Majority Report Radio: post show post

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 09:33 PM
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You are reading my mind. But I also think they are someone else who posts all of the time in their real voice. Kinda Jeckle and Hyde, OR Heckle and Jeckle whichever you prefer.

Posted by: K.Y.B. at September 10, 2004 09:40 PM

...........
so who is it?

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 09:53 PM

MY guess, Sunshine Jim or petemoon

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:06 PM

enjoyed the show!

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at September 10, 2004 10:05 PM

ya...Sunny....it was great.....I forgot it was Friday....

Posted by: RWiley at September 10, 2004 10:06 PM

Zogby (1018 LV) 9/8 - 9/9 46% 42% 2% Bush +4
AP/Ipsos (899 LV) 9/7 - 9/9 51% 46% 1% Bush +5
FOX/Opin. Dyn. (1000 LV) 9/7 - 9/8 47% 43% 3% Bush +4
ABC News/Wash Post (LV) 9/6 - 9/8 52% 43% 2% Bush +9
CBS News (909 RV) 9/6 - 9/8 49% 42% 1% Bush +7
CNN/USAT/Gallup (778 LV) 9/3 - 9/5 52% 45% 1% Bush +7
Newsweek (1,008 RV) 9/2 - 9/3 52% 41% 3% Bush +11
Time (926 LV) 8/31 - 9/2 52% 41% 3% Bush +11
Zogby (1001 LV) 8/30 - 9/2 46% 43% 3% Bush +3

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:07 PM

George Bush is a chickenshit.
Posted by: RWiley at September 10, 2004 10:00 PM
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Disgrace and Chickenhawk/Chickenshit, no doubt -- but, doesn't mean he's not a pilot.

Balloons? Really?

p :)

Posted by: petemoon at September 10, 2004 10:08 PM

I always thought Iceknife was Patrioterer. That JIK has verve!

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:09 PM

This is what I look like:

www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4035&n=3&id=3804

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at September 10, 2004 10:10 PM

Bush Leads Kerry With 52 Percent in Washington Post-ABC Poll

Sept. 9 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. President George W. Bush leads Democratic challenger John Kerry 52 percent to 43 percent in a national poll of likely voters taken by the Washington Post and ABC News.

Among registered voters, Bush holds a 50 percent to 44 percent over Kerry, a four-term senator from Massachusetts. The survey was conducted September 6-8 among 1,202 adults 18 or older, including 952 self-identified registered votes. The margin of error was plus or minus three percentage points.

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:10 PM

http://www.hatefree.com/

"HATE FREE" DOES NOT SUPPORT, AGREE OR UNDERSTAND
THE HEINOUS ACTS OF SOCIETY. ALL I AM SAYING IS THAT "HATE" DOES NOT MAKE THE BAD THINGS THAT HAPPENED ANY BETTER.

"I AM GOING TO CHANGE THE WORLD"
-Matt Wales-

ahhh...the pause that refreshes.....

Posted by: s h e l l at September 10, 2004 10:08 PM

Posted by: s h e l l at September 10, 2004 10:10 PM

MY guess, Sunshine Jim or petemoon

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:06 PM

I go with Sunshine Jim.......Jim is a pretty clever guy......then so is Pete....hard to say....will the real Rob Greenbaum stand up....then kiss my ass....lol

Posted by: RWiley at September 10, 2004 10:10 PM

Great show guys

Thank you!

Posted by: terry wilke at September 10, 2004 10:10 PM

Bush surges clear of Kerry

From correspondents in Washington

10sep04

US PRESIDENT George W. Bush has pulled nine points ahead of his Democratic rival John Kerry, a Washington Post-ABC News poll said today, confirming a trend observed after the Republican National Convention earlier this month.

Asked whom they planned to vote for in the November 2 US presidential election, 52 per cent of those most likely to vote named Bush, while 43 per cent named Kerry. Among all registered voters, the poll said, Bush's lead was 50-44 per cent.
The Washington Post said it was the first time this year in a Post-ABC poll that Bush got support of the majority of probable voters.

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:11 PM

Posted by: s h e l l at September 10, 2004 10:08 PM

Posted by: s h e l l at September 10, 2004 10:10 PM

Shell ? Who do you think Rob Greenbaum is?

Posted by: RWiley at September 10, 2004 10:11 PM

>>I cannt wait. I will have 4 more years of masterbating to GW pictures on Fox.

If I were you, I'd be taping all the Fox news you can get. Their Bush-pandering will have to last you the rest of your life.

BTW: did you tape The RNC convention? do you freeze frame on Zell Miller and 'touch yourself?'

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 10, 2004 10:12 PM

I'm a big fan of JIK even if he is a meddler par annoyance

Posted by: Nobody at September 10, 2004 10:12 PM

Nah. Just gives us somethin' to shoot at with our pellet guns. Gotta keep our aim sharp!

Posted by: bandelicious at September 10, 2004 10:04 PM

NO, you are acting like idiots! You all know its less than two months till the ELECTION, right?

POST SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE!!

http://mediamatters.org/items/200409100010
Forgery feeding frenzy: Media falling afoul of the facts

In an effort to obscure overwhelming evidence that President George W. Bush failed to fulfill his duty in the Air National Guard, conservatives have initiated the claim-now echoed widely by the media-that memos revealed by CBS News' 60 Minutes on September 8-and purportedly written by one of Bush's commanders in 1972 and 1973-are fake. The memos, if authentic, provide additional evidence that Bush was given preferential treatment and ignored a direct order. The case for their authenticity is strong.

Forgery evidence dubious

On Sept. 9, Conservative media sources including L. Brent Bozell III's Cybercast News Service, Internet gossip Matt Drudge, The Weekly Standard's Stephen F. Hayes and FOX News Channel's Special Report with Brit Hume followed right-wing bloggers in detailing evidence to support the claim that the documents were forged. On Sept. 10, The Washington Post, ABC News, and The New York Times outlined elements of the documents that raised questions about their authenticity.

But these questions do not withstand scrutiny; there is solid evidence to support the authenticity of the documents, and reporters have often failed to note plausible explanations for the apparent anomalies. For example, Salon.com's Eric Boehlert noted in a Sept. 10 article that a close examination of the documents reveals characteristics not found in word processing documents. Marty Heldt, an independent researcher Boehlert cited, "notes that when [Lieutenant Colonel Jerry B.] Killian's [alleged author of the documents] Aug. 14, 1973, memo is enlarged and the word 'interference' is examined, it's clear the two middle e's rest higher on the page than the other two e's; that is not something a modern-day word processor would likely do."
Posted by: take back your fuckin blog!! at September 10, 2004 10:12 PM

I go with Sunshine Jim.......Jim is a pretty clever guy......then so is Pete....hard to say....
Posted by: RWiley at September 10, 2004 10:10 PM
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Maybe -- but, neither of us was quoted on the show tonight!!!

p :)

Posted by: petemoon at September 10, 2004 10:12 PM

p :)

Posted by: petemoon at September 10, 2004 10:08 PM

uh huh

Posted by: RWiley at September 10, 2004 10:13 PM

What's the punishment for being a deserter during a time of war?

Ask the marines father that burned the government vehicle when they came to tell him his son was killed in Iraq.

Flog the I'm a Fighter Pilot Asshole.

Posted by: pablo at September 10, 2004 10:13 PM

I would be disappointed if Patrioterer (the Performance Blogger) was anyone else but his/herself.
Some artists have integrity and a sense of self.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 10:13 PM

50 days to go, 10 points behind, Kerry struggles for second wind

Julian Borger with Democrats on the campaign trail in Ohio, Iowa and Missouri

Saturday September 11, 2004
The Guardian

With 50 days left in his presidential campaign and nearly 10 points behind in the polls, John Kerry found himself this week in a familiar situation: surrounded by people willing him on, but who were having trouble understanding what he had to say.
The venue was the cavernous semi-dome of Cincinnati's art deco railway terminal, now a stunning museum, but a problematic place to hold a rally. Senator Kerry's voice echoed like a forlorn platform announcement, and determined local supporters like John Figurel struggled to hear what he was saying.

"I want him to get tougher," Mr Figurel said, conceding that if Mr Kerry had been tougher in the speech, he had missed it.

That has been Mr Kerry's problem all along.

After all the months on the road, many Americans are unclear about what he stands for, partly thanks to the efforts of the White House, which spent much of last week's Republican convention in New York lampooning him as a "flip-flopper".

The charge has been hard to scrape off, because it contains a large fragment of truth.

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:13 PM

Bush leading Kerry in battleground states

Washington, DC, Sep. 10 (UPI) -- President Bush's New York convention gave him a political first in this campaign: a majority of probable voters saying they plan to vote for him.

A Washington Post-ABC News poll released Friday found among those most likely to vote in November, Bush holds a lead of 52 percent to 43 percent over Kerry, with independent Ralph Nader getting 2 percent of the hypothetical vote.

Among all registered voters, Bush leads Kerry 50 percent to 44 percent.

In 19 closely contested states Bush holds a narrower lead among likely voters, 50 percent to 46 percent, the poll found.

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:15 PM

hi terry wilke! nice you're back again...
:)

and hi again RW

HI PETEMOON!! yippee skippee fun...i have to admit i always wish nikki poo is blogging when you're here - you two are funny together...

he's been working a lot he said ..but i hope he stops in too...

hidey ho SUNSHINE!! your herbs went out wednesday so expect them soon...i don't think the lemon verbena is going to arrive wet...but they grow so great and hearty if you like it you can plant one...
:)

Posted by: shell at September 10, 2004 10:15 PM

I'm a big fan of JIK even if he is a meddler par annoyance

"even if"? That's another one of his fine qualities!

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:15 PM

MY guess, Sunshine Jim or petemoon

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:06 PM

I go with Sunshine Jim.......Jim is a pretty clever guy......then so is Pete....hard to say....will the real Rob Greenbaum stand up....then kiss my ass....lol

Posted by: RWiley at September 10, 2004 10:10 PM

8888888888888888888888888888888

I am wounded. to not even be in the running for miss Patrioteer'.

snivel. I don't know whether to weep or bite my pillow

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 10, 2004 10:15 PM

ooh!!! how weird -- my last post got combined with somebody elses!!!

p :(

Posted by: petemoon at September 10, 2004 10:15 PM

hey chubby...how'd the interview go and why can i only see one of your cats on the pic site?

Posted by: shell at September 10, 2004 10:16 PM

(AP) In a surprise move John F Kerry busts a cap in W's ass. Kerry was immediately brought down by the secret service. Cheney immediately stepped in and took control. After finding out that W was not killed and it was only a figure of speech Dick Cheney took advantage of the weapons ban lapse and bought himself a new rifle and invited W to go hunting.

God but I hate fake ass news stories that the troll post don't you?

Posted by: Nobody at September 10, 2004 10:16 PM

Polls Suggest War Isn't Hurting Bush

Mounting Deaths in Iraq Have Not Resulted in Major Backlash in Public Opinion

By John F. Harris and Thomas E. Ricks
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, September 10, 2004; Page A10

This spring, when mounting casualties and a prison scandal were causing public support for President Bush's Iraq policies to plunge, his campaign strategists were confidently predicting that Iraq problems would present no major threat to his reelection once U.S. forces turned over authority to an interim government in Baghdad.

In the months since, the evidence so far has proven that prediction more right than wrong.

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:16 PM

I would be disappointed if Patrioterer (the Performance Blogger) was anyone else but his/herself.
Some artists have integrity and a sense of self.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 10:13 PM

You snarky little.....little.....little cranker!
:)

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at September 10, 2004 10:16 PM

I thought Mr. Scheff was great. It is about time this subject finally started getting some media attention.

Posted by: KJS at September 10, 2004 10:16 PM

Disgrace and Chickenhawk/Chickenshit, no doubt -- but, doesn't mean he's not a pilot.

p :)

Posted by: petemoon at September 10, 2004 10:08 PM

True.....I was just ranting because he obviously screwed up an opportunity that many of us would have taken advantage.

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:17 PM

I don't know whether to weep or bite my pillow
Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 10, 2004 10:15 PM
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Always a bridesmaid, never a bride?

p :)

Posted by: petemoon at September 10, 2004 10:17 PM

Bloomberg, Washington Post ....

Hmmmm, I wonder if these are right wing papers?

Posted by: terry wilke at September 10, 2004 10:17 PM

You all are so full of it. After Kerry got no bounce out of the DNC, you said it was because there were no undecided voters left. Now that the president is holding a clear lead over Kerry (8-11 points), you have no explanation.

Bush is going to carry a minimum of 90% of the GOP vote. Kerry is only polling in the 70s of the Democratic vote. Where are the other Dems going to go? They are voting for the president, like their fellow Dem, Zell Miller.

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at September 10, 2004 10:17 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/elections/2004/images/chartingCandidates_top10.gif

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:17 PM

even if

Posted by: Nobody at September 10, 2004 10:17 PM

take back your ummmm blog!!

We've been on that all night:

Dan Rather and CBS News find
their lost investigative reporting
intestinal fortitude !!

CBS Stands By Bush-Guard Memos

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/06/politics/main641481.shtml

Rather laid it on the line tonight
and backed up the story, answered
all of the criticisms, point by
point.

Posted by: Ajax at September 10, 2004 07:43 PM

Posted by: Ajax at September 10, 2004 10:17 PM

Kerry is back in the race, says latest poll
Analysis of swing states gives challenger small lead

Julian Borger in Washington
Wed. Sept. 8, 2004

The Guardian

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1299385,00.html

Forecasts of John Kerry's political demise may have been exaggerated in recent days, and he could still be clinging to a narrow lead in the US presidential race, according to a poll published yesterday.
The poll, by Zogby International, reflected the state of play in 20 swing states, and found that the surge in George Bush's support there after last week's Republican convention, was less pronounced than the double-digits suggested in two weekend polls.

Those surveys, in Time and Newsweek, triggered alarm and finger-pointing in the Democratic camp, and a reshuffle in the Kerry team. But other surveys have since suggested the Bush convention "bounce" was much smaller and the contest remains a close one.

The Zogby poll says the president has made up ground in many of the 20 battleground states, but Mr Kerry retains a slim lead in most of them - enough to give him a majority in the electoral college, if the vote was held now.

Posted by: Obama Obama at September 10, 2004 10:18 PM

HI PETEMOON!! yippee skippee fun...i have to admit i always wish nikki poo is blogging when you're here - you two are funny together...
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I am crushed.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 10:18 PM

There is no way to spin this as anything but incredible news for the president and horrible news for John Kerry.

After a near flawless convention the Bush numbers are soaring through the roof according to the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll.

First, the President leads John kerry 52%-43% among likely voters. And the underlying numbers are incredible.

Trust to Handle the Issues

Issue

Terrorism---Bush 57% Kerry 35%

Iraq---Bush 53% Kerry 37%

Economy---Bush 47% Kerry 43%

Education---Bush 46% Kerry 42%

Jobs---Bush 43% Kerry 45%

Here is the post convention bump...

Bush job approval at 52%

"Clearer stand on issues": Bush up 27% over Kerry

"Stronger leader": Bush up 27% over Kerry

"Make country safer": Bush up 19% over Kerry

Trust to handle terrorism: Bush up 22% over Kerry

Trust to handle Iraq: Bush up 16%

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:18 PM

Bush doesn't have any more than a 3 point lead at maximum rob...keep dreaming...

just like their leader...declaring mission accomplished just for arriving to the fight.

Posted by: Nobody at September 10, 2004 10:19 PM

Hiya, shell!!!!!

Toss Cranky a bone, will ya?

p :)

Posted by: petemoon at September 10, 2004 10:19 PM

oh....for shame on me crank bait!! how could i be so....so....
my most humble apologies to you!! i'll find a way to make it up to you...
how dare i overlook your comic genius?!
:)

Posted by: shell at September 10, 2004 10:20 PM

CBS STANDS BY BUSH-GUARD MEMOS
CBS News / Associated Press
September 10, 2004

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/06/politics/main641481.shtml

NEW YORK - Questions have been raised about the authenticity of newly
unearthed memos acquired by CBS News that say President Bush's National
Guard commander believed Mr. Bush was shirking his duties.

The network is defending the authenticity of the memos, which were obtained
by CBS News' "60 Minutes," saying experts who examined the memos concluded
they were authentic documents produced by Mr. Bush's former commander, Lt.
Col. Jerry Killian.

In a statement, CBS News said it stands by its story.

"This report was not based solely on recovered documents, but rather on a
preponderance of evidence, including documents that were provided by
unimpeachable sources, interviews with former Texas National Guard officials
and individuals who worked closely back in the early 1970s with Colonel
Jerry Killian and were well acquainted with his procedures, his character
and his thinking," the statement read.

"In addition, the documents are backed up not only by independent
handwriting and forensic document experts but by sources familiar with their
content," the statement continued. "Contrary to some rumors, no internal
investigation is underway at CBS News nor is one planned."

CBS News Anchor Dan Rather says many of those raising questions about the
documents have focused on something called superscript, a key that
automatically types a raised "th."

Critics claim typewriters didn't have that ability in the 1970s. But some
models did. In fact, other Bush military records already released by the
White House itself show the same superscript including one from 1968.

Some analysts outside CBS say they believe the typeface on these memos is
New Times Roman, which they claim was not available in the 1970s.

But the owner of the company that distributes this typing style says it h

Posted by: ceres at September 10, 2004 10:20 PM

I'm getting excited about the election! I know that the president is going to unite the country behind his strong and decisive leadership.

Only a VOCAL minority like you all hate the president. And who cares what people like you and Michael Moore think? Most of the people who saw F911 already hated our president to begin with.

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at September 10, 2004 10:20 PM

I would be disappointed if Patrioterer (the Performance Blogger) was anyone else but his/herself.
Some artists have integrity and a sense of self.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 10:13 PM

If someone chooses to play a charactor other than him/herself, he should at least have the decency to pay tribute to Nobody and show him the respect that he has earned many times over.

Posted by: Nobody's Right Hand Man at September 10, 2004 10:20 PM

Look, you little Nobody... I *I* cum, then sex is accomplished. Caint hep it if YOOR frigid, now can I!

It's not premature ejaculation if yer the PRESIDENT, cuz the PRESIDENT decides when it's time to squirt.

Now bend over and beg for your life. That gets me so hot!

Posted by: W at September 10, 2004 10:21 PM

hi ceres!
:)

Posted by: shell at September 10, 2004 10:21 PM

even if
Posted by: Nobody at September 10, 2004 10:17 PM
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Seconded.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 10:21 PM

Geez, if the polls say everyone
is voting for Bush, then maybe
I will too !!

ROFL

Posted by: Ajax at September 10, 2004 10:22 PM

Kerry is back in the race, says latest poll
Analysis of swing states gives challenger small lead

Julian Borger in Washington
Wed. Sept. 8, 2004

The Guardian

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1299385,00.html
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50 days to go, 10 points behind, Kerry struggles for second wind

Julian Borger with Democrats on the campaign trail in Ohio, Iowa and Missouri

Saturday September 11, 2004
The Guardian

-Two stories, three days apart, very different stats. What's going on?

Posted by: Obama Obama at September 10, 2004 10:22 PM

Homosexuality goes against the Bible. Oh, wait! I doubt any of you have heard of that good book!

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
Dear Rob,

Can you please point to chapter and verse on this for me, because I am not learned in this aspect of the teachings of Christ.

Of course, just so you know, I practice a form of Christianity that focuses exclusively on Jesus' teachings.

To me, it is much more straight-forward to follow the teachings of Jesus, simple as they are, rather than to pick and choose among verses in the Old and New Testaments, merely as a transparent technique to justify one's preconceptions and prejudices.

Truthfully, if you must rely on the Old Testament to "prove" that homosexuality is "immoral", for the sake of consistency I do recommend that you follow all the laws of the Old Testament; e.g., you must fix tassles with blue cords on all your garments to follow the law of God (Numbers 15:38).

Seriously, Rob, can you tell me where Jesus condemns homosexuality, please?

Posted by: ilo at September 10, 2004 10:22 PM

http://www.thefourreasons.org/

http://www.impeachbushbumperstickers.com/

http://www.bushoccupation.com/

http://democrats.com/elandslide/petition.cfm?campaign=911

http://www.counterpunch.org/boyle01172003.html

http://www.impeachbush.tv/

http://www.impeachbush.tv/impeach/articles.html

http://www.impeachbush.tv/impeach/grounds.html

http://www.votetoimpeach.org

http://www.impeach-bush-now.org/

http://161.58.14.9/store/

http://www.thetip.org/impeach.php

http://georgebush.thetip.org/

c'mon rob greenbaum...sign em...you know you want to...the last guy got it for a lie about a blow job...remember?
:)

http://www.hatefree.com/

Posted by: shell at September 10, 2004 10:23 PM

The president is going to get a bounce out of the 9/11 anniversary. People will reflect on the president's strong leadership on that day and be reminded of what made them fall in love with him in the first place.

This election is all about LEADERSHIP, NOT issues. Kerry has no chance!

If you don't believe me, go to your local Wal-Mart (they're never short of people) and ask around. People will tell you how much they love the president (and how much they love Wal-Mart too). :)

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at September 10, 2004 10:23 PM

hi ceres!
:)

Posted by: shell at September 10, 2004 10:21 PM

Hi Shell!! :)

Posted by: ceres at September 10, 2004 10:23 PM

Geez, if the polls say everyone
is voting for Bush, then maybe
I will too !!

ROFL
Posted by: Ajax at September 10, 2004 10:22 PM

Guess you're right. Here's my towel.

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:23 PM

Saturday September 11, 2004
The Guardian
Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:13 PM

By John F. Harris and Thomas E. Ricks
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, September 10, 2004; Page A10
Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:16 PM

Troll bullshit.... post the link!

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at September 10, 2004 10:23 PM

Me and Rob and the entire rectal mucus community want all stupid people to be comfortable and vote for Bush because he is stupid just like them! YAY STUPIDNESS! YAY! We will win because we have STUPID POWER, not like you smartybutt fancypants thinkyhead people. The grown-ups are in charge, so NEENER NEENER ON YOU BITCHES! Ha ha ha!

Posted by: Pootsnarkie at September 10, 2004 10:24 PM

how dare i overlook your comic genius?!
Posted by: shell at September 10, 2004 10:20 PM
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Because it is often not comic and never genius?

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 10:24 PM

>>hey chubby...how'd the interview go and why can i only see one of your cats on the pic site?

interview...they said they'll let me know in a week or so... I don't feel too great about the chances. From recent experience when I am interviewed by 2 people who are at least ten years younger than me I might as well just keep going.

as for the cat pic. Its a privacy issue. Rufus doesn't "want to be exploited by the paparazzi."

I'll have to repost them. now if I can just find my way back to the mrr pic site at yahoo...

li'l help, please?

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 10, 2004 10:24 PM

I NEVER said that Jesus condemned homosexuality. It is in the bible, however. In the Old Testament, it is said that a man is not to lie down with another man.

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at September 10, 2004 10:24 PM

John Kerry and George W. Bush remain tied among all voters nationwide, with Kerry at 48% and Bush at 45%. With Ralph Nader on the ballot, Kerry is at 46%, Bush is at 45%, and Nader is at 3%. Among likely voters, Bush is at 48% and Kerry is at 47% in a two-way ballot and Bush and Kerry are tied at 47% each, with Nader at 3%, in a three-way ballot. See the results among registered voters from the August 30-September 1 survey

http://www.americanresearchgroup.com/

Posted by: terry wilke at September 10, 2004 10:24 PM

LL Obama Ilo

cheers!

i must be feelin all jane friendly tonight...
i'd better smoke one and relax a bit...

Posted by: shell at September 10, 2004 10:25 PM

Yes Rob...W is a uniter...split the country right down the middle...He wins it's likely to start a civil war...

He loses it's likely to start a civil war...either way around Rob...what's your address? ;)

Posted by: Nobody at September 10, 2004 10:26 PM

I've been shopping for a really hot little blue dress. That'll be my ticket to fullfilling my greatest dream -- sucking George Bushes dick!!!

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at September 10, 2004 10:26 PM

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at September 10, 2004 10:17 PM

Hey....numbnuts!
You're an idiot.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at September 10, 2004 10:26 PM

Guess you're right. Here's my towel.
Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:23 PM
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Damn. Wish I'd said that.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 10:27 PM

There is no way to spin this as anything but incredible news for John Kerry and horrible news for fascists.

Morton Kondracke: Bush and Kerry tied again
By MORTON KONDRACKE, Newspaper Enterprise Association
September 10, 2004

http://www.naplesnews.com/npdn/pe_columnists/article/0,2071,NPDN_14960_3171389,00.html

President Bush may have gotten a "bump" in support during the GOP convention, but it's already dissipated. Once again, he's tied with Democrat John Kerry.

That's the evidence emerging from daily tracks by the Rasmussen poll. And focus groups in 17 battleground states conducted by Democratic consultant Bob Beckel also suggest that Bush failed to decisively convert undecided voters.

Polling 1,000 voters a night, Rasmussen found that Bush went into the Republican convention with a one-point lead, 47 percent to 46 percent, and came out Sept. 4 with a lead of 4.4 points, 49.1 percent to 44.7 percent.

By Sept. 7, however, the race had slipped back to 47-47. That's a more accurate measure of the race than the average of four other current polls that give Bush a six-point lead.

Also suggesting a tie is the fact that the Gallup poll, while showing Bush leading by seven points among likely voters, also found Bush leading by just one among registered voters.

Many experts expect that the prospect of a big turnout this year makes the registered-voter figure the more accurate predictor.

Posted by: Obama Obama at September 10, 2004 10:27 PM

Some bloggers come here for political enlightenment and discussion......I come here for the women......

Posted by: RWiley at September 10, 2004 10:28 PM

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 10, 2004 10:24 PM

Oh! brutal with two young interviewers!! that sux...

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MajorityReportPixOverspill/

"as for the cat pic. Its a privacy issue. Rufus doesn't "want to be exploited by the paparazzi."

ROTFLMAO!! (first time tonight - thank you my chubbles!!)

Posted by: shell at September 10, 2004 10:28 PM

"The president is going to get a bounce out of the 9/11 anniversary."

Yep, gonna get6 a bounce alright... right out of office and into a prison.

An NYC firefighter is coming forward this weekend to reveal that three of the four black box recorders from Sept. 11th were found. The administration has repeatedly lied about that, and now it's going to be public knowledge.

When Bush goes to prison, we're going to start rounding all his child molesting kiddie porn ring buddies (like you, frank) and put you in a pit.

Now explain to us why you hate children, Jesus, and AMerica, and why you're using a jewish name when you're obviously just another neonazi. Oh, wait, that's self-explanatory, nevermind.

Posted by: he who has JIK'd you yet again at September 10, 2004 10:28 PM

The way you all hate this president reminds me of how people hated Lincoln in his day. They called him a baboon, the way you all call this president a "chimp".

Someday, this president will be thought of as one of the greatest leaders we have ever had. He will, in the words of Mayor Giuliani, be seen as "America's Churchill."

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at September 10, 2004 10:28 PM

I missed the CBS report on the authenticity of the docs on TV, but Annatopia posted this link to stream it:
http://bushlies2.us/
Thanks gal!

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:28 PM

"I NEVER said that Jesus condemned homosexuality. It is in the bible, however. In the Old Testament, it is said that a man is not to lie down with another man."

So it's ok if they stand up or is it bad to all sleep at once?

You're so confusing Rob...

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Posted by: pablo at September 10, 2004 10:29 PM

Guess you're right. Here's my towel.
Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:23 PM
----------------------------
Damn. Wish I'd said that.
Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 10:27 PM

No -- wait -- I've changed my mind! Cut me Adrien!!!!

Posted by: bandelicious at September 10, 2004 10:29 PM

Hey....numbnuts!
You're an idiot.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Presidential_04/RCP_EC.html

A bit more current!

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:30 PM

my greatest dream -- sucking George Bushes dick!!!
ROB GREENBAUM

not quite what i meant by smokin one...but to each his own...

thanks for the visual...it'll be your legacy..

Posted by: shell at September 10, 2004 10:30 PM

Rob Greenbaum, you pray to your lord GW Bush, but you spend your lonely dateless Friday night with liberals. You sir a closet liberal.

That said, The Nasty Boy must go and make a lovely young woman's eyes go crossways.

Good night all.

Posted by: The Nasty Boy at September 10, 2004 10:30 PM

've been shopping for a really hot little blue dress. That'll be my ticket to fullfilling my greatest dream -- sucking George Bushes dick!!!

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at September 10, 2004 10:26 PM

You might as well.....with all the other crimes he has done.....no one will even notice....and if they do.....blow jobs will be redefined as a right wing family value...

Posted by: RWiley at September 10, 2004 10:30 PM

"Someday, this president will be thought of as one of the greatest leaders we have ever had."

The same thing was said about Hitler...pssst it didn't work out for him any mroe than it will W

Posted by: Nobody at September 10, 2004 10:30 PM

I don't know how many people I talked to after 9/11 who said thank god our president was at the helm that day.

If Gore were in charge, he wouldn't have retaliated for 9/11. He would have let the terrorists win.

If Kerry were in charge, he would have blamed us and written a surrender to the terrorists in French. :)

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at September 10, 2004 10:31 PM

Posted by: shell at September 10, 2004 10:23 PM

Damn, girl....all at once! *snark*
How's it goin?

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at September 10, 2004 10:32 PM

and if W had won, he'd have fucked it up just the way he's doing now

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:33 PM

Kerry Slips Behind Bush in 3 `Battleground' States (Update1)

Sept. 10 (Bloomberg)

-- Democratic nominee John Kerry lost ground to President George W. Bush in Ohio, Missouri and Arizona this week, according to polls in three of the 17 to 20 states both campaigns say will decide the November election.

The three states together account for 41 of the 270 Electoral College votes needed to win the election. Polls conducted for USA Today/Cable News Network and the Arizona Republic show Bush with leads in all three of at least 9 percentage points, all outside of the margins of error.

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:33 PM

Eya CB

http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/MRRpics/lst

eya cranker

i'm an ol helium balloonatic

we logged with a 70 footer!

used to fly it up to the side

Mt Octopus Ho Rainforest in

Wash state south of Forks Wa

Eyayayayaya Shell!!

wow how cool! deff will plant!

howz it goin kiddoo? say hi

to yer ol man fer us too!

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at September 10, 2004 10:33 PM

I got rained on a lot in that particular forest jimmy...wettest spot in the state

Posted by: Nobody at September 10, 2004 10:34 PM

One more time!
If Bush was running against Jesus :)
http://www.dailykos.com/images/user/3/jesusbush.jpg

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:35 PM

Posted by: ilo at September 10, 2004 10:22 PM
++++++++++++++
I NEVER said that Jesus condemned homosexuality. It is in the bible, however. In the Old Testament, it is said that a man is not to lie down with another man.

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum
++++++++++++++++++++++++

If this, truly, is your justification, Rob, I suggest again, as I have above, that you fix tassels with blue cords to your garments, since this is the Law of God in the Old Testament.

However, if your WERE a Christian - which I suspect you arre not - you surely would be familiar with the teachings of Jesus.

For instance, as to the Old Testament Laws, Jesus teaches us:

"The law and the prophets were until John [the Baptist]: since that time the kingdom of heaven is preached."
-- Luke 16:16

"Ye are not under the law, but under grace."
-- Romans 6:14

"Ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ .... We are delivered from the law, that being dead."
-- Romans 7:4, 6

"But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law."
-- Galatians 5:18

"Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances."
-- Ephesians 2:15

Therefore, as Jesus never condemned anyone for homosexuality, and Jesus relieved us from the trivia of the Old Laws, I really do feel that those so-called "Chrisitans" who spread hate against homosexual human-beings ... you know, I just feel so sad and so truly sorry for you.

Posted by: ilo at September 10, 2004 10:35 PM

I NEVER said that Jesus condemned homosexuality. It is in the bible, however. In the Old Testament, it is said that a man is not to lie down with another man.

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at September 10, 2004 10:24 PM

So if we take that literally, then gay sex is okie dokie as long as you do it standing up?

Posted by: terry wilke at September 10, 2004 10:35 PM

Because it is often not comic and never genius?
Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 10:24 PM
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Oh . . . now . . . it's ALWAYS comic, and I'd be embarrased to admit the number of times its risen to a level of genius that's made me green with envy!!!

p :)

Posted by: petemoon at September 10, 2004 10:35 PM

If President Bush wants to torture people, that's his business. We all have to do something to get our rocks off. You liberals act as if you don't have little kinks and quirks. All this nonsense about torturing children is whiny effeminite foolishness. What does it matter if some children are anally raped, if it makes Americans feel safer, and makes the President happy? You people need to grow up and be manly like me and the President! :)

Posted by: Rob Greedbum at September 10, 2004 10:35 PM

Here ya go, CB.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MRRpics/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MajorityReportPixOverspill/

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at September 10, 2004 10:36 PM

wettest spot in the state

Posted by: Nobody at September 10, 2004 10:34 PM

When did the conversation shift to Nobody's bed?

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:36 PM

If Kerry were in charge, he would have blamed us and written a surrender to the terrorists in French. :)
Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at September 10, 2004 10:31 PM

Ah, but the French didn't buy it. They took his overtures as insults and remarked:

"You cannot have a permission slip, American pig-dog! Go and boil your bottom, son of a silly person. I blow my nose at you, so-called Kerry King, you and all your silly American k-nnnnniggets. Thpppppt! Thppt! Thppt!"

See, the whole French sympathizer thing is an obvious fabrication!

Posted by: bandelicious at September 10, 2004 10:37 PM

would be disappointed if Patrioterer (the Performance Blogger) was anyone else but his/herself.
Some artists have integrity and a sense of self.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 10:13 PM

True. It would be like if Janeane's rants were scripted.

Posted by: Rusty at September 10, 2004 10:37 PM

all's well LL...

cept for my deer family that comes by twice a day...the baby got stuck in a mass of wires at the neighbors house and now i't eye is all messed up from what i can see it's not the actual eye, just all around it is all bloody...

i don't know of any way to catch a fawn (or a deer) to get it to a vet...seems like it will heal ok though i hope....

*SNARK*...still love that...i don't know why! i can see you saying it and it cracks me up....
loving the music too so thank you again...
:)

Posted by: shell at September 10, 2004 10:37 PM

http://alternet.org/images/managed/Story+Image_thumb_bushhalo200.jpg

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:37 PM

Rob Greenbaum you are TOO funny!

IT's SATIRE FOLKS!

Rob Greenbaum IS Patrioterer!

Someday, this president will be thought of as one of the greatest leaders we have ever had. He will, in the words of Mayor Giuliani, be seen as "America's Churchill."

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at September 10, 2004 10:28 PM

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!

Great!

Posted by: Catharine at September 10, 2004 10:38 PM

oh....for shame on me crank bait!! how could i be so....so....
my most humble apologies to you!! i'll find a way to make it up to you...
how dare i overlook your comic genius?!
:)

Posted by: shell at September 10, 2004 10:20 PM

i am crushed. (velvet)

how could you miss me?

all the funny no-nic ones are mine

well, back to the old eraserboard

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:38 PM

The president is going to get a bounce out of the 9/11 anniversary, just as soon as someone reminds him of what happened that day. People will reflect on the president's strong leadership on that day and be reminded of what made me fall in love with him in the first place: the crazed look of a gay SS commander in his eyes that say to me, time to ride the big white pony.

This election is all about LEADERSHIP, NOT issues. And besides, I'm sorry but John doesn't have nearly the rock-hard butt and left forearm of Dubya. In my labido, Kerry has no chance!

If you don't believe me, go to your local Wal-Mart (they're never short of short people hwo like to shop wearing plaid and house slippers) and ask around. People will tell you how much they love the president (and how much they love Wal-Mart too, even though the .25 they are saving on toothpaste is helping to close the businesses in the area). :)

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at September 10, 2004 10:23 PM

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:38 PM

"was anyone else but his/herself."

No matter what name or what voice, how can a person help but be anyone but themselves?

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:39 PM

He will, in the words of Mayor Giuliani, be seen as "America's Churchill."
Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at September 10, 2004 10:28 PM
================================================

Can I see a show of hands for, "America's Mussolini?" "America's Stalin?"

p :)

Posted by: petemoon at September 10, 2004 10:39 PM

well

they in my lap

jaxxer an ruzzalyn

know it's W, A, L, K, time!!

lately they make me play during the commercials

or they make noise durin the show!

(lil snorts! cya in a bit!)

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at September 10, 2004 10:39 PM

Don't we have separation of church and state in this country?

Maybe rob would be more comfortable in a theocracy like Iran?

Any augment against gay marriage and for a constitutional amendment against equal rights for all based on religion is foundationally un-American

Posted by: terry wilke at September 10, 2004 10:39 PM

Hey Ter:

How's things?...the campaign?

And if I didn't personally thank you before...

great work for all the great pics in NYC!

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at September 10, 2004 10:39 PM

The French have never forgiven us for liberating them!

John Kerry can't wait to get cologne tips from Chirac.

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at September 10, 2004 10:40 PM

>>Someday, this president will be thought of as one of the greatest leaders we have ever had. He will, in the words of Mayor Giuliani, be seen as "America's Churchill."

yeah, you neo-cons have been trying to sell that one since 9-11. Problem is, most of the world view him as closer to Hitler.

Looks like someone dumped every pic I had there. In fact, dumped the whole folder... Pisses me off.

I'd skinnied my # o' pics down for the NY RNC PICs (most of these were copied from ny imc, so they had no unique value whatsoever)

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 10, 2004 10:40 PM

The French have never forgiven us for liberating them!

John Kerry can't wait to get cologne tips from Chirac.

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at September 10, 2004 10:40 PM

I NEVER said that Jesus condemned homosexuality. It is in the bible, however. In the Old Testament, it is said that a man is not to lie down with another man.

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at September 10, 2004 10:24 PM

So if we take that literally, then gay sex is okie dokie as long as you do it standing up?

Posted by: terry wilke at September 10, 2004 10:35 PM

LOL. You have to understand. People like this tore down all of those Robert Maplethorpe pix before they had a chance to learn anything.

Posted by: Rusty at September 10, 2004 10:41 PM

"America's Mussolini?"

Ooooh! That one! I want that one!

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:41 PM

Fascism rears it's ugly head in America..

And it's not the Nazi party but rather the republican Party.

Posted by: terry wilke at September 10, 2004 10:42 PM

can you believe that the old man is anti blog sunshine?...he likes to call it "my hobby"...he is LA now...remember our client that died in july? he's going to see her husband today and that won't be easy...he really loved georgine and is real sad she died...

anyway...on a lighter note:

The sunshine seeks my little room
To tell me Paris streets are gay;
That children cry the lily bloom
All up and down the leafy way;
That half the town is mad with May,
With flame of flag and boom of bell:
For Carnival is King to-day;
So pen and page, awhile farewell.

-Robert Service
The sunshine seeks my little room

SJ here's a link to 832 Robert K Service Poems fer ya!
http://www.completeclassics.com/p/t/poet.asp?poet=9717

brb...have to have a shower...it was frickin HOT today!!!!!

Posted by: shell at September 10, 2004 10:44 PM

~~~An NYC firefighter is coming forward this weekend to reveal that three of the four black box recorders from Sept. 11th were found. The administration has repeatedly lied about that, and now it's going to be public knowledge.~~~

Got any other info, Icey...maybe a link?

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at September 10, 2004 10:44 PM

Disheartened and disappointed by people like Rob, who seem determined to try and demoralize you? Do what I do.... seek out republicans, engage them in dialogue, and call them child torture advocates. When they threaten you, BEAT THE FUCKING SHIT OUT OF THEM AND SEND THEIR TIRED WIMPY SISSYBITCH ASSES TO THE HOSPITAL FOR A WEEK OR TWO.

Really, it improves my mood on a daily basis, and I don't hesitate to recommend it. For every post by one of these cretins, I either help a democratic candidate with a donation, or PUMMEL THE LIFE HALF WAY OUT OF SOME SHIT REPUG WAR-WHORE!

Ahhh, life is GOOD!

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:44 PM

If Gore were in charge, he wouldn't have retaliated for 9/11. He would have let the terrorists win.Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at September 10, 2004 10:31 PM
------------------
As head of the administration's terrorism task force, Gore was in charge after the 1993 WTC bombing. They caught the guys, brought them back to the US, presecuted them and put them in jail where they remain today.

They thwarted the millenium plot, the holland tunnel plot, and two airline plots and others.

Perhaps President Kerry should put Gore in charge of Homeland Security?

Posted by: nmark at September 10, 2004 10:45 PM

If you really want to find out who's going to win the election, go to Wal-Mart and ask around! If you don't like Wal-Mart, go to Target! Or go to the supermarket! Or go to the PX!

If you're looking specifically for Kerry voters, go to the welfare office. :)

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at September 10, 2004 10:45 PM

how could you miss me?
all the funny no-nic ones are mine
well, back to the old eraserboard
Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:38 PM
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Hey. I give my chlamydia infections names.
You want recognition? Get one. (not a chlamydia infection...a name)

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 10:46 PM

wettest spot in the state
Posted by: Nobody at September 10, 2004 10:34 PM

When did the conversation shift to Nobody's bed?
Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:36 PM
==============================================

OMG!!! That's so funny!!!!! Oh -- WAIT -- I'm not in 7th grade anymore!!! :(

I wouldn't have signed my name to that one, either.

p :)

Posted by: petemoon at September 10, 2004 10:46 PM

How did you guys like the "Purple Heart Band aids" at the RNC? I got some on Ebay. I can't wait to wear them when I vote. :)

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at September 10, 2004 10:47 PM

Hey Ter:

How's things?...the campaign?

And if I didn't personally thank you before...

great work for all the great pics in NYC!

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at September 10, 2004 10:39 PM

Thank you so much, it was my pleasure I had the time of my life.

The New Yorkers were a great bunch, very liberal.

And the blogers were fantastic!

I'm trying to figure out if there is some way I could move there.

A union friend of mine said they had to drag him out kicking and screaming, now I understand why!

Posted by: terry wilke at September 10, 2004 10:47 PM

Sorry, I was wrong. went to the overflow site instead. I can learn to trust again!

here's a shot of les frères de chat:

http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/mrrpics/vwp?.dir=/animal+friends!&.src=gr&.dnm=Rusty%26Rufus.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/mrrpics/lst%3f%26.dir=/animal%2bfriends!%26.src=gr%26.view=t

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 10, 2004 10:49 PM

He will, in the words of Mayor Giuliani, be seen as "America's Churchill."
Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at September 10, 2004 10:28 PM
================================================

Can I see a show of hands for, "America's Mussolini?" "America's Stalin?"

p :)

Posted by: petemoon at September 10, 2004 10:39 PM

Remember.. We New Yorkers called him Hitler too and that really pissed him off. An artist did a portrait of him as Hitler... and he stomped his feet and did the Hitler jig and said, "I am not, I am NOT! Now I will have to kill you..."

Posted by: Catharine at September 10, 2004 10:49 PM

If you're looking specifically for Kerry voters, go to the welfare office. :)

Glad you find Bush's destruction of the economy and irresponsible spending and horrendous job loss record (worst in 80 years) so amusing :)

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:50 PM

Heard in the grocery store:
A sacker speaking to a clerk, "Do you have to have been in the service to be president?"

Heard at work:
"I don't trust Kerry."

I want to kill myself, but that would be too easy.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 10:51 PM

How did you guys like the "Purple Heart Band aids" at the RNC? I got some on Ebay. I can't wait to wear them when I vote. :)

and I bet our 7000+ troops injured in Iraq find them to be a hoot and a half :)

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:54 PM

Posted by: Catharine at September 10, 2004 10:49 PM

Catharine, are you ever going to show at one of our meetups, we are all dying to meet you...

Were your ears burning???

Posted by: terry wilke at September 10, 2004 10:54 PM

LAL, no links to a story that won't debut until tomorrow. I got it from a *very* reliable source (a journalist). Check out summeroftruth.org, the firefighter in question is supposed to be speaking at one of their events tomorrow.

Posted by: JIK at September 10, 2004 10:55 PM

I NEVER said that Jesus condemned homosexuality. It is in the bible, however. In the Old Testament, it is said that a man is not to lie down with another man.

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at September 10, 2004 10:24 PM
_____________

Ahhhh, yes, gimme some of that old-time religion, right, Rob?

Consider: On her radio show recently, Dr Laura Schlesinger said that, as an observant Orthodox Jew, homosexuality is an abomination according to Leviticus 18:22, and cannot be condoned under any circumstance.

The following response is my open letter to Dr. Laura.

---------
Dear Dr. Laura:

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can.

When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. ... End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Law and how to follow them.

1. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

4. Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2. The passage clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomin

Posted by: dr at September 10, 2004 10:55 PM

terry wilke,
Thanks for your efforts from NYC. Sincerely.
The Anna bootie was the gift that keeps on giving.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 10:56 PM

catharine 6 21.43%

You lil flirt!

Posted by: terry wilke at September 10, 2004 10:56 PM

I NEVER said that Jesus condemned homosexuality. It is in the bible, however. In the Old Testament, it is said that a man is not to lie down with another man.

Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at September 10, 2004 10:24 PM
_____________

(continued)
6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?

7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.19:27. How should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot.

Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? - Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Your adoring fan,

Rob Greenbaum

Posted by: dr at September 10, 2004 10:56 PM

Gee... Terry... dunno... were you talking to W@W by any chance?

Posted by: Catharine at September 10, 2004 10:58 PM

>>How did you guys like the "Purple Heart Band aids" at the RNC? I got some on Ebay. I can't wait to wear them when I vote. :)

this demeans every American who has served. So, what's your excuse for W's missing air national guard time?

BTW-- its clear he's lied about his service record repeatedly. Give me a good reason he should not be impeached.

Also, Explain to me how Bush, who has gone awol and disobeyed direct orders to report, would be more respectable than Kerry, who served honorably?

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 10, 2004 10:59 PM

terry wilke,
Thanks for your efforts from NYC. Sincerely.
The Anna bootie was the gift that keeps on giving.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 10:56 PM

ooop I took it down cause Anna
is mad at me now

Posted by: terry wilke at September 10, 2004 10:59 PM

Hey....numbnuts!
You're an idiot.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Presidential_04/RCP_EC.html

A bit more current!
Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:30 PM

Maybe a couple state polls are more current, but I don't trust your/their poll sources! Why? ahem......

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Posted by: Liberal-at-large at September 10, 2004 11:00 PM

If you don't like Wal-Mart, go to Target! Or go to the supermarket! Or go to the PX!
If you're looking specifically for Kerry voters, go to the welfare office. :)
Posted by: Rob Greenbaum at September 10, 2004 10:45 PM
==============================================

I went to Lowes yesterday, wearing my T-Shirt with the picture of Dumbya that says, "What else can I destroy before they make me leave?" and the cashier fell out laughing and then asked me how the Idiot's going to the U.N. and telling them they're irrelevant was going to win us friends in the fight against terrorists?
p :)

p.s. EXCELLENT shirts available at http://www.southernresistance.com -- All cotton, US made, $17 INCLUDING shipping!!!

My other favorite depicts the GOP elephant with $$$ in place of the *** on the back, and it says, "GOING TO BAT FOR FAT CATS AND BIGOTS EVERY DAY"

Posted by: petemoon at September 10, 2004 11:00 PM

Can anyopne name anything good that Bush has done that's concrete and specific, and not hot air? No "he made my butthole safe for rublicanacy (neocons hate all things democratic, especially democrats, democracy, and America).

Bush promoted and signed in the "Do Not Call" list. That's it. It's the only good thing he did that's real and specific and incontrovertable. No one can contest it, it's a fact he did it. He did a good thing. ONE good thing. One MINOR good thing. Anyone know of anything else?

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 11:00 PM

Gee... Terry... dunno... were you talking to W@W by any chance?

Posted by: Catharine at September 10, 2004 10:58 PM

And Anna and Marcos and Atrios and Sammer and Astuntz and....

Posted by: terry wilke at September 10, 2004 11:02 PM

ooop I took it down cause Anna
is mad at me now
Posted by: terry wilke at September 10, 2004 10:59 PM
--------------------------
Kinda cheeky of her, don't you think?

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 11:02 PM

hey, Greenbaum...you have a lot of questions to answer. Care to enlighten us?

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 10, 2004 11:05 PM

Hi, I'm Rob Q. Psycho, and I wanted to tell the people of Iraq, I'm glad we raped, tortured, and murdered your children. We're taking your oil, and you can't stop us. We rape, torture, and murder because it makes it easier to steal. We're sadists, rapists, child murderers, and common thieves, that's what America stands for. Excuse me, I have to go shit in The Bible now, and wipe my ass with The Constitution.

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 11:06 PM

Posted by: dr at September 10, 2004 10:56 PM
++++++++++++

Good one, dr!
-- (crazy RightWingNuts ... why do they have to justify their hatefulness in the name of Jesus? Can they not simply admit - with honesty - that their hate is a profound part of their very nature and their upbringing, and stop slandering Christianity and the many Christians who reasonably attempt to follow the teachings of Christ?)

Hiya Shelly.

Hiya RW - You really come to blog here b/c of the girls? (Among the lefties, there are far fewer anorexics, IMHO - so you are a smart one!)

Posted by: ilo at September 10, 2004 11:08 PM

My all-time favorite anti-Bush slogan was posted during the NYC protests.
It was a stick-held sign carried by a protester.
It had a black-and-white picture of Ronald Reagan wearing a cowboy hat and gazing into the distance; smiling and looking thoughtful.
Next to that, it had a black-and-white picture of Dubya wearing a cowboy hat and gazing into the distance; smiling and looking thoughtful.
The caption under Reagan said "RON."
The caption under Dubya said "MORON."
I loves a good pun.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 11:08 PM

Anna is so smart and sweet too, you guys wouldn't believe...

Lucky guy that husband of hers!

I hope she wont stay mad at me for to long.

I was just teasing Anna.... I'M SORRY ANNA!

Posted by: terry wilke at September 10, 2004 11:08 PM

Rob Greenbaum, God told me to kill you.

Ok?

Ok!

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 11:08 PM

>>You're an idiot.

Lewis Black called, he wants his catch-phrase back.

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 10, 2004 11:09 PM

ROTFLMAO

Man you guys are on fire tonight!

Posted by: terry wilke at September 10, 2004 11:11 PM

catharine 6 21.43%

You lil flirt!

Posted by: terry wilke at September 10, 2004 10:56 PM

Quel?

Terry.. it seems that you are being the flirt now.. I heard (but never saw) that there was a picture of Anna's rear end and W@W was talking about her "yabbos" (charming) rather inappropriately. You guys are being baaaaaaad. Can you really blame Anna for being mad.
So...... I should wanna meet up with you because?

I am teasing you (mostly)... it seems that you enjoyed your time in NYC! Glad to hear it.

Posted by: Catharine at September 10, 2004 11:12 PM

Anna,
terry wilke is a single, male, sexist pig who knows good bootie when he sees it.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 11:12 PM

Gee...Mr. Greenbaum seems so quiet!

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 10, 2004 11:13 PM

Proving that a picture is, in fact, worth only 87 words, since 2004!!!

p :)

Posted by: petemoon at September 10, 2004 11:13 PM

I am teasing you (mostly)... it seems that you enjoyed your time in NYC! Glad to hear it.

Posted by: Catharine at September 10, 2004 11:12 PM

Anna,
terry wilke is a single, male, sexist pig who knows good bootie when he sees it.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 11:12 PM

Ouch!

That hurts...what'd I do?

Posted by: terry wilke at September 10, 2004 11:14 PM

"terry wilke is a single, male, sexist pig who knows good bootie when he sees it."

Maybe if Terry reposted the picture with the caption "Anna's gorgeous red hair"

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 11:14 PM

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--------------------
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Posted by: nmark at September 10, 2004 11:14 PM

what'd I do?
Posted by: terry wilke at September 10, 2004 11:14 PM
===========================================

Cast a sidelong glance?

p :)

Posted by: petemoon at September 10, 2004 11:15 PM

Petemoon,
You fuckwad. Describing a pictorial experience is like explaining an orgasm: Before you are done you are done.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 11:17 PM

~~~I'm trying to figure out if there is some way I could move there.~~~

Ter: Now how in the hell are you gonna do that when you going to be elected to your County Board!

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at September 10, 2004 11:17 PM

>>what'd I do?

lewd and lascivious leering bothers women.

I don't understand why, but women are constantly pointing that out to me...

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 10, 2004 11:18 PM

Maybe if Terry reposted the picture with the caption "Anna's gorgeous red hair"
Posted by: at September 10, 2004 11:14 PM
-------------------------
This scored a belly laugh. Nice work.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 11:19 PM

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 10:46 PM

not really sure which distinction is more dubious, to have the recognition that comes with a chlamydia infection or to become a reigning member of the "punditocracy"

(caution: shakespearian double-entendre alert)

alas, do i fail upwards or downwards?

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 11:19 PM

Petemoon,
You fuckwad.
Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 11:17 PM
=============================================

Jane, you ignorant slut!!!

I saw that sign in the parade, and loved it, and described it verbally to a number of associates. Whether the attempt to put it in writing was valiant or foolhardy is not my call.

SMOOCH!!! ;)

p :)

Posted by: petemoon at September 10, 2004 11:20 PM

BIBLE SAYS TO BUTTFUCK BABIES!
WE DID IT FOR JESUS, WE DID IT FOR JESUS!
NO "IF" FROM BUSH, NO WIMPY "MAYBE"
WE DID IT FOR JESUS, WE DID IT FOR JESUS!

LET THE SAND NIGS THRASH AND SPUTTER
FILL THE BASTARDS FULLA HOLES
WHILE WE LAUGH AT THE DAISY CUTTERS
'CAUSE DESERT MONKEYS GOT NO SOULS!

SING, SWEET MACHINE GUN, IN A SWEEP
WHAT MORE COULD A CHRISTIAN WANT?
STREETS RUN RED, I WADE KNEE DEEP
BLOOD OF CHILDREN, MY BAPTISMAL FONT!

I GOT AN EXPRESS PASS TO HEAVEN
I GET IN EXTRA QUICK
THE IRAQI BOY WAS MAYBE SEVEN
AND HIS SHIT'S STILL WET ON MY DICK

THE BIBLE SAYS TO MURDER THEIR YOUNG,
WE DO IT FOR JESUS, WE DO IT FOR JESUS
JESUS HATES ALL SEMITES! THEY'RE SCUM!
WE DO IT FOR JESUS, WE DO IT FOR JESUS!

Posted by: JESUS WILL KILL YOU WHERE YOU STAND at September 10, 2004 11:21 PM

Addendum to my previous post:
terry wilke, you might have captioned the photo with---"In the background you can see Anna's gorgeous hair, partially obscured by the foreground."

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 11:21 PM

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 11:08 PM

Gotta send this out in email... Crank Bait says, " ."

Posted by: pablo at September 10, 2004 11:21 PM

IT WAS PAYBACK!

JEEZ!

I'M SORRY ANNA!

Anyway, if anyone has anything at all negative to say about Anna you’re going to have me to deal with and I'll bet the rest of the blogers feel the same way.
She was a sweetheart the whole time in NYC and I really felt like I made a new friend… until I did the stupid and now she’s mad at me…. :-(

Posted by: terry wilke at September 10, 2004 11:22 PM

I want to kill myself, but that would be too easy.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 10:51 PM

and besides, how would you ever finish that motivational book you've been laboring away at for the last six years?

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 11:22 PM

Posted by: JESUS WILL KILL YOU WHERE YOU STAND
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Please do go away quickly.

Posted by: ilo at September 10, 2004 11:23 PM

alas, do i fail upwards or downwards?
Posted by: at September 10, 2004 11:19 PM
===============================================

I'm Vahklempt!

Please -- talk amongst yourselves -- I'll give you a topic -- Iambic Pentameter is neither Iambic, nor Pentameter.

DISCUSS!!!

p :)

Posted by: petemoon at September 10, 2004 11:23 PM

National 2004 Presidential Race Polls

Bush/Cheney vs Kerry/Edwards

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/bush_vs_kerry_hth.html

Posted by: greenpagan at July 23, 2004 10:20 PM

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 11:24 PM

http://www.summeroftruth.org/

Nice site & thx, JIK!

Anyone in the NYC metro area should check this out.....great info, organizational & meetup site!

I'll check again tommorrow for the "black box" story, Icey.

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at September 10, 2004 11:25 PM

She was a sweetheart the whole time in NYC and I really felt like I made a new friend… until I did the stupid and now she’s mad at me…. :-(

Posted by: terry wilke at September 10, 2004 11:22 PM

well... you do have only yourself to blame.. but did you learn something? Like ... how not to impress a woman?

Posted by: Catharine at September 10, 2004 11:26 PM

Petemoon:

verklempt
not "vahklempt"

Posted by: ilo at September 10, 2004 11:27 PM

Ter: Now how in the hell are you gonna do that when you going to be elected to your County Board!

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at September 10, 2004 11:17 PM

I'm going to have the same problem when I land one of them there beauty New York liberals....
Hmmmm….. commute?

Posted by: terry wilke at September 10, 2004 11:27 PM

verklempt
not "vahklempt"
Posted by: ilo at September 10, 2004 11:27 PM
============================================

Wanna make a sandwich with me and Cranky?

p :)

Posted by: petemoon at September 10, 2004 11:28 PM

Catharine,
At first she was upset. Now, she is flattered.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 11:29 PM

"lewd and lascivious leering bothers women. "

it embaresses me that you're all so fucking DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB!

-sigh-

ok, LOOK, dumbass(es)

WHEN you leer, do NOT slit your eyes and grin with teeth! OPEN your eyes WIDE, look amazed and suprised, and instead of panting, SIGH... not like you're in pain, but WHISTFULLY. And put a hand on your chest. Not like both hands clasped, make it look like a natural and unrehearsed motion, as if you're not aware of it.

GOT IT?

and use the reverse smile, if you know how. Don't grin like a hungry predator.

I bet you almost never get laid, huh.

above all, BE CAREFUL. If you begin to act as if you regard the beauty of women as something of actual merit beyond sex appeal, you can start believing it, and that might make you a better person.... people will notice, and people HATE when others have abilities and powers beyond their own.

YOU ARE VERY WELCOME FOR MY WONDERFUL ADVICE THAT I AM GIVING TO YOU JUST NOW.

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 11:30 PM

http://www.anycities.com/lydiaolydia/

Chlamydia the Tatooed Lady

My life was wrapped around the circus.
Her name was Chlamydia .
I met her at the world's fair in 1900,
marked down from 1940.

Ah, Chlamydia .
She was the most glorious creature
Under the su-un.
Guiess. DuBarry. Garbo.
Rolled into one.

Oooooooh
Chlamydia Chlamydia , say have you met Chlamydia ,
Chlamydia , the Tatooed Lady.
She has eyes that folks adore so,
And a torso even more so.

Chlamydia, chlamydia , that encyclopidia,
Oh Chlamydia the Queen of Tatoo.
On her back is the Battle of Waterloo.
Beside it the wreck of the Hesperus, too.
And proudly above waves the Red, White, and Blue,
You can learn a lot from Chlamydia .

La la la, la la la, la la la, la la la

When her robe is unfurled, she will show you the world,
If you step up and tell her where.
For a dime you can see Kankakee or Paris,
Or Washington crossing the Delaware.

La la la, la la la, la la la, la la la

Chlamydia oh chlamydia , say have you met Chlamydia ,
Chlamydia the Tatooed Lady
When her muscles start relaxin',
Up the hill comes Andrew Jackson

Chlamydia ,Chlamydia , that encyclopidia,
oh Chlamydia the queen of them all!
For two bits she will do a mazurka in jazz,
With a view of Niagara that nobody has.
And on a clear day you can see Alcatraz.
You can learn a lot from Chlamydia .

La la la, la la la, la la la, la la la

Come along and see Buff'lo Bill with his lasso.
Just a little classic by Mendel Picasso.
Here is Captain Spaulding exploring the Amazon.
Here's Godiva but with her pajamas on.

La la la, la la la, la la la, la la la

Here is Grover Whalen unveilin' the Trilon.
Over on the West Coast we have Treaure Island.
Here's Najinsky a-doin' the rhumba.
Here's her social security numba.

{whistles}La la la, la la la, la la la, la la la

Chlamydia , oh Chlamydia that encyclopidia,
Chlamydia t

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 10, 2004 11:30 PM

catharine 6 21.43%

You lil flirt!

Posted by: terry wilke at September 10, 2004 10:56 PM

SO... just so I am clear... please explain the above to me...

Posted by: Catharine at September 10, 2004 11:30 PM

well... you do have only yourself to blame.. but did you learn something? Like ... how not to impress a woman?

Posted by: Catharine at September 10, 2004 11:26 PM

Actually I learned that a long time ago, but I honestly thought I was being teasy funny, that is why you should leave the comedy to the professionals I guess.
By the way, when did you get so mean?

Posted by: terry wilke at September 10, 2004 11:31 PM

YOU ARE VERY WELCOME FOR MY WONDERFUL ADVICE THAT I AM GIVING TO YOU JUST NOW.
Posted by: at September 10, 2004 11:30 PM
=============================================

I just jump up and down, scratching my underarms and screeching like a chimp. Works every time!!!

p :)

Posted by: petemoon at September 10, 2004 11:32 PM

how could you miss me?
all the funny no-nic ones are mine
well, back to the old eraserboard
Posted by: at September 10, 2004 10:38 PM

actually i never miss a good no-nic joke...see i didn't miss you...just didn't know what to call you i guess...and yes, i'm going on record again one who does not give a shiteth who wears what name or no name...i'm a no nic lovin son of a b...

***

I want to kill myself, but that would be too easy.
Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 10:51 PM

lmao!

and rusty and rufus!!!! aaaaaawwwwwww...does not suffice! orange kitties are cool...how old are they? and are they related?

Posted by: shell at September 10, 2004 11:33 PM

I hope Anna isn't really mad at Terry. I think the butt shot was cute, and it did show off her gorgeous head of hair to good advantage. It wasn't evil, just very naughty! I think Terry is a sweetie too, just a bit impetuous.

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 11:33 PM

Posted by: dr at September 10, 2004 10:55 PM

President David "Bartlet" Richey! :)

I've used some of "Josiah's" riff on a local "thumper" or two.
No offense to anyone, but they usually start stuttering. Works every time!

Thanks for a few more to add to the list. :)

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at September 10, 2004 11:33 PM

http://www.anycities.com/lydiaolydia/

Chlamydia the Tatooed Lady --
(con't)

La la la, la la la, la la la, la la la

Come along and see Buff'lo Bill with his lasso.
Just a little classic by Mendel Picasso.
Here is Captain Spaulding exploring the Amazon.
Here's Godiva but with her pajamas on.

La la la, la la la, la la la, la la la

Here is Grover Whalen unveilin' the Trilon.
Over on the West Coast we have Treaure Island.
Here's Najinsky a-doin' the rhumba.
Here's her social security numba.

{whistles}La la la, la la la, la la la, la la la

Chlamydia , oh Chlamydia that encyclopidia,
Chlamydia the champ of them all.
She once swept an Admiral clear off his feet.
The ships on her hips made his heart skip a beat.
And now the old boy's in command of the fleet,
For he went and married Chlamydia .

I said Chlamydia
{He said Chlamydia }
They said said Chlamydia
{We said Chlamydia }
La La!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

adapted from "Lydia the Tatooed Lady"
From the movie "At the Circus"
The very song that stopped the Stock Market in the 1950's

check out the bouncing groucho .gif on this site.

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 10, 2004 11:34 PM

Wanna make a sandwich with me and Cranky?

p :)

Posted by: petemoon
===================
I'm sorry? Is this a double-entendre of some sort?

Posted by: ilo at September 10, 2004 11:35 PM

By the way, when did you get so mean?

Posted by: terry wilke at September 10, 2004 11:31 PM

tee hee!

Posted by: Catharine at September 10, 2004 11:35 PM

Petemoon,
Misspell one teeny-weeny little obscure mostly foreign word and they pounce on you like a pack of hyenas.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 11:36 PM

I just jump up and down, scratching my underarms and screeching like a chimp. Works every time!!!
Posted by: petemoon at September 10, 2004 11:32 PM
==============================================

Bearing in mind, I do have a somewhat different target audience.

p :)

Oh, lord -- responding to my own jokes. Maybe a sign that it's time to hang up my skates?

Posted by: petemoon at September 10, 2004 11:36 PM

catharine 6 21.43%

6 people voted for you

that's 21.43% of the total votes

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MRRpics/surveys?id=703973

And this was not my idea and so does not in any way represent misogyny on my part... just want that to be clear lest I get my stupid self into hot water again

Posted by: terry wilke at September 10, 2004 11:37 PM

I'm sorry? Is this a double-entendre of some sort?
Posted by: ilo at September 10, 2004 11:35 PM
=============================================
Crank made a reference in Hour Three to being "squeezed by grammarians."

p :)

Posted by: petemoon at September 10, 2004 11:38 PM

Psst! Catharine:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MRRpics/surveys?id=703973

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 11:39 PM

Who knew Americans still liked losers and failures like George Bush. While the rest of the world hates Bush he is still tied more or less with Kerry in the polls.
Why do Americans like such losers like Bush who couldn't get a job without his family and friends' connections. Sad to see a once mighty and repsected nation being led by a less than literate pansy daddy's boy who fails at everything his hand touches.

Americans are losers themselves to vote for this sad sack of a loser in George Bush.

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 11:41 PM

ok, LOOK, dumbass(es)

GOT IT?

and use the reverse smile, if you know how. Don't grin like a hungry predator.

I bet you almost never get laid, huh.

YOU ARE VERY WELCOME FOR MY WONDERFUL ADVICE THAT I AM GIVING TO YOU JUST NOW.

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 11:30 PM

Yes!

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 11:41 PM

>>and rusty and rufus!!!! aaaaaawwwwwww...does not suffice! orange kitties are cool...how old are they? and are they related?

they are 2 1/2 now. they are brothers.

les frères de chat = the cat brothers

so a chat room is really a french cat room and a cat-house is an english chat-house. weird huh?

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 10, 2004 11:41 PM

And this was not my idea and so does not in any way represent misogyny on my part... just want that to be clear lest I get my stupid self into hot water again

Posted by: terry wilke at September 10, 2004 11:37 PM

Poor Terry! I am actually laughing... don't worry... but I thought that I might not like what that was about... Terry ... Terry ... Terry ...

Poor Terry! Give him some more advice Crank Bait! It's really helpful. (not)

Posted by: Catharine at September 10, 2004 11:42 PM

chubby bubba,
I have considered the "chlamydia" vs "Lydia" transposition in Groucho's song for years.
I never had an opportunity to use it to full effect.
Congratulations.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 11:42 PM

Ok ok ok - petemoon, I need such explanation, because - I am consistently lost in the blog.

... meanwhile:

I have now seen the 'flirt survey' and I am surprised because Shelly is not on the list, and Shelly has a very nice flirtatious manner - obvious to all; and also, all of the boys like ilo - and if you haven't noticed, yeah, like I believe you?

Ok - that is better for me. Still waters run deep; and the boys know this. :)

Posted by: ilo at September 10, 2004 11:44 PM

>>Maybe a sign that it's time to hang up my skates

If that's what you all you have to hang up, yes. ;-)
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

I bet you almost never get laid, huh.

Wha'dya mean "almost?"

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 10, 2004 11:45 PM

Posted by: dr at September 10, 2004 10:55 PM

President David "Bartlet" Richey! :)

I've used some of "Josiah's" riff on a local "thumper" or two.

No offense to anyone, but they usually start stuttering. Works every time!

Thanks for a few more to add to the list. :)

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at September 10, 2004 11:33 PM
_____________

good God, man, get a grip, and fast

in sooth, you've become nearly as incomprehensible as I

p.s. besides Bambi's lil' pink-nosed Sancho Panza, the only "thumper" I am aware of is an old inside-family joke for a throbbing erection, so I am reasonably confident that I do not take your meaning, if you take my meaning

but then, i am wrong often, so who knows?

in any event, i am pleased you've found a general sense of satisfaction, take it all around

Posted by: dr at September 10, 2004 11:45 PM

terry wilke,
When a bright and articulate and (apparently) attractive lady shoots the moon, there is nothing left to do but bay. At.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 11:45 PM

bible "thumper"

Posted by: Nobody at September 10, 2004 11:46 PM

So ... I have a confession to make... I actually met W@W and he was a gentleman enough not to dish ... (although I thought that he might have said something to you when he met you at the Tank).

[If you are reading this W@W... I apologize if I have talked out of turn.]

Posted by: Catharine at September 10, 2004 11:49 PM

bible "thumper"
Posted by: Nobody at September 10, 2004 11:46 PM
--------------------------
Ties in nicely with Easter.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 11:49 PM

Holy Crap, I found out today what the deal is with the republicans. They are afraid. They don't want to believe that anything happening with Bush is real because if it is they have to wake up to alot of other realities they have been avoiding. It's easier to believe the lie than it is to live the truth.

Posted by: aka MAT at September 10, 2004 11:50 PM

>> never had an opportunity to use it to full effect.
Congratulations.

I think most of the english speaking world has thought of that one. I'm just the fella with enough pluck and determination to endeavore googling the lyrics and use the 'replac'e feature of word.

In other words, aw shucks, ma'am, I ain't no hero ;-)

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 10, 2004 11:50 PM

Self-flagellation is so much easier when you get help

Posted by: terry wilke at September 10, 2004 11:51 PM

I'm late, as usual, but I say Patrioterer is Iceknife.

Posted by: cathy in seattle at September 10, 2004 11:51 PM

Petemoon,
Misspell one teeny-weeny little obscure mostly foreign word and they pounce on you like a pack of hyenas.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 11:36 PM

__________

pete was on very secure phonetical ground, methinks, which is the flag i reckon he was a-stakin'

saur-krauts, yiddish and New and Old Englanders are all more or less allergic to the "r" that don't kick things off

"r"espect but hAHbah (harbor)

Posted by: dr at September 10, 2004 11:51 PM

Americans are losers themselves to vote for this sad sack of a loser in George Bush.

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 11:52 PM

>>Self-flagellation is so much easier when you get help

so is self-fellatio!

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 10, 2004 11:53 PM

Maybe we need a "What other name do you think Patrioterer uses?" poll.
It must include "None of the above."

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 11:53 PM

but, you don't hear ME complaining about it...

no, wait. That doesn't sound quite right...

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 10, 2004 11:54 PM

It's easier to believe the lie than it is to live the truth.

Posted by: aka MAT
==================
I think this is right, Miss Anne. Moreover, I think people are afraid of the truth today, because it is so horrific. A blue dress, an illicit (albeit consensual) romance? All can imagine betrayal by the one we love: so it is easy to attach our abhorence to such behavior.

But - to swallow up the constitution, to destroy our democracy, to take measures that bring our whole world closer to destruction? To believe such things are taking place is to acknowledge how sick we have allowed this nation to become. The truth is so terrifying, many prefer to hide behind the sweetness of lies.

Posted by: ilo at September 10, 2004 11:54 PM

So ... I have a confession to make... I actually met W@W and he was a gentleman enough not to dish ... (although I thought that he might have said something to you when he met you at the Tank).

[If you are reading this W@W... I apologize if I have talked out of turn.]

Posted by: Catharine at September 10, 2004 11:49 PM

gack! I'm offended, he did not tell me

also what are the rest of us choped liver?

you're a couple of snots

Posted by: terry wilke at September 10, 2004 11:54 PM

I thought of that too, but then I wondered if we did it would it take the mystery away from Patrioterer?

Posted by: cathy in seattle at September 10, 2004 11:55 PM

>>to swallow up the constitution,

so, you're saying the neo-con would rather swallow up the constitution than Bill Clinton's oyster sauce?

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 10, 2004 11:56 PM

but, you don't hear ME complaining about it...

no, wait. That doesn't STILL sound quite right...

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 10, 2004 11:57 PM

you're a couple of snots

Hmmm, how's that Dale Carnegie course working out?

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 11:59 PM

Posted by: aka MAT at September 10, 2004 11:50 PM

Yeppers MAT. All the trolls too... it's classic. They will never allow themselves to realize that they are wrong.. because if they did they would have to change and they don't wnat to .. too difficult. Kind of like the linguist and psychologist were talking about... also read a good piece by Gary Zukav in reference to addiction about not admitting you have a problem.. because once you do ... you have no choice but to change.

Posted by: Catharine at September 10, 2004 11:59 PM

(...)Patrioterer

can't be tpp bright to drop the 3rd e from the name.

Longshot -- could be SEDER jerking our chains? I seriously doubt it, but he did coin the phrase.

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 10, 2004 11:59 PM

Sep. 9, 2004. 01:00 AM

The surreal world of Bush
HAROON SIDDIQUI

Politicians don't always deliver what they promise. But George W. Bush is in a league all his own. He says one thing, does another and often manages the exact opposite of what he intends.

While politicians play up what suits them and downplay what doesn't, he is unique in shutting out reality altogether. He won't see what he doesn't want to see, even if others do.

Also, while politicians learn on the job and go from the stupid to the sensible, he seems to travel in the opposite direction.

He said post-9/11 that he was going to isolate terrorists but ended up isolating America.

He attacked Afghanistan to crush Al Qaeda but spawned its branches or, worse, copycat outfits all over the world.

He invaded Iraq to capture non-existent weapons of mass destruction, while his other two axis of evil nations, North Korea and Iran, were the ones developing nuclear weapons.

He talked tough on Iran but it was North Korea that got busy and made two nuclear bombs.

He saw his war on Iraq as a warning to other states not to develop lethal weapons but finds his credibility so eroded he can't convince others about the seriousness of Iran's nuclear intentions.
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_PrintFriendly&c=Article&cid=1094681410522&call_pageid=968256290204

Posted by: tonid at September 10, 2004 01:23 PM

Posted by: at September 10, 2004 11:59 PM

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 10, 2004 11:56 PM
=========
The nearly-deaf dry cleaner: Come again?
Monica: No, no; it's Hollandaise sauce.

Posted by: ilo at September 10, 2004 11:59 PM

I thought of that too, but then I wondered if we did it would it take the mystery away from Patrioterer?

I dunno. How would a poll take away the mystery? Does us guessing at it on the threads occasionally do that?

Posted by: at September 11, 2004 12:01 AM

>>Hollandaise sauce.

LOL!!!

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 11, 2004 12:01 AM

gack! I'm offended, he did not tell me

also what are the rest of us choped liver?

you're a couple of snots

Posted by: terry wilke at September 10, 2004 11:54 PM

Yes.. I know... I'm mean, a flirt, and a snot! Don't you feel better?

Posted by: Catharine at September 11, 2004 12:02 AM

ilo,
Are you certain that you are not a guy?

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 11, 2004 12:04 AM

Does anyone know who the people are in this pic?
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/majorityreportpixoverspill/vwp?.dir=/RNC+Protest&.dnm=107_0723_1.jpg&.src=gr&.done=http%3a//photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/majorityreportpixoverspill/vwp%3f.dir=/RNC%2bProtest%26.dnm=The%2bTank---4.jpg%26.src=gr

or this one?
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/majorityreportpixoverspill/vwp?.dir=/RNC+Protest&.dnm=107_0757_1.jpg&.src=gr&.done=http%3a//photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/majorityreportpixoverspill/vwp%3f.dir=/RNC%2bProtest%26.dnm=Councilman.jpg%26.src=gr

Posted by: cathy in seattle at September 11, 2004 12:05 AM

http://net-burst.net/porn/index.htm

Pleasure Secrets
Soft porn: a celebration of a God-given gift?

Have conservative Christians typically got it wrong?

A thought-provoking re-evaluation of an often misunderstood subject

Stripping himself of self-righteousness, blind traditionalism, legalism and pressure to conform, a conservative Bible believer risks controversy as he seeks a fresh look at God’s attitude to erotica.

Sex . . . pleasure . . . beauty . . . the human body. They were all created by the God of the Bible, who pronounced everything he made to be very good. We came into this world naked. Adam and Eve, in the perfection of their purity frolicked nude in Eden. What Bible-believer, focusing solely on the facts, could object to erotic pics and videos of lovemaking? Isn’t it the innocent enjoyment of a God-given gift?

Posted by: It's Not You It's Me at September 11, 2004 12:05 AM

snots, Hollandaise sauce, oyster sauce...what is it with al the semi-viscous liquids today?

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 11, 2004 12:05 AM

Us guessing at who patrioterer is just builds the legend...as if the young fellow needs any encouragement...

Posted by: Nobody at September 11, 2004 12:05 AM

Catharine,
A phlegm femme?

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 11, 2004 12:06 AM

Brains, Beauty, Buttocks

Posted by: at September 11, 2004 12:06 AM

BTW, Terry... it was a long time ago .... not during the RNC. I don't want to get W@W in trouble. I am only trying to trash my own reputation! (Not that it can get any lower... apparently)

Posted by: Catharine at September 11, 2004 12:07 AM

Yes.. I know... I'm mean, a flirt, and a snot! Don't you feel better?

Posted by: Catharine at September 11, 2004 12:02 AM

No, I feel worse now, you've ruined what was otherwise an extraordinary experience, and I hope you’re happy! ;-)

Posted by: terry wilke at September 11, 2004 12:07 AM

change the word to "flurt" and it takes on a whole new feel.

and, it was my wonderful advice, in case you need to know who to grouse at.

I'm making Oblio Chicken right now.

Insert two fingers under the skin of a chicken thigh; spread fingers, maing a pocket under the skin, but keep the entry small. Stuff with shredded coconut. Rub half a scored clove of garlic into each piece; squeeze a quarter lime over each piece, then rub with a pinch of cayenne pepper, and sprinkle on a little black pepper. Flip chicken, and sprinkle bottom of each piece with a little garlic powder and cayenne, and more lime juice. Roast for about 50 minutes at 350, until skin is crispy. Spuds cut to 1 inch rounds in the bottom of the pan also turn out nicely.

Posted by: at September 11, 2004 12:07 AM

Join us October 6th to 9th to confront the emergency that the corporate media has created in this country. By working together we can reinvent the media!

http://www.mediaemergenc.org/

Posted by: aka MAT at September 11, 2004 12:07 AM

True American Patriot.

Ellsberg Urges Insiders to Leak Iraq Info

Thursday September 9, 2004 9:01 PM

By KATA KERTESZ

Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - Daniel Ellsberg, the former Defense Department official who leaked the Pentagon Papers during the Vietnam war, is urging government insiders to provide similar classified documents about the invasion of Iraq.

Joined by other whistle-blowers and former government employees, Ellsberg said at a news conference Thursday that claims of government deception and lies have ``little credibility'' unless supported by documentary evidence, which often is available only in classified materials.

In a memo to current government employees, Ellsberg and other former government officials said federal insiders owe a ``higher allegiance'' to the Constitution, the public and American soldiers in Iraq than to their government bosses.

``A hundred forty-thousand Americans are risking their lives every day in Iraq for dubious purpose,'' the memo said. ``Our country has urgent need of comparable moral courage from its public officials. Truth-telling is a patriotic and effective way to serve the nation. The time for speaking out is now.''
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4484619,00.html

Posted by: tonid at September 10, 2004 08:19 PM

Posted by: at September 11, 2004 12:07 AM

Seder coined the phrase Patrioterer?
I don't think it's Seder, I think it's Iceknife. I don't know why, just a gut feeling.

Posted by: cathy in seattle at September 11, 2004 12:08 AM

The man is comedian Lewis Black, who called earlier asking that his catch-phrase "you're an idiot" be returned.

Who the lady is I do not know.

I'm tempted to make a caty-remark, but she is probably a blogger here & I don't want to offend. Besides it'd be the pot calling the kettle black.

Lewis Black? no. he's far too talented. way out of my league.

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 11, 2004 12:09 AM

I was worried until you added the lime juice...

Posted by: Nobody at September 11, 2004 12:09 AM

is this "Patrioterer" real? or is it janeane making fun of a typical bush luffin' cracker?

either way... thats some funny shit.

Posted by: soopajdelux at May 25, 2004 07:50 PM

Posted by: Blog Archives at September 11, 2004 12:10 AM

Another caption option:
The cuisine in the Tank was superb.
Anna served buns.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 11, 2004 12:10 AM

now, the second pick, I can tell with absolute certainty, are a couple of dorks. ;-)

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 11, 2004 12:10 AM

bible "thumper"
Posted by: Nobody at September 10, 2004 11:46 PM
--------------------------
Ties in nicely with Easter.
Posted by: Crank Bait at September 10, 2004 11:49 PM
=========================================

Am I missing something here? Did the Romans use Bibles to drive the nails through the hands?

Sorry -- I'm not really up on my mythology.

p :)

Posted by: petemoon at September 11, 2004 12:10 AM

Bubba, did you take the pics?

Posted by: cathy in seattle at September 11, 2004 12:11 AM

old school baptist preachers...the hell fire and brimstone type would repeatedly rap the bible...slam the bible or generally make a thump with it to get he adrenaline going in the audience during their sermons...rants...tirades...etc

Posted by: Nobody at September 11, 2004 12:12 AM

Cathy they are:

Anna (the sweety)

Lewis Black (the commedian)

Kyle (the bloger)

And some other bloger who's name I forget.... because I'm stupid

Posted by: terry wilke at September 11, 2004 12:13 AM

>>Am I missing something here? Did the Romans use Bibles to drive the nails through the hands?
Sorry -- I'm not really up on my mythology.
p :)<,

Yes they did, Petey, and you would have known that if you'd ever gone to Sunday School in my neighborhood.

Posted by: cathy in seattle at September 11, 2004 12:13 AM

pete was on very secure phonetical ground, methinks, which is the flag i reckon he was a-stakin'
saur-krauts, yiddish and New and Old Englanders are all more or less allergic to the "r" that don't kick things off
"r"espect but hAHbah (harbor)
Posted by: dr at September 10, 2004 11:51 PM
================================================

Well, thank ya there, dr, for taking up my part (particularly in light of any previous unpleasntness between us), but, in fact, in most cases, I consult my Yiddish Lexicon before posting. This time, I was in a hurry, and left myself open to correction!

p :)

Posted by: petemoon at September 11, 2004 12:14 AM

Another caption option:
The cuisine in the Tank was superb.
Anna served buns.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 11, 2004 12:10 AM

Oh I don't think that's going to help me out

Posted by: terry wilke at September 11, 2004 12:15 AM

I think the romans used their penis's to drive in the nails

Posted by: aka MAT at September 11, 2004 12:15 AM

Terry, you are far from stupid, AND you are one of the best guys on the blog.

Posted by: cathy in seattle at September 11, 2004 12:15 AM

so is self-fellatio!
Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 10, 2004 11:53 PM
==============================================

Could I get ya to push on my shoulders?

p :)

Posted by: petemoon at September 11, 2004 12:15 AM

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 11, 2004 12:04
+++++++++++++++++++
If you see me, you would not have this question.
BTW> why do you ask? I know sometimes I am argumentative, and I don't let others boss me around, maybe thes qualities you find unfitting for a girl? Please explain to me?

Posted by: ilo at September 11, 2004 12:16 AM

I don't think it's Seder, I think it's Iceknife. I don't know why, just a gut feeling.

Posted by: cathy in seattle at September 11, 2004 12:08 AM

Hmm... I vote with Cathy. Sounds right to me.

Also, Cathy, I couldn't get into those pics.. got an error... "Group Error"

Posted by: Catharine at September 11, 2004 12:16 AM

at auctions they use a similiar technique with guys walking around beating sticks with rubber hoses,,,to a beat,,,

It disrupts logically thinking...adrenaline makes you more likely to jump to rash judgments...

early mind control technique

Posted by: Nobody at September 11, 2004 12:16 AM

>>Did the Romans use Bibles to drive the nails through the hands?

actually they would have gone through the wrists. The palm is actuall too weak and the body's weight woud pull the hands right out from under the nail.

Trust me. It took alot of practice to learn that one.

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

no, I didn't take those pictures. if I did they'd be FUCKING GREAT!!!

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 11, 2004 12:16 AM

Nobody,
Not to mention a Calvinist or two. Though, to some, this would be redundant.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 11, 2004 12:17 AM

try again, I just got in with no problem. You are signed up for both yahoo groups, right?

Posted by: cathy in seattle at September 11, 2004 12:17 AM

C-Sea, if I wuz Big P, or had half his talent, I'd have a decent gig.

Besides, I may be crazy, but I ain't THAT crazy.

But it was sweet of you to think of me.

Posted by: JIK at September 11, 2004 12:17 AM

. . . Bill Clinton's oyster sauce?
Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 10, 2004 11:56 PM
=============================================

Oooohh!!!!!! My knees are going weak!!!!

p :)

Posted by: petemoon at September 11, 2004 12:17 AM

ry again, I just got in with no problem. You are signed up for both yahoo groups, right?

whoops that was addressed to Catharine.

Posted by: cathy in seattle at September 11, 2004 12:18 AM

Kind of like the linguist and psychologist were talking about...
Posted by: Catharine at September 10, 2004 11:59 PM
==========================================

And . . . there's nothing like a cunning linguist!!!!!

p :)

Posted by: petemoon at September 11, 2004 12:19 AM

Terry, you are far from stupid, AND you are one of the best guys on the blog.

Posted by: cathy in seattle at September 11, 2004 12:15 AM

Could you talk to Catharine for me?

Posted by: terry wilke at September 11, 2004 12:19 AM

hey folks - sorry to breeak up the party, but i need to turn off the blog comments for a while.

i have to do some resource-intensive work on the backend, so i need to minimise resources being used.

sorry for the short notice. i'll give ya a few minutes to wrap it up for now, and comments will be disabled for at least two hours.

Posted by: annatopia at September 11, 2004 12:20 AM

clarification and refinement are always appreciated (unless it's spelling or grammar) cranky thanks...trying to eat stew...the food of the gods....

Posted by: Nobody at September 11, 2004 12:20 AM

John, I don't believe you. You're him, alright. Why else would my intuition scream it's you? You are every bit as talented, I've read your posts, but if that's how you want to play it, fine. I won't say it out loud again.

Posted by: cathy in seattle at September 11, 2004 12:21 AM

funny satire on swift boat liars.

http://s87840450.onlinehome.us/gcftt/ fuuny parody of kerry swift boat liars

Posted by: at September 11, 2004 12:22 AM

No...JIK you're much crazier than all that

Posted by: Nobody at September 11, 2004 12:23 AM

>>Could I get ya to push on my shoulders?

Some things a man has to do for himself. that's why the call it "self-fellatio."

>>Bill Clinton's oyster sauce?

Do you think we should market it?

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 11, 2004 12:23 AM

Catharine, Terry's a GREAT guy once you learn to ignore him talking about Cans and such...

There, Terry, How's that?

Posted by: cathy in seattle at September 11, 2004 12:23 AM

Cathy they are:
Anna (the sweety)
Lewis Black (the commedian)
Kyle (the bloger)
And some other bloger who's name I forget.... because I'm stupid
Posted by: terry wilke at September 11, 2004 12:13 AM
==============================================

How come I get an "Error: Group Check" when I click on C-Sea's links?

p :(

Posted by: petemoon at September 11, 2004 12:23 AM

Terry! I do not think you are stupid... stop this nonsense.

Actually.. I am stupid... I am NOT signed up for both groups... what is the other group?

Posted by: Catharine at September 11, 2004 12:23 AM

CrankBait -
My name is Ilona, which means the beautiful light, but my friends call me Ilo. You can also call me Ilo; but you are intentionally insulting me now?

Posted by: ilo at September 11, 2004 12:23 AM

Thanks for the warning, Anna!

Posted by: cathy in seattle at September 11, 2004 12:24 AM

hey anna!
ooo! blog withdrawl! i feel that shakes commin on already....

see you in two at least bloggerz...

TTFN

Posted by: shell at September 11, 2004 12:25 AM

Lyrics to "Happy Trails" by Dale Evans Rogers
Happy trails to you, until we meet again.
Happy trails to you, keep smilin' until then.
Who cares about the clouds when we're together?
Just sing a song and bring the sunny weather.
Happy trails to you, 'till we meet again.

Some trails are happy ones,
Others are blue.
It's the way you ride the trail that counts,
Here's a happy one for you.

Happy trails to you, until we meet again.
Happy trails to you, keep smilin' until then.
Who cares about the clouds when we're together?
Just sing a song and bring the sunny weather.

Happy trails to you, 'till we meet again.

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 11, 2004 12:25 AM

"thumper"

hey, pointman

1) DR made reference to using the old testament for some pretty stupid shit...by quoting it.

2) I (lamely) attempted to snark DR by referring to an episode of "The West Wing" where Pres. Josiah Bartlet used some of the same riffs of the old testament in dealing with a repuke correspondent.

3) I stated I used some of the same riffs on a some [bible] "thumpers" in my locale noting that they usually confuse said thumpers; much to glee & delight!

4) DR didn't "get" my post and (mercifully) laughed it off.

5) N had my six with his "[bible] thumper" post further confusing the entire fucking blog!

6) I should just shut the fuck up & stop trying to be so snarky.

OK?

*thx N!....snark*

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at September 11, 2004 12:25 AM

Please explain to me?
Posted by: ilo at September 11, 2004 12:16 AM
--------------------
The comment stemmed from the wonderfully crass, chauvinistic, neanderthal, sexist, dick-in-the-dirt joke that you told. It is a 'guy' joke through-and-through.
No offense was intended. The comment was intended to illustrate the lumber-yard humor.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 11, 2004 12:25 AM

I think the romans used their penis's to drive in the nails
Posted by: aka MAT at September 11, 2004 12:15 AM

That was Biggus Dickus. . .

Posted by: bandelicious at September 11, 2004 12:26 AM

petey, sign up to the new group.

Anyone who wants to continue can go to our yahoo pics sites while Anna dabbles in this witchcraft known as blog maintenance...

Posted by: cathy in seattle at September 11, 2004 12:26 AM

You are signed up for both yahoo groups, right?
Posted by: cathy in seattle at September 11, 2004 12:17 AM
===============================================

BOTH?????

Oh, dear lord!!!!!

What did I miss?????

p :(

Posted by: petemoon at September 11, 2004 12:26 AM

George Bush masturbates to Hitler's picture every night.

Posted by: at September 11, 2004 12:26 AM

Us guessing at who patrioterer is just builds the legend...as if the young fellow needs any encouragement...

Posted by: Nobody at September 11, 2004 12:05 AM

i think its you

Posted by: at September 11, 2004 12:26 AM

There, Terry, How's that?

Posted by: cathy in seattle at September 11, 2004 12:23 AM

Well I was thinking something more along the lines help, but thanks

Posted by: terry wilke at September 11, 2004 12:26 AM

You have to join the group, and be signed in to access the pictures.
Since we're going cold turkey blogless, anyone want to try the stinky yahoo group chat?

Posted by: at September 11, 2004 12:26 AM

petemoon, did you live on guam in '76?

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 11, 2004 12:26 AM

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MajorityReportPixOverspill/

meet you there!

Posted by: cathy in seattle at September 11, 2004 12:26 AM

Not every woman is offended by that talk btw Terry - and some are - such is life.

Posted by: at September 11, 2004 12:27 AM

Anna?

Posted by: terry wilke at September 11, 2004 12:27 AM

bye chubby love - i'll miss you for two hours...
:)

Posted by: shell at September 11, 2004 12:27 AM

Another caption option:
The cuisine in the Tank was superb.
Anna served buns.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 11, 2004 12:10 AM

and by the time wilke posted the pic, they was hot-cross buns

Posted by: at September 11, 2004 12:28 AM

Turnng off the blog is one way to get me to quit blogging. The other is work!

Posted by: aka MAT at September 11, 2004 12:28 AM

which chat?
yahoo mrrpics?

majority chat?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/majorityreportchat/?yguid=152449989

overspill chat?

Posted by: cathy in seattle at September 11, 2004 12:28 AM

LaL...you can't stop and you know it...*snark*

Posted by: Nobody at September 11, 2004 12:28 AM

Tchuss

Posted by: bandelicious at September 11, 2004 12:28 AM

I'm not sure I'll make it back tonight.

ILO -- don't worry. Blogging is kinda asexual in nature. don't be put off that some don't seem to appritiate you feminine qualities.

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 11, 2004 12:29 AM

petemoon, did you live on guam in '76?
Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 11, 2004 12:26 AM
=============================================

IIRC, I lived on Guava in '76.

p :)

Posted by: petemoon at September 11, 2004 12:29 AM

Shocking and awful" is the way many people view the current situation in Iraq and the United States. The war continues to takes its toll on Iraqi civilians, international aid workers, journalists and U.S. troops. Here at home we are seeing how waging a "perpetual war" is affecting our own lives as well.

http://www.newtopiamagazine.net/content/issue18/newcinema/deepdish.php

Posted by: aka MAT at September 11, 2004 12:29 AM

speaking of work MAT...hows it coming with the business?

Posted by: Nobody at September 11, 2004 12:29 AM

MAT!! missed you all day - i'll get an email going now...
:)
xoxox

k sorry anna i';m done

Posted by: shell at September 11, 2004 12:29 AM

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MajorityReportPixOverspill/post

Posted by: terry wilke at September 11, 2004 12:29 AM

"which chat?"

I dunno. I'm an idear peep, not an answer peep.

Posted by: at September 11, 2004 12:30 AM

p :)

Posted by: petemoon at September 11, 2004 12:14 AM

------

is that a correction reflection?

Posted by: at September 11, 2004 12:30 AM

Hey Hey Shell how you doing! I been fixing little old ladies computers and turning them on to Democracynow! HEhe!

Posted by: aka MAT at September 11, 2004 12:31 AM

Anna: dynamic email links....pretty, pretty, please?

I swear I'll put that function to good use here...promise!

G'nite gang
peace
L@L
*to the deck then DVD's :)*

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at September 11, 2004 12:31 AM

Anna, coincidentally, needs to shut down comments while two of her attributes are the subject of discussion?
Coincidence? I don't THINK so.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 11, 2004 12:31 AM

Chubby Love

Ooh chubby love, my chubby love
I need you, oh how I need you
But all you do is treat me bad
Break my heart and leave me sad
Tell me, what did I do wrong
To make you stay away so long

'Cause chubby love, my chubby love
Been missing ya, miss kissing ya
Instead of breaking up
Let's do some kissing and making up
Don't throw our love away
In my arms why don't you stay
Need ya, need ya
Chubby love, ooh, chubby love

Chubby love, my chubby love
Why must we seperate, my love
All of my whole life through
I never loved no one but you
Why you do me like you do
I get this need

Ooh, ooh, need to hold you
Once again, my love
Feel your warm embrace, my love
Don't throw our love away

Please don't do me this way
Not happy like I used to be
Loneliness has got the best of me
My love, my chubby love

I need you, oh how I need you
Why you do me like you do
After I've been true to you
So deep in love with you

Chubby, chubby, ooh 'til it's hurtin' me
'Til it's hurtin' me
Ooh, chubby love
Don't throw our love away
Don't throw our love away

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 11, 2004 12:31 AM

Arundhati Roy: DAMAGE

http://www.freespeech.org/fsitv/fscm2/contentviewer.php?content_id=765

Posted by: aka MAT at September 11, 2004 12:32 AM

CrankBait - not to me. Actually - this joke is old I know - but a woman at work first told it to me. I think your misperception about women's capacity for this type of humor is more chauvinistic than the joke. Anyway, anyone with common sense could see how trivial the impeachment disaster was at the time, and jokes are a way of dealing with this. You know this?

Posted by: ilo at September 11, 2004 12:32 AM

still active?

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 11, 2004 12:33 AM

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 11, 2004 12:31 AM

You're killin me here

Posted by: terry wilke at September 11, 2004 12:33 AM

http://www.freespeech.org/fsitv/fscm2/contentviewer.php?content_id=620

Satirical Tex-Arabian action adventure fantasy starring Charlton Heston, in Technicolor.

Posted by: aka MAT at September 11, 2004 12:34 AM

>>George Bush masturbates to Hitler's picture every night.

Laura won't wear the mask anymore?

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 11, 2004 12:34 AM

how about mrpix chat?

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MRRpics/chat

Posted by: cathy in seattle at September 11, 2004 12:34 AM

Anna: dynamic email links....I swear I'll put that function to good use here...promise!

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at September 11, 2004 12:31 AM

Yes, please, Anna!

Posted by: Catharine at September 11, 2004 12:35 AM

love u anna

thanks for de bloggie tune up!

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at September 11, 2004 12:36 AM

Ok ok ok; we all gotta go I suppose.
Good night Cranky; and Nobody; W@W and Miss Anne.

Good nite Shell.

Good nite blog.

Pray for peace, work for justice.
Good night all.

Posted by: ilo at September 11, 2004 12:36 AM

I finally figure out how to tell when its time to mow the lawn. Wait untill all the lawn and gardening fliers start showing up on you porch.

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 11, 2004 12:37 AM

Could the owner of the new yahoo group approve my membership?

p :)

Posted by: petemoon at September 11, 2004 12:37 AM

Sea-C-- you know what I mean? they are all over my front porch.

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 11, 2004 12:38 AM

night Ilo...may your god continue to bless you

Posted by: Nobody at September 11, 2004 12:38 AM

whoops, sorry Pete! BRB

BTW, yahoo chat sucks.

Posted by: cathy in seattle at September 11, 2004 12:38 AM

OK I'm out

xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo

Anna email me!

Posted by: terry wilke at September 11, 2004 12:38 AM

I finally figure out how to tell when its time to mow the lawn. Wait untill all the lawn and gardening fliers start showing up on you porch.
Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 11, 2004 12:37 AM
================================================

Do you know how to tell the difference between a plant and a weed?

p :)

Posted by: petemoon at September 11, 2004 12:38 AM

hey bloggie kids,

i've been pretty busy, but ghosting around these parts unnoticed when i can.

been snipping and archiving your utterances with full approval of the attorney general.

i put up a few new MRR bloggie remixes.

http://mrrbloggie.blogspot.com/

if you want to help out, please email me photo links or attachments for using on bloggie.

also, please cut, paste, & email me any portion of the majority report blog smackdowns, tangents, poetry, late-night delirium that you dug.

mrrbloggie ~ our ephemeral time capsule of spiel.

mrrbloggie@walla.com

Posted by: nebulous at September 11, 2004 12:39 AM

Good nite blog.
Posted by: ilo at September 11, 2004 12:36 AM
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Isn't that a Maurice Sendak book?

p :)

Posted by: petemoon at September 11, 2004 12:40 AM

ilo,
True, plenty of baudy babes (and not-so baudy babes) tell off-color jokes. Some of the jokes have social and/or political undertones.
My misplaced joke was a valiant yet misplaced attempt (obviously misplaced) to joke about ilo being baudy.
Sorry if I offended you. And yet, I may do so again through my unbounded ingnorance and due to my varied audience.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 11, 2004 12:40 AM

>Sea-C-- you know what I mean? they are all over my front porch.<

yup, but they can't see my lawn from the gate because of the hedge. Seems weird as a master gardener to have garnening fliers show up on your gate.

Posted by: cathy in seattle at September 11, 2004 12:41 AM

night Ilo...may your god continue to bless you

Posted by: Nobody
+++++++++++++++++

Goodness, Nobody, there is but One god. No matter what name, or no name at all that you call this divine Creative power. Should you follow the path of your faith and be true, no matter what your denomination, you celebrate the same god as I.

Please relax - Christianity, in the way Jesus taught, is neither a cult of personality nor an exclusive club. The righ-wingers, perhaps, have many confused about this.

Good night, Nobody - especially to you.

Posted by: ilo at September 11, 2004 12:41 AM

night Ilo...may your god continue to bless you

Posted by: Nobody
+++++++++++++++++

Please relax - Christianity, in the way Jesus taught, is neither a cult of personality nor an exclusive club. The righ-wingers, perhaps, have many confused about this.

Good night, Nobody - especially to you.

Posted by: ilo at September 11, 2004 12:41 AM

Well now C., C.-SEA Rider, well now see, see what you have done.
Well now C., C.-SEA Rider, well now see, see what you have done.
Well you made me love you woman, now your man is gone.

So I'm goin' away now baby and I won't be back till fall,
I'm goin' away now baby and I won't be back till fall,
Just might find me a good girl might not be commin' back at all.

Well now C., C.-SEA Rider, see now the moon is shining bright,
Well now C., C.-SEA Rider, see now the moon is shining bright,
Just might find me that good girl and everything would be alright.

####################

Just a homage to my homey.

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 11, 2004 12:41 AM

I see its now down to 64 words!!!

p :)

Posted by: petemoon at September 11, 2004 12:42 AM

i'm balling my eyes out...look what my mum sent in an ecard!

"I love the gift but most of all knowing that you are thinking of me. I miss our togetherness, being with my child who nurtures me. Love, Mum"

good night ilo!!
xoxox

Posted by: shell's last post i swear! at September 11, 2004 12:42 AM

- sorry - the blog doesn't like me tonight.

Posted by: ilo at September 11, 2004 12:42 AM

love the chubby song chubby! goes to my chubby file for sure!
nightie

Posted by: shell at September 11, 2004 12:43 AM

I LOVE YOU ILO!!!!

Posted by: B L O G at September 11, 2004 12:44 AM

Petemoon,
It seems that I spend half of my life explaining what I said in the other half of my life.

Posted by: Crank Bait at September 11, 2004 12:44 AM

CATHY!!! don't give out details about your house!

for all you know I could be some kinda whack-o!

But some day I'd like to meet you.

Posted by: chubby_bubba at September 11, 2004 12:44 AM

Aww -- Shell!!!! That's SO sweet!!!!! :)

Please don't break your promise in order to respond!!!!!

p :)

Posted by: petemoon at September 11, 2004 12:45 AM

I'm an athiest Ilo...sleep well

Posted by: Nobody at September 11, 2004 12:45 AM

bawdy

Posted by: at September 11, 2004 12:45 AM

***COMMENTS ARE ENABLED AGAIN****

thanks for your patience - gotta do the same thing for a while tomorrow night.

Posted by: annatopia at September 11, 2004 05:57 AM

Thanks Annatopia!!!

Posted by: at September 11, 2004 05:57 AM

Todays must-read:

Saturday, September 11, 2004
September 11 and Its Aftermath

In order to evaluate the aftermath of September 11, we first must understand that event. What did al-Qaeda intend to achieve? Only if we understand that can we gauge their success or failure.

http://www.juancole.com/

Posted by: at September 11, 2004 06:00 AM

Morning No Nic,
I see the blog was taken down for awhile.

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 06:03 AM

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http://www.911citizenswatch.org

http://www.fas.org/sgp/congress/2004/082404aftergood.pdf
Fed of American Scientists 9/11 Testimony 8/24/04 Steven Aftergood

http://www.unansweredquestions.org/
Distribution via the Unanswered Questions Wire

http://www.northstarcompass.org/nsc0305/ratsma.htm
http://www.ericalterman.com/
Eric Alterman points out Bush and Vice President Cheney
"have not merely ignored "homeland" protection, they have sabotaged it.”

http://www.familiesofseptember11.org/home.asp
Families of September 11

http://www.911timeline.net/
Minute by Minute Timeline

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/
Exposing the New World Order

http://www.dailypress.com/news/nationworld/ats-ap_top15sep10,0,5574216.story?coll=sns-newsnation-headlines
New York Marking 3rd Anniversary of 9/11

http://www.championtrees.org/peace/PrayersforPeace04.htm
Prayers for Peace
Saturday, September 11, 2004
A Call to the Four Directions
all peoples - all nations - all faiths - national and worldwide

http://www.september11news.com/
The Day the World Changed

http://www.wanttoknow.info/911timeline2pg
Was 9/11 Allowed to Happen?

http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=39039
Internal Government Documents Show How the Bus

Posted by: s h e l l at September 11, 2004 06:03 AM

The more you give, the more you get.
The more you laugh, the less you fret.
The more you do unselfishly,
The more you like abundantly,
The more of everything you share.
The more you'll always have to share
The more you love, the more you'll find
That life is good and friends are kind...
For only what we give away,
Enriches us from day to day.

Helen Steiner Rice

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 06:04 AM

http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=39039
Internal Government Documents Show How the Bush Administration Reduced Counterterrorism

http://www.geocities.com/revolution4u2000/
The 9/11 Coverup and More

http://www.globalpolicy.org/wtc/analysis/index.htm
Causes, Repercussions and Consequences

http://www.zmag.org/terrorwar/nineeleven.htm
Key Essays by Noam Chomsky: Terror and a Just Response / Interviewed by Shalom - Stephen Shalom: Why Do They Hate Us? - Martin Espada: Alabanza
Arundhati Roy: Come September / War is Peace - Robert Fisk: The Awesome Cruelty of a Doomed People

http://www.september11victims.com
Updated Profile of All Victims

http://www.911wvfa.org/
Widows and Victims Families Association

http://www.9-11heroes.us/
In Memory to all those who gave their lives on 9-11

http://911digitalarchive.org/
Video Archive
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sorry i always mess long ones up...thanks anna!

Posted by: at September 11, 2004 06:04 AM

i really love that post tonid...i'm gonna keep that one, thank you and good morning.
:)

Posted by: shell at September 11, 2004 06:09 AM

Morning Shelly,
Yah, I thought that was what we should aspire to.

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 06:20 AM

Iraqi city turns against rebel Shi'ite cleric

Najaf beginning to denounce U.S. foe
September 11, 2004

BY SORAYA SARHADDI NELSON
FREE PRESS FOREIGN CORRESPONDENT

NAJAF, Iraq -- Peace has failed to bring reconciliation in Najaf, a city considered significant to Shi'ite Muslims and where self-declared holy warriors battled U.S. forces last month.

Each day, hundreds of residents turn out to shout down rebel Shi'ite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr. They blame him for leaving Najaf in ruins and blame his henchmen for slaying as many as 300 people.

"Muqtada is garbage and his people are all crooks," demonstrators chanted Friday. That's an extraordinary slur for a man who is the son of an assassinated spiritual leader and merits the honorific, Sayyed, as a descendant of the prophet Muhammad.

This kind of outburst was unthinkable three weeks ago, when al-Sadr and his armed followers ruled Najaf and its holy shrine and led a nationwide insurgency against the U.S. occupation. He flouted centuries-old tradition to defy the key spiritual leaders of Iraq's Shi'ite majority. He drove them into seclusion and their followers into fearful silence.

Now, the besieged have turned the tables, raising questions about how deep and broad al-Sadr's support actually is. Al-Sadr posters and pictures tacked up around the city streets and neighborhood shops have been torn down. The police, whom al-Sadr's fighters drove from their Najaf and neighboring Kufa compounds last spring, have now packed their jail cells with the cleric's followers.

"Al-Sadr's hold on Najaf? It's over for good," said one police major who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

The venomous backlash by the city's merchants, policemen and the wealthy, who suffered most under al-Sadr's five-month rule, has rattled the cleric's top advisers, who are hunkered in his office within earshot of the protests. They blame Najaf's governor and police for orchestrating the demonstrations and using officers dressed in street clothes to rally the crowd.

The cleric and his entourage also have been cut off from the city

Posted by: at September 11, 2004 06:27 AM

Shiite firebrand searching for a role after losses in Najaf

HAMZA HENDAWI, Associated Press Writer
Thursday, September 9, 2004

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(09-09) 07:25 PDT NAJAF, Iraq (AP) --

The erosion of some of radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr's status showed recently when his supporters gathered outside his office here. They chanted a prayer for their leader but showed none of the zeal that marked similar rituals just weeks ago.

Two weeks ago, al-Sadr's militia agreed to stop fighting U.S. and Iraqi forces and turned over control of the Imam Ali shrine, Najaf's most sacred mosque, to aides of Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, Iraq's top Shiite cleric.

Since then, the mood among al-Sadr's followers has become somber. Gone is the swagger of the men loathed and feared by many people here for bringing death and destruction to one of Islam's holiest cities.

On Thursday, Iraqi security forces dealt another blow to al-Sadr's prestige when a 60-strong force searched his office in Najaf looking for weapons. Al-Sadr was not in the office at the time and no weapons were found there, Iraqi officials said.

The youthful cleric and his movement are pondering their future in an Iraq where powerful figures in the majority Shiite community would like to see them marginalized. They see their actions, like taking up arms against the Americans, to be dividing the Shiite community when it should stand united less than five months ahead of a key general election expected to give them the political power they had been denied for years by a Sunni Arab minority.

Interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi, a U.S.-backed secularist Shiite, is insisting that al-Sadr disband his al-Mahdi Army.

Having faced down al-Sadr in Najaf, U.S. commanders have turned their attention to his base in Baghdad's Sadr City, a teeming Shiite slum which is the cleric's main power base.

Last week, a senior U.S. Army officer in charge of security in Baghdad said American troops must restore control of Sadr City before al-Sadr has a chance to rebuild his militia there.

"We're

Posted by: at September 11, 2004 06:28 AM

Ted Rall's comic has captured a difference I see between the friendly and opposition posters here:
http://www.ucomics.com/tedrall/

...and I do hope the opposition posters give Juan Cole a read and try to understand what Bush has really accomplished. W really seems to be the "poster boy" for al-Qaeda recruitment.

Posted by: at September 11, 2004 06:31 AM

I just watched CNN's Peter Bergen's interview with Usama bin Laden.
It has been too quiet from him. Leads me to believe he is planning something else against us.
Unlike others, I don't believe anything will happen before the elections. Maybe minor things, but I think he is waiting to see who will win the election.

If Bush happens to get in again, there will definately be something huge. If Kerry wins the election, I think bin Laden will give him time to see what this Presidency will do. If the troops are pulled out of Iraq, He may wait and see if other things are changing. If not, I think he will attack no matter who is in office.

He wants us out of the Arabian Peninsula, especially out of Saudi Arabia and the Holy places. He also brought up Isreal and groups Isreal and the United States together, so I am sure he would look for changes there as well.

My thoughts.

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 06:31 AM

Pet Goat Authors For Truth - Forged documents?

Evidently typewriters themselves did not exist in the 60's, 70's. The cavemen of the time used rocks and low gutteral sounds to communicate, ergo: the memos are an obviously fraudulent attempt to depant the reigning commander in chimp.

Posted by: Anti-OxiContin at September 11, 2004 06:44 AM

http://www.library.ubc.ca/edlib/egoffbib/226.gif

Posted by: Anti-OxiContin at September 11, 2004 06:47 AM

http://www.summeroftruth.org/

Summer of Truth
9/11 TRUTH MOVEMENT EVENTS TO EXPOSE THE COVER-UP
New York City - Aug/Sep 2004

Posted by: at September 11, 2004 06:47 AM

Posted by: at September 11, 2004 06:56 AM

Just read Juan Cole's article and it is good to see that I am on the same page as he is.
Although he didn't go into the next attack, the basis of the assumtion on my part mirrors his.

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 06:59 AM

This does not surprise me at all. It is a terrible program that serves only the Drug Co's bottom line.

Few Apply for Medicare Drug Coverage

Sat Sep 11,12:18 AM ET

By MARK SHERMAN, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Far from the expected deluge, relatively few patients with cancer and other serious illnesses have applied for generous early Medicare prescription drug coverage.

The Bush administration was planning a lottery to determine who would get the 50,000 slots included in last year's Medicare prescription drug law. Instead, just 6,364 people have applied for the head start on drug insurance for costly cancer medicines taken orally and self-injectable drugs for multiple sclerosis, rheumatoid arthritis and other diseases.

The Medicare Web site now advises: "There are still many enrollment slots available!"

Patient advocates and physicians blame the low enrollment on several problems: The government scared off some people by using the term lottery and hasn't publicized the program enough. In addition, it came up with an intimidating application for people with debilitating, life-threatening illnesses.

Complaints about complexity also have been raised regarding the Medicare discount drug card program, where enrollment also has fallen short of expectations.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&u=/ap/20040911/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/medicare_cancer_drugs&printer=1

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 07:05 AM

This is what I have to contend with. Don't have the money to pay for this drug.

The administration had expected tens of thousands of people like 81-year-old Helen Curtis to step forward when it unveiled the new program in June. While many cancer drugs administered in doctors' offices already are covered under Medicare, costly newer oral medicines and most drugs for other illnesses are not.

Curtis had been spending $560 for each shot of Abbott Laboratories' Humira that she injects herself with every two weeks to relieve symptoms of rheumatoid arthritis — a cost that would reach $14,560 for a full year.

Since her coverage began Sept. 1, Curtis said she will pay $1,200 for the medicine for the rest of the year, amounting to less than $150 per injection.

Unusual for someone her age, Curtis is an avid computer user and read about the program online. "I told my doctor about it and even took extra forms for other patients," she said in a telephone interview from her home in Scarsdale, N.Y.

"The sad thing is, people didn't know about it," she said.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&u=/ap/20040911/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/medicare_cancer_drugs&printer=1

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 07:10 AM

John Kerry's Voting Record
http://www.congressmerge.com/onlinedb/cgi-bin/membervotes.cgi?%E2%8C%A9=&member=MAJR&site=congressmerge&address=&city=&state=&zipcode=&plusfour=&fullvotes=1

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 07:12 AM

In Search Of Friends Among The Foes
U.S. Hopes to Work With Diverse Group
By John Mintz and Douglas Farah
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, September 11, 2004; Page A01

When U.S. immigration officers in New York City whisked away Ishaq Farhan as he stepped off an incoming international flight in May 2000, his Jordanian diplomatic passport was no help to him. Federal agents questioned him for hours before barring his entry into the country. Then they made him pay for the flight back to Jordan.

The U.S. Embassy in Jordan lost no time making amends to Farhan, a leading opposition politician who has been closely affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood, a worldwide movement opposed to Western influences. A State Department official visited his home, issued him an immediate visa and passed on the United States' "deep regret for the difficulties Dr. Farhan experienced."

The episode demonstrates the U.S. government's dilemma. Some federal agents worry that the Muslim Brotherhood has dangerous links to terrorism. But some U.S. diplomats and intelligence officials believe its influence offers an opportunity for political engagement that could help isolate violent jihadists.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A12823-2004Sep10?language=printer

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 07:16 AM

Kerry Criticizes Drug Plan
Hiding Bill's Costs Broke Law, He Says
By Paul Farhi
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, September 11, 2004; Page A06

ALLENTOWN, Pa., Sept. 10 -- John F. Kerry, touting his health care proposals for a second day, charged Friday that the Bush administration "broke the law" by failing to disclose to Congress that its prescription drug plan would cost $100 billion more than its original estimate.

The Democratic nominee spent the day expressing his support for an extension of a federal ban on assault weapons and talking about rising health care costs, in a shift away from his focus earlier this week on the war in Iraq. Kerry is hoping that domestic issues, particularly the rising cost of health insurance, will help sway undecided voters, blunting President Bush's advantage in leading the war on terrorism.

The four-term senator said here and in a morning event in St. Louis -- both in the heart of crucial swing states -- that White House officials violated the law when they pressured an auditor not to disclose his estimates of the cost of the Medicare prescription drug program passed by Congress late last year.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A12758-2004Sep10?language=printer

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 07:21 AM

Remember 9/11

Posted by: celticman at September 11, 2004 07:24 AM

The GrannyVoters, Getting Out the Vote

By Ellen Goodman
Saturday, September 11, 2004; Page A21
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Finally an area for me.

http://www.grannyvoter.org/
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For most of my friends, joining the grandparent 'hood is one of those turning points in life when you are again projected into the future. Yet politicians deal with the new generation of grandparents as if all we cared about were Social Security, prescription drugs and Medicare. As if the only time we think about our legacy is when we make out a will.

The GrannyVoter project grew out of the meetings of a small group of women of a certain age who got together to do some soul-searching and thinking about the next stage of life. I've been part of the group, which includes anthropologist Mary Catherine Bateson, writer Nancy Berkley, higher-ed consultant Rita Bornstein, former vice presidential candidate Geraldine Ferraro, foundation president Ruth Massinga, psychotherapist Rosemary Masters, author Patricia O'Brien, historian Nell Painter, writer Letty Cottin Pogrebin and former representative Patricia Schroeder.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13001-2004Sep10.html

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 07:32 AM

Remember 9/11

Posted by: celticman at September 11, 2004 07:24 AM

--------------------------

our selected prez george bush
during disaster sat on his tush
he said with a smirk
you think me a jerk
but at least I am safe ‘n not smush

Posted by: RWiley at September 11, 2004 07:34 AM

********9/11 Remembered **************

Moment of Silence
Parents reading names of children lost
Shows on TV taking us back to that horror filled day

*******
For Barry Zellman, whose brother Kenneth died in the World Trade Center attacks, the day has become an annual pilgrimage.

"I will always go to the place where my brother took his last breath," said Zellman, who lives in New Jersey. "It's a sacred burial ground for me. It keeps me connected to him. Sometimes it feels like America has gone past that day in so many ways, but for me there's no question of being anywhere else on September 11."

Firefighters in New York will hold a number of events to honor the 343 active and three retired firefighters who died in the attack, including a memorial Mass at St Patrick's Cathedral.

"It's a reminder of what we went through and what we will have to deal with for the rest of our lives," said Rudy Sanfilippo, a firefighters union official.

9/11 happened to all of us. Maybe not as extremely
as the victims and their families, but to our psyche.

May the victims of 9/11 all rest in peace.

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 07:41 AM

Morning RW...how are you this AM?

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 07:43 AM

Isn't it sad on this anniversary of 9/11 to realize that in the four years of the Bush administration George and Dick have done little but campaign for their own survival?
In the meantime we are less safe and more divided than ever before in our history. They have bankrupt the country and have made greed the policy of their politics.

Posted by: RWiley at September 11, 2004 07:43 AM

Ineffective Iraqi Force in Fallouja Disbanded
The move is a setback to Marines, who hoped the brigade would quell the insurgency in the city.

RAMADI, Iraq — The Iraqi military force formed by the Marines in a last-ditch effort to pacify the restive city of Fallouja has been disbanded in the face of continuing violence, assaults on government security forces and evidence that some members have been working openly with insurgents.

The dissolution of the Fallouja Brigade, created during the spring to avoid an all-out assault on the insurgent hotbed, marked a significant setback for the U.S. military. The Americans had hoped that the brigade, composed of former members of the Iraqi army and Saddam Hussein's special security forces, would work alongside the new Iraqi government and help restore order.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/iraq/la-fg-fallouja11sep11,1,2420517.story?coll=la-home-headlines

Posted by: at September 11, 2004 07:45 AM

Holy shit, new layout. Looks way good.

Oh, right, just popped in to say hello to all you guys and gals and sorry for just vanishing, my comp seems to have died.

Will be back to discuss all things political and mainly those things Israeli, palestinian, lesbian and commy when I bring the comp back from the dead or get a new one.

Lots of kinky love to you all

RedRubin

Posted by: RedRubin at September 11, 2004 07:46 AM

Morning RW...how are you this AM?

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 07:43 AM

Just fine Toni D....thanks..hope you are the same....I notice that celticboy is lurking......in his naivety he has no idea of what 9ll means.....he thinks it is some kind of rally call.....like at a football (or rugby) game.....

Posted by: RWiley at September 11, 2004 07:47 AM

http://www.juancole.com/

just watched CNN's Peter Bergen's interview with Usama bin Laden.
It has been too quiet from him. Leads me to believe he is planning something else against us.
Unlike others, I don't believe anything will happen before the elections. Maybe minor things, but I think he is waiting to see who will win the election.

If Bush happens to get in again, there will definately be something huge. If Kerry wins the election, I think bin Laden will give him time to see what this Presidency will do. If the troops are pulled out of Iraq, He may wait and see if other things are changing. If not, I think he will attack no matter who is in office.

My thoughts.

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 06:31 AM

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 07:47 AM

My thoughts.

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 07:47 AM

I agree all the way on that. George Bush was our gift to world terrorism.....

Posted by: RWiley at September 11, 2004 07:49 AM

Red Rubin,
Was asking about you. Worried a little cos of all the stuff going on there.
Glad to hear from you.

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 07:49 AM

******* He needs to go. This kind of thinking can only hurt us more in the world. He's got to go.

Rumsfeld Says Terror Outweighs Jail Abuse

Associated Press
Saturday, September 11, 2004; Page A04

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, responding to allegations that he fostered a climate that led to the prisoner-abuse scandal, said yesterday that the military's mistreatment of detainees was not as bad as what terrorists have done.

"Does it rank up there with chopping someone's head off on television?" he asked. "It doesn't."

Rumsfeld acknowledged once again that he had approved harsher interrogation methods for suspects captured in the global war on terrorism but said the rules were meant only for the Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, facility for terrorist suspects and had nothing to do with Iraq, where the prison scandal emerged.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A11930-2004Sep10?language=printer

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 07:53 AM

"I notice that celticboy is lurking......in his naivety he has no idea of what 9ll means..."

I'd been looking for a word for the trolls and naive is it.
I'd been using the "politically correct" unaware,
but of course what I mean is "ignorant." ;)

Posted by: at September 11, 2004 07:53 AM

Good to be here, toni :)

But, alas, I gotta get going, people are kicking me off this computer.

Hope to be back real soon!

Ciao, babes

Posted by: RedRubin at September 11, 2004 07:54 AM

Celticboy is totally naive. He believes in Bush and his father's beliefs (which is admirable), but will never look at the big picture. Sounds like he has lot on his plate, but should take the time to look at the big picture.

We all have our problems, and children today are tough to raise. Especially if you are doing it alone. I know.

Just hope he can look past the rhetoric.

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 08:02 AM

Sure does take up the news right after the conventions...Hurricane's are great to cover news now that the Kobe trial and Scott Peterson trial are no good for cover.

Hrm.. Hurricane control. What do YOU think?

http://www.bariumblues.com/storm_fury.htm

Odd there wasn't any terrorist chatter or threats during the Republican Convention but there was during the Democratic Conventions.

Ahh Rovie you are a genius...

Wait the Federal Reserve Bank is privatized!!!

Posted by: DAN RATHER at September 11, 2004 08:05 AM

Sure does take up the news right after the conventions...Hurricane's are great to cover news now that the Kobe trial and Scott Peterson trial are no good for cover.

Hrm.. Hurricane control. What do YOU think?

http://www.bariumblues.com/storm_fury.htm

Odd there wasn't any terrorist chatter or threats during the Republican Convention but there was during the Democratic Conventions.

Ahh Rovie you are a genius...

Wait the Federal Reserve Bank is privatized!!!

Posted by: DAN RATHER at September 11, 2004 08:06 AM

Afghans Mark 9/11 Anniversary with Mixed Feelings
40 minutes ago
By David Brunnstrom

BAGRAM AIR BASE, Afghanistan (Reuters) - U.S. forces and their allies in Afghanistan (news - web sites) remembered the third anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks in somber fashion Saturday, conscious that the war on terror will be a long one.

It is more than a year since Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said on a visit to Afghanistan that U.S. forces had moved from major combat to stabilization and reconstruction.

>snip

Afghans marked the anniversary with mixed emotions -- some glad of the U.S.-led intervention that toppled the Taliban after Sept 11, but others deeply suspicious of Washington's intentions.

Three years on, the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden (news - web sites), alleged mastermind of the world's worst act of terror, are still unknown and his al Qaeda group and Taliban guerrillas taunt the United States from the rugged Afghan interior.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&u=/nm/20040911/ts_nm/security_anniversary_afghan_dc&printer=1

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 08:09 AM

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0409.deparle.html

Our great success at welfare reform,
a close look. Warning: it's a long piece!

excerpt:

"Jose's motives were more complex. Among the five Milwaukee agencies running W-2 (including the YWCA and Goodwill Industries), Maximus was the only national, for-profit company--a welfare agency that traded on the New York Stock Exchange! By allowing states to privatize their programs, the 1996 law set off a gold rush among such firms; one Wall Street analyst saw more than $2 billion a year up for grabs. Formidable rivals like EDS and Lockheed Martin, the aerospace giant, were fighting for the business, but with a longer record and tighter focus, Maximus was thought to have an edge. The W-2 contract was a coup. No welfare program was followed more closely, and Maximus hoped to leverage the publicity into market share nationwide. The company went public on the eve of W-2's launch, and the stake of the founder, David Mastran, soared to more than $100 million.

But behind the scenes, the Maximus program was soon in disarray. W-2 was built on the theory of "full engagement": 40 hours of weekly activity, of which 30 would involve actual work. Yet many clients waited months for assignments. Others ignored their assignments and got paid anyway. Six months after the program's start, Steve Perales, the second in charge, warned that "virtually no referrals are being made to the CSJ unit," the one that assigns community service jobs. While 1,100 clients were supposed to have assignments, just 507 had gotten them, and "only about 88 are actually participating." That is, in the country's most famous work program, only 8 percent of the clients were working. "What they were doing, I don't know," George Leutermann, the head of the program, later told me. "They were doing nothing.""

Posted by: at September 11, 2004 08:09 AM

We all have our problems, and children today are tough to raise. Especially if you are doing it alone. I know.

Just hope he can look past the rhetoric.

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 08:02 AM

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Agree. And we are suffering from a severe educational deficit. Youngsters like celticboy do not have the understanding of our history and the importance of the constitution and separation of powers. They think politics is a matter of Repubs vs Dems and that never the twain shall meet. That is why the Repubs are so successful with the flip-flop shit they spew. The mission of this administration is power and not what is best for the country, its people and the world. That is why they are so dangerous.

Posted by: RWiley at September 11, 2004 08:16 AM

http://www.tackamarks.freeservers.com/whats_new.html
(WARNING VERY violently graphic photo)

"Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful. This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government."
-- Henry Kissinger speaking at Evian, France, May 21, 1992 Bilderburgers meeting. Unbeknownst to Kissinger, his speech was taped by a Swiss delegate to the meeting.

http://www.texemarrs.com/101997/UNHELL.HTM
America Not Immune

http://www.etherzone.com/2002/stang053102.shtml
The only difference between the Mafia and the Bilderbergers or the Trilateral Commission, etc., is that the Bilderbergers have an ample supply of Harvard Professors, who provide protective coloration by means of ideology.

Posted by: s h e l l at September 11, 2004 08:16 AM

Odd there wasn't any terrorist chatter or threats during the Republican Convention but there was during the Democratic Conventions.

Posted by: DAN RATHER at September 11, 2004 08:05 AM

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said ridge when seeking publicity
we deny any neocon complicity
those terror alerts
during democratic blurts
by us bear no synchronicity

Posted by: RWiley at September 11, 2004 08:19 AM

Major Airlines Struggle in a Jet Stream of Change

23 minutes ago Add Top Stories - Los Angeles Times to My Yahoo!
By James F. Peltz Times Staff Writer

Three years after terrorists used jetliners as weapons and sent commercial aviation into its worst slump ever, the airline industry remains mired in red ink and is facing dramatic change.

With few exceptions, the major carriers are in critical shape. Most of the largest — American, United, Delta, Northwest and US Airways — are still losing money even though the summer is the airlines' busiest season.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=2026&ncid=716&e=29&u=/latimests/20040911/ts_latimes/majorairlinesstruggleinajetstreamofchange

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 08:22 AM

The Solution To Our Problem is Divine

You can not get it like that, because it is not in the very nature of the people to give their slaves [minorities] equal with themselves or shares in their country. They are not going to do that. So the solution to this problem is a Divine one.

...This you can not find, refuge under the shadow of the very murderer who has murdered you and deprived you of Freedom, Justice and Equality. Will he now turn and give you, Freedom, Justice and Equality? And if he does, you better doubt it as being true.

By Messenger Elijah Muhammad

Just as we better doubt George and Jeb Bush---many Gods will judge them as unfit in face of what they do not what they say.

Posted by: pablo at September 11, 2004 08:27 AM

U.S. Investigates Leak on Terror Probe

Fri Sep 10, 6:07 PM ET Add White House - AP Cabinet & State to My Yahoo!
By CURT ANDERSON, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - A federal prosecutor is investigating whether two reporters for The New York Times were leaked information about a terror financing investigation that may have tipped off the targets of the probe.

U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald of Chicago last week notified the newspaper in a letter that he intended to subpoena the telephone records of reporters Philip Shenon and Judith Miller.

An attorney for The Times, Floyd Abrams, confirmed receipt of the letter and said he was negotiating with Fitzgerald in hopes of preventing the telephone company records from being subpoenaed. He said neither The Times nor its reporters have received subpoenas.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=542&ncid=718&e=10&u=/ap/20040910/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/terror_financing_leak

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 08:29 AM

Blast in Saudi city mars 9/11 anniversary
1 hour, 50 minutes ago

JEDDAH, Saudi Arabia (AFP) - A car blew up in front of a bank in the Saudi Red Sea city of Jeddah on the third anniversary of the September 11 attacks in the United States, security sources said.

At least one person, reportedly one of the bombers, was wounded in the blast in front of the headquarters of the Saudi American Bank in the commercial capital's northern Al-Bawady district.

"Four men arrived by car, got out and then the car exploded, injuring one of the men, who was arrested, while the other three fled" to the Al-Rueis district, some four kilometres (2.5 miles) away, a security source said.

The men then barricaded themselves inside a building some 700 metres from the US consulate. The building has now been surrounded by police, according to the same source.

Al-Arabiya satellite news channel reported that the blast happened at 9 am (0600 GMT), with one of its reporters adding that a stolen car had been used in the attack.

The blast came as Saudi officials maintained that ties between the kingdom and the United States had emerged stronger from the shock of the attacks in New York and Washington, despite the fact that the suicide hijackings had shaken traditionally close relations.

Fifteen of the 19 presumed suicide hijackers were Saudi.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1511&u=/afp/20040911/wl_afp/saudi_blast_040911104233&printer=1

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 08:34 AM

http://news.fairfax.com.au/article.cgi?id=78056
N Korea to pursue nuke programs: report
SEOUL AP 2004-Sep-11

North Korea said on Saturday that South Korea's secret nuclear experiments involving uranium and plutonium make the communist state more determined to pursue its own nuclear programs, a news report said.

A spokesman for North Korea's Foreign Ministry condemned the South Korean nuclear experiments, conducted in 1982 and 2000, as "clearly of military nature," according to Pyongyang's official news agency KCNA, monitored by South Korea's national news agency Yonhap.

The recent revelations of those experiments will affect the prospects for six-nation talks aimed at persuading North Korea to abandon its nuclear weapons programs, the unnamed North Korean spokesman was quoted as saying.

"We strongly suspect that the United States may have masterminded the experiments that were clearly of military nature," he was quoted as saying. "We cannot but link these developments with the issue of holding six-party talks."

South Korea said on Thursday that it extracted a tiny amount of plutonium, a key element for making atomic bombs, in a nuclear experiment in 1982. That revelation followed an acknowledgment last week that it enriched a small amount of uranium - another element that could be used to make a bomb - in 2000.

The controversy over South Korea's experiments has threatened to further disrupt troubled efforts to persuade North Korea to dismantle its suspected nuclear weapons programs.

"Under these circumstances, it is only natural that we should never give up our nuclear program," the North Korean spokesman said.

Posted by: at September 11, 2004 08:47 AM

Ever heard of Eddie Slovik, George?

It is clear from the evidence that President Bush dishonored his solemn oath to serve and protect our country in accordance with the US Constitution. He also disgraced the US military uniform. President Bush must therefore answer to the American people for his conduct, but most importantly he must answer to all those who have served our country honorably and most specially those who are now sacrificing and putting their lives at risk in his illegal and unnecessary war!

By all indications from all the information he has made available and that others have revealed, George W. Bush did fail to report to his post and to serve at his appointed place of duty at the time prescribed for an unusually long period of time and he did thereby dishonor his Constitutional oath as a commissioned officer of the US Armed Forces, thereby also dishonoring his military obligations -- during a time of war!

To the best of my knowledge, no other politician or political leader in the history of our country has ever had such a disgraceful foreign policy and military record! We are the most hated country in the world and Americans are the most hated people in the world and Bush is the most hated leader in the world, even more than Saddam Hussein!

The author then qualifies himself - no hippie commie peacenik liberal, he!

Posted by: pablo at September 11, 2004 08:47 AM

Deserter George W Bush

(b) Any commissioned officer...who,...quits his post of proper duties without leave and with intent to remain away therefrom permanently is guilty of desertion... [and]...(c) Any person found guilty of desertion or attempt to desert shall be punished, if the offense is committed in time of war, by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct ...."

Posted by: pablo at September 11, 2004 08:51 AM

Families Mark Moment of 2001 Attacks

2 minutes ago
By SARA KUGLER, Associated Press Writer

Parents and grandparents of victims then began reading the names of the 2,749 people lost in the trade center attack — a recitation that was expected to take more than two hours.

*********Poignant and true********

"A man who loses his wife is a widower. A woman who loses her husband is a widow," Mayor Michael Bloomberg said. "There is no name for a parent who loses a children, for there are no words to describe this pain."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=1&u=/ap/20040911/ap_on_re_us/sept_11_anniversary

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 09:04 AM

The people of NY have each other

And don't want GWB anywhere near those hallowed grounds zero

That they can mourn in peace!

GWB spent the day in hiding, reading My Pet Goat for leads on whereabouts of Osama bin Laden

Posted by: pablo at September 11, 2004 09:08 AM

Could it be that the vanishing Middle Class has no money left to invest in the stock market because of job loss?
**********
Bush actions skewered stock market

By David R. Breuhan / Special to The Detroit News

Rarely has a president made the same mistake twice. But the Bush administration has managed to hurt the stock market, once on its own and a second time with the help of the Republican-led Congress. It may explain why George W. Bush has a needlessly more difficult re-election battle.

The stock market is often considered an indicator of future economic activity. If the stock market rises, investors believe that corporate earnings will increase. If it stagnates or decreases, it indicates that investors believe future earnings will be lower.

http://www.detnews.com/2004/editorial/0409/10/a11-269072.htm

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 09:10 AM

****** A slap in the face to Repubs from our NAACP friends ***********

NAACP Blocks Paige Invitation to Speak

Fri Sep 10, 8:50 PM ET Add White House - AP Cabinet & State to My Yahoo!

CLEVELAND - The state NAACP has withdrawn a convention speaking invitation to U.S. Education Secretary Rod Paige at the request of the group's national office.

Paige, who was invited three weeks ago to discuss education reforms, was cut from the weekend program at the request of the national office, Ohio NAACP President Sybil Edwards-McNabb said Thursday.

The state meeting of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (news - web sites) opened Friday in Cleveland.

Edwards-McNabb said national NAACP leaders told her there was an "imbalance" in her slate of convention speakers. She said she had invited President Bush (news - web sites) and the Democratic nominee for president, Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites).

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040911/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/naacp_paige&e=4

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 09:15 AM

Ever heard of Eddie Slovik, George?

It is clear from the evidence that President Bush dishonored his solemn oath to serve and protect our country in accordance with the US Constitution.

---------He also disgraced the US military uniform.---------

President Bush must therefore answer to the === American people === (The president hides behind Rove and his StoneWall Jackson lookin' cheezey slime people.) for his conduct, but most importantly he must answer to all those who have served our country honorably and most specially those who are now sacrificing and putting their lives at risk in his illegal and unnecessary war!

This is the ultimate in disgrace (self, family, & country).

Posted by: pablo at September 11, 2004 09:22 AM

Fiscal Conservatives Challenge Bush

Fri Sep 10, 3:25 PM ET
By Adam Entous

CONSERVATIVES SKEPTICAL

But even fiscal conservatives, traditionally allied with the Republican White House, were skeptical of Bush's plans.

"While it's true that Kerry hasn't provided a detailed plan, neither has the president," said Heritage Foundation budget analyst Brian Riedl.

William Niskanen, chairman of the Cato Institute, said Bush's warnings about Kerry's spending plans were "inconsistent" with his own proposals. "There's no way to accomplish (Bush's) major new measures, including tax reform, without substantial increases in spending," Niskanen said.

Stephen Moore of the Club for Growth, a group that raises money for conservative political candidates, said Bush was not being "very forthright" about his plans. He called Bush's fiscal record "abysmal," adding that under both Bush and Kerry "fiscal responsibility takes the back seat."

This week congressional analysts warned the deficit will balloon to a cumulative $2.29 trillion over the next decade.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=584&ncid=584&e=7&u=/nm/20040910/pl_nm/campaign_promises_dc

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 09:33 AM

The Corporate Scandal Sheet

last updated in August

Interesting link...corporate investigations.
Also shows what corporations gave to Repubs and Dems.

http://www.citizenworks.org/enron/corp-scandal.php

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 09:46 AM

****** A slap in the face to Repubs from our NAACP friends ***********

NAACP Blocks Paige Invitation to Speak

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040911/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/naacp_paige&e=4

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 09:15 AM

Thanks for the post, I heard this on the news but hadn't seen anything in print--must forward to my email group.

Whenever I see Paige and Bush at a school my blood boils, why are these people not saying Oh Mr President come look at my school with it's roaches and pissy urinals, inopt water faucets, and shot out windows and you want to spend money in Iraq. Clean up America, give our kids a chance you morons.

Posted by: pablo at September 11, 2004 09:49 AM

How Many Deaths Will It Take?
By BOB HERBERT
Published: September 10, 2004

It was Vietnam all over again - the heartbreaking head shots captioned with good old American names:

Jose Casanova, Donald J. Cline Jr., Sheldon R. Hawk Eagle, Alyssa R. Peterson.

Eventually there'll be a fine memorial to honor the young Americans whose lives were sacrificed for no good reason in Iraq. Yesterday, under the headline "The Roster of the Dead," The New York Times ran photos of the first thousand or so who were killed.

They were sent off by a president who ran and hid when he was a young man and his country was at war. They fought bravely and died honorably. But as in Vietnam, no amount of valor or heroism can conceal the fact that they were sent off under false pretenses to fight a war that is unwinnable.

How many thousands more will have to die before we acknowledge that President Bush's obsession with Iraq and Saddam Hussein has been a catastrophe for the United States?

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/10/opinion/10herbert.html?hp

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 09:57 AM

BU$H‘S VISION FOR AMERICA!

For best effect click on music then while music is playing immediately click on picture link.

http://tinyurl.com/4hvyv (Music)

http://tinyurl.com/7xpkw (Picture)

Bushwingers “constitute the most timorous, sniveling, poltroonish, ignominious mob of serfs and goosesteppers ever gathered under one flag in Christendom since the end of the Middle Ages.” —[Acknowledgements to H. L. Mencken .]

Posted by: greenpagan at September 11, 2004 09:57 AM

'Intelligence Matters' Connecting Bush to 9-11
by Mike Whitney

published by Progressive Trail

'Intelligence Matters' Connecting Bush to 9-11

Senator Bob Graham's new book, "Intelligence Matters" is a political tsunami. Along with many unexplored allegations concerning both 9-11 and the war in Afghanistan, Graham creates an important link between the Bush Administration and the attacks of Sept. 11.

This connection corroborates the suspicions of many Americans who have studied 9-11 and believe that the administration may have facilitated the attacks by suppressing FBI investigations of terrorist activity in the US.

http://www.progressivetrail.org/articles/040909Whitney.shtml?mail=09

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 09:58 AM

Education Secretary Appearance Cut At NAACP Convention

Al Sharpton Speaks At Convention's Opening

POSTED: 6:12 pm EDT September 10, 2004
CLEVELAND -- The NAACP's 74th Annual State Convention kicked off Friday in Cleveland, reported NewsChannel5's Lorna Barrett.

The Rev. Al Sharpton was the featured speaker as the convention opened, but another scheduled speaker, whose invitation was retracted, found another podium.

U.S. education secretary Rod Paige appeared at Friday morning at Cleveland's Lousia May Alcott School. He was supposed to discuss President George W. Bush's No Child Left Behind program at the civil rights group's convention, until the NAACP withdrew the invitation.

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/3722680/detail.html

Americans in larger and louder more determined voices "like the maniacs on the right" need to demand better from these incompetent Bushies.

We will see in time more and more realization of the Bush team Lies,

watch what they do, not what they say,

the truth is in their actions.

Posted by: pablo at September 11, 2004 10:05 AM

"Of course we watch you. That's what you pay us for."

Posted by: Big Brother at September 11, 2004 10:07 AM

Intelligence Matters

Posted by: Bigger Brother at September 11, 2004 10:10 AM

Kitty smells a rat at CNN

Kitty Kelley thinks she knows why Larry King hasn't asked her to discuss her new book.

Don't mess with Miss Kitty.
You might get scratched.

Scandal impresario Kitty Kelley is suggesting that CNN's Larry King won't let her on his show to promote her upcoming book, "The Family: The Real Story of the Bush Dynasty," because he's a toady of the Bush family.

"I realize how important the Bushes are to Larry," Kelley E-mailed me. "He does not want to lose their friendship or offend them in any way. And having me on his show would probably anger the family, because they made their feelings clear from the beginning ... when the former President Bush called my publisher [Doubleday] and said he did not want this book written and would not cooperate in any way. So I certainly understand Larry's refusal to book me."

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/230329p-197785c.html

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 10:13 AM

http://earthops.org/sovereign/urban_warfare/
FM 90-10
Military Operations on Urbanized Terrain (MOUT)
Headquarters
Department of Army
Washington, DC, 15 August 1979

Posted by: Military Operations on Urbanized Terrain at September 11, 2004 10:17 AM

Wondering how the polls are giving a big Bush lead?
Here is one busted for push polling, as reported at the electoral vote tracking site, www.electoral-vote.com. The Bush dirty tricks are out early this year, and it is very important that people opposed to the current administration take as many as possible to the polls with them on Nov. 2. (I saw on C-Span yesterday a man predicting a 58% turnout, and this is very good for Kerry.)

Here is the push poll story:

I was afraid this was going to happen sooner or later and it has now happened. I have to make a judgement call on a firm that engages in push polling. In case you haven't followed this issue, push polling is where the pollster (on instructions from the client) asks a very slanted question in order to elicit the desired answer so the pollster can announce how well the client is doing. Questions like "Do you support John Kerry even though he lied about getting medals in Vietnam?" or "Do you support George Bush even though he deserted the National Guard during war time?" fall in this category. Legitimate pollsters would never ask such questions. Instead they might ask "Do you believe John Kerry earned his medals in Vietnam?" or "Do you believe George Bush fulfilled his duties in the National Guard?". Those are questions designed to determine public opinion, not create it.

Why does this come up now? Moore Information (R) just released a poll showing Bush 9% ahead in Iowa, a state he has never led in before and which the current poll (taken 5 days before Moore's poll) puts Bush 4% behind. On its own merits, this is implausible, but in the absence of other evidence, I would accept it, as I accepted Gallup's poll showing Bush 14% ahead in Missouri (even though I don't believe it for a second) due to Gallup's reputation. Even Gallup can make a mistake, but they are not dishonest. With Moore Information, the situation is different. Moore was recently caught doing push polling, as reported in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. It is ok for a pollster to work for one side or the other as long as they do honest polls (Scott Rasmussen is a Republican but I have no reason to question his numbers, for example). But Moore has crossed the

Posted by: Fanctpants at September 11, 2004 10:17 AM

Don't listen to your brothers

.
http://mrrbloggie.blogspot.com

Posted by: The New World Order Extermination Unit at September 11, 2004 10:19 AM

http://www.anonymizer.com/index.cgi

Posted by: at September 11, 2004 10:19 AM

14 Governors Receive Mail That's Rigged With Matches
By FOX BUTTERFIELD

Published: September 11, 2004

OSTON, Sept. 10 - Envelopes containing matches that were rigged to ignite when opened have been received through the mail at the offices of at least 14 state governors in the last two days.

The mailings, under investigation by the F.B.I. and the Department of Homeland Security, bear a return address that names two inmates at a maximum-security prison in Nevada. But a Nevada corrections official said it was unclear whether they were the actual senders.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/11/national/11letters.html?th

Posted by: tonid at September 11, 2004 10:20 AM

Here is the push poll story:

Posted by: Fancypants at September 11, 2004 10:21 AM

http://www.constitution.org/mil/mil_us.htm
U.S. National Militia Directory
Directory by State

Posted by: U.S. National Militia Directory at September 11, 2004 10:23 AM

and here I was thinking they just ate people and hoarded treasure all day

Posted by: ZaZu at September 11, 2004 10:38 AM

Australia: Second Cell Poised for Indonesia Attack

Saturday, September 11, 2004 7:15 a.m. ET
By Paul Tait

SYDNEY, Australia (Reuters) - Militants behind the deadly bombing of Australia's Jakarta embassy have a second group poised for attack, Australia's top policeman warned as Canberra said on Saturday all its diplomatic missions would be made bomb-proof.

"There is intelligence suggesting that there is a second group active in the area," Australian Federal Police Commissioner Mick Keelty told ABC radio.

Posted by: Australia: Second Cell Poised for Indonesia Attack at September 11, 2004 10:50 AM

Judge declares Rowell winner by a single vote

Decision sparks heated outbursts at courthouse

Saturday, September 11, 2004
By GARY McELROY and KAREN TOLKKINEN
Staff Reporters

Citronelle's District 3 residents have a new councilman after a judge on Friday declared that challenger William "Bobby" Rowell, in fact, defeated incumbent Michael Waltman last month by exactly one vote.

The unofficial results of the vote count at the close of the Aug. 24 election indicated Waltman had won by two votes.

Waltman and Rowell then went to the mat after Rowell challenged the ef ficacy of the election. Both sides ultimately began challenging ballots allegedly cast by people who did not live in District 3.

http://www.al.com/news/mobileregister/index.ssf?/base/news/1094894112241101.xml

Posted by: pablo at September 11, 2004 10:56 AM

http://www.thepoorman.net/archives/003145.html
___________

Elementary Logic

A lot of brainpower is currently occupied researching Vietnam-era typewriters, studying the finer points of font spacing, and experimenting with ways to produce duplicates of the Killian memos on various mechanical and electronic platforms, in order to determine if, indeed, these memos are the genuine article, or a modern forgery.

Who knew that forensic typography could be so boring?

Let me save everyone a whole lot of time. They are genuine. How do I know? Because the internet is currently awash in wingnuts claiming the memos are fakes. Ergo, they are for real. Q.E.D.

Some people may feel that I'm just being flip here. Is that so, some people?

Tell me: how rich would you be right now if, every time something was posted on a right-wing message board, or everytime Drudge had an exclusive, or any time Rush Limbaugh revealed a secret truth that the liberal media won't tell you, you called up your bookie and put down $20 even money on "bullshit"?

The correct answer is: "pretty fucking rich".

The correct answer is: "I would never, never lose."

So, if anyone doubts my methodology, I have a crisp new $20 bill that just told me that I'm 100% right and you're just too dumb to see it.

If any of you champs out there think me and Andrew Jackson are both wrong, well then, today's your lucky day, because we're paying 2:1. If you need us, we'll be on the couch playing ESPN NHL 2K5.

Peace.

[UPDATE: I don't mean to suggest that debating this issue is unnecessary; merely that it is unecessary if you are only interested in determining whether the memos are forgeries, and that detailed explorations of the subtleties of "kerning" (or whatever) are THE MOST BORING EVAR.

Of course, someone needs to go out and play duelling talking points with these people in order to win the fight for public opinion, and, in order to do this, you need to be an expert on kerning.

Most people - those with inferior pattern-recognition abilities - still require tiresome arguments of this sort

Posted by: at September 11, 2004 11:02 AM

What India needs to learn from US
JOSY JOSEPH

"America's 9/11 report, the most elaborate and exhaustive probe into the worst ever terror attack, has unwittingly filled a gaping hole in the study of the state of Pakistan. On the third 9/11 anniversary, Timesofindia.com takes a detailed look at the 585-page report and what it means to India.

It is definitely sensible to guess that America would try what it can to reassure Pakistan that they are much more than “allies of convenience”.

"That is not good news for India."

Posted by: What India needs to learn from US at September 11, 2004 11:05 AM

http://www.fuctards.com/
http://www.fuctards.com/JesusBombing.htm
The KING of The FucTards And the Minority Who Voted for Him

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http://demented-pixie.com/burning_bush/index.shtml

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http://www.electoral-vote.com/
New polls: CA CO OH NJ NC VA Sept. 10

Posted by: at September 11, 2004 11:09 AM

Saturday, September 11, 2004
September 11 and Its Aftermath

...

The attack on the World Trade Center was exactly analogous to Pearl Harbor. The Japanese generals had to neutralize the US fleet so that they could sweep into Southeast Asia and appropriate Indonesian petroleum. The US was going to cut off imperial Japan from petroleum, and without fuel the Japanese could not maintain their empire in China and Korea. So they pushed the US out of the way and took an alternative source of petroleum away from the Dutch (which then ruled what later became Indonesia).

Likewise, al-Qaeda was attempting to push the United States out of the Middle East so that Egypt, Jordan, Israel and Saudi Arabia would become more vulnerable to overthrow, lacking a superpower patron. Secondarily, the attack was conceived as revenge on the United States and American Jews for supporting Israel and the severe oppression of the Palestinians. Bin Laden wanted to move the timing of the operation up to spring of 2001 so as to "punish" the Israelis for their actions against the Palestinians in the second Intifadah. Khalid Shaikh Muhammad was mainly driven in planning the attack by his rage at Israel over the Palestinian issue. Another goal is to destroy the US economy, so weakening it that it cannot prevent the emergence of the Islamic superpower.

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http://www.juancole.com/

Posted by: at September 11, 2004 11:20 AM

Nothing will make us more safer than our neighbors having AK -47's

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Nothing will make us more safer than our neighbors having AK -47's

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Nothing will make us more safer than our neighbors having AK -47's

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Posted by: at September 11, 2004 11:34 AM

FIASCO IN FALLUJAH

Remember the decision back in April to withdraw U.S. forces from Fallujah and replace them with an all-Iraqi "Fallujah Protection Army"?

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2004_04/003807.php

Unsurprisingly, it didn't work:

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2004_04/003807.php
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"The Fallujah Brigade is done, over," said Marine Col. Jerry L. Durrant, who oversees the 1st Marine Expeditionary Unit's involvement with Iraqi security forces. "The whole Fallujah Brigade thing was a fiasco. Initially it worked out OK, but it wasn't a good idea for very long."

"....With the demise of the Fallujah Brigade, the Marines are left with no attractive options for rooting out Fallujah's entrenched insurgency, a movement that has spread to surrounding villages and left the interim Iraqi government without control of the nation's largest cities west of Baghdad, the capital.

"Thousands of Marines remain based as close as two miles from Fallujah, but the insurgents -- local and foreign fighters backed by firebrand Sunni Muslim clerics -- have had several months to dig in and make it more difficult for American or Iraqi government forces to launch a ground attack."
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It's increasingly clear that President Bush has no idea what to do in Iraq. He'd like to turn it into a democratic beacon for the Middle East, but he doesn't know how.

So all he can do is chant "stay the course" and hope that no one catches on to how bad things are on the ground before November 2.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2004_09/004671.php

Israel has infinitely better intelligence in the West Bank and Gaza Strip than we do in Iraq, and even so they haven't been able to halt the guerrilla warfare and suicide bombings there in 30 years of trying.

Increasingly, it looks like my worst fears

Posted by: at September 11, 2004 11:51 AM

FIASCO IN FALLUJAH

(concluded)

Increasingly, it looks like my worst fears are coming true and Iraq is becoming America's version of the West Bank: intractable, deadly, and accomplishing little except acting as a breeding ground for ever more terrorists.

Wrong war at the wrong time indeed.

—Kevin Drum

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/

Posted by: at September 11, 2004 11:52 AM

AIDS is not a single disease. There have been many definitions since 1978, but the most common problem is severely impaired energy metabolism which has multiple causes but can be classified as toxemia or intoxification. So called HIV is a set of cellular signals, not a replicating virus and doesn't "cause" anything. People die because their defensive cells no longer have the energy to eat, neutralize, etc normally harmless parasites and symbionts which assume a new, aggressive form because of the toximeia. It may be a premature activation of the "death" program in body's cells.

Posted by: Gene Semon at September 11, 2004 03:37 PM

AIDS -
If we were as critical of the medical industry as we are of the military - we'd find that what this guy talked about is the tip of the iceburg.

I want answers to these questions:
Why aren't HIV tests more accurate?
Why are HIV medications the same as chemotherapy drugs?
How can you rebuild the immune system at the same time you are destroying it?

Posted by: Sam S at September 11, 2004 08:34 PM

I'm disgusted.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=762&e=13&u=/ap/20040910/ap_on_re_us/dean_book

Posted by: Plasticsoul at September 11, 2004 11:13 PM

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