French and Germans aren't on board. Or we don't have United Nations approval. Or it would require investigating a Muslim under the Patriot Act.
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http://www.anncoulter.com/
Posted by: celticman at October 15, 2004 06:31 PM
#4. BUSH CLAIMS: “Most of the tax cuts went to low and middle income Americans, and now the tax code is more fair, 20 percent of the upper income people pay about 80 percent of the taxes in America today because of how we structured the tax cuts.”
REALITY:
In 2004, Top One Percent Will Receive Average Tax Cut Of $35,000; Middle Class Will Receive Average Tax Cut Of $647. The benefits of Bush’s tax cuts primarily benefit the rich. The top one percent of households will receive tax cuts averaging almost $35,000--or 54 times more than middle-class families. Households with incomes above $1 million will receive tax cuts averaging about $123,600. [Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, 4/14/04]
Posted by: 13ben at October 15, 2004 06:32 PM
Sleep well, Solar One!
Hiya Shell...how's your tech project, darlin?
Posted by: Liberal-at-large at October 15, 2004 06:33 PM
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Posted by: dr at October 15, 2004 06:34 PM
DRATS!! Got cut off again!! Okay, I can take a hint. Sorry for being so long-winded. You all get the gist, anyway. Being Liberal is nothing to be ashamed of, and everything to be proud of. I simply want to see Kerry turn that idiotic criticism of him around, and turn it to his advantage. That's all. It's long overdue.
Goodnight Majority Report bloggers...wherever you are.
Posted by: dirtydog at October 15, 2004 06:34 PM
goddamer im miss that crossfire. just read manuscrip and stewart was wipehim ass with em.
Posted by: muck4doo at October 15, 2004 06:35 PM
hi 13ben!
:)
hi LL - well...i'm hoping to be able to work on it today sometime...i'm gathering cat pics for "the bibi" i call it...and songs for the other thing i wrote to you about...
what's up with you two today?
Posted by: shell at October 15, 2004 06:35 PM
Reuters Poll: Bush Opens Four-Point Lead on Kerry
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush (news - web sites) opened a four-point lead on Democratic Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites) the day after the final debate between the White House rivals, according to a Reuters/Zogby poll released on Friday.
Bush led Kerry 48-44 percent in the latest three-day tracking poll, which included one night of polling done after Wednesday's debate in Tempe, Arizona. Bush led Kerry, a senator from Massachusetts, by only one point, 46-45 percent, the previous day.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/nm/20041015/pl_nm/campaign_poll_friday_dc
this is after the debates that Kerry "won"
(snicker, snicker)
Posted by: celticman at October 15, 2004 06:36 PM
I can't believe I missed Jon Stewart...DAMN!!!
Posted by: Margarita at October 15, 2004 06:36 PM
forgot to make links active *and* give attribution (don't wear any but readin' specs, myself)
dr
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Posted by: dr at October 15, 2004 06:38 PM
just in case anyone is need transcrip link again for jon stewart:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0410/15/cf.01.html
Posted by: muck4doo at October 15, 2004 06:39 PM
well ima outta here. have fun. kingfish dont get to piss off with trey and matt. they in manage to piss off evryone one time or nother. just them style. saw the movie thought itn hilarious. gotta laff myself now and then to. well have fun all and less than 3 weeks to freedom. :)
Posted by: muck4doo at October 15, 2004 06:42 PM
http://edition.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/
vote
Posted by: canadian at October 15, 2004 06:43 PM
Kerry will reinstate the military draft! Vote for the only true anti-war candidate! Vote Nadar!
Posted by: at October 15, 2004 06:30 PM
Nadar [sic]....heh, heh, heh!
Nader [sic, NOT!] is a pathetic, angry, vengeful old derelict!
'Our country CANNOT afford you this time.'
Posted by: Liberal-at-large at October 15, 2004 06:44 PM
Dick Cheney’s Legislative Accomplishments … Both of Them …
“Cheney’s voting record was slightly more conservative than mine.�-- Newt Gingrich, Washington Times, 7/25/2000
http://blog.johnkerry.com/rapidresponse/archives/003473.html#more
Posted by: 13ben at October 15, 2004 06:46 PM
Beside the fact that Bushco abuses true Christians with their blatant hypochristian panderings;
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/100404L.shtml
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/04/faith/
and that voter fraud is rampant throughout the US;
http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=2421595&nav=168XRvNe
http://www.wjhg.com/home/headlines/1098701.html
http://www.nifl.gov/nifl-womenlit/2004/0201.html
has anyone considered that these Neocons with help from Rupert Murdoch are doing the Devil's work?
Sure FOX owns a huge (if not the largest) porn concern in the world, O"Liely is a perv but look at the immoral programming in one typical FOX day;
Maury Povitch... humiliating unsophisticated urban blacks and rural whites, (desperate in this economy for the meager compensation FOX pays) with his paternity tests.
followed by
Jerry Springer...ditto above only this slime encourages rage and violence as well as mob think punctuated by his duisgusting and phoney moralizing at each show's end.
then in order
Judge Hatchett
Judge hatchett
Judge Judy
Judge Judy
Divorce Court
People's Court
Judge Mathis
Is it any wonder these cousin humpers think Hussein attacked us on 9/11?
Or that they would think Bush a leader?
There's a wicked part of me that almost wishes Bush would try to steal another election. It would be an opportunity during the subsequent revolution to cleanse the gene pool.
Posted by: Dutch Masters at October 15, 2004 06:47 PM
CHEERLEADER-IN-CHIEF-BUSHWHACKER@0-for-3.com
NOW, THE DIRTY TRICKS BEGIN in EARNEST
Steve Clemons posts on what looks to be, as Josh Marshall believes, a classic Karl Rove-style dirty trick.
The similarities to an incident described in Josh Green's recent Rove profile are pretty startling. For lengthy piece on Rove's M.O., see:
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200411/green
The gist of the flap in Tennessee is that someone went into Tennessee congressional candidate Craig Fitzhugh's office and "found" a bunch of fliers with George W. Bush's head pasted onto the body of a competitor in the Special Olympics, with the tagline "Voting for Bush is Like Running in the Special Olympics -- Even if You Win, You're Still Retarded."
Why does this seem like a dirty trick? A couple of reasons.
For one thing, the timing stinks. Here's how the first AP story describes the chronology:
_____________
Democratic office denies distributing 'retarded' flier
http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/politics/article/0,1406,KNS_356_3252873,00.html
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Can you say "set-up"?
Posted by: dr at October 15, 2004 06:50 PM
Kingfish,
~~~ Go to this poll and vote. Bush is winning right now. ~~~
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6092749/
I've some pretty good proof that particular poll is being botted (automated voting). I keep the numbers in Excel and keep emailing MSNBC about it but get no response, of course.
Look at this for awhile and you'll see something very odd. Plot it in your mind.
Minutes-Kerry---Bush
0-------0.61----0.38
123-----0.61----0.38
512-----0.61----0.38
1104----0.61----0.38
1233----0.59----0.40
1293----0.56----0.43
1396----0.51----0.48
1489----0.48----0.51
1512----0.47----0.52
1534----0.46----0.53
1612----0.45----0.54
1642----0.44----0.55
1695----0.44----0.55
1704----0.44----0.56
1878----0.43----0.56
1987----0.42----0.57
2043----0.41----0.58
2519----0.41----0.59
2642----0.41----0.59
Last entry was more than 24 hours ago... no change since then.
Posted by: Fishgrease at October 15, 2004 06:50 PM
Outsource W...
"Study sees 406,000 U.S. jobs shifted overseas in 2004"
"WASHINGTON (CBS.MW) -- Outsourcing of U.S. jobs to China, Mexico and other low-wage economies continues at an accelerating pace, according to a new study released by the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission. The study found that 406,000 jobs are likely to be shifted overseas in 2004. The data was collected by tracking stories in the media."
Posted by: Nobody at October 15, 2004 06:51 PM
CHEERLEADER-IN-CHIEF-BUSHWHACKER@0-for-3.com
NOW, THE DIRTY TRICKS BEGIN in EARNEST
Steve Clemons posts on what looks to be, as Josh Marshall believes, a classic Karl Rove-style dirty trick.
The similarities to an incident described in Josh Green's recent Rove profile are pretty startling. For lengthy piece on Rove's M.O., see:
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200411/green
The gist of the flap in Tennessee is that someone went into Tennessee congressional candidate Craig Fitzhugh's office and "found" a bunch of fliers with George W. Bush's head pasted onto the body of a competitor in the Special Olympics, with the tagline "Voting for Bush is Like Running in the Special Olympics -- Even if You Win, You're Still Retarded."
Why does this seem like a dirty trick? A couple of reasons.
For one thing, the timing stinks. Here's how the first AP story describes the chronology:
_____________
Democratic office denies distributing 'retarded' flier
http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/politics/article/0,1406,KNS_356_3252873,00.html
______________
Can you say "set-up"?
Posted by: dr at October 15, 2004 06:51 PM
arthur godfrey, AM Washington tv show, april '75
http://www.thejoyboys.com/sound/d125t17.mp3
http://www.digitaldeliftp.com/Images/pings/arthurgodfrey-72dpi.png
fun pictures
http://www.coutant.org/celeb.html
Posted by: dadalux at October 15, 2004 06:52 PM
some millionaires don't made paying the same rate of tax as the rest of us do.........
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Heinz Kerry Reports Nearly $2.3M in 2003
33 minutes ago
By LOLITA C. BALDOR, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - Teresa Heinz Kerry made nearly $2.3 million in 2003 and had a federal and state tax bill of close to $800,000, according to tax forms filed Friday.
Heinz Kerry, who has an estimated worth of about $750 million, will receive a refund of just under $248,000 for overpaying her federal taxes and is applying that to her 2004 filing.
Posted by: 13ben at October 15, 2004 06:55 PM
NOW, THE DIRTY TRICKS BEGIN in EARNEST
Why "set-up"?
http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/politics/article/0,1406,KNS_356_3252873,00.html
Clearly, what was supposed to happen was that one operative was going to come into the campaign office and leave the flyers on a table full of other campaign materials, so that a *second* operative could come in, "find" the documents, and start raising a fuss.
But Fitzhugh's quick-witted and observant volunteer, Kate Honey, spotted the materials and had them thrown away.
So then the second operative comes by, expecting to find the materials there, and starts complaining about them -- *before* realizing that they've already been thrown away. As a backup, he goes out and retrieves them from the trash.
Instantly, Dave Dahl's campaign, local Republicans, conservative bloggers (including Drudge), and the local and national branches of the Traditional Values Coalition are posting the flyer online and making noise about how awful it is.
You'll note that, as this began happening, neither local GOP officials nor the TVC could identify who it was who had found the flyers. TVC says he was "out of town" and promises to get a name and number back to the press real soon.
Then we have this update, which came out over the AP wire today. You'll see that, by yesterday, the TVC had decided that a local guy named James Mitchell could pin the flier on the Fitzhugh campaign. So the Associated Press calls Mitchell, and this is the result:
http://miva.jacksonsun.com/miva/cgi-bin/miva?NEWS/news_storyV2.mv+link=200410156591581
Posted by: dr at October 15, 2004 06:55 PM
BORING CORRECTION:
some millionaires don't MIND......
Posted by: 13ben at October 15, 2004 06:56 PM
hey, celt
Posted by: dadalux at October 15, 2004 06:57 PM
http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/000119.html
http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/politics/article/0,1406,KNS_356_3252873,00.html
http://miva.jacksonsun.com/miva/cgi-bin/miva?NEWS/news_storyV2.mv+link=200410156591581
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200411/green
The other reason this W.-as-Special Olympian is obviously baloney?
Think about the phrasing of the flyer ("Voting for Bush is Like Running in the Special Olympics -- Even if You Win, You're Still Retarded.").
Who on earth is it supposed to convince?
People who were planning to vote for Bush but, on reflection, decide they won't want anyone thinking they're a retard? Please.
The *point* of the flyer is to enrage and motivate Bush supporters, while dismaying and demotivating Fitzhugh's (Dem) supporters and also making it hard for him to win ticket-splitters.
Everything about this stinks to high heaven.
-- Nick Confessore
http://www.prospect.org/weblog/
Posted by: dr at October 15, 2004 06:59 PM