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August 22, 2004
quotes of the day
"I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun in order to get a deferment. Nor was I willing to go to Canada. So I chose to better myself by learning how to fly airplanes."
George Bush, Dallas Morning News, Feb. 25, 1990.
And here a few from his buddies...
Roy Hoffman, today: "John Kerry has not been honest."
Roy Hoffman, 2003: "I am not going to say anything negative about him — he's a good man."
Adrian Lonsdale, today: "He lacks the capacity to lead."
Adrian Lonsdale, 1996: "He was among the finest of those Swift boat drivers."
George Elliot, today: "John Kerry has not been honest about what happened in Vietnam."
George Elliot, 1996: "The fact that he chased an armed enemy down is something not to be looked down upon, but it was an act of courage."
Larry Thurlow, today: "...there was no hostile enemy fire directed at my boat or at any of the five boats operating on the river that day."
Larry Thurlow's Bronze Star citation, 1969: "...all units began receiving enemy small arms and automatic weapons fire from the river banks."
Dr. Louis Letson, today: "I know John Kerry is lying about his first Purple Heart because I treated him for that injury."
Medical records, 1968: "Dr. Letson's name does not appear on any of the medical records for Mr. Kerry. Under 'person administering treatment' for the injury, the form is signed by a medic, J. C. Carreon, who died several years ago."
Grant Hibbard, today: "He betrayed all his shipmates. He lied before the Senate."
Hibbard's evaluation of Kerry, 1968: "Mr. Hibbard gave Mr. Kerry the highest rating of 'one of the top few' in three categories—initiative, cooperation and personal behavior. He gave Mr. Kerry the second-best rating, 'above the majority,' in military bearing."
Posted by not sam at August 22, 2004 02:05 PM
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Those lying, whining blowhards!
John Kerry: Swift Boat Captain
George Bush: Shrimp Boat Drunk
Posted by: UncleSam at August 22, 2004 02:19 PM
Of course he wasn't gonna shoot out his eardrum.
He knew from the git-go his Daddy'd make sure he wasn't going to Nam.
Sheesh!
Posted by: cleo at August 22, 2004 02:19 PM
love love love
;}
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 02:23 PM
A presentation of the life, teachings, and public work of
Rev. Sun Myung Moon and his wife Mrs. Hak Ja Han Moon.
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 02:26 PM
Bush's 'compassion' for Southwest Florida: $2 million, a photo op,
and the federal Gestapo
By Wayne Madsen
Online Journal Contributing Writer
August 20, 2004—Floridians, many of them elderly, recently got a
taste of George W. Bush's infamous "compassion." Four days after
Hurricane Charley tore through southwestern Florida with 145 mile per
hour sustained winds, Bush's Federal Emergency Management Agency
(FEMA) was able to come up with only $2 million in emergency
assistance. And in an added touch of the Bush administration's
compassion, the American flag was raised at the main Punta Gorda post
office in a patriotic ceremony featuring the Pledge of Allegiance to
the flag. The out-of-place scene was as if the damage in Florida was
caused by a retaliatory attack by the remnants of Saddam Hussein's
forces or a sneak Russian or Chinese missile attack on southwestern
Florida.
http://onlinejournal.com/Commentary/082004Madsen/082004madsen.html
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 02:29 PM
These swift boats veteran ads are really pissing me off. It just proves how the right will argue either side of an issue just to smear their opponent. I mean can you imagine the outrage that would be coming from these guys if the roles were reversed and Bush was the decorated war hero? They’d be calling you an un-American piece of crap if you questioned his bravery. Instead we’re once again the bad guys because we’re questioning the veterans who never even served with Kerry, nice how that works.
Posted by: Lisa's Dad at August 22, 2004 02:30 PM
~~~ So I guess Darlene wouldn't have appreciated a little support from you, Fishgrease, her friend? ~~~
She got support from me. We email one another frequently. She didn't NEED my help with Nobody any more than I would need someone else's help to deal with you.
Darlene is my friend. Nobody is my friend. Neither would be so childish as to expect me to take sides. Both have courage. You, however, have obviously been running from fights your entire life.
Posted by: Fishgrease ![[TypeKey Profile Page]](../../..//nav-commenters.gif)
at August 22, 2004 02:31 PM
You call name, you lose".
Posted by: The Evil Twin at August 22, 2004 02:08 PM
i love that game!
i used to play that one with war dog
here's the trick
i am not calling you a dumbass...
i am not calling you a joke
i am not calling you a tool
"call me any name you like, i will never deny it"
--bob dylan, farwell angelina
farewell, angelina
Posted by: dadalux at August 22, 2004 02:31 PM
How Dick Cheney got away with $35 million just ahead of a government
probe into Halliburton
By Jason Leopold
Online Journal Assistant Editor
August 20, 2004—It's obvious that no mainstream news reporter has the
gumption to seriously question Vice President [sic] Dick Cheney's
ethics when he was chief executive of Halliburton, the oil-field
services company that is currently embroiled in a scandal with the
Pentagon due to its questionable accounting practices related to its
work in war-torn Iraq.
http://onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/082004Leopold/082004leopold.h
tml
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 02:32 PM
50.....50 U.S. Dead so far this month. 962 Total (we don't know how many of the many thousands maimed or despondent may have died of injuries in Germany or suicide at home)
To Compare;
............2003.........2004
March........65...........52
April........73..........135
May..........37...........80
June.........30...........42
July.........47...........54
August.......35...........50 (so far)
Really greeted us with flowers and candy haven't they?
http://icasualties.org/oif/default.aspx
Three years soon.....Where's Bin Laden tough guy?
Bush was a cheerleader at an all-boy's secluded school for the wealthy. His daddy went there where his nickname was "Lips"....ironic eh?
Here's the Bush history (mostly pre-imbecile) One can't help wonder what people were thinking when they let this wealth-toadying, war profiteering, pretentious, preening line of dullards reach high office.
http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm
At any time during the last four Bush generations one would be able to discern the contents of der uber-rich, like the Harriman's, meals by inspecting what was and is now their intestinal extensions, the Bush Family.
Posted by: Dutch Masters at August 22, 2004 02:25 PM
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 02:33 PM
Ok I will try again..Hi Pablo..Yes there is a lot of news out...I am getting behind..I tried to go cold turkey...*shaking hands* I just can't make it...I.. have.. to... read the news...Something sure has the sites hanging up eh?
What is going on here on the blog? When someone named evil twin is speaking on my behalf I may begin to worry...although I must say Fishy you could not have given a more perfect answer..:)
Troll dispersal anyone? This gets old.
Posted by: Darlenenbc at August 22, 2004 02:34 PM
If you were a real man you'd admit you could handled the situation with Will in Chicago.
---
says you
i admit nothing!!
hee hee
Posted by: dadalux at August 22, 2004 02:35 PM
I wonder where Sunny is today?
Posted by: Darlenenbc at August 22, 2004 02:35 PM
Nobody is my friend.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 02:27 PM
Then why did you post that you were glad that he was gone?
Checkmate
Goodbye
Posted by: The Evil Twin at August 22, 2004 02:39 PM
Bye!
:}
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 02:39 PM
Hello again Dar.
My confuser was acting up a little yesterday.
Maybe it happens in areas!!!
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 02:40 PM
Evil frank wanted to mess with our minds, cause a problem on the blog.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 02:41 PM
Hi Tonid..it just seems to be some sites..they cause my computer to freeze up..it just started doing it today..Maybe time for a good cleaning..don't cha hate that?
Posted by: Darlenenbc at August 22, 2004 02:42 PM
~~~ I wonder where Sunny is today? ~~~
I kept what he wrote about dogs and cats and such. The man is a poet with massive talent... secluded away in the body of an old fisherman who does body work and plays with his dogs.
Jim is a giant.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 02:42 PM
oops, guess my freud is showing, troll, er, twin
and you do know your sowing of discord only serves to make the bonds of friendship stronger, yes?
and i have no pity for your passive aggressive antics or the scorn you invoke upon yourself as a result
have a nice day
Posted by: dadalux at August 22, 2004 02:43 PM
Jim is a very fun and a gentle soul...sometimes it seems there are few really gentle people left...
Posted by: Darlenenbc at August 22, 2004 02:44 PM
If see you all in here much more I am going to have to start charging you rent!
How's everyone doing?
Posted by: UncleSam at August 22, 2004 02:45 PM
hey uncle sammy
bumpy ride today
better hold on to your red white and blue hat!
Posted by: dadalux at August 22, 2004 02:46 PM
Saudi heads for $35bn surplus
RIYADH: Saudi Arabia is headed for a budget surplus of as much as $35 billion this fiscal year, as it enjoys a revenue windfall with world crude prices hitting new highs, analysts said yesterday.
"We are currently revising our forecast. We believe the budget surplus might reach $35bn because of the record high oil prices," said Nahed Taher, chief economist at the Saudi National Commercial Bank (NCB).
The Opec kingpin has seen its oil receipts soar as world prices have neared $50 a barrel on the back of Iraq security fears.
NCB, the largest bank in the Middle East in terms of capital, forecast in early August that the kingdom would record a budget surplus of $14.9bn in the current fiscal year.
http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Story.asp?Article=89797&Sn=BUSI&IssueID=27155
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 02:47 PM
jim is an ol snortbutt!
(but thanks fer de compliments
i love u too)
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 02:48 PM
Hello there UncleSam how about bringing our boys home now...:)
You know if Bush were Smart..yes I know it is an oxymoron...But how much do you think he could boost his popularity if he brought the troops home? Would it make a difference?
Posted by: Darlenenbc at August 22, 2004 02:48 PM
~~~ Then why did you post that you were glad that he was gone? ~~~
Right now my Wife and Kids are gone... to SLC on a short trip. I couldn't be happier! Does that mean I don't love my Wife and Kids?
If Nobody were ever to stay gone I would miss him so much. You're just focusing on a single post of mine from a time when he'd pissed me off so bad I couldn't see straight... which he does regularly. But I love Nobody and he knows it well. See, again, Nobody has real courage. He is a brave man.
You? You're a frightened little bedwetting freak.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 02:49 PM
Oil production down during efforts to oust Chavez and contributed to prices go up,
Russia and OPEC also holding back oil
China & Japan using/needing more and more oil
Was $30 per barrel ha try $50 now
"In recent days, the cutoff of Venezuelan oil has caused world markets to tighten and crude prices to move above $30 a barrel. The price of light sweet crude was $30.85 a barrel yesterday on the New York Mercantile Exchange.
Several oil companies, including Houston-based Citco, the U.S.-based subsidiary of Venezuela’s government-owned oil company, reportedly have quietly urged the administration to tap the government reserve."
Will Venezuela oil production pick back up now? and will Chavez forgive those who tried to overturn his government? US indirectly causing these prices to escalate.
http://archive.columbiatribune.com/2002/Dec/20021219Busi008.asp
Not good for Houston-based Citco and American consumers
Good for World market... (OPEC)
Good for bUSh? maybe not
Americans vote with "what's in their wallets" on their mind.
Posted by: pablo at August 22, 2004 02:51 PM
Terrorist hide-outs attacked
ISLAMABAD: Pakistani troops backed by artillery and aircraft attacked two suspected terrorist hide-outs near the rugged Afghan border yesterday, killing and wounding a number of militants, Pakistan army and security officials said.
The attack was launched near Shakai in the South Waziristan tribal region, scene of several military counterterrorism operations against Al Qaeda fugitives and renegade tribesmen in the recent months.
Pakistan army spokesman Maj Gen Shaukat Sultan told state-run television that its troops had "killed and wounded some foreign miscreants" yesterday in an exchange of fire near Shakai, but gave no further details.
http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Story.asp?Article=89870&Sn=WORL&IssueID=27155
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 02:52 PM
Okay... time to re-post some stuff that will bore everyone to tears... but that I'm proud of, for whatever reason.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 02:53 PM
Hi Jim, All true stuff!!
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 02:54 PM
If I had a Wonkavision set i'd bring the boys back hoe NOW!
It's bizarre isn't it.
Tens of thousands of lives lost and ruined, hundreds of billions of dollars to destroy a second world country even further.
Just think what a water supply and irrigation system Dick Cheney could have set up for that kind of cash.
Posted by: UncleSam at August 22, 2004 02:54 PM
Just ignore them Fishy..it is a waste of energy..
Yes some repost would be nice...:)
Posted by: Darlenenbc at August 22, 2004 02:54 PM
Hello there UncleSam how about bringing our boys home now...:)
You know if Bush were Smart..yes I know it is an oxymoron...But how much do you think he could boost his popularity if he brought the troops home? Would it make a difference?
Posted by: Darlenenbc at August 22, 2004 02:48 PM
i think it would kill much of the support he does have. some of it, anyway, and he can't afford to lose any.
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 02:55 PM
Howdy folks,
Ya know ... sometimes this blog reminds me of summer camp ...
[nik sticks out his tongue]
naaa!
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 02:55 PM
eya FG
i'm cuttin cd's
of my web article Archives
want one? 13000 or so indexed by topic?
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 02:55 PM
You rock FishG! Don't let the bums kick you twice.
Posted by: UncleSam at August 22, 2004 02:56 PM
my web article Archives
want one? 13000 or so indexed by topic?
Posted by Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 02:55 PM
I already have it Fish...good stuff :)
Hi Nik..*blows kiss*
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 02:58 PM
Hey - y'all remember my post from a few days ago I saidthat there was this Anti-Same-Sex petitioner outside of my local foodstore? Well, I complained to the store and look what they sent me:
_________________________________________________
Sir,
My name is Dan Galway, Store Manager at the Bowling Green
Kroger store. I
received your letter pertaining to the incident that
transpired in our
parking lot.
First of all, we do not allow anyone to collect signatures
on our property.
The police were called twice to remove this person from our
premises. We
can not and do not side with any political organization or
group.
It was unfortunate that you had to deal with this
individual, but rest
assured , he did not have permission to collect signatures
on our property
and was asked to leave as soon as we were aware of his
presence.
If I can be of any further assistance, please call me at
419-353-3919.
Dan Galway
_________________________________________________
I love CustomerCare feedback forms and blog action. Thanks to all who posted!
Posted by: UncleSam at August 22, 2004 02:58 PM
Jim...
Yes! Have I sent you my address?
I will, from work tomorrow.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 02:58 PM
That was me..grrrr
Posted by: Darlenenbc at August 22, 2004 02:58 PM
want one? 13000 or so indexed by topic?
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 02:55 PM
sorry to butt in jim ... but did you copy paste'em or just save the link? ... cause if you got the content I would sure be envious ... [nudge, wink]
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 02:58 PM
Eya NEP
neener neeeener neeenerrrrr!
crosses eyes while doing same!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 02:59 PM
#11. Abridge not and ye shall not be abridged.
Posted by: UncleSam at August 22, 2004 03:00 PM
That was me..grrrr
Posted by: Darlenenbc at August 22, 2004 02:58 PM
we figured .. tiger
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 03:00 PM
Uncle Sam,
~~~ Don't let the bums kick you twice ~~~
I AM a bum... didn't you hear my song last night?
http://www.fishmanifesto.com/TrogRant.mp3
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 03:01 PM
I'm Back
Nobody has real courage. He is a brave man.
You? You're a frightened little bedwetting freak.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 02:49 PM
"Take your meds, Shelly"
"What did they call you, Shelly? Bi-polar or Manic depressive"
Yeah, a real man picks on a woman who was obviously going through some hard time.
If he's what a man should be, God help us all.
Posted by: The Evil Twin at August 22, 2004 03:01 PM
nep
saved to text with the link at the top,
send me address and i'll send one along.
workin on getting access to somewhere to
post the whole archive (less than a gig)
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 03:03 PM
Its kinda like Dr. Evil .... no wait! ... its more like mini-me! ... hehe ...
[nik puts pinky on his lips]
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 03:04 PM
[continues to fling crap]
Posted by: The Evil Twin at August 22, 2004 03:05 PM
Hey, Nobody goes overboard sometimes. Don't expect me to stick up for everything he's ever posted here because I can't and won't. Families say horrid things to one another. Why does it concern you so?
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 03:05 PM
Hello everyone!
UncleSam you still there?
Posted by: Great American Patriot at August 22, 2004 03:06 PM
Cut-and-Paste Propaganda Infiltrates Opinion Pages
By Paul Farhi
Sunday, August 22, 2004; Page A06
Reader, beware! Some of America's newspapers have become unwitting conduits for campaign propaganda.
Thanks to some nifty Internet technology, the campaigns of President Bush and John F. Kerry are making it easy for their supporters to pass off the campaigns' talking points as just another concerned citizen's opinion. Pro-Bush or pro-Kerry letters bearing identical language are flooding letters-to-the-editor columns.
The Democrat and Chronicle in Rochester, N.Y., for example, ran a letter last month from a local reader that stated, "New-job figures and other recent economic data show that America's economy is strong and getting stronger, and that the president's jobs and growth plan is working."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A22539-2004Aug21.html?nav=hcmodule
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 03:07 PM
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 03:08 PM
eya Gpr
afternoon!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 03:09 PM
Hey, Nobody goes overboard sometimes.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 03:05 PM
That's not going overboard, that's being cruel.
"You found you could control men with sex, Shelly"
Let me guess? You're going to call me a coward?
Posted by: The Evil Twin at August 22, 2004 03:09 PM
it seems shelly and n got along fine after that one, evil troll
Posted by: dadalux at August 22, 2004 03:10 PM
eya Gpr
afternoon!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 03:09 PM
This is a real man
Posted by: The Evil Twin at August 22, 2004 03:10 PM
>I AM a bum... didn't you hear my song last night?
http://www.fishmanifesto.com/TrogRant.mp3
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 03:01 PM>
How big a mp3 file is that Fish?
Posted by: GAP at August 22, 2004 03:10 PM
"You found you could control men with sex, Shelly"
Posted by: The Evil Twin at August 22, 2004 03:09 PM
[nik show mini-me his leg] huh? how about now?
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 03:12 PM
it seems shelly and n got along fine after that one, evil troll
Posted by: dadalux at August 22, 2004 03:10 PM
Go ahead and rationalize your own inaction, Dada.
Posted by: The Evil Twin at August 22, 2004 03:12 PM
For those that missed it this morning:
*U.S. Military Launches Attack Outside Najaf Shrine*
Sunday, August 22, 2004 Posted:1:46 PM EDT
NAJAF, Iraq (CNN) -- U.S. forces attacked Mehdi Army positions outside the Imam Ali Mosque in Najaf on Sunday, as Iraq reported at least 56 Iraqis have been killed throughout the nation in a 24-hour period.
In addition to those killed in fighting from 9 a.m. Saturday to the same time Sunday, Iraq's Ministry of Health reported 50 Iraqis were wounded.
In Najaf, where the most deadly fighting raged, 49 Iraqis were killed and 27 wounded, Iraq's Ministry of Health reported.
Explosions lit up the sky over the city shortly after midnight (4 p.m. Saturday ET.)
The health ministry did not say how many of the dead were civilians or Mehdi fighters, who are loyal to radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, but U.S. military officials estimated 30 of them were Mehdi fighters.
Those U.S. officials said there were no U.S. casualties.
U.S. troops and warplanes pounded Mehdi Army positions outside the mosque early Sunday, U.S. military officials said. Forces had traded sporadic gunfire all day Saturday.
U.S. military officials said their troops were backed by tanks and fire from AC-130 aerial gunships.
Posted by: GAP at August 22, 2004 03:13 PM
This is a real man
Posted by: The Evil Twin at August 22, 2004 03:10 PM
[gene wilder voice] ... better watch out Jim, I think mini-me has taken a fancy to ya ...
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 03:13 PM
Ignore the evil troll
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 03:14 PM
hey jim i bet if you have it posted somewhere, lots and lotsa folks would check it out
Posted by: dadalux at August 22, 2004 03:15 PM
It's pretty small as sound files go, Gapper... but still... seriously... pretty bad and not worth downloading over a slow connection.
Those with slow connections are advised to listen to a sick bull trying to get out of a bog as the sounds are similar.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 03:15 PM
lon chaney
wuzz my favorite
evil guy
http://www.lonchaney.com/images/wmmain.jpg
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 03:15 PM
You dudes have a good night
I shall pass out some anti-high-bloogpressure pills tomorrow.
And I am off to bed (whaddaya want, it's 22:15 and I'm tired as shit)
Posted by: RedRubin at August 22, 2004 03:15 PM
Professor Juan Cole posted early this morning - Sunday, August 22, 2004
*Continued Violence in Iraq*
Major violence wracked Najaf again on Saturday. Mahdi militiamen launched mortar shells at US military positions, and they fired back, starting a battle that lasted for about 45 minutes. AC-130s fired their cannons at Mahdi Army positions in the sacred Valley of Peace cemetery near the holy shrine of Ali.
There did not actually seem to be much progress in the supposed turning over of the Shrine of Ali to representatives of Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani. They insisted that the Mahdi Army fighters vacate the shrine first. The latter seem to have no intention of actually leaving in greater numbers than they already have. Al-Jazeerah says that one of Muqtada's spokesmen said that even after the "handover," the Mahdi Army fighters expected to continue to "guard" the shrine.
Comparing the al-Hayat account with the Los Angeles Times article by David Holley and Edmund Sanders (Sanders is embedded in Najaf) shows the difference in information and sensibility between what is reported in the Western press and what appears in Arabic.
Al-Hayat writes that "the fighting extended to Kufa, where American missiles struck the historic Mosque of Maytham al-Tammar, destroying part of it." - full sunday post at:
Posted by: GAP at August 22, 2004 03:17 PM
I was talkig to someone Great American Patriot.
Wazzzup!
Posted by: UncleSam at August 22, 2004 03:18 PM
Fish,
Here is another picture for you from Iraq.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/3588464.stm
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 03:19 PM
backed by tanks and fire from AC-130 aerial gunships.
Posted by: GAP at August 22, 2004 03:13 PM
can I assume you folks have seen the videos from this thing in operation? ...
http://www.factsofisrael.com/blog/archives/000560.html
the little white dots are human beings
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 03:19 PM
Evening RR
goodnight and pleasant dreams!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 03:20 PM
And I am off to bed (whaddaya want, it's 22:15 and I'm tired as shit)
Posted by: RedRubin at August 22, 2004 03:15 PM
wait!
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 03:20 PM
Night Red in Israel!
Have a good first day on the job tomorrow :)
Posted by: GAP at August 22, 2004 03:21 PM
Wassup, nik?
Posted by: RedRubin at August 22, 2004 03:21 PM
Good Nite to you REd Rubin!!!
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 03:21 PM
inaction?
you must mean like wu-wei...non-doing, effortless action
--
perhaps you don't understand the chemistry between personality types evil,
sometimes you get combustion
thats all...
fung used to remind me of gollum
you're reminding me of grima wormtongue
Posted by: dadalux at August 22, 2004 03:21 PM
http://store1.yimg.com/I/moviegoodsusa-store_1805_19877465
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 03:22 PM
Just how bad is that video Nik?
Posted by: Darlenenbc at August 22, 2004 03:22 PM
hey red
see you then
Posted by: dadalux at August 22, 2004 03:23 PM
Nighty night Redrubin :)
Posted by: Darlenenbc at August 22, 2004 03:23 PM
Here is another picture for you from Iraq.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 03:19 PM
ya know ... I think the coke swilling, survivor watching masses of this country have a hard time relating to photos from Iraq ...
Perhaps if the women wore outfits like in Batwatch ... and the kids dressed like N'sync ... huh?
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 03:24 PM
>http://www.lonchaney.com/images/wmmain.jpg
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 03:15 PM>
You had a nice trim on your beard in that one Jimmy but you seemed a little out of sorts. ;)
That makeup man was semi-famous, forgot who he was at the moment. They had a exhibit of his work in Chicago earlier this year.
Posted by: GAP at August 22, 2004 03:24 PM
Wassup, nik?
Posted by: RedRubin at August 22, 2004 03:21 PM
[gilda radner voice] nevermind ... just wanted to say adios ...
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 03:25 PM
Just how bad is that video Nik?
Posted by: Darlenenbc at August 22, 2004 03:22 PM
its just a peek ... it makes me sick anyway ... mostly for the commentary ...
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 03:26 PM
the little white dots are human beings
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 03:19 PM
Nik, I can watch all the movie bombing with no problem.
That really bothered me. I don't know if I could do that. Maybe if someone was in my face threatening me, but I couldn't do that!!
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 03:27 PM
Well this has been an interesting blog to read...
Evil twin...if you're done talking behind my back would you care to face me directly so that I may answer your charges?
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 03:27 PM
http://www.factsofisrael.com/en/images/articles/ac130-gunship2.jpg
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 03:28 PM
Great Post toni, this followup and mining for info stuff is fun especially when u have an army like MRR blog.
Palast got that story out only one day after the election.
Land redistribution and profit sharing will piss off the Jaugar men and Phillips/Conoco and Cheney (Powerful Interests) every time.
Now there's an issue.
Phillips/Conoco your play.
http://onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/081604Palast/081604palast.html
Posted by: pablo at August 22, 2004 03:28 PM
The journalist that was kidnapped in Iraq that had reported on the looting of the Iraqi Archeology sites was freed today.
His sister had directly appealed to Al Sadr and he put the word out that he should be released.
Posted by: GAP at August 22, 2004 03:29 PM
uh-oh ... Nobody's here ...
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 03:29 PM
Yeah! N is here..:)
Posted by: Darlenenbc at August 22, 2004 03:30 PM
lol
And I was thinking you had some new super-secret photos of a nuke facility in Israel, nik... ;)
but adios from you is lovely as well :D
have a good day nik, jim, dar, dada, gap, toni and anyone else I'd forgotten
hey, next time you guys see me, will you remind me to bitch about the likud and the avoda and the goddamn motherfucking security dudes on the bus?
Otherwise I'll forget and then I'll be all pissy.
And when I'm pissy... well... you know... lets just say if I weren't a pussy, I could do some serious damage.
Posted by: RedRubin at August 22, 2004 03:30 PM
That really bothered me.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 03:27 PM
Me too ... it weird what gets to you ...
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 03:30 PM
They have those buildings in their site and are told do not engage, fly around a little and then they engage the vehicle.
Shudders!!!!
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 03:31 PM
Afternoon Nobody! how is the pacific northwest this morning?
Posted by: GAP at August 22, 2004 03:32 PM
I could do some serious damage.
Posted by: RedRubin at August 22, 2004 03:30 PM
you crack me up ... that counts!
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 03:33 PM
Afternoon Nobody!!
Were you on the last thread?
Lots of info and lits of nonsense!!!
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 03:33 PM
Yeah, I do the cracking.
You could call me a... cracker?
umm, nope, no good.
Posted by: RedRubin at August 22, 2004 03:34 PM
Afternoon Darlene! Happy Sunday :)
How are you feeling?
Posted by: GAP at August 22, 2004 03:35 PM
Me too ... it weird what gets to you ...
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 03:30 PM
Just like those pictures of the Iraqi kids...makes you want to hold tight to your own kids.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 03:35 PM
vehicle.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 03:31 PM
the sequence that bothered me most was ...
1. "there's a person running ... get'em"
2. dust trails from gun leading white dot which stops
3. yeah!
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 03:37 PM
Toni,
I cry. Shame on George W. Bush and those who support him. Can these poor people ever forgive the United States of America?
We satisfy our endless needs and
Justify our bloody deeds,
In the name of destiny and the name
Of God
-- Last Resort -- Eagles
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 03:37 PM
The Iraqi interim government did not exactly have long in power before it had to face its first crisis.
It took over at the end of June. By early August, gunmen had control of the centre of Najaf, challenging the very authority of Iraq's new rulers.
Allawi has not been able to solve the crisis
Iraq's interim Prime Minister, Iyad Allawi went down to Najaf, and told the gunmen to disarm.
At the country's national conference in Baghdad delegates decided to send a group south to talk to Moqtada Sadr.
Last Thursday, Mr Allawi went on television and told the cleric he was being given a final chance to disarm and join the political process.
As the rhetoric increased so too did the military pressure on Mr Sadr's men. A large number of US tanks and soldiers moved into Sadr strongholds in Najaf and Baghdad.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3585704.stm
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 03:38 PM
>Afternoon Nobody!!
Were you on the last thread?
Lots of info and lits of nonsense!!!
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 03:33 PM>
Nonsense on this blog??
I'm shocked and also outraged at the outrage!
;)
Posted by: GAP at August 22, 2004 03:38 PM
Anyway, I am going to bed now, before I pass out.
Ciao all (also nobody, the dude)
Posted by: RedRubin at August 22, 2004 03:39 PM
You could call me a... cracker?
Posted by: RedRubin at August 22, 2004 03:34 PM
A bi-sexual cracker? You put chese on both sides?
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 03:40 PM
when we started
as kids there was'nt
much on makeup for monsters
but as we explored we found others
doin monster makeup and finally
the fan mags came out. LC Sr.
is a patron saint of all
us monster face makers.
Haida masks look way
incredible to me!
Exerpt:
"Chaney's obsession with physical deformity reached its apex early, with The Hunchback of Notre Dame (1923). Here the actor goes from anti-hero to practically anti-human, with hideous facial make-up and a fake hump contorting his body so badly that he could only work a few hours at a time. This is not to say the actor was simply the armless/legless wonder of the movies; he was also a brilliant actor, his early (forced) "training" in a family of invalids paying off in a series of vivid characterizations. Chaney's settings were usually exotic, (Mr. Wu), criminal (The Black Bird, While the City Sleeps), carnival (The Unknown), even opera house (Phantom of the Opera), but always a lurid netherworld that shocked audiences and provided an appropriately bizarre background for the actor."
http://www.brightlightsfilm.com/15/chaney.html
see this is where the empathy begins.
u realize we all have monsters inside.
some are gentle quirky monsters that
are endearing, some casually create
great evil then go off to play golf
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 03:40 PM
I find it rather telling when those that profess that I'm evil, mean and hateful spend hours upon end attacking me when it's impossible for me to have done any real harm to them.
Tes I asked those questions of Shelly and I was very interested in those answers. If you remember correctly there was a time when Shelly completey disrupted the blog for everyone.
If perhaps I had gotten answers to my questions I could of provided some surcease to her pain with my words.
The very idea that my every word seems laden with vitriol and hate to you people saddens me beyond belief.
Look inside yourself for your answers because you can not see the emotions that drive my words. You can not attribute me with foul intent when I mean none.
And evil twin I do know that you attack me because you see me as attacking your ally, your friend, which btw I have not.
You are angry with me only because I disagreed with you. you are angry with me because you aren't getting the attention you feel that you deserve.
Finally you can kiss my ass because I will not suffer for the benefit of anyone who decides it necessary to punish me for their own lack of depth.
Please step up and face me...I would appreciate it dearly...Yes that would be good.
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 03:40 PM
** Kidnapped Journalist Freed In Iraq **
Sunday, August 22, 2004 Posted:3:14 PM EDT
NAJAF, Iraq (CNN) -- French-American journalist Micah Garen was released Sunday in Nasiriya, Iraq, after being kidnapped more than a week ago.
Garen, 36, was kidnapped along with his Iraqi translator, Amir Doshe, in a busy Nasiriya market on August 13.
Garen was interviewed on the Arabic-language television network Al-Jazeera Sunday, and said he had been well treated during his captivity.
In a videotape that aired Wednesday on the Al-Jazeera, a group calling itself the Martyrs Brigade displayed Garen for cameras and threatened to kill him within 48 hours if Americans do not leave Najaf. Fighters loyal to radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr have been battling Iraqi and U.S. forces around the Imam Ali Mosque for two weeks.
Fighting continued on Sunday outside the Najaf mosque amid negotiations between al-Sadr followers and Shiite leaders to end the fighting and turn the mosque over to the Shiite religious authorities. Shiite leaders were to visit the site on Sunday... full story at:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/08/22/iraq.main/index.html
Posted by: GAP at August 22, 2004 03:41 PM
A bi-sexual cracker? You put chese on both sides?
Posted by Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 03:40 PM
Low fat cheese, yes.
A little more on one side though...
Unequally spread low fat kosher cheese on me, the cracker.
Yes?
Posted by: RedRubin at August 22, 2004 03:41 PM
As the rhetoric increased so too did the military pressure on Mr Sadr's men. A large number of US tanks and soldiers moved into Sadr strongholds in Najaf and Baghdad.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 03:38 PM
hehe ... hey tonid ... did you notice Alawi was makin th "loser sign"?
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40329000/jpg/_40329489_allawi203ap.jpg
what a maroon!
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 03:42 PM
Sleep well, Rubin!
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 03:43 PM
Q&A: Sharon-Peres coalition talks
A deal could give a stable cabinet for Sharon (r), and a major post for Peres
Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has asked veteran opposition leader Shimon Peres to join his shaky coalition - an alliance that could give a strong boost to Israel's planned withdrawal from the Gaza Strip.
The BBC's Barbara Plett in Jerusalem looks at some of the key issues involved
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3888517.stm
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 03:44 PM
I read every word on every thread...It's cool and wet today after a bit of a freakish storm last night...rather pleasant after the dull dry heat of the last week or so...
I'm way behind in gathering my own news clipping so I have none to offer...I'm still moving on my own power...that's about all that I can say for myself...
Forgive me for missing the hellos and goodbyes Red...tomorrow ;)
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 03:44 PM
... low fat kosher cheese ...
Posted by: RedRubin at August 22, 2004 03:41 PM
hehehe ... damn ... that does not sound terribly yummy ... but hey ... k-serra serra ....
speaking of food ... I found some tofu in the back of the fridge ... what does tofu look like when it goes bad?
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 03:45 PM
The Swift boat cretins were to quickly and easily shot down that I wonder why it's still even being entertained as a subject.
On a different note - admins, have you ever thought of using vBulletin for the blog, or something like that?
Posted by: Yentz at August 22, 2004 03:45 PM
Hi GAP sorry I am slow today...it is a nice reading day....cloudy and overcast :) I am wrapped in my favorite sweater with a cup of tea.. :)
How are you?
Posted by: Darlenenbc at August 22, 2004 03:46 PM
Nobody,
When it counts, you know we got yer 6.
You hardheaded shit.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 03:47 PM
I've had tofu that's gone bad.
It smelled terrible and looked sorta... umm... well, it just changed colour to something more yellowish.
I'd rather not think about that.
ok, I swear, I really am going, I'm annoying myself here.
Goodnight!
(and no worries, nobody)
Posted by: RedRubin at August 22, 2004 03:49 PM
what a maroon!
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 03:42 PM
Didn't notice that but you are right!!!
He he we should keep that picture for future use.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 03:49 PM
TWO SOLDIERS
by DAN BAUM
How the dead come home.
As a unit of the élite 82nd Airborne Division, Bravo Company found itself in some of the fiercest fighting last year during the advance on Baghdad. Its hundred-and-thirty-odd paratroopers are among the Army’s best-trained and best-equipped soldiers, and none died during formal hostilities. The dying came later, after President Bush declared the mission accomplished.
MORE ---> http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?040809fa_fact1
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 03:51 PM
~And evil twin I do know that you attack me because you see me as attacking your ally, your friend, which btw I have not.~
Are you sure it's not just a troll being a shit?
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 03:51 PM
from the above New Yorker piece linked above .....
The Seidens had just returned from errands at around four o’clock in the afternoon on January 2nd—midnight in Baghdad—when the doorbell rang. Gail was upstairs; Jack opened the door to find two officers in dress uniform—a woman and a man with a silver cross pinned to his collar. “Are you Jack Seiden, father of Specialist Marc Seiden?” the woman asked. “I have an important message to deliver from the Secretary of the Army. May I come in, Mr. Seiden?” In shock, Jack refused. “We’d been told if one person comes to the door, he’s wounded; if two people come, he’s dead,” Jack told me. “I thought, If I don’t let them in then it can’t be happening. But she kept saying, ‘Mr. Seiden, we have to come in, we have to come in.’ She was crying.” Jack backed away, yelling for Gail. From the top of the stairs, Gail saw a pair of uniformed legs and thought, Marc’s home early! As she ran down the stairs, she saw the second pair of legs.
The woman introduced herself as an officer from Fort Dix, New Jersey. “The Secretary of the Army has asked me to express his deep regret that your son Marc was killed in action in Iraq on January 2nd,” she said. “The Secretary extends his deepest sympathy to you and your family in your tragic loss.”
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 03:52 PM
what does tofu look like when it goes bad?
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 03:45 PM
---------------------
Same as it looks when it is good: Like cheap caulk.
Posted by: Crank Bait at August 22, 2004 03:52 PM
The Secretary of the Army has asked me to express his deep regret that our country has been abducted by madmen who continue to shovel bright young soldiers into the boiler of war for no othe reason than to keep it going. The Secretary extends his deepest sympathy to you and your family and asks if you have any more children we can have or if not, perhaps you might like to go to Iraq yourself because lets face it we're just flat fucking running out of people what with all the dead and horribly injured that get to come home every month. Anyway, think about it. Keep us in mind.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 03:52 PM
Oh... and The Secretary of the Army adds...
Cheers!!!
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 03:53 PM
Jim don't forget the Makeup Master that helped Lon Chaney
Time for some Kauai coffee here.
Have a good afternoon fine folks.
Good story on Steve Earle today, I'll post it
Don't forget the premiere of his new AAR show
'The Revolution Starts Now' at 10 PM Eastern right after Laura Flanders.
The Revolution Starts Now
Steve Earle -- song writer, country music icon and protest singer -- premiers his show on Air America Sunday at 10PM. Steve’s first guests will be director John Sayles and Bobby Muller, President of Vietnam Veterans of America Foundation. For a flavor of where Earle is coming from check out the liner notes for his new album:
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0810-15.htm
Posted by: GAP at August 22, 2004 03:53 PM
Hello, The Secretary of the Army again! Just checking back on that whole Iraq thing. Did you find any more kids? You got any nieces or nephews? Cause its not so much Iraq this time but Iran we're starting to worry about. Can we count on your support this November? So that your Son or Daughter might not have died in vein? Because see... The Secretary of the Army has just learned that there are several people in foreign lands who do not yet completely hate our fucking guts yet. The Secretary of the Army wants to know if you have anything cold to drink in the fridge. Its hot out here today.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 03:53 PM
have you ever thought of using vBulletin for the blog, or something like that?
Posted by: Yentz at August 22, 2004 03:45 PM
Its best to make suggestions when sam is around ... he's pretty quick with stuff ...
And I'll see your vBulletin and raise you a FUDForum ...
What's the fun of blogging if you can't YENTZ a little? ... eh?
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 03:54 PM
Hi, The Secretary of The Army again! How are you today! Oooooh, cupcakes! You just finish frosting those?
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 03:54 PM
"Any president has the ability to totally dictate the agenda of the race," says Scott Reed, who managed Bob Dole's 1996 campaign against President Clinton. "[Bush] has dominated the issues that are being discussed, and caused Kerry and Edwards to react to headlines."
Democrats concede that, between news-dominating events like the hurricane and the Olympics, and the build up to the GOP convention, the past few weeks have been more challenging for Kerry.
Still, they argue that Bush's incumbency will ultimately prove more of a disadvantage than an advantage. While the president may have an easier time getting coverage, he also can't distance himself from negative events. Moreover, any race involving a sitting president tends to revolve around that president's record - which Democrats say is riddled with problems for Bush, on everything from the economy to Iraq.
"Ultimately, when you're the incumbent ... the race is about you," says David Axelrod, a Democratic strategist. "There are great advantages to incumbency, and we've seen some of them in the past few days. But there are also great disadvantages to incumbency when you have major failures on your hands."
Certainly, Bush's incumbency hasn't produced a clear boost in the polls so far: His job-approval ratings have been hovering at or just below 50 percent, the danger zone for a sitting president. History suggests that presidents often have a harder time winning over undecided voters - who typically break in favor of the challenger. And most polls currently show Kerry with a slim lead overall.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0820/p01s03-uspo.html
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 03:55 PM
Goodnight!
Posted by: RedRubin at August 22, 2004 03:49 PM
sleep tight Rub-in ... and please do not respond to this last response of the response!
goodnight ... hehehe got the last word!
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 03:57 PM
Boiler of Iraq
Keep shoveling soldiers fast
Gotta keep it hot!
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 03:57 PM
"Yours for the motherfuckin’ revolution,"
Steve Earle
Fairview, Tennessee
May 2004
"For Johnny Cash and Warren Zevon — See you when I get there, brothers."
Posted by: GAP at August 22, 2004 03:59 PM
eya N
it's quite a story is'nt it?
this lil bloggie fulla family is
a real wonder is'nt it?
# 664, # 666 up soon!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 03:59 PM
I don't know this evil twin... N Don't get sucked in please..it is useless energy spent dealing with them, him, her,.....I would prefer to scatter and find another news story than deal with such BS..
~And evil twin I do know that you attack me because you see me as attacking your ally, your friend, which btw I have not.~
I talk to a lot of people in e-mails but NONE of them would ever say things like this person has posted...there is a troll playing..can't we just ignore them?
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 03:59 PM
Destruction of the Imam Ali Shrine: Part of the Bushcon plan for
total war
By Kurt Nimmo
Online Journal Contributing Writer
August 16, 2004—In May, Bushcon swami Bill Kristol declared that
slaughtering large numbers of Iraqis "would be respected by Sunnis,
Shiites and Kurds alike . . . Moqtada Sadr's militia must be rendered
powerless. This will have to be accomplished primarily by American
and British military power." And so it is, although "respect" is
obviously not in the mix. In fact, if anything, Bush's ill-advised
invasion of Najaf and other Shi'ite cities in southern Iraq—and the
possible assassination of Mehdi Army leader Moqtada al-Sadr—will
"cause reverberations from Iran to Lebanon to Pakistan," as Youssef
Ibrahim, a former New York Times correspondent, warns.
http://onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/081604Nimmo/081604nimmo.html
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 04:01 PM
"Steve Earle's contributions to the world are not limited to the arts. He works with The Journey of Hope...from Violence to Healing (an organization led by murder victim family members that conducts public education speaking tours and addresses alternatives to the death penalty), the Citizens United for Alternatives to the Death Penalty, the Abolitionist Action Committee, the Tennessee Coalition to Abolish State Killing and Amnesty International. In addition to his abolitionist work, he is active with the Vietnam Veterans' Campaign for a Landmine Free World and the Kensington Welfare Rights Union."
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 04:01 PM
hey n, i really love that mother wolf thing
have you seen princess mononoke? Very popular movie, based on a very old tale
http://lavender.fortunecity.com/attenborough/487/monopics/poster.gif
she was raised by mother wolf
http://www26.brinkster.com/tatara/gods.htm
---
we were talking about ragnarok, the norse twilight of the gods last night at some point...when Fenrir the wolf and her friends midgard serpent and some fire giants or something end the world as we know it
i suggest, maybe if the gods get ragnarok'd, the apocalypse wont happen!
Posted by: dadalux at August 22, 2004 04:01 PM
"Are you sure it's not just a troll being a shit?"
I'm positive of it because I know when it began...The modus operandi is also telling...the type of attack they made is in response to something I said that I was going to do.
You can not push me, shove me, shout me down, campign to create alliances against me or manipulate me ion any way, shape or form. I am not someone that can be controlled.
All that you can do is reason with me.
I've been online since before there was even such a thing as html. I've seen every god damned game in the book. I've spent years administering live chatrooms, games, etc etc...
None of this is new to me...It's all very old.
The largest chatroom I managed was 1500 people at a time with over 6000 regular personalities...Challenge? ;)
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 04:02 PM
U.S. military officers who lie for political reasons should be striped of their rank and forfeit all benefits and honors. After all, they are bound by a code of honor...
Posted by: the Society for the Preservation of Radical Poets and Toothless Bohemians at August 22, 2004 04:02 PM
Not Sam that was such an amazing post.
Posted by: barb at August 22, 2004 04:04 PM
Olympic Boxing on!!!!! REAL MEN!!!
But I gotta clean carpet or FishWife will gimmee an uppercut when she get home.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 04:04 PM
The largest chatroom I managed was 1500 people at a time with over 6000 regular personalities...Challenge? ;)
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 04:02 PM
I once ate 28 pieces of KFC in one sitting! With fries!
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 04:05 PM
"Werewolves Of London" - Warren Zevon
Posted by: GAP at August 22, 2004 04:06 PM
Challenge me...bout the only thing that scares me personally is a hungry bear and unless you got one of those that you can inject into the blog don't even bother ;)
Dada, the "apocalypse" is something that's lived in the gestalt for a very long time...
Changing the direction of the herd is difficult you have to look far ahead and nudge a little here and a little there...
You also have to sometimes stand in front of it and face it with horns lowered...
That is just the way that it is.
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 04:06 PM
~~~ I once ate 28 pieces of KFC in one sitting! With fries! ~~~
Braggart!
*burp*
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 04:06 PM
The FBI man again
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 04:07 PM
Nik...that's fucking amazing...how the hell did you stuff all that down? I'm a big eater mind you but that coating swells up to a veritable block of styrofoam once it hits your gut...
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 04:07 PM
The American Games
Musings
Second gold medal not likely
for South Korea
Let's ask the heartland:
When the game is over, it's over
say's Mr. Father Midwest integrity
Yeah, right.
Scott Hamilton, where is your outrage?
And Every American truck driver agreed
Oh, my bad
Sale and Pelletier were Canadians
Pandora! Pandora!
The powerful giveth and taketh away
Nothing for Germany
after winning Gold for the horses;
Unites States, Britain, France:
you are now the real medalists,
sayeth CAS
While Apollo Ohno grins
somewhere
Nothing would lift their
spirits more than winning
a medal
Iraq
Cinderella soccer
*fingers *crossed*
Volley ball, take a hike!
Phelpmania finally will
thankfully -
while I dream of Gary's hair ;)
Posted by: bridge at August 22, 2004 04:08 PM
Published on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 by CommonDreams.org
The Revolution Starts...Now
by Steve Earle
Here's an excerpt from the liner notes of singer, songwriter and activist Steve Earle's new record due out August 24th on Artemis Records. It's called "The Revolution Starts...Now"
"The word “immediate” best describes the atmosphere around the studio as this record was being made in the late spring of 2004. The prisoner abuse scandal had just broken and the Bush administration, still reeling from the 9/11 commission hearings, was circling the wagons. The Democrats, for their part, were carefully (sometimes, in my opinion, too carefully) trying to sort out how best to press the advantage. Meanwhile, back here in Tennessee, me and my boys had a deadline to meet.
Steve Earle
The most important presidential election of our lifetime was less than seven months away and we desperately wanted to weigh in, both as artists and as citizens of a democracy. All but two of these songs were recorded within 24 hours of the first line hitting the paper. We worked 12- and 14-hour days and in between takes and over meals we talked about the war, the election, baseball, and women, in precisely that order."
Posted by: GAP at August 22, 2004 04:08 PM
YOUR HOROSCOPE
Aries: (March 21—April 19)
This week, it's more important than ever to remember Moscow Rule No. 7: Lull your opposition into a false sense of complacency.
Taurus: (April. 20—May 20)
Canadians are known the world over for their laid-back attitude, which makes it even stranger that thousands of them have barricaded you in your house.
Gemini: (May 21—June 21)
Your tireless efforts have finally united America's workers, but it's less glorious than it sounds, given that you're the NFL's director of brand marketing.
Cancer: (June 22—July 22)
You've finally run up against a problem your trusty meat cleaver can't solve, but that's why they make big wooden mallets.
Leo: (July 23—Aug. 22)
An attempt to popularize the book-length homilies of Laura Ingalls Wilder will result in professional wrestling's strangest phase yet.
Virgo: (Aug. 23—Sept. 22)
Your inability to keep a recent fascination with the rock group Kansas to yourself will result in the first recorded use of a ducking stool since 1848.
Libra: (Sept. 23—Oct. 23)
When you finally come out of the coma, friends will cheer your decision to reveal your recipe for Polish Bacon Buns.
Scorpio: (Oct. 24—Nov. 21)
You won't exactly fade into obscurity after your death, considering that that's where you spent all of your life.
Sagittarius: (Nov. 22—Dec. 21)
When the aliens finally arrive, they'll be much less advanced than anyone expected, as evinced by your maiming under the bald tires of their out-of-control '79 Buick.
Capricorn: (Dec. 22—Jan. 19)
You'll be thrown into a panic when the doctor diagnoses you with ulnar nerve damage, until he explains that that's just funny-bone trouble.
Aquarius: (Jan. 20—Feb. 18)
Stephen Hawking will revise his controversial theory on black holes, leaving you stumped about that noisy thing in your sink that eats garbage.
Pisces: (Feb. 19—March 20)
The stars convey the wisdom that men and women are different, making you wonder momentarily if they might not just be giant fusion reactors after all.
Posted by: the Society for Preservation of Radical Poets and Toothless Bohemians at August 22, 2004 04:08 PM
styrofoam once it hits your gut...
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 04:07 PM
hehe ... I was 16 at the time ... that helps ...
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 04:09 PM
This Cuban kid. Boxer.
So fast the TV signal don't have enough fps to catch his punches smoothly... tough to seeum land.
Used to hate guys like that. You always felt the punch... just weren't sure where it came from.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 04:10 PM
Steve Earle, May 2004, pt 2 of 2
Maybe I am getting old.
Democracy is hard work. American democracy requires constant vigilance to survive and nothing short of total engagement to flourish. Voting is vital, but in times like these voting alone simply isn’t enough. By the time some of you hear these songs the election will be over. Then the real struggle begins.
When the dust clears and the votes are all counted (we’re watchin’ YOU, Jeb) it will be up to all of us—Democrats, Republicans, Greens, and independents alike—to hold whomever is left standing accountable for their actions on our behalf every single day that they are in power. The day after the election, regardless of the outcome, the war will go on, outsourcing of our jobs will continue, and over a third of our citizens will have no health care coverage whatsoever.
Like I said, it’s hard work and there’s so much to be done. And there always will be.
The Constitution of The United States of America is a REVOLUTIONARY document in every sense of the word. It was designed to evolve, to live, and to breathe like the people that it governs. It is, ingeniously, and perhaps conversely, resilient enough to change with the times in order to meet the challenges of its third century and rigid enough to preserve the ideals that inspired its original articles and amendments. As long as we are willing to put in the work required to defend and nurture this remarkable invention of our forefathers, then I believe with all my heart that it will continue to thrive for generations to come. Without our active participation, however, the future is far from certain. For without the lifeblood of the human spirit even the greatest documents produced by humankind are only words on paper or parchment, destined to yellow and crack and eventually crumble to dust.
Yours for the motherfuckin’ revolution,
Steve Earle
Fairview, Tennessee
May 2004
For Johnny Cash and Warren Zevon — See you when I get there, brothers.
Singer and songwriter Steve Earle's 2002 critically acclaimed album JERUSALEM, garnered him his 8th Grammy nomination. His new album will be in record stores August 24th, 2004
Posted by: GAP at August 22, 2004 04:10 PM
that coating swells up to a veritable block of styrofoam once it hits your gut...
A great reminder of why I don't eat chicken..yuck
Posted by: Darlenenbc at August 22, 2004 04:10 PM
A great reminder of why I don't eat chicken..yuck
Posted by: Darlenenbc at August 22, 2004 04:10 PM
its not the chicken ... its the peanut oil soaked breading ... and besides ... what do you think tofu does in your stomach? ...
And for the record ... I didn't post any of the astrology stuff ... somehow blog burp removed the credits and gave it to me ...
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 04:14 PM
Garrison Keillor on Republicans: "They are a party," writes Keillor,
"that is all about perceptions, the Christian party that conceals
enormous glittering malice and is led by brilliant bandits who are
dividing and conquering the sweet land I grew up in. I don't accept
this."
www.salon.com
"dividing and conquering" Just what I said to wardog this am.
Prairie fire Garrison Keillor talks about why he is flamingly anti-Bush
and pro-Democrat.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 04:14 PM
~~~ Pokes Sunshine Jim ~~~
Posted by: GAP at August 22, 2004 04:16 PM
check this out in case you have not
front page
THE CONFLICT IN IRAQ
Sadr City Sings Its Praises of Cleric
A U.S. sweep of militia forces in the Baghdad slum has only boosted support for him.
By Alissa J. Rubin, Times Staff Writer
August 22. 2004
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/iraq/la-fg-sadrcity22aug22,1,4644154.story?coll=la-home-headlines
"In the sprawling neighborhood, the stench of open sewers is pervasive; water merely trickles out of many taps, making it difficult to wash, and that water can cause typhoid and intestinal diseases. Electricity is off much of the time.
Only a small percentage of Sadr City residents belong to Sadr's militia, but there appeared to be wide community support for the fighters' activities even among people who are not followers of the cleric. The slum is named after the cleric's father, who was assassinated under the Saddam Hussein regime."
Posted by: bridge at August 22, 2004 04:17 PM
fried tofu...that's a guilty pleasure if ever there was one...
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 04:17 PM
Pokes ~~~>Sunshine Jim<~~~
Posted by: GAP at August 22, 2004 04:18 PM
I don't eat tofu either...:) I love cheese and all kinds of breads..fruits and veggies...don't like eating out at all..unless I go to China town..yum..ok.. now I'm hungry..:)
Have you guys seen the movie Before Night Falls? Fish I think you would really like it...
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/entertainment/film/reviews/before_night_falls.html
Posted by: Darlenenbc at August 22, 2004 04:18 PM
"dividing and conquering" Just what I said to wardog this am.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 04:14 PM
Ya know ... Sun Tzu wrote a whole book ... it contained many pages .. why are republican douche bags always using the same tired technique ... I for one, would like to see them use the "sacrifice a spy" technique more often ... they could start with Lieberman
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 04:18 PM
DON'T MEDAL
Aug 22 2004
Blair snubs Bush's war honour invite
Exclusive by Paul Gilfeather Political Editor
TONY Blair has snubbed George Bush's pleas to fly to the US and pick up his "war medal" ahead of the Presidential elections.
The US President knows the PM, who is massively popular in the States, would provide his flagging re-election campaign with a much-needed boost.
And he is putting huge pressure on Mr Blair to pick up the Congressional Medal of Honor, awarded by America for his unswerving support in Afghanistan and Iraq.
But Mr Blair's closest aides have warned him to resist the plan, insisting that a meeting with President Bush would torpedo Democrat rival John Kerry's bid for the White House.
A senior Government source said: "There has been a lot of telephone traffic between the White House and Downing Street over the medal in recent weeks. George Bush wants the Prime Minister to come to Washington and pick up the medal, which is the highest honour America can bestow on a foreigner.
"But he has refused for more than a year now and for good reason. He cannot possibly accept an award for the Iraq War when British and American troops continue to risk their lives there.
"The Democrats are watching the situation very carefully and there would be uproar if Tony travelled to Washington to meet Bush so close to the Presidential elections.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 04:18 PM
"sacrifice a spy" technique more often ... they could start with Lieberman
Posted by Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 04:18 PM
Ewww a man who speaks my language...;)
Posted by: Darlenenbc at August 22, 2004 04:20 PM
Blair is popular?
not on this planet.
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 04:21 PM
Darlene, Tofu is Soy, Soy is very healthy for you, lots of cheese is not ;)
Who is in 'Before Night Falls' ?
Who directed it?
Posted by: GAP at August 22, 2004 04:21 PM
and besides ... what do you think tofu does in your stomach? ...
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 04:14 PM
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Caulk your joints?
Posted by: Crank Bait at August 22, 2004 04:23 PM
Before Night Falls (2000)
Directed by
Julian Schnabel
http://imdb.com/title/tt0247196/
Posted by: the Society for Preservation of Radical Poets and Toothless Bohemians at August 22, 2004 04:23 PM
Blair snubs Bush's war honour invite
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 04:18 PM
what kind of an opportunistic bastard would give out the CMA to a guy who didn't even get shot at! Holy shit ... its like pissing on everyone who ever won that medal! thats it! I gotta go puke! brb
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 04:24 PM
How many times has George W Bush been arrested?
At least 3 times that we know of:
*The first arrest of George W. Bush was for theft at a hotel.
*The second arrest was for disorderly conduct at a football game.
*The third arrest, we've now learned, is for a very serious crime -- drunk driving.
Above from an interesting post at:
http://www.airamericaplace.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=3289
Posted by: GAP at August 22, 2004 04:24 PM
Javier Bardem was the deserved recipient of an Academy Award nomination this year for his portrayal of the exiled Cuban writer Reinaldo Arenas. Based on Arenas’ memoirs of oppression in Castro’s Cuba and directed by the former darling of the art world, Julian Schnabel (whose previous film was another artistic biography, Basquiat), this is a poignant if at times slow-moving film.
I did not find it slow moving..it was very good the Cuban music was fantastic..Johnny Depp does two cameos in it..I won't tell you though..it is fun to look for him..
Posted by: Darlenenbc at August 22, 2004 04:25 PM
Darlene,
Yes, I've seen it 20 times or so. One of the most powerful movies out there. Javier Bardem... did you see him in The Dancer Upstairs? That's directed by John Malkovich!
Not as powerfully acted, but a good movie, nonetheless.
Hell of an actor and sells more wall posters to the ladies than just about anyone else.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 04:25 PM
Before Night Falls (2000)
Directed by
Julian Schnabel
http://imdb.com/title/tt0247196/
Posted by the Society for Preservation of Radical Poets and Toothless Bohemians at August 22, 2004 04:23 PM
________________________________________
johnny depp in drag, yay!!
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 04:25 PM
Tofu gets digested just fine
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 04:26 PM
A senior Government source said: "There has been a lot of telephone traffic between the White House and Downing Street over the medal in recent weeks. George Bush wants the Prime Minister to come to Washington and pick up the medal, which is the highest honour America can bestow on a foreigner.
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god bless tony blair, for serving and protecting america so faithfully.
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 04:27 PM
~~~ johnny depp in drag, yay!! ~~~
Oh yeah! Wasn't that clever!!!
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 04:27 PM
US army medics accused in abuse
United States army medics have been accused of being complicit in the abuse of Iraqi inmates at Abu Ghraib prison, outside Baghdad.
Writing in the medical journal The Lancet, Professor Steven Miles of the University of Minnesota says some collaborated with abusive guards.
The academic, who tried to become a US Democrat senator in 2000, has called for an inquiry.
However, the US Pentagon has dismissed the claims.
In a statement, it said it was investigating all aspects of detainee operations but had found no evidence that medical personnel were involved.
Abuse allegations
Reports of abuse at the US-run Abu Ghraib prison, 20km west of Baghdad, first came to light at the end of April.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3579792.stm
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 04:27 PM
I have tried Tofu different ways...I never have found a recipe I really like..I love good cheeses though..I like to buy different goat chesses and some good bread...lettuce, tomato cucumber, avacado, bell pepper..yum what a sandwich! I love the cheese markets here..they are very European..
I will miss them...you know I have come to love the PNW so much...It will be hard to leave..
Ok it sounds like I need to eat...:)
Posted by: Darlenenbc at August 22, 2004 04:30 PM
Drudge is still leading with "Bush to Athens" even though its damned obvious Bush would never attend an international even of ANY kind right now... and that CNN has already reported Colin Powell will go instead.
If Bush went, can you imagine the boos? He can. That's why he ain't a goin!
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 04:30 PM
"Javier Bardem was the deserved recipient of an Academy Award nomination this year for his portrayal of the exiled Cuban writer Reinaldo Arenas...this is a poignant if at times slow-moving film."
Posted by: Darlenenbc at August 22, 2004 04:25 PM
Javier Bardem is a wonderful actor. He has a small, effective scene with Jamie Foxx in "Collateral".
Posted by: the Society for Preservation of Radical Poets and Toothless Bohemians at August 22, 2004 04:31 PM
Read this yesterday and completely agree with the author re Al Franken. HE is totally wasted on radio. Couldn't have said it better myself. So here is the answer re AL FRANKEN.
I assume Al has seen this. Otherwise someone should send this to him.
GO AL! You can make it. I know!
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Prairie fire
Garrison Keillor talks about why he is flamingly anti-Bush and pro-Democrat.
- - - - - - - - - - - -
By David Talbot
http://www.salon.com/books/int/2004/08/21/keillor/index.html
What do you think of Al Franken's chances if he decides to run for public office in Minnesota?
"Al ought to give up radio, which is awfully hard work for a TV guy like himself, and establish residence in Minneapolis, near where he grew up, and get himself a late-model car and drive around and see the state. It's a wonderful place and, doggone it, people would like him. He can announce his campaign in a couple years and start raising money. I'll do some fundraisers for him myself. Al is a natural on the stump. He has a terrific grin that makes people feel good, unlike so many Midwestern liberals, who are about as warm as a concrete block. And he's a genuinely good man, a family man, patriotic, kind to a fault, passionate about justice, and I happen to think he'd enjoy serving in the U.S. Senate. The Senate is a fine platform for exposing deceit and corruption, which is a specialty of Al's. And you can talk for as long as you like."
Posted by: bridge at August 22, 2004 04:31 PM
Tofu gets digested just fine
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 04:26 PM
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Nothing stimulates the salivary glands like the sight of a dell full of soybeans.
Posted by: Crank Bait at August 22, 2004 04:33 PM
the best tofu is those tofutti cutie ice cream sandwiches, although they're too damn small.
Posted by: imaginary friend at August 22, 2004 04:33 PM
I knew that was a movie for you...I loved it too
And the Dancer as well..oh I should have known you've seen it..didn't it win at Sundance?
Posted by: Darlenenbc at August 22, 2004 04:33 PM
I am out for lunch and some cuddle time...:)
Love you guys...*big Kiss*
Posted by: Darlenenbc at August 22, 2004 04:35 PM
Master Sergeant Gary I. Gordon
After his third request to be inserted, Master Sergeant Gordon received permission to perform his volunteer mission. Master Sergeant Gordon was inserted one hundred meters south of the helecopter crash site. Equipped with only his sniper rifle and a pistol, Master Sergeant Gordon and his fellow sniper, while under intense small arms fire from the enemy, fought their way through a dense maze of shanties and shacks to reach the critically injured crew members. Master Sergeant Gordon immediately pulled the pilot and the other crew members from the aircraft, establishing a perimeter which placed him and his fellow sniper in the most vulnerable position. Master Sergeant Gordon used his long range rifle and side arm to kill an undetermined number of attackers until he depleted his ammunition. Master Sergeant Gordon then went back to the wreckage, recovering some of the crew's weapons and ammunition. Despite the fact that he was critically low on ammunition, he provided some of it to the dazed pilot and then radioed for help. Master Sergeant Gordon continued to travel the perimeter, protecting the downed crew. After his team member was fatally wounded and his own rifle ammunition exhausted, Master Sergeant Gordon returned to the wreckage, recovering a rifle with the last five rounds of ammunition and gave it to the pilot with the words, "good luck." Then, armed only with his pistol, Master Sergeant Gordon continued to fight until he was fatally wounded.
Thats who gets a CMA!
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 04:35 PM
~~~ didn't it win at Sundance? ~~~
I think it won something. I was too busy trying to get laid by a movie star that year to take proper note.
I didn't. Great coffee that year, though.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 04:36 PM
Later Darlene...
I'm gonna start on the carpet.
I sing old slavery songs when I clean carpet. Its good that the machine is loud.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 04:37 PM
Love you guys...*big Kiss*
Posted by: Darlenenbc at August 22, 2004 04:35 PM
mmmmph [chew] ... see ya Darlene! ...
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 04:37 PM
Carry on guys!
Need to get some chores done and rest a little.
Later.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 04:38 PM
*
>>>>>
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Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 04:39 PM
*
>>>>>
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Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 04:39 PM
is that a profile?
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 04:40 PM
Bush's 'compassion' for Southwest Florida: $2 million, a photo op,
and the federal Gestapo
By Wayne Madsen
Online Journal Contributing Writer
August 20, 2004—Floridians, many of them elderly, recently got a
taste of George W. Bush's infamous "compassion." Four days after
Hurricane Charley tore through southwestern Florida with 145 mile per
hour sustained winds, Bush's Federal Emergency Management Agency
(FEMA) was able to come up with only $2 million in emergency
assistance. And in an added touch of the Bush administration's
compassion, the American flag was raised at the main Punta Gorda post
office in a patriotic ceremony featuring the Pledge of Allegiance to
the flag. The out-of-place scene was as if the damage in Florida was
caused by a retaliatory attack by the remnants of Saddam Hussein's
forces or a sneak Russian or Chinese missile attack on southwestern
Florida.
http://onlinejournal.com/Commentary/082004Madsen/082004madsen.html
Posted by at August 22, 2004 02:29 PM
________________________________________
I have heard really creepy things about
FEMA.
Posted by: Cb at August 22, 2004 04:41 PM
i am dada and i approve of this tofu
--
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y'know, all those vegetarian pretend meats, if you don't try to make them a substitute for the real thing, they are pretty good in their own way, they just don't taste like whatever it is they're supposed to taste like
although, i know this restaurant that specializes in vegetarian "fake" meat dishes, and they're so good at it i bet they could fool alot of folks
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the "apocalypse" is something that's lived in the gestalt for a very long time...
--
granted,
yet it seems that social growth, or at least social change is increasing exponentially
mmm, that time is imploding on itself, so to speak, like a black hole
i mean, in a sense even the apocalypse itself reinforces that one
Posted by: dadalux at August 22, 2004 04:44 PM
(secret code for 'burpz')
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 04:46 PM
I have heard really creepy things about FEMA.
Posted by: Cb at August 22, 2004 04:41 PM
Could it be because they are the only government organization that has the power to suspend laws, move entire populations, arrest and detain citizens without a warrant and hold them without trial, seize property, food supplies, transportation systems, and suspend the Constitution?
maybe? ... little bit?
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 04:46 PM
~~~ secret code for 'burpz' ~~~
HAHAHAHAHA!
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 04:48 PM
Afternoon blogers!
Anybody know how I can contact Pete Moon?
I've lost his address, and I need to talk to him, also Anna, anyone?
Posted by: terry wilke at August 22, 2004 04:49 PM
... or perhaps its because FEMA was originally created, to assure the survivability of the United States government in the event of a nuclear attack?
... or maybe because its powers grew under the tutelage of people like Lt. Col. Oliver North?
... or because FEMA has even been given control of the State Defense Forces ... a civilian army that will substitute for the National Guard, if the Guard is called to duty overseas. (when could that ever happen?)
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 04:50 PM
the best tofu is those tofutti cutie ice cream sandwiches, although they're too damn small.
Posted by: imaginary friend at August 22, 2004 04:33 PM
------
hooray!
i like the ones with the strawberry stripes
and yes...too damn small
Posted by: dadalux at August 22, 2004 04:50 PM
>>Some are for local but a lot of electronically generated ads are increasingly being used. If a US sports park is seen in a foreign country with a foreign ad in it, it is electronically generated. The digital electronics are pretty sophisticated now and region specific ads can be put into a live video signal.
I just want to touch your assertion that the advertising behind homeplate at safteco fieldis digital and virtual.
I have been to Safeco and seen the ads we are talking about with my own eyes.
You, on the other hand, seem to be insiting that your theoretical technology is the being commonly used.
It is a huge leap of technology from superimposing the first down marker and superimposing a high resolution graphic.
The makers of Nintendo and other Japanese corporations advertise at Safeco partially becasue they are part owners of the M's but mainly because they know the team's Japanese fan base makes it profitable.
Posted by: chubby_bubba at August 22, 2004 04:50 PM
Dust from the Sahara desert blows across the Mediterranean sea. The cause is a massive increase in SUVs driving all over the landscape. Vehicles break up the crust of algae and lichen that holds the soil. The problem is worldwide, as 4x4 use expands in every region
Posted by: nonentity at August 22, 2004 04:51 PM
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MAR402B.html
FEMA- The Secret Government
by Harry V. Martin
Originally published by FreeAmerica and Harry V. Martin, 1995
www.globalresearch.ca 18 February 2004
The URL of this article is: http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MAR402A.html
Some people have referred to it as the "secret government" of the United States. It is not an elected body, it does not involve itself in public disclosures, and it even has a quasi-secret budget in the billions of dollars. This government organization has more power than the President of the United States or the Congress, it has the power to suspend laws, move entire populations, arrest and detain citizens without a warrant and hold them without trial, it can seize property, food supplies, transportation systems, and can suspend the Constitution.
Not only is it the most powerful entity in the United States, but it was not even created under Constitutional law by the Congress. It was a product of a Presidential Executive Order. No, it is not the U.S. military nor the Central Intelligence Agency, they are subject to Congress. The organization is called FEMA, which stands for the Federal Emergency Management Agency. Originally conceived in the Richard Nixon Administration, it was refined by President Jimmy Carter and given teeth in the Ronald Reagan and George Bush Administrations.
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 04:51 PM
Antelope graze near Pinedale, Wyo., where the Bush administration has been pushing oil and gas development. Bush recently announced a leasing slowdown out of consideration for wildlife, but wildlife advocates point out that 75% of the available land has already been leased to developers.
Posted by: nonentity at August 22, 2004 04:52 PM
Snowmobiles in Yellowstone. A group of National Park Service retirees say that Bush's new snowmobile proposal ignores scientific studies and will more than double the number of snowmobiles allowed in Yellowstone National Park, escalating problems with noise and pollution.
Posted by: nonentity at August 22, 2004 04:53 PM
ANNA!
you out there?
Posted by: terry wilke at August 22, 2004 04:53 PM
annatopia.com and click contact...petemoon you can go back to his last post and click his name
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 04:53 PM
Hiya Snny J!
Posted by: chubby_bubba at August 22, 2004 04:54 PM
Study: Major Changes from Warming
By Edie Lau and Stuart Leavenworth
By the end of the century, continued buildup of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere will sour wine grape production, distress dairy cows and bring summer temperatures to many inland cities that match Death Valley's today, according to scientists who have conducted the most detailed study yet of global climate change's effects in California.
The study, released Monday, lays out two main scenarios for the state. One is "business as usual," with carbon-dioxide emissions continuing to rise steeply through the rest of the century. The other presumes greater reliance in the near future on energy sources other than fossil fuels.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/081904G.shtml
Posted by: nonentity at August 22, 2004 04:54 PM
what are the coalition forces scared of??? - why
wont they pull out of najaf...... it the only
peaceful solution..... we are not at war with the
people of najaf..... i thought our tax dollars
were rebuilding iraq..... not destroying it
(actually i've known this for a long time)
.......................................
Najaf Shrine Wall Hit by U.S. Fire-Shi'ite Cleric
14 minutes ago (Aug.22, 2004 - 20:39GMT)
NAJAF, Iraq (Reuters) - A senior commander of
Shi'ite militants holed up inside a Najaf shrine
said the wall of the mosque was hit by U.S. fire
on Sunday night.
Sheikh Ahmed al-Sheibani, who is also a top
adviser to radical cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, said
it was hit during fighting.
It was not immediately possible to confirm the
accusation independently. Serious damage to the
shrine would enrage millions of Shi'ites around
the world and give Sadr political ammunition in
his rebellion against U.S. troops.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040822/ts_nm/iraq_najaf_shrine_dc&cid=564&ncid=1480
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Posted by: white cosmic world-bridger at August 22, 2004 04:55 PM
I really enjoying the cable modem
Posted by: chubby_bubba at August 22, 2004 04:55 PM
I dig tofu in hot n sour soup (with pork of course) and I like it stir fried with veggies, brown rice and Old Bay seasoning ...
But seriously, tofu's protein is no substitute for meat ... in fact it leeches amino acids out of your body resolting in an effect where you loose protein from the foods you eat.
All those studies about how healthy Japanese people were when eating tofu ... simply ignored the fact that meat is always served with it.
Now I like tofu ... for itself ... not as a substitute ... (except maybe that taco meat replacement stuff ... which is yummy and not greasy) ... but I limit my intake of all soy products (yes including soy milk) ... because its not particularly good for you ...
I could be wrong ... but I'm not.
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 04:55 PM
lon chaney
wuzz my favorite
evil guy
http://www.lonchaney.com/images/wmmain.jpg
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 03:15 PM
_____________________________
smiled
Posted by: Cb at August 22, 2004 04:56 PM
But seriously, tofu's protein is no substitute for meat ... in fact it leeches amino acids out of your body resolting in an effect where you loose protein from the foods you eat.
bullshit.
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 04:56 PM
petemoon you can go back to his last post and click his name
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 04:53 PM
Thanks Nobody,
I'll log in so you know it's really me.
I've tried that but no addy on his site???
Posted by: terry wilke at August 22, 2004 04:57 PM
Saturday, August 21, 2004
Hi.
I am getting crazy here, trying to follow what is happening in Najaf thru my own connections, besides the regular media, and its all driving me Crazy, for the last few hours i have been jumping on the couch every now and then to see if there is any news. there is a say, i cant recall if its an Arab or foreigner, anyway, it says "no news is good news" and this is one of the times that this say was totally damn wrong, the "no-news" is burning my nerves. the only news i saw are about more killed Iraqis, over 90 Iraqi killed in the last 24 hours in Najaf and Baghdad, hundred wounded in deferent governorates, curfew in Karbala during the night for the next three days, blood blood and more blood everywhere. 1400 years ago, the grandson of prophet Mohammed PBUH, Imam Hussein, who is a extremely very important character for in Shea beliefs, he was killed in Iraq, as i said before more than 1400 years, and till now, Shea still cry and grieve in the day he was killed every year (that's on the Islamic calendar, yes we have a calendar, its deferent, we are now the year 1425) because he was killed in an unfair war (it?s a really long story) but he fought till he was killed, he said a line that has become a proverb, he said "haihat minna ilthilla, it means, there is no way we will be dishonored" and he fought till he was killed, as i said. Al-Sadr today is playing Imam Hussein role, he even said the same line yesterday (i think, or the day before, not sure) he realizes, as the Iraqi government realizes, that in case he was killed, Shea will grieve him and make a BIG hero out of him, a resistance figure that will live FOR EVER, Saddam did all he could to prevent Shea from grieving Imam Hussein for 35 years, he used to send the army to Shea neighbors in the grieve day, close the streets, make a security alert all over the Shea governorates, sometimes even prevented them from distributing food (that's what they do, they cook in quantities and distribute food around the city) sometimes jailed everyone who does that, yet, after 35 years, they all were back in the streets doing the same traditions and ceremonies they did since ever, i was saying, that the government realizes that, so
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 04:58 PM
Posted by: chubby_bubba at August 22, 2004 04:55 PM
......................
seeing your name makes me hungry for ice cream..........
Posted by: white cosmic world-bridger at August 22, 2004 04:59 PM
Could it be because they are the only government organization that has the power to suspend laws, move entire populations, arrest and detain citizens without a warrant and hold them without trial, seize property, food supplies, transportation systems, and suspend the Constitution?
maybe? ... little bit?
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 04:46 PM
____________________
!!!
i was hoping it was one of those things i was
overly scared of.
i'd rather face a natural diaster on my own than
deal with FEMA
!!!
Posted by: Cb at August 22, 2004 05:00 PM
the government realizes that, so they are going to do everything to insure his safety, they will try instead of stripting him in Abu ghreib, or Swiss-cheesing his body, to offer him terms of agreement that they know, and he knows it would kill him politically, by asking him to go on public and tell people to surrender, the thing that i know, they know, Sadr knows that it would NEVER happen, i know, they know, that he prefers to die and become an all-time hero, these terms they made were only made to justify the killing of all the anti-coalition people by saying : we gave them a chance but they refused it.
question: why don't American army and Iraqi forces pull out immediately from Najaf? What would they lose? There isn't an excuse of "possible war" here right? Sadrist say that they are defending themselves only, why don't the other forces act wise, and just pull out if the goal is the safety of Iraqi people as they claim? Or is it just the normal kill-everyone-that-doesn't-kneel policy?
just a question!
http://www.iraqblogcount.blogspot.com/
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 05:00 PM
F5,F5,F5,F5,F5,F5,
type, type, type,
Enter, End, page up, page up, page up
page up, down arrow, down arrow, down arrow, down arrow, down arrow F5
and repeate.
Posted by: chubby_bubba at August 22, 2004 05:01 PM
I'll throw in with nik on this subject even though I will eat deep fried tofu for the hell of it...
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 05:03 PM
such is the life of a blogger
Posted by: chubby_bubba at August 22, 2004 05:03 PM
Some protein inhibitors are themselves proteins; many enzyme-inhibitors are of course small molecules. There follows a brief survey of some of the inhibitor proteins for which the structures are known.
1BBI: Trypsin/chymotrypsin Bowman-Birk Inhibitor
Source: Soybean (Glycine max)
2BBI: Trypsin/chymotrypsin Bowman-Birk Inhibitor
Source: Soybean (Glycine max)
1PI2: Bowman-Birk trypsin Inhibitor PI-II
Source: Tracy soybean (Glycine max) seeds
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 05:03 PM
>> I will eat deep fried tofu for the hell of it...
and I will eat deep-fried hell, just for the tofu of it.
Posted by: chubby_bubba at August 22, 2004 05:04 PM
Eya CB (Chubby Bubba)
meet
Cb (who is also a freind!)
think this is #1 time u on at same time!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 05:05 PM
The process of making tofu concentrates all three of these inhibitors ...
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 05:05 PM
I've seen the CB moniker before. I'm looking at a cease and desist order to prohibit this unauthorized use. ;-)
Posted by: chubby_bubba at August 22, 2004 05:07 PM
that evil leeching tofu!
believe what you want, i'm sure too much of anything isn't good for you...
i just think thats so silly
Posted by: dadalux at August 22, 2004 05:07 PM
Its not like its worse for you than bacon ... I'm just saying ... what every nutritionalist will say ... variety! ... When you load up on any foodstuff ... even the miraculous soybean ... its not good ... thats all I'm saying ... that and Old Bay seasoning makes a great stir fry.
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 05:07 PM
gimme a minute Terry I think I might have his email...
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 05:10 PM
also ... I use rice milk for most stuff and soy milk only when I need that kind of flavor ...
... and yes ... I got milking cows ... and I do drink/eat dairy ... just not so much ... more like a treat than a staple ...
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 05:10 PM
i've not eaten flesh for about twelve years... eat lots of tofu.... especially from the vietnamese lady up the street...
i dont feel deficient in anything... and my digestive system is in tip-top... stuff goes right thru me.... (tmi)...
soy vs. flesh.........
which is easier and quicker to digest???...
(i know they are different)
i always heard that the human digestive system could only pull out a small percentage of the protein contained in the meat source......
Posted by: white cosmic world-bridger at August 22, 2004 05:10 PM
how bout miso, or does that give you cancer?
i hope you know i'm just having some fun
i heard too much seaweed can make you a communist
Posted by: dadalux at August 22, 2004 05:11 PM
C 'b'
silly! :)
she gotta de rites to dat one!
besides me was de one lazy typist callin
u CB inna de first place! (maybe we worrk
outta sweet lease to own option eh?)
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 05:12 PM
miso gives you cancer of the heart.... i read about it on newsmax.com...............
Posted by: white cosmic world-bridger at August 22, 2004 05:12 PM
>>that evil leeching tofu!
Damned straight! Tofu borrowed $50 from me 2 years ago and never paid it back! 1st tofu says he doen't remmeber the money, now tofu says we've never met.
BTW: John Kerry stole my shoe!
Posted by: chubby_bubba at August 22, 2004 05:13 PM
i always heard that the human digestive system could only pull out a small percentage of the protein contained in the meat source......
Posted by: white cosmic world-bridger at August 22, 2004 05:10 PM
true ... of course meats got a whole lot! ...
... you likely get most of your protein from veggies and nuts ... they are more accessible and the digestive systm will go after them first ... I also take vitamins ... which is a good idea for everyone ... including vegans/vegitarians ...
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 05:13 PM
I don't know if I should post his email publically if he hasn't done so himself...
My email is linked from my blog...send me a quick email and I'll send you his..
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 05:14 PM
Damned straight! Tofu borrowed $50 from me 2 years ago and never paid it back!
Posted by: chubby_bubba at August 22, 2004 05:13 PM
thats hilarious!
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 05:14 PM
i heard too much seaweed can make you a communist
Posted by: dadalux at August 22, 2004 05:11 PM
I wish I liked seaweed ... it makes me gag ... I take sun chlorella pills instead ...
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 05:16 PM
Now I do have to admit that I'm from the school that sees the potato as the closest thing to mana from heaven on this planet...
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 05:16 PM
Tofu used to live with my sister. Tofu never lifted a had to help out with the kids and never worked a day in the entire time I've known Tofu. When she got her welfare check Tofu would spend it on wine and gambling.
Tofu IS a leech.
Posted by: chubby_bubba at August 22, 2004 05:17 PM
*
i have it from good sources
that W are tofu 6 years
ago and had such a bad reaction
that all this is a result!
*
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 05:18 PM
potato as the closest thing to mana from heaven on this planet
........................
ever had breadfruit???... its the potato that grows on trees....
Posted by: white cosmic world-bridger at August 22, 2004 05:18 PM
that sees the potato as the closest thing to mana from heaven on this planet...
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 05:16 PM
I grow me own ... which is a pain ... because the ground around here is mostly clay ...
did I mention that I make the best hash browns?
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 05:18 PM
>>Now I do have to admit that I'm from the school that sees the potato as the closest thing to mana from heaven on this planet...
Irish, huh?
Posted by: chubby_bubba at August 22, 2004 05:19 PM
did I mention that I make the best hash browns?
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 05:18 PM
................................................
will you snail mail me some hash browns then????
Posted by: white cosmic world-bridger at August 22, 2004 05:20 PM
Oh and two more things on heealth...
Eat right,exercise every day, get plenty of rest, don't smoke, don't drink....die anyway
And the tale of a 98 year old man that I met while doing his foundation that insisted on helping dig...
The secret to a long life...smoke drink...do whatever makes you happy...because you don't really die until you get tired of it all.
On that note I'm gonna get out of my chair...stretch...scratch my ass...and go have a smoke...because that makes me happy ;)
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 05:20 PM
Yanqui Olympians are egocentric, puffed-up, pompous morons.
No where do yanqui flag wavers show their ugliness more than while they are in foreign countries.
By far, the ugliest Americans are yanqui goons. Yanqui goons are hated all over the world, and for good reasons. Whether they’re in Iraq, Somalia or Germany – wherever yanqui goons are stationed they are not welcomed.
Another type of yanqui the world hates is the yanqui athlete, especially yanqui Olympians. Yanqui Olympians are the most arrogant, puffed up and unsportsmanlike athletes in the world.
When they win they try to humiliate their opponents by “hotdogging”. In Sidney 2000 a stadium full of spectators booed 4 yanqui track and field gold medal winners as they hot-dogged and played with a yanqui flag as if they were the envy of the world.
When they lose they have 1000 excuses or they blame the judges for making bad calls. In the shot put competition in Greece 2004 the top yanqui contender was disqualified for stepping out of the circle. In a typical yanqui-like display of poor sportsmanship, he screamed at the judges over it. The crowd laughed at him.
Another yanqui poor sportsman in Greece 2004 was the swimmer Gary Hall Jr. Hall has been known to showboat at competitions. He flirts with the camera. Before the 50m swim he came out of the locker room acting like a boxer while wearing yanqui flag boxer trunks with a matching robe. When asked to explain why he showboats, he claims he’s so pumped up before the swim that he doesn’t even remember doing it.
In addition to being arrogant, egocentric and unsportsmenlike, yanqui olympians are the most unprincipled athletes in the world. In Athens 2004 an Olympic Rules committee determined that three judges, during the men’s gymnastics singles competition, wrongly awarded the gold medal to a yanqui. The committee suspended all three judges, but it let the yanqui keep the gold medal, claiming S Korea took too long to complain that one of their top male gymnasts was wrongly denied an extra one tenth of a point, which would have been enough for him to win the gold medal.
The yanqui - after learning of the decision by the rules committ
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 05:20 PM
the doggers
now have a padded
area to recline and
frolic by the desk about
elbow high when i'm sitting.
Ruzzalyn can walk over and give
me a wet willie smoochie in de ear
(jaxxer slid in and took off with the
last bit of devils food cake!) they
bored and don't wanna get wet, tho
i bin shooing em outside when the
fuss and bother gets too intense.
get em ready fer winter routine.
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 05:25 PM
another GOP bastard travelling down the road of NO RETURN...................
they have no SOULS.............
___________________________________________________
Dole Questions Kerry's Vietnam Wounds
17 minutes ago, AP
Former Republican Sen. Bob Dole suggested Sunday
that John Kerry apologize for past testimony
before Congress about alleged atrocities during
the Vietnam War and joined critics of the
Democratic presidential candidate who say he
received an early exit from combat
for "superficial wounds." Dole also called on
Kerry to release all the records of his service
in Vietnam.
Posted by: white cosmic world-bridger at August 22, 2004 05:25 PM
White cosmic world-bridger:
---
What a nuisance
even my fav
^F ^F ^F
has become
thanks
to you
Posted by: bridge at August 22, 2004 05:26 PM
will you snail mail me some hash browns then????
Posted by: white cosmic world-bridger at August 22, 2004 05:20 PM
it wouldn't be the same ... hehe
btw: I just saw a fly do the smartest thing! This fly is an Einstein! ... It has decided to hang out on my flyswatter. Brilliant!
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 05:26 PM
The most dangerous side-effect of repeatedly eating processed soybeans is the complete destruction of any culinary appreciation whatsoever.
True gourmands prefer library paste.
Posted by: Crank Bait at August 22, 2004 05:29 PM
-=NAJAF=- update:
4 minutes ago
Late Sunday, U.S. warplanes and helicopters
attacked positions in the Old City for the second
night with bombs and gunfire, witnesses said.
Militant leaders said the Imam Ali Shrine
compound's outer walls were damaged in the
attacks. The U.S. military had no immediate
comment, though it has been careful to avoid
damaging the compound.
Also, five U.S. troops were reported dead in
separate incidents, and an American journalist
held hostage for more than a week and threatened
with death if U.S. forces did not leave Najaf was
released by his captors.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040822/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq&cid=540&ncid=1478
Posted by: white cosmic world-bridger at August 22, 2004 05:29 PM
True gourmands prefer library paste.
Posted by: Crank Bait at August 22, 2004 05:29 PM
hey! are you saying I'm not a true gourmands? ... you crank!
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 05:30 PM
>>Ruzzalyn can walk over and give
me a wet willie smoochie in de ear
I don't know, but that sounds about as distracting as when my #1 cat, Rufus, pokes me in the love handle with his pointy little paw.
>>jaxxer slid in and took off with the
last bit of devils food cake
you should reward this innovative and progressive behavior.
Posted by: chubby_bubba at August 22, 2004 05:31 PM
come again bridge.........
Posted by: white cosmic world-bridger at August 22, 2004 05:31 PM
one thing i don't do is milk
read some horror stories on that one...
i dont even miss it
and i usually get fake ice cream...its really good nowadays!
but i'm one of those people who will eat anything that you put in front of them...
except you'd have to have a gun to my head to make me eat mcdonalds
and maybe i might have trouble with a live centipede
and for some reason chicken and turkey aren't sitting well with me...don't know why tho...
sometimes i dont put tofu in my miso soup
sometimes i don't even make soup
but i eat alot of miso
i mix it with tahini and a little water, maybe green onions...good on pita or whatever bread you're into, or dip vegetables...etc...good flavor, compliments alot of things...
Posted by: dadalux at August 22, 2004 05:32 PM
"come again bridge........."
White cosmic world-bridger:
---
What a nuisance
even my fav
^F ^F ^F
has become
thanks
to you
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 05:33 PM
i mix it with tahini and a little water, maybe green onions...good on pita or whatever bread you're into, or dip vegetables...etc...good flavor, compliments alot of things...
Posted by: dadalux at August 22, 2004 05:32 PM
ok ... now I'm hungry
later folks
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 05:33 PM
^F ^F ^F
..........................
ima sorry... but it just had to be that way.......
Posted by: white cosmic world-bridger at August 22, 2004 05:34 PM
Dole Questions Kerry's Vietnam Wounds
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=1&u=/ap/20040822/ap_on_el_pr/war_politics
Okay... I've had it. Enough. The gloves are off now. Nobody warned me, but I thought discretion the better part of valor. No more.
Listen, BOB DOLE... I used to respect you... not your political and social views... YOU. That's gone now. Has anyone doubted YOUR wounds... you self righteious phony!
Listen, Bob Dole and Rudy Giuliani and John McCain and Arnold Schwarzenegger... we have respected each of you for varying reasons and that respect has not dimmed because of your support for your party... the Republican Party. But now you are supporting George Bush and you don't seem to worry about how much of your own hard earned bi-partisan respect you waste on this cowardly, weak shadow of a man.
Go ahead. Bush will lose in November and when you come back to the American public expecting the stature and respect you once had from us... it won't be there. America was in crisis and you were on the wrong side. You did not stand up for your country... you stood up for George Bush.
There will be consequences. Hear me! There will be consequences!
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 05:37 PM
There will be consequences. Hear me! There will be consequences!
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 05:37 PM
...............................................................
here, here.....
Posted by: white cosmic world-bridger at August 22, 2004 05:38 PM
"ima sorry... but it just had to be that way.......
Posted by: white cosmic world-bridger at August 22, 2004 05:34 PM"
-
Of course,
bet you are ralphing, too
and than
blame
me
Posted by: bridge at August 22, 2004 05:39 PM
America was in crisis and you were on the wrong side. You did not stand up for your country... you stood up for George Bush.
There will be consequences. Hear me! There will be consequences!
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 05:37 PM
That goes double for me!
Posted by: terry wilke at August 22, 2004 05:41 PM
well
i figger if
i stuff em fuula
enuff it'll slow him down!
ain't workin so far
but a nice theory!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 05:43 PM
Senate Republicans propose dismantling CIA
MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN
Associated Press
WASHINGTON - Senate Intelligence Committee
Republicans proposed removing the nation's
largest intelligence gathering operations from
the CIA and the Pentagon and putting them
directly under a new national intelligence
director.
Roberts said of the proposals supported by eight
GOP members of the intelligence committee. "I'm
trying to build a consensus around something
that's very different and very bold."
Roberts' plan would put the CIA's three main
directorates - Operations, which runs
intelligence collection and covert actions;
Intelligence, which analyzes intelligence
reports; and Science and Technology - into three
new, separate and renamed agencies, each
reporting to a separate assistant national
intelligence director. It also would remove three
of the largest intelligence agencies from the
Pentagon.
Although the measure would essentially dismantle
the CIA, Roberts said in a paper he released: "We
are not abolishing the CIA. We are reordering and
renaming its three major elements."
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/consumer_news/9467951.htm?1c
Posted by: white cosmic world-bridger at August 22, 2004 05:44 PM
There will be consequences. Hear me! There will be consequences!
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 05:37 PM
-------------------------------
(Yes, dear. I'm on my way back to the carpets, dear.)
Posted by: Crank Bait at August 22, 2004 05:45 PM
When you stand up for George W. Bush, there will be consequences!
I, and millions of Americans will go to our graves without an ounce of respect for you! From now on... you are dead to us. Offer me your hand to shake and I will spit on it. Speak in my town and I will yell from the very front of the crowd that you are an unworthy coward. I will instruct my children on your traitorous ways. You are scorned! DO YOU HEAR ME? SCORNED FOR THE REST OF YOUR DAYS!
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 05:45 PM
You should commend your dog on the sort of behavior that's enabled k9s to survive so long.
Posted by: chubby_bubba at August 22, 2004 05:46 PM
~~~ Yes, dear. I'm on my way back to the carpets, dear ~~~
DO YOU HEAR ME BOB DOLE?
AS SOON AS I FINISH THESE CARPETS I WILL RETURN AND WIPE MY HANDS WITH YOUR VERY NAME!
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 05:47 PM
maybe if i had access to fresh unprocessed milk i would drink it...but no such luck on that one right now...
-----
-----
Eat right,exercise every day, get plenty of rest, don't smoke, don't drink....
and take you vitamins and say your prayers like a good hulkamaniac!
Posted by: dadalux at August 22, 2004 05:47 PM
anyone know the language spoken in the phillipines???...
there's a word that describes something one may do for ...............
Posted by: white cosmic world-bridger at August 22, 2004 05:49 PM
I think there are several , English, Spanish And several native lanquages, one of which is Tugaloo (or something like that?)
Posted by: chubby_bubba at August 22, 2004 05:55 PM
Senator Dole : "Have you been down? Do you feel you just do not measure up?"
"Well it could be 'E.D.'"
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 05:57 PM
jaxxer got the
mark a de hounds de
bred him outta to get
the parsons terriers that
are big enough to kill a fox
on their own, great watchdogs,
noisy ear piercing barks, he
can make a 25 sg ft area
of crumbs on his own,
can watch a laser
beam Ruzz does
not see, a
cool lil guy
sorta reminds me
of my buddies coon hound!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 05:58 PM
Could someone explain why Filipinos live in the philipines?
Is the language filipino or philipino?
no use of spellcheck, please.
Posted by: chubby_bubba at August 22, 2004 06:00 PM
tagalog
have a mankukullem daughter/mom
on tap iffn u need help
with a phrase
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 06:04 PM
Changes look good, WebMasters!
Posted by: Cb at August 22, 2004 06:05 PM
In Mr. Bush's Neighborhood, a Peculiar Intersection
By LANDON THOMAS Jr.
Published: August 22, 2004
THE relationship between President Bush and Wall Street has always been a tangled one, layered with paradox and outright contradiction.
On the stump, the president can come across as a prairie populist, describing investment-banking practices as "fancy footwork" and calling the stock market boom of the 1990's feckless, "pie in the sky" investing.
Yet, as the grandson and nephew of patrician East Coast bankers - on his mother's side as well as his father's - President Bush has raised millions of dollars from Wall Street to finance his brief career as an oil wildcatter and his two presidential campaigns. And his fiscal policies, which include sweeping cuts in dividend and capital gains taxes, could be the most pro-Wall Street since Ronald Reagan began cutting taxes in 1981.
Still, for the most part, President Bush has kept bankers at arm's length in his administration. In fact, he is the first Republican president since Dwight D. Eisenhower to not appoint a Treasury secretary from Wall Street, though there is speculation that this may change if he is re-elected.
If President Bush seems conflicted about Wall Street, the feeling may be mutual. Although the Republican National Convention, to be held next week in New York, has been financed in part by large sums of Wall Street money, the debate over the president's policies is full-throated, drawing in some of the financial industry's biggest names.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/22/business/yourmoney/22mack.html?hp
Posted by: chubby_bubba at August 22, 2004 06:07 PM
Fishgrease,
Dole has always supported Bush, always, and so have the other three you mentioned, none of them I like.
The Republicans want to win. Nothing else matters to them. Why is that surprising?
And Dole's Viagra supply should now be secured into eternity. Although he is probably more than happy to attack Kerry's military record. Let's not get nostalgic when it comes to Dole. Dole can be one nasty customer. Very nasty.
The WWII generation esp. never got the sixties and have fought them ever since. Like Maureen Dowd said, in this election process the fifties (Repubs) are fighting the sixties (Demos) AGAIN - while the world bleeds.
And where are the 60's people who started a revolution (for which I am eternally grateful btw).
Aren't they finally old enough to be taken serious and shape world politics?
"They are all managers now," a 69er told me.
Posted by: bridge at August 22, 2004 06:10 PM
can I assume you folks have seen the videos from this thing in operation? ...
http://www.factsofisrael.com/blog/archives/000560.html
the little white dots are human beings
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 03:19 PM
_________________
thats just wrong
Posted by: Cb at August 22, 2004 06:11 PM
this is interesting, thanks unnamed poster!
----
http://www.iraqblogcount.blogspot.com/
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 05:00 PM
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------------------
SATURDAY, AUGUST 07, 2004
Radio Stream from Baghdad
Streamtime.org transmits a web~radio stream from Baghdad on Sundays from 12.00 CET, they also transmit on Wednesdays. You can download the streams (on Sunday at 12.00) from their site here and enter the Streamtime Jingle Contest here.
Streamtime say their website is not a blog, but the site is laid out in blog-like format with regular posts giving program details, transmission times, and links to the streams. So i guess this raises the next question; if broadcasters can blog, then can bloggers broadcast? Probably time to see if those el cheapo old speakers still work.
Posted by: dadalux at August 22, 2004 06:15 PM
And this...
Mind me guys posting this topic here. I just want to get out something from my chest which has puzzled me for quite a while. What is the aim of blogging ?
For me, it is to increase the interactions between the locals, and the outside world. I guess in the west some people (not all) see Iraqis as masked men with RPG s , and suicide bombers, and Sader Militias, etc etc (all the negative images which are shown on TV) ...
For instance, I have never seen the city of Sulaimania on any international television. Fallujah is the most famous Iraqi city after Baghdad. FUNNY !
In the 1990s during the Kurdish civil war, I met some Turkish people in Kurdistan, they said we thought that in Kurdistan they eat people alive. Because what they used to see on their televisions about Kurdistan was men in baggy trousers and a little beard, with a bushy hair, and an AK47, brandishing their guns in the air. They thought all Kurds were like that. FUNNY again !
What we have to do as bloggers, is to show the positive signs of ourselves. We are not terrorist masked men, we don't like guns, we don't like beheading, we don't like killing, we don't like suicide bombings, we don't like torturing prisoners, and some of us prefer our local Beebsi than Coca Cola (but not all) !
Posted by: dadalux at August 22, 2004 06:16 PM
*
some of the the
hippies were dragged
kicking and screaming back
into the arms of comfort and
stability, some of the rads learned
to shape shift, all saw that love
was a powerful force in the
here and now and a bunch
went inside to effect
change, this is not
a stupid bunch and
the takin names
part is goin
strong. it
takes a while
for things to coalesce
"theres a lot more after 04"
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 06:19 PM
~~~ Dole has always supported Bush, always, and so have the other three you mentioned, none of them I like. ~~~
You miss my point. Just because you never had any respect for these men doesn't mean there aren't lots of us who did. I am not a partisan voter. In 2000, I contributed money to McCain's campaign and indeed, like millions of other Americans, would have voted for him for President. All the others I mentioned, I at least had *some* respect for... at least as statesmen.
These assholes need to know that they are losing something here. Yes, they're not losing your respect because they never had it. They're losing mine and the respect of many other Americans by what they do right now.
Consequences!
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 06:19 PM
see this is where the empathy begins.
u realize we all have monsters inside.
some are gentle quirky monsters that
are endearing, some casually create
great evil then go off to play golf
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 03:40 PM
_______________
gold * post
Posted by: Cb at August 22, 2004 06:23 PM
“In many ways then, you are ‘dead’ now – and as dead as you will ever be.”
– Seth Speaks, session 539.
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 06:24 PM
Eya CB (Chubby Bubba)
meet
Cb (who is also a freind!)
think this is #1 time u on at same time!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 05:05 PM
_________________
Hi Chubby Bubba
I have heard many good things about you:)
I hearby change my name to ConBo in honor of
the first CB:)
Thanks for the intro Sunny Shadow!
Posted by: ConBo formerly Cb at August 22, 2004 06:26 PM
Makes it
purty obvious
what a persons
ethical response
is to pressure, and
those guys cave in every
time theres a lil flap
or push comes to
a bit of shove.
revealing to
us and up
to now
hidden, by the
'corporate media
smokescreen' that
is due for some more
exposure about now that
their pant's are on fire.
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 06:28 PM
“You must realize that any idea you accept as truth is a belief that you hold.
You must, then, take the next step and say, ‘It is not necessarily true even though I believe it.’
You will, I hope, learn to disregard all beliefs that imply basic limitations.”
– The Nature of Personal Reality, session 614
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 06:30 PM
>>I have heard many good things about you:)
Proof of the liberal media's existance
I hearby change my name to ConBo in honor of
the first CB:)
Really, no need. I was just making a joke. don't change your name on my account.
Posted by: chubby_bubba at August 22, 2004 06:31 PM
The cat's lover
http://baghdadgirl.blogspot.com/
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 06:33 PM
more dole for ya fish-g.........
...................................NEVER HATED HIM SO MUCH...........
(and i wish his bithc-ass wife would get the hell out of my home state...)
(white cosmic world-bridger = alterego -13ben)
................................
"One day he's saying that we were shooting
civilians, cutting off their ears, cutting off
their heads, throwing away his medals or his
ribbons," Dole said. "The next day he's standing
there, `I want to be president because I'm a
Vietnam veteran. "Maybe he should apologize to
all the other 2.5 million veterans who served. He
wasn't the only one in Vietnam," said Dole, whose
World War II wounds left him without the use of
his right arm.
Dole added: "And here's, you know, a good guy, a
good friend. I respect his record. But three
Purple Hearts and never bled that I know of. I
mean, they're all superficial wounds. Three
Purple Hearts and you're out."
Posted by: white cosmic world-bridger at August 22, 2004 06:34 PM
eya ConBo
u allus be
Cb to me!
tanks fer de compliment
always sweet to have a treat.
what goes around comes around eh?
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 06:35 PM
Really, no need. I was just making a joke. don't change your name on my account.
Posted by: chubby_bubba at August 22, 2004 06:31 PM
________
too late
already had it notarized and everything
'sides, it will cut down on the confusion
Posted by: ConBo at August 22, 2004 06:35 PM
Besides, I like it, was time for a change
and it rymes with gumbo!
Posted by: ConBo at August 22, 2004 06:37 PM
BUSH LIED AND OUR SOLDIERS DIED
......................................
As of Friday, Aug. 20, 949 U.S. service members have died since the beginning of military operations in Iraq
we must avenge their deaths...........
DEFEND AMERICA
DEFEAT BUSH
Posted by: white cosmic world-bridger at August 22, 2004 06:40 PM
"You miss my point."
Where? And why do you think that everything in my post has something to do with you?
You are disappointed to say the least - you doing some pretty ranting following your initial post - and I am not. It's a simple as that.
Republicans always stick together and that's why they win.
You voted for McCain
and that would never occur to me
just like millions voted for Nader
and that would never occur to me either.
But you are not a registered Democrat
and that explains SOME of it.
Btw. who says that I don't - now or ever -
have any respect for those four people? - even though I don't care for them?
Looks like "projecting" and melodrama rules the day again.
Time to feed the cats ...
Posted by: bridge at August 22, 2004 06:44 PM
Saturday, August 21, 2004
A Bomb
...Yesterday when I woke up there was a noisy around the house I asked my mother and she told me that there is a bomb beside the Grosser shop. after an hour the police came and told every one they will destroy the Bomb but they took it with them and that shop will not open until tow or three days.
posted by kais zaid at 6:47 AM | 3 comments
http://fantasywizard.blogspot.com/
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 06:46 PM
“In many ways then, you are ‘dead’ now – and as dead as you will ever be.”
– Seth Speaks, session 539.
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 06:24 PM
---
you are also as alive as you will ever be
enjoy it
he just says 'dead' to make a point
can't have life without death
i wonder if edgar cayce and all the other trancers meet on the other side and goof off together...those lazy bums!
Posted by: dadalux at August 22, 2004 06:58 PM
Analogously,
DNA only codes for the materials
from which the body is constructed:
the enzymes, the structural proteins, and so forth.
There is no evidence that it also codes for
the plan, the form, the morphology of the body.
To see this more clearly,
think of your arms and legs.
The form of the arms and legs is different;
it's obvious that they have
a different shape from each other.
Yet the chemicals
in the arms and legs are identical.
The muscles are the same,
the nerve cells are the same,
the skin cells are the same,
and the DNA is the same
in all the cells of the arms and legs.
In fact, the DNA is the same
in all the cells of the body.
DNA alone cannot explain
the difference inform;
something else is necessary to explain form...
Posted by: white cosmic world-bridger at August 22, 2004 06:58 PM
~~~ You voted for McCain ~~~
Never said that. Misquote me when what I originally wrote is on this same page?
~~~ Where? And why do you think that everything in my post has something to do with you? ~~~
"Fishgrease,
Dole has always supported Bush, always, and so have the other three you mentioned, none of them I like. "
I'm Fishgrease. When someone addresses something to me, I tend to take it as addressed to me.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 07:00 PM
A Look at Four Guantanamo Bay Detainees
http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/news/9468176.htm
Posted by: ConBo at August 22, 2004 07:00 PM
Just wanted to say:
Read over my initial response to Fishgrease again - was hoping someone would pick up the point I made.
Well someone did.
Thanks, Jim! :
No doubt the 60s
had a cultural effect
but name one strong
69ers voice who makes a
real difference on the
talk circus every day on TV.
And that's what people hear
not the TYTimes oped.
Posted by: bridge at August 22, 2004 07:00 PM
>>Besides, I like it, was time for a change
and it rymes with gumbo!
I hope people don't confuse you with ConDo-lleeza Rice.
Posted by: chubby_bubba at August 22, 2004 07:01 PM
I hope people don't confuse you with ConDo-lleeza Rice.
Posted by: chubby_bubba at August 22, 2004 07:01 PM
________________________________
cross that brigde when we come to it, i suppose
is good to finally meet you:)
everyone thought i was you at first
Posted by: ConBo at August 22, 2004 07:03 PM
Well at least bridge is finally coming out of the old troll closet
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 07:04 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stem_cell
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 07:04 PM
Hi people.
I'm not certain if this is old news or not but, I got the link off of bartcop. It's John McCain confronting the Shrub about the Swiftboat Liars.
Check it out:
Posted by: DarkeningBolt at August 22, 2004 07:05 PM
“You must realize that any idea you accept as truth is a belief that you hold.
You must, then, take the next step and say, ‘It is not necessarily true even though I believe it.’
You will, I hope, learn to disregard all beliefs that imply basic limitations.”
– The Nature of Personal Reality, session 614
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 06:30 PM
would you like me to translate?
“You must realize that any idea you accept as truth is a belief that you hold.
--you are what you eat
You must, then, take the next step and say, ‘It is not necessarily true even though I believe it.’
--but not always
You will, I hope, learn to disregard all beliefs that imply basic limitations.”
--only eat things that are good for you
Posted by: dadalux at August 22, 2004 07:08 PM
>>everyone thought i was you at first
I suspect your civility and clear-headed logic disavowed them of that misperception, no? ;-)
Posted by: chubby_bubba at August 22, 2004 07:11 PM
i'm catching up on my re-reading here...i think fishie is gone but i have to comment on the following
****************************************
I wrote this short story ages ago where this guy doing research into Sonoluminescence
http://www-phys.llnl.gov/N_Div/sonolum/
Causes a dimensional rift and ends up in an alternate reality and somehow plucks Tecumseh from the battle wherein he was killed... before he was killed. So this researcher and Tecumseh are in this strange land and they meet this gatekeeper who asks a riddle... not knowing that Tecumseh is a Native American and that to some of them, riddles were a rather blatant insult... so Tecumseh pulls his knife and just guts the gatekeeper alive... after which the researcher pulls out his notebook and writes,
"Tecumseh does not like riddles... must remember"
Posted by Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 02:40 AM
cool fish...that’s really an imaginative story...
(Shawnee?) On 5 October 1813, Tecumseh (also known as Tecumthe), the leader of an Indian confederacy, died at the Battle of The Thames. Before his death, Tecumseh wielded more power than any other North American Indian before him did, and no other Indian after him would ever come close to his domination.
I didn’t know about Tecumseh other than the name before so thanks for bringing him up. I really love vintage pics of native Americans also they have really strong faces imo.
here’s my buddy stats - 1829-1909 – Geronimo apache – T was Shawnee right? I think that’s what I read..
----------------
Me Me Me Me
Posted by Fishgrease at August 21, 2004 11:24 PM
You read davinci code! …drat fish, guess my reading was off last night, I missed this completely until now… next time i’m here and you’re here, hopefully I’ll be somewhat into it –I suppose there’s no reason to ask you about it until I finish it to…then we can discuss...
:)
Posted by: Alice at August 22, 2004 07:11 PM
Free Speech Stifled
In America, planning to protest isn't a crime
August 19, 2004
Like a scene out of Steven Spielberg's movie "Minority Report," the FBI has been targeting possible protesters who agents think could have been planning to disrupt this summer's national political conventions.
But thinking, protesting -- even disrupting, to some extent -- are not crimes, much as Attorney General John Ashcroft would apparently like them to be.
One FBI employee complained that agent visits to possible protesters, in the name of rooting out violence before it can occur, blur the line between trampling protected speech and preventing illegal activity, the New York Times reported. But the Department of Justice said any minimal chilling effect was a fair trade for public safety.
"Criminal behavior isn't covered by the First Amendment," an FBI spokesman told the Times.
True, but the FBI wasn't going after behavior, merely allegations that some protests might turn violent. Based on that, they went after previous anti-war demonstrators. At least in the frightening enough Spielberg movie, seers actually knew the who, what, when, where and how of a future crime.
In the real world, restrictions on the time, place and manner of protests are generally legal. During the Democratic Convention in Boston, the opposition was relegated to "free speech zones," much as demonstrators have been roped out of events at which President George W. Bush has spoken since Sept. 11.
Taking precautions in the post-9/11 era and setting parameters for protest, however, are far different from rooting out and intimidating those who have peacefully demonstrated in the past under the assumption that they will incite violence in the future. Some of those questioned by the FBI didn't even plan to go to either convention.
After the way they've been treated, some activists might now be considering a trip to the upcoming Republican Convention in New York City. But many of them got the message from their government: Stay home.
No matter how you spin it, a visit from the FBI is no "minimal" chill on free speech.
Posted by: nonentity at August 22, 2004 07:12 PM
Boy oh boy
read that sucker again LOL
---
~~~ You voted for McCain ~~~
Never said that. Misquote me when what I originally wrote is on this same page?
I apologize like I have never apologized to anyone in my life, Fishgrease.
Please forgive me.
Of course, I didn't mean to misquote you.
It's not my style. Don't you know?
You said you gave some money and "would have" voted for McCain. Right? I am so sorry.
--
"I'm Fishgrease. When someone addresses something to me, I tend to take it as addressed to me."
I got you. But I explained that already.
Sorry, I addressed you, Fishgrease. It won't happen again.
Posted by: bridge at August 22, 2004 07:13 PM
---Tomorrow Never Knows
the beatles
Posted by: dadalux at August 22, 2004 01:05 AM
…i looooooooove that song....
and where are they going if not to you?
Posted by dadalux at August 22, 2004 02:55 AM
I send all mail that’s not directly to me and alice to a BLACKHOLE…
only the scoobies can read it once it’s there…
:)
Posted by: Alice at August 22, 2004 07:13 PM
this is the position of modern biology,
trying to explain everything
in terms of what happens inside...
the more
explanations for form
are looked for inside,
the more elusive
the explanations prove to be,
and the more they are ascribed to
ever more subtle and complex interactions,
which always elude investigation...
the analogy suggests,
the forms and patterns of behavior
are actually being tuned into
by invisible connections
arising outside the organism...
the development of form
is a result of both
the internal organization of the organism
and the interaction of the morphic fields
to which it is tuned...
Posted by: white cosmic world-bridger at August 22, 2004 07:14 PM
http://jeffcrook.20m.com/mad.html
Posted by: nonentity at August 22, 2004 07:16 PM
Scorpio: (Oct. 24—Nov. 21)
You won't exactly fade into obscurity after your death, considering that that's where you spent all of your life.
how fun to get my horoscope here - cool nik!
:)
Posted by: Alice at August 22, 2004 07:16 PM
~~~ Dole has always supported Bush, always, and so have the other three you mentioned ~~~
No. Wrong, and exactly the point I was trying to make when planted your foot into the middle of it. Watch this video which DarkeninBolt has just provided and you will see that indeed, McCain has certainly not always supported Bush...
http://www.johnkerry.com/video/player.php?video=082104_old_tricks
But now that McCain IS supporting Bush, he is going to have to face the consequences. MY point.
So, next time you sanctimoniously cannot figure out why something which you knew all along is surprising to me... view the facts.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 07:17 PM
white cosmic world-bridger
i dig your posts. wink wink
:)
Posted by: Alice at August 22, 2004 07:19 PM
..............Fair Warning..............
I'm back!!!
This is your Hippy Dippy Chickie reporting for duty.
Toni's my name...the 60's was my game. Psycadelic man.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 07:20 PM
Scorpio: (Oct. 24—Nov. 21)
You won't exactly fade into obscurity after your death, considering that that's where you spent all of your life.
how fun to get my horoscope here - cool nik!
:)
Posted by: Alice at August 22, 2004 07:16 PM
nov. 1,
damn glad to meetchya.
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 07:21 PM
When we consider memory,
this hypothesis leads to
a very different approach
from the traditional one...
The key concept of morphic resonance
is that similar things
influence similar things
across both space and time.
The amount of influence depends
on the degree of similarity...
Most organisms are more similar
to themselves in the past
than they are to any other organism...
I am more like me five minutes ago
than I am like any of you;
all of us are more
like ourselves in the past
than like anyone else...
The same is true of any organism.
This self-resonance with past states
of the same organism in the realm of form
helps to stabilize the morphogenetic fields,
to stabilize the form of the organism,
even though the chemical constituents
in the cells are turning over and changing...
Habitual patterns of behavior
are also tuned into
by the self-resonance process...
If I start riding a bicycle, for example,
the pattern of activity of
my nervous system and my muscles,
in response to balancing on the bicycle,
immediately tunes me in
by similarity to all the previous
occasions on which I have ridden a bicycle...
The experience of bicycle riding
is given by cumulative
morphic resonance to all
those past occasions.
It is not a verbal or intellectual memory;
it is a body memory of riding a bicycle...
Posted by: white cosmic world-bridger at August 22, 2004 07:21 PM
>>everyone thought i was you at first
I suspect your civility and clear-headed logic disavowed them of that misperception, no? ;-)
Posted by chubby_bubba at August 22, 2004 07:11 PM
__________________
Not really!
I think everyone thoght I was a troll
I put my foot in my mouth a lot
I insulted Thag right off the bat
am getting better at this blog talk tho:)
Posted by: ConBo at August 22, 2004 07:22 PM
Ok ... I had to drop back in ... I had AAR on in the background and it looks like the Imam Ali shrine has been bombed
turn on AAR!
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 07:23 PM
shrine has been attacked by u.s. tank...
laura flanders show...
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 07:23 PM
my goodness nonentity
Posted by: dadalux at August 22, 2004 07:25 PM
* Steve Earle Escalates The Political Debate *
August 22, 2004 - Chicago Sun Times
BY JIM DEROGATIS Pop Music Critic
Steve Earle's resume has always read like a how-to manual for the ardent revolutionary. The Virginia-born, Texas-reared singer and songwriter lives in Nashville -- though he's contemplating a move to New York -- but he has long considered Chicago a second home, and the city is home to one of his most dedicated fan bases.
Earle established himself with the New Traditionalist country of "Guitar Town" (1986); marked himself as one of the hottest up-and-comers of the early '90s with the Bruce Springsteen populism and heartland rock of "Copperhead Road" (1988); then threw it all away by getting himself addicted to heroin and serving time in prison.
Earle defied the odds by coming back strong after a four-year absence from the music world; he re-established himself as a roots-rocker in 1995, then ticked off that following by going bluegrass for a while. Later, he made a heck of a ruckus when he returned to rock and wrote a sympathetic song about John Walker Lindh, the so-called American Taliban, on his sixth album, the brilliant "Jerusalem" (2002).
In amongst all of that, the musician has dabbled as an actor, a playwright, a novelist and a short-story writer; crusaded tirelessly against the death penalty; gotten married -- and divorced -- six times, and lost 60 pounds on Atkins, the high-protein, low-carbohydrate diet that medical professionals like to say is bunk, but which Earle swears by, so long as you follow it religiously. ("The only place I eat pizza is Chicago," he says.)... pt 1 of 2
Posted by: Great American Patriot at August 22, 2004 07:25 PM
another party fannin the flames...
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 07:26 PM
nov. 1,
damn glad to meetchya.
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 07:21 PM
cool!
man scorpio or woman scorpio?
"i'm a 17"
....(remember the numerology episode of i love lucy?)
-----------------------------------
Overtone Moon day 3
Year of the Red Cosmic Moon
kin 23: Blue Planetary Night
I Perfect in order to Dream
Producing Intuition
I seal the Input of Abundance
With the Planetary tone of Manifestation
I am guided by the power of Magic
Day Translation Utility
Crystal Moon day 24
Year of the White Lunar Wizard
kin 125: Red Galactic Serpent
I Harmonize in order to Survive
Modeling Instinct
I seal the Store of Life Force
With the Galactic tone of Integrity
I am guided by the power of Universal Water
13ben - these were really fun too, sort of like a horoscope or not? - how do they differ if you know, or want to yack about it sometime....
-----------------------
body memory of riding a bicycle...
Posted by: white cosmic world-bridger at August 22, 2004 07:21 PM
is 'body memory" similar in meaning to "cellular memory"?
Posted by: Alice at August 22, 2004 07:27 PM
"Well at least bridge is finally coming out of the old troll closet
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 07:04 PM"
--
Okay, decided not to let this slide.
Being called a troll is not something I take lightly.
EXPLAIN PLEASE!
And if anyone else here on the MRRblog has the same opinion, please say so.
Waisting my time on the net is not my cup of tea.
Posted by: bridge at August 22, 2004 07:27 PM
An American Dream
Virus mind infects the species,
with nightmares of violence
Spreading like plague,
the anger and rage
is just another symptom
of a deadly age.
People...humans they define inhumane.
Strip away the gloss & the dark will remain.
When all there is, is shine,
and there is no depth,
Society reverts to madness, to death.
More drugs to cover all of our pain;
But what really screams
in the anesthetized brains?
And all hearts are screaming
All days are Hallow's Eve
There will come a time, when dreaming shall leave.
Next thing to happen is the
agony will wake,
It will demand to be heard...
Or has it already?
The memory is blurred.
So we wrap ourselves in silence
Become blind to violence...
After all,
isn't it Natural Selection?
Posted by: DarkeningBolt at August 22, 2004 07:28 PM
Given his contentious history, it's really saying something to claim that "The Revolution Starts ... Now" is Earle's most controversial, combative and pugnacious album ever. It is his most immediate. For the first time in his career, the 49-year-old performer entered the recording studio without a single song written for the new album -- the tunes came together in front of the microphones and with the tapes rolling.
Originally scheduled for a Sept. 16 release, the disc was moved up for distribution Tuesday with the goal of arriving in stores as soon as possible before the November presidential election, and while the situation in Iraq grows worse by the day.
I spoke with Earle in June, before anyone else had heard the new disc, and while he was in the midst of a bluegrass tour. Here are the highlights of an, as always, opinionated and wide-ranging conversation:
Q. Steve, you're in the middle of a stint with your bluegrass band right now -- you just played the Telluride Festival with the Bluegrass Dukes -- but I imagine you're itching to play the new songs from "The Revolution Starts ... Now," no?
A. Yeah, I am. I've played "Rich Man's War" a couple of times; I think the first time I played it in front of an audience was in [Washington] D.C. at the Justice Project benefit. I did it at Telluride the other day. It's pretty amazing -- the reaction of that song is pretty consistent. I've played it like three times, and as soon as you get to the chorus, the whole place explodes.
Q. It must sound quite a bit different when you play it with the bluegrass band.
A. It does. But we also do "Jerusalem" and "John Walker's Blues" as a bluegrass band. The first time we did that was in San Francisco -- I can't get away without doing "John Walker's Blues" in the Bay area. There's a bluegrass festival called Not Strictly Bluegrass that's in Golden Gate Park, and it's free. This bluegrass band has been kept together by that festival; we play it every year. In fact, we probably won't start touring to support this record with the Dukes until the middle of October.
The record drops the 24th of August, which is three weeks earlier than we thought. I was trying to get ready fo
Posted by: Great American Patriot at August 22, 2004 07:29 PM
Waisting my time on the net is not my cup of tea.
Posted by: bridge at August 22, 2004 07:27 PM
you misspelled wasting ... other than that ... your fly is down? ... hehehe ... I kibbitz, I kid ...
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 07:31 PM
did anyone else hear what i just did, or what...?
Posted by: man scorpio at August 22, 2004 07:32 PM
Hi ya Alice ... sorry to say ... it wasn't me that posted the astrology ... blog burp made it look like me ... but ... if you send me a naked picture of yourself I can tell you your fortune ... hehe
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 07:32 PM
Steve Earle escalates the political debate pt 3
The record drops the 24th of August, which is three weeks earlier than we thought. I was trying to get ready for Sept. 16, because I thought that would be the best that I could do. But I knew pretty much what I wanted to say. I had teeth in these songs, and a couple of unfinished songs, and one riff that I knew was going to be a spoken-word piece. I knew what this album was going to be about, and I actually knew what it was going to be called, but I didn't have a word written. By the end of it, I was waking up in the morning with a blank piece of paper and writing a song and going into the studio and recording it that night.
Q. The goal was to get it out before the presidential election?
A. Yeah -- it's the election more than anything else. As we were making it, the war started developing this kind of ugly momentum, as wars do. We can sit around and talk about it, but there's my side of it, and there's the other side of it. I've always opposed this war, and I oppose any war.
I definitely oppose wars that are fought where there's no immediate threat to us and we just go out and start a war. I'm sorry, but that's what we did this time. We've done it before -- it goes way back in our history, back at least to the Mexican-American War. It is as American as apple pie. But I think we proved in the '60s that the Constitution allows us to make America a hipper place than it was intended to be if we work really hard at it, and we never go to sleep.
I think that's happened -- we've gone to sleep. I don't think it's about them. There's always been a them. There will always be a them. I think it's about us. And I think we went to sleep.
Q. So you feel it's your duty as an artist to speak out about politics?
A. I think it's my duty because I can and because I speak pretty readily in political terms. I don't see much difference between the songs I write that people call "political" and the other songs. I mean, "Copperhead Road" is pretty f---ing political, but people don't think about it that way. But that was my post-Vietnam song. Some songs are just more ... with this record, there's obviously more [politics]... full
Posted by: Great American Patriot at August 22, 2004 07:35 PM
G'evening gang
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 03:40 PM
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 06:19 PM
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 06:28 PM
And someone tell me why was it is that we all love him?
_________________________________________________________________
I'm making FRESH linguini w/ FRESH clam sauce & homemade Italino bread w/ sesame seeds.
So I'm cutting up the clams & whispering under my breath.......
Longer than mine....cut....my ass....cut....teeny weenie.....cut, hack, slice!
Were your ears ringing, Fishy? *snark*
________________________________________________________________
Sent you some more "treats," Ms. Alice!
Posted by: Liberal-at-large at August 22, 2004 07:37 PM
don't tempt me bridge...
oh, i'm just kidding you big galoot!
hee hee
Posted by: dadalux at August 22, 2004 07:38 PM
did anyone else hear what i just did, or what...?
Posted by: man scorpio at August 22, 2004 07:32 PM
not me...whatja hear?
you know the myth of the man scorpio right?
_____________________________________
Hi ya Alice ... sorry to say ... it wasn't me that posted the astrology ... blog burp made it look like me ... but ... if you send me a naked picture of yourself I can tell you your fortune ... hehe
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 07:32 PM
well let me strip and get right on that nik! why haven't i thought of that?! LMAO!!
....i'll have to go back and see who posted that then...very clever imo...nice mind relaxer...
:)
------------------------------------------
hi tonid! were you an actual hippie chick?
:)
Posted by: Alice at August 22, 2004 07:39 PM
MSNBC News Services
Updated: 5:44 p.m. ET Aug. 22, 2004NAJAF, Iraq - Explosions and gunfire shook Najaf’s Old City on Sunday in a fierce battle between U.S. forces and Shiite militants, as negotiations dragged on for the handover of the shrine that the fighters have used for their stronghold.
U.S. warplanes and helicopters attacked positions in the Old City for the second night with bombs and gunfire, witnesses said. Militant leaders said the Imam Ali Shrine compound’s outer walls were damaged in the attacks. The U.S. military had no immediate comment, though it has been careful to avoid damaging the compound.
Fighters loyal to the radical Shiite cleric Moqtada Al-Sadr have maintained their hold on the shrine as clashes flared, raising fears that a resolution to the crisis in the holy city could collapse amid bickering between Shiite leaders.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5685031/
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 07:39 PM
It's simple Bridge...
You're consistantly trying to sow discontent whenever you can.
You don't argue arguments you argue personalities.
I've yet to see you involved in any "debate" where you did not first cast aspersions on the charactor of those you argue against.
In short...I believe you to be a troll that's fond of appearing nickless and causing trouble...therefore I will treat you as such.
If you don't like it too damned bad.
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 07:39 PM
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Posted by: at August 22, 2004 07:40 PM
the meditations are a cycling combination
of 20 frenquencies expressed in 13 tones.......
20 frequencies
dragon
wind
night
seed
SERPENT
world-bridger
hand
star
moon
DOG
monkey
human
skywalker
wizard
EAGLE
warrior
earth
mirror
storm
SUN
13 tones
magnetic
lunar
electric
self-existing
overtone
rhythmic
resonant
galactic
solar
planetary
spectral
crystal
cosmic
................................................
whew......
Posted by: white cosmic world-bridger at August 22, 2004 07:40 PM
http://jeffcrook.20m.com/mad.html
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 07:41 PM
hi tonid! were you an actual hippie chick?
:)
Posted by: Alice at August 22, 2004 07:39 PM
I was I was. Bell bottoms, bra burning, long hair parted down the middle. And Protesting the War in Nam.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 07:41 PM
Sagittarius: (Nov. 22—Dec. 21)
When the aliens finally arrive, they'll be much less advanced than anyone expected, as evinced by your maiming under the bald tires of their out-of-control '79 Buick.
sigh...it's as I suspected.
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 22, 2004 07:43 PM
If you don't like it too damned bad.
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 07:39 PM
you're a smooth one! ... very subtle ... crafty ...
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 07:43 PM
Feels like a trillion years ago, and yet the same feeling I get today. Similar conditions.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 07:43 PM
A Political Fusillade, Just In Time
STEVE EARLE
"THE REVOLUTION STARTS ... NOW"
(ARTEMIS)
***1/2
These are dangerous times for rockers who speak their minds about politics -- witness the backlash against Linda Ronstadt for her relatively innocuous comments in Las Vegas; some fans are saying they'd like their musical heroes to just shut up and play their guitars. But politics have always been an inextricable part of Steve Earle's music -- they've simply come to the forefront as the issues of the day have become more urgent. Whether you agree with his opinions, you have to grant that the long-running roots-rocker not only has the courage of his convictions, but he voices them with a musical passion that more than matches the power and poetry of his opinionated lyrics.
Earle's last album, "Jerusalem" (2002), seemed hard to top: Emotional songs such as "John Walker's Blues" and the title track had a deeper impact than almost anything else released after and inspired by the events of 9/11, including most of the songs on "The Rising" by Bruce Springsteen. But "The Revolution Starts ... Now" is an even stronger effort. The political assaults, including the anti-imperialist anthems "The Gringo's Tale" and "Rich Man's War" (which could have been written by Woody Guthrie); the title track, which is effectively reprised at the end of the disc, and the veteran's lament "Home to Houston," are even more barbed and thought-provoking, and, with the exception of the stilted and pretentious spoken-word piece "Warrior," they rock with a melodic gusto that makes their messages all the more potent.
Though the political tracks will no doubt garner most of the attention and cause all of the controversy, Earle has never been more honest, heartfelt or moving in his relationship songs, which balance the album and underscore the tired adage that "all politics are personal." "Comin' Around" is a breathtakingly beautiful duet with the great Emmylou Harris; "I Thought You Should Know" is an intense musing on romance from the position of a someone who really knows the score ("If you're thinking of breaking my heart/You might as well pick up your little black dress and go," he croaks with
Posted by: Great American Patriot at August 22, 2004 07:43 PM
Sent you some more "treats," Ms. Alice!
Posted by: Liberal-at-large at August 22, 2004 07:37 PM
groovy l@l - i really love the ones you sent already so i'm sure i'll dig these too....
i'm waiting for them to come through now...my f*ing isp cut me off for 7 days - i'm quitting them - assholes....they're cheap but have to strict line parking rules...
i only will eat clams when i'm at fisherman's wharf...can't go there without having clam chowder in a sourdough bowl...but i spit the clams out in the trash nowadays....
:)
Posted by: Alice at August 22, 2004 07:45 PM
Ya that's my favorite tactic...piss the bull off then stand still as it charges down on me until it's close enough to baseball bat in the head...
I'm subtle like that.
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 07:45 PM
falling into a black hole of despair today over the soon-to-be-released swift boat ad accusing Kerry of "outing" his fellow veterans (rapes, cutting off ears and heads, etc.)...
How can CBS, NBC, ABC accept money for ads that are outright lies?
Kerry was NOT outing or betraying his fellow vets. He was repeating what 150 of them had already testified to at the winter soldiers forum... he was actually LAMENTING the fact that so many were filled with regret, haunted, by atrocities they felt forced to commit in an illegal immoral war.
COULD WE DEMOCRATS PICK ONE OF THESE NETWORKS, JUST ONE, AND E-MAIL THEM THAT WE WILL BOYCOTT THEIR NETWORK UNTIL THEY TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT THESE ADS AND REFUSE TO AIR THEM? NOT ALL 3, JUST ONE... DEMOCRATS ARE AT LEAST 50% OF THE POPULATION, WOULDN'T IT HURT THEM TO LOSE US?
I am filled with despair that this regime controls the entire mass media... all I have left is my friends right here at majority report radio...
I am sorry to write these words but I need hope from all of you that somehow we can defeat these fascists in the fall
Posted by: Frankie at August 22, 2004 07:45 PM
~not me...whatja hear?~
that the imam ali shrine was attacked by a u.s. tank. maybe i misheard. if it's true we'll know shortly, i guess.
~you know the myth of the man scorpio right?~
i don't think so...
what is it?
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 07:47 PM
oh, i'm just kidding you big galoot!
hee hee
Posted by: dadalux at August 22, 2004 07:38 PM
hey...isn't that Long Earred Galoot?!
hee hee
what's going on on your side of the country today dada?
Posted by: Alice at August 22, 2004 07:48 PM
piss the bull off then stand still as it charges down on me until it's close enough to baseball bat in the head...
..................................................
human with louisville slugger VS. mad raging BULL
i'm bettin on the bull.......
(his bats are more pointy)
Posted by: white cosmic world-bridger at August 22, 2004 07:48 PM
Is soy the next miracle food? Extensive research is starting to show the myriad of health benefits from soy, especially soy isoflavones. Isoflavones are phytochemicals that are part of the soy protein. To date, many different isoflavones have been identified, and each appears to have specific health implications. Isoflavones called daidzein and genistein may also help our bones conserve calcium and thereby reduce the risk of osteoporosis. Genistein is one of the isoflavones that is especially beneficial in lowering blood cholesterol levels. Some isoflavones are believed to have anticarcinogenic properties, which may inhibit the growth of cancerous cells. The positive health benefits of soy and isoflavones are clear.
How much do you need? There are no current recommendations for the amount of soy, or isoflavones, to consume each day for maximum health benefit. Some sources say 40-50 mg isoflavones, or 1-4 servings of soy products, per day appears to be enough to have an influence on our health. People in Asian countries tend to consume much more than this, so the ultimate word is still out, but, 40-50 mg isoflavones/day seems like a good place to start at this point.
Lynn Grieger, R.D., C.D., C.D.E
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 07:49 PM
Cat Sea,
I found you a great gardening assistant. He works cheap and is a great singer.
http://www.muchosucko.com/index.php?module=PostWrap&page=flash/werd.html
(sound required)
Posted by: W@W at August 22, 2004 07:49 PM
A Reuters story from just a little while ago about the bombing of Najaf:
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6038157
Posted by: DarkeningBolt at August 22, 2004 07:50 PM
That would be a poor bet if you're betting against the farm boy...
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 07:50 PM
I was I was. Bell bottoms, bra burning, long hair parted down the middle. And Protesting the War in Nam.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 07:41 PM
Feels like a trillion years ago, and yet the same feeling I get today. Similar conditions.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 07:43 PM
i can imagine, it must feel like deja vu to you. so based on your experiences, has the political scene progressed at all since then? or it all sucked then and it all sucks now? or what? what do you think?
:)
Posted by: Alice at August 22, 2004 07:51 PM
A political fusillade, just in time - pt 2 of 2
STEVE EARLE
"THE REVOLUTION STARTS ... NOW"
(ARTEMIS)
***1/2
Though the political tracks will no doubt garner most of the attention and cause all of the controversy, Earle has never been more honest, heartfelt or moving in his relationship songs, which balance the album and underscore the tired adage that "all politics are personal." "Comin' Around" is a breathtakingly beautiful duet with the great Emmylou Harris; "I Thought You Should Know" is an intense musing on romance from the position of a someone who really knows the score ("If you're thinking of breaking my heart/You might as well pick up your little black dress and go," he croaks with a mix of desire and repulsion), and "The Seeker" is an introspective but rambunctious consideration of aging.
Perhaps the disc's more endearing factor is that Earle doesn't take it all so seriously that he's forgotten how to laugh. "Condi, Condi" and "F the CC" provide lighthearted and infectious moments of gleeful, goofy fun, as the artist expresses unbridled lust for the National Security Adviser over a lilting reggae groove ("Sweet and dandy, pretty as can be/You be the flower, I'll be the bumble bee/Oh she loves me, oh she loves me not/People say you're cold, but I say you're hot") and minces no (verboten) words while taking dead aim at the FCC. Sure, these are easy targets, but Earle scores with winning humor.
Condoleezza Rice, hardcore conservatives and old-school Earle fans who resent being asked to think for themselves may find all of the above insulting and abhorrent. But for my money, "The Revolution Starts ... Now" stands with the very best work of his career, and it's one of the strongest and most timely discs I've heard this election year.
Jim DeRogatis
http://www.suntimes.com/output/entertainment/sho-sunday-earle22.html
Posted by: Great American Patriot at August 22, 2004 07:52 PM
not unless it's NOT a farm bull............
i was picturing professional attack bulls.........
Posted by: white cosmic world-bridger at August 22, 2004 07:52 PM
~you know the myth of the man scorpio right?~
i don't think so...
what is it?
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 07:47 PM
tee hee...i just woke up man...i can't even go there yet...ask me again in the middle of the night...i may feel like expanding on that later...right now i'll just blush....
:)
Posted by: Alice at August 22, 2004 07:53 PM
Tes I asked those questions of Shelly and I was very interested in those answers. If you remember correctly there was a time when Shelly completey disrupted the blog for everyone.
If perhaps I had gotten answers to my questions I could of provided some surcease to her pain with my words.
The very idea that my every word seems laden with vitriol and hate to you people saddens me beyond belief.
Look inside yourself for your answers because you can not see the emotions that drive my words. You can not attribute me with foul intent when I mean none.
And evil twin I do know that you attack me because you see me as attacking your ally, your friend, which btw I have not.
You are angry with me only because I disagreed with you. you are angry with me because you aren't getting the attention you feel that you deserve.
Finally you can kiss my ass because I will not suffer for the benefit of anyone who decides it necessary to punish me for their own lack of depth.
Please step up and face me...I would appreciate it dearly...Yes that would be good.
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 03:40 PM
HEY!!! wtf?????
Posted by: Alice at August 22, 2004 07:55 PM
~~~piss the bull off then stand still as it charges down on me until it's close enough to baseball bat in the head...~~~
Ole!
Posted by: Liberal-at-large at August 22, 2004 07:56 PM
piss the bull off then stand still as it charges down on me
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 07:45 PM
you might wanna re-consider that "bull" theory ... hehe ... Tony is not impressed
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 07:56 PM
professional attack bulls? I suppose they're secretly ninjas as well huh?
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 07:56 PM
It's already tomorrow!
Senate Republicans Weigh Dismantling CIA
Monday August 23, 2004 12:16 AM
AP Photo WX101
By MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN
Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) - Senate Intelligence Committee Republicans proposed removing the nation's largest intelligence gathering operations from the CIA and the Pentagon and putting them directly under a new national intelligence director.
etc
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-4443664,00.html
hmmm, do you think maybe the Dems should have a say too, Senator Roberts?
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 22, 2004 07:58 PM
Some Americans are obsessed with protein. Vegans are bombarded with questions about where they get their protein. Athletes used to eat thick steaks before competition because they thought it would improve their performance. Protein supplements are sold at health food stores. This concern about protein is misplaced. Although protein is certainly an essential nutrient which plays many key roles in the way our bodies function, we do not need huge quantities of it. In reality, we need small amounts of protein. Only one calorie out of every ten we take in needs to come from protein (1). Athletic performance is actually improved by a high carbohydrate diet, not a high protein diet (2). Protein supplements are expensive, unnecessary, and even harmful for some people.
How much protein do we need? The RDA recommends that we take in 8/10ths of a gram of protein for every kilogram which we weigh (or about 0.36 grams of protein per pound that you weigh) (1). This recommendation includes a generous safety factor for most people. When we make a few adjustments to account for some plant proteins being digested somewhat differently from animal proteins and for the amino acid mix in some plant proteins, we arrive at a level of 1 gram of protein per kilogram body weight (0.45 grams of protein per pound that you weigh). Since vegans eat a variety of plant protein sources, somewhere between 0.8 and 1 gram of protein per kilogram would be a protein recommendation for vegans. If we do a few calculations we see that the protein recommendation for vegans amounts to close to 10% of calories coming from protein [For example, a 79 kg vegan male aged 25 to 50 years. His RDA for calories is 2900 calories per day. His protein needs might be as high as 79 kg x 1 gram/kg = 79 grams of protein. 79 grams of protein x 4 calories/gram of protein = 316 calories from protein per day. 316 calories from protein divided by 2900 calories = 10.1% of calories from protein]. If we look at what vegans are eating, we find that between 10-12% of calories come from protein (3). This contrasts with the protein intake of non-vegetarians which is close to 15-17% of calories.
So, in the US it appears that vegan diets are commonly lower in prote
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 07:58 PM
Nik the link produces an error...
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 08:01 PM
HEY!!! wtf?????
Posted by: Alice at August 22, 2004 07:55 PM
I was hoping you knew ... I just figured I missed something
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 08:02 PM
Nik the link produces an error...
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 08:01 PM
r u not signed up for the overspill group?
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 08:03 PM
I was hoping you knew ... I just figured I missed something
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 08:02 PM
answer..................
grudge....anyone???
Posted by: white cosmic world-bridger at August 22, 2004 08:04 PM
Dole speaking from Crawford Texas? Is he helping clear brush or playing horse shoes with Bush?
Dole Questions Kerry's Vietnam Wounds
Monday August 23, 2004 12:01 AM
AP Photo NYLR101
By PETE YOST
Associated Press Writer
CRAWFORD, Texas (AP) - Former Republican Sen. Bob Dole suggested Sunday that John Kerry apologize for past testimony before Congress about alleged atrocities during the Vietnam War and joined critics of the Democratic presidential candidate who say he received an early exit from combat for ``superficial wounds.''
[snip]
Other Kerry supporters also rose to his defense.
``Senator Kerry carries shrapnel in his thigh as distinct from President Bush who carries two fillings in his teeth from his service in the Alabama National Guard, which seems to be his only time that he showed up,'' John Podesta, former chief of staff in the Clinton White House, said on ABC's ``This Week.''
etc
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-4443634,00.html
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 22, 2004 08:04 PM
I suppose they're secretly ninjas as well huh?
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 07:56 PM
I've trained Tony in th dark arts ... you're no match for his southern lotus attack
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 08:05 PM
Oh the anonymous friend earlier was claiming that I was picking on shelly at one point...This is back some weeks ago...
Last thread they were accusing me of being mean to shelly by asking her questions during a time when she went through her spam the blog time...
Yes again I'm obviously evil as hell...later I assume that someone will accuse me of animal cruelty because of the baseball bat comment.
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 08:06 PM
Why does Nobody have such a big reactionary bug up his ass?
Posted by: Lou at August 22, 2004 08:06 PM
Well "Lou" if I may call you that it comes from taking pot shots from the misinformen for 4 months straight...thanks for showing interest now will you kindly mind your own business or piss off?
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 08:08 PM
i can imagine, it must feel like deja vu to you. so based on your experiences, has the political scene progressed at all since then? or it all sucked then and it all sucks now? or what? what do you think?
:)
I have to think about that a little.
Alice, let me get my thoughts together on that question.
In a way it was much more innocent then, even with the problems.
Or maybe I was the innocent. I believed the war was wrong. Chicago was the worst for protesting.
Not a great time for the guys and gals coming back from Nam. They were messed up by that terrible war and people just ignored this. They turned into the bad guys because the protest against the war went to far. Instead of blaming the Gov. the military got the blame. Never want that to happen again.
These neocons are playing on that aspect and that is why they call everyone against the war unpatriotic and blame people for not supporting our troops.
More as I pull my thoughts together.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 08:10 PM
//Why does Nobody have such a big reactionary bug up his ass?
Posted by: Lou at August 22, 2004 08:06 PM//
Lou maybe he should learn to be much more of a liberal that believes in the value of the diversity of other peoples opinions. There is a lot to be learned from that.
Posted by: jerrybarnes at August 22, 2004 08:11 PM
I was hoping you knew ... I just figured I missed something
Posted by Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 08:02 PM
*nobody, can we just call a truce between us please?*
Posted by: Alice at August 22, 2004 08:12 PM
Naw Nik I haven't signed up for it...been busy with other things...Noses are very sensitive...hit that nose and they put the breaks on fast...
Without pictures just tell me the breed and the weight and I'll get the idea just fine ;)
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 08:12 PM
I don't think you're a troll Bridge. I just don't want you thinking you can jump in my shit without getting shitty. Us both being liberals... and against Bush and all... doesn't buy you that.
I have often complimented your posts and will continue to do so. I'll consider this particular instance not worth either of us remembering.
I did become more stern with you than I would have wished and I'm sorry for that. My bad.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 08:13 PM
Leo: (July 23—Aug. 22)
An attempt to popularize the book-length homilies of Laura Ingalls Wilder will result in professional wrestling's strangest phase yet.
http://www.timvp.com/lilhouse.html
http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=1617524
http://www.andrethegiant.com/photo24.html
http://store1.yimg.com/I/sportsgiftsusa_1808_65110228
Posted by: dadalux at August 22, 2004 08:14 PM
truce
n.
A temporary cessation or suspension of hostilities by agreement of the opposing sides; an armistice.
A respite from a disagreeable state of affairs.
tr. & intr.v. truced, truc·ing, truc·es
To end or be ended with a truce.
[Middle English trewes, pl. of trewe, treaty, pledge, from Old English trow. See deru- in Indo-European Roots.]
33333333333333333333333333333333333
ok, let's change that to whatever word means the same thing...except permanant...not temporary...
Posted by: Alice at August 22, 2004 08:15 PM
Alice hun it didn't have anything to do with you...You weren't attacking me...someone else used things I said to you that you obviously didn't mind near as much as they did to try and attack me...I have no ill feelings for you at all...
I mentioned your name only in passing because they rederenced you in particular to show a time when I was mean to someone.
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 08:16 PM
"Andre the Giant has a posse: 7'4" 500lbs..."
Posted by: DarkeningBolt at August 22, 2004 08:16 PM
"Andre the Giant has a posse: 7'4" 500lbs..."
Posted by: DarkeningBolt at August 22, 2004 08:16 PM
Do you know Melanie?
Posted by: terry wilke at August 22, 2004 08:18 PM
I should have know better than to ask for an honest reply and explanation from someone who is an expert in EACH AND EVERY POINT below projected onto me.
Raging testosterone never helps when it is time
to tell the truth.
----
"It's simple Bridge...
You're consistantly trying to sow discontent whenever you can.
You don't argue arguments you argue personalities.
I've yet to see you involved in any "debate" where you did not first cast aspersions on the charactor of those you argue against.
In short...I believe you to be a troll that's fond of appearing nickless and causing trouble...therefore I will treat you as such.
If you don't like it too damned bad.
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 07:39 PM"
Posted by: bridge at August 22, 2004 08:18 PM
Without pictures just tell me the breed and the weight and I'll get the idea just fine ;)
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 08:12 PM
Angus, 1200 ... he's pretty spy ... when he's really worked up he can jump up and do a 180 in mid air ... did I mention that yellowjacket was raised one of the local guys ...
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 08:18 PM
Alice,
Evil Twin/frank started that little debaucle earlier. He picked on Dada also.
Just wanted to stir things up on the blog.
It's over now so lets all go forward.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 08:19 PM
Yeah... save all the Nobody stuff for when he really IS being a prick.
*this unit is on snarkomatic*
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 08:21 PM
lets all go forward.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 08:19 PM
except Nobody ... he's a sidewindin scallywag!
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 08:21 PM
Do you know Melanie?
Posted by: terry wilke at August 22, 2004 08:18 PM
Probably not. Several years ago, like maybe 7 or 8 years ago, I went to this fashion show and met a couple of people who claimed to be doing an experiment in phenomonology. They had been putting stickers up in New York, Los Angeles, San Diego, etc. and had made stencils and a few other things using Andre's image with the logo "Andre the Giant has a posse..." Several years later the "Obey" brand of clothing came out using the same image of Andre. I'm not sure what the students were going for but, it seems to have worked...
Posted by: DarkeningBolt at August 22, 2004 08:22 PM
Peace children
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 08:23 PM
Yes indeed, Andre the Giant has a posse!
Posted by: terry wilke at August 22, 2004 08:23 PM
Actually Bridge I'll point to just yesterday...
You want truth? Then lets see how well you tell it.
Why did you claim that all my links were from a partuicular site yesterday? and that no one needed to go to my site because they could just go there instead? and why did you infer that I was taking claim for someone elses words? and why did you also then claim that I was trying to make a name for myself by ripping someone else off by using a free site?
And now bridge...why did you do these things since I've never even personally addressed you in months? or said a single derogatory thing to you before today?
Ya'll don't like testosterone?
Tell the truth Bridge...Why did you do those things?
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 08:24 PM
Alice hun it didn't have anything to do with you...You weren't attacking me...someone else used things I said to you that you obviously didn't mind near as much as they did to try and attack me...I have no ill feelings for you at all...
I mentioned your name only in passing because they rederenced you in particular to show a time when I was mean to someone.
Posted by Nobody at August 22, 2004 08:16 PM
fine. and that "hun" you wrote there
had best be meant respectfully...
Posted by: Alice at August 22, 2004 08:25 PM
Ya Nik....nothing like angus beef...I assume he's free range?...1200 is still small enough that he could move good...
Remember though at no point did I say that my strategy was fool proof not did I claim not to be a fool...
Running certainly wouldn't help ;)
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 08:27 PM
Peace children
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 08:23 PM
no shit - fuck this
see ya on the flip side blog
:)
Posted by: Alice at August 22, 2004 08:27 PM
Why did you do those things?
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 08:24 PM
well ... if bridge is like fish ... he/she has no clue ... its all a numbers game ...
[sports announcer] uh oh ... the bloggers don't seem to appreciate nik e poo brinin up THAT subject again ...
[booing and hissing from the bloggers]
[sports announcer] nik has just been beaned by a block of tofu! ...Oh!... thats gotta hurt!
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 08:28 PM
Since 1960, Eisenhower's warning has gone largely unheeded. Beginning with the rise of fascism and the elitism within the Reagan administration, the military keeps taking up a bigger portion of the budget, social welfare has been largely eliminated --just as it was eliminated in Nazi Germany. Today, under the regime of George W. Bush, it is clear that the corporations within the military-industrial complex are in control of the country. It allows Dick Cheney to pad his retirement account at Halliburton with millions of dollars of Halliburton overcharges for services not delivered in the Iraq War. Meanwhile, many of the soldiers are sent into combat without body armor.
http://argentina.indymedia.org/news/2004/08/217632.php
Posted by: ConBo at August 22, 2004 08:29 PM
of course it was Alice...sheesh...
See it really doesn't matter what I say someones gonna be offended.
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 08:29 PM
hey alice ... why not go yahoo for a sec
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 08:29 PM
ah ha! evil twin troll is also frank the troll
not to be confused with fine person frankie
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 08:30 PM
We could all be accused of being a pain in the ass at times, except the ladies of course, they always seem to rise above, but they have an unfair advantage...... they don't have testosterone poisoning.
Posted by: terry wilke at August 22, 2004 08:30 PM
... glad I caught a glimpse of this cause I have to sign off ...
No way was it my intention to jump into anything and I am glad you understand, Fishgrease;
forgotten -
and thanks for taking the time to post :)
Posted by: bridge at August 22, 2004 08:30 PM
Here how about I just post blank messages from now on and you can all choose why to be pissed off at me for yourselves..
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 08:31 PM
oh and terry if you email me I can send you petemoons email
For the rest of you...
[fill in your own reason to be pissed off here]
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 08:33 PM
oh and terry if you email me I can send you petemoons email
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 08:33 PM
you haven't recieved it yet????
Posted by: terry wilke at August 22, 2004 08:35 PM
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http://jeffcrook.20m.com/wateringthelawn.jpg
http://jeffcrook.20m.com/pepperbaby.jpg
http://jeffcrook.20m.com/rascal.jpg
http://jeffcrook.20m.com/port-gma.jpg
http://jeffcrook.20m.com/pepperbaby02.jpg
http://jeffcrook.20m.com/bodyarmor.jpg
http://jeffcrook.20m.com/trifecta.jpg
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 07:40 PM
___________________________________________
it's already starting
Posted by: ConBo at August 22, 2004 08:36 PM
Naw terry I'll check again though sec.
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 08:36 PM
>>except the ladies of course, they always seem to rise above, but they have an unfair advantage...... they don't have testosterone poisoning.<<
Hi Terry and Boys,
Sometimes after a blog session we ladies have to shower off the testosterone you boys throw around. Can't you just keep it a bit tidier for us? (sigh, as if...)
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 22, 2004 08:36 PM
There is one thing that liberals can learn from the conservatives: We can all learn to jump at the same issues at the same time. Liberals are independent and self-reliant, liberals take issue at being part of a pack, this very sense of non-conformity and willingness to defend the smallest details of philosophy is often the greatest strength of the liberal. However, when it comes to being unified in a forum like this, this self-actualization can be the greatest weakness because it leads to strife among the participants.
It's worth having voices of dissent, though. Otherwise we'd be like the sheeple who post to the freep blog or the "ditto-heads".
I prefer the frank exchange of ideas, even if the ideas expressed piss me off sometimes.
Just my opinion.
Posted by: DarkeningBolt at August 22, 2004 08:39 PM
Nope Terry it's not there...I'll send to you in a minute grabbed your email off you site...moment please.
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 08:39 PM
* Steve Earle Escalates The Political Debate *
In amongst all of that, the musician has dabbled as an actor, a playwright, a novelist and a short-story writer; crusaded tirelessly against the death penalty; gotten married -- and divorced -- six times
Posted by: Great American Patriot at August 22, 2004 07:25 PM
Six times!!
In the words of that knucklehead dittohead that Franken has on, "That one's gonna be hard to defend."
Posted by: W@W at August 22, 2004 08:40 PM
Hi Terry and Boys,
Sometimes after a blog session we ladies have to shower off the testosterone you boys throw around. Can't you just keep it a bit tidier for us? (sigh, as if...)
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 22, 2004 08:36 PM
We do try, it's just that.... well...... we're stupid.
Everybody knows that testosterone or any hormone for that matter impedes critical thinking
Posted by: terry wilke at August 22, 2004 08:42 PM
oh and just in case you don't hate me enough...
[insert epithet laden ad hominem attack here]
[insert your own name here]
love and kisses...
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 08:42 PM
Children fighting the US in Najaf. How depressing is this?
Posted by: DarkeningBolt at August 22, 2004 08:42 PM
[Nobody stepped on my toe!]
>:{
Posted by Nobody at August 22, 2004 08:33 PM
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 08:43 PM
eya tonid
remember the 60's and 70's well
was a lot going on, more peeps awake
now then there ever were before, subjects
we discuss fluently were mysteries then.
peeps that knew nothing about gummint
'whats a republican?' buds that were
troopers coming back mangled,
some have'nt smiled since
1968, still needing care
and bein pushed under
the rug of the new world order
they fought for, thinking the were,
defending democracy and the good ol USA!
i'd say there are a hell of a lot more
of us now then there were then!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 08:44 PM
important HEADLINE news you couldn't do without....
............................................
105-pound woman wins lobster-eating contest
Sunday, August 22, 2004 Posted: 1806 GMT (0206 HKT)
KENNEBUNK, Maine (AP) -- America's top speed-
eater wolfed down 38 lobsters in 12 minutes
Saturday to win the World Lobster Eating Contest.
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/US/08/22/lobster.championship.ap/index.html
Posted by: white cosmic world-bridger (13ben) at August 22, 2004 08:44 PM
Well said, DarkeningBolt.
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 22, 2004 08:45 PM
Nobody stole my shoe!
Posted by: terry wilke at August 22, 2004 08:45 PM
hee hee
any o u guys
think wimmen are the weaker sex?
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 08:46 PM
>>............................................
105-pound woman wins lobster-eating contest
Sunday, August 22, 2004 Posted: 1806 GMT (0206 HKT)<<
Now THAT'S a talent!
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 22, 2004 08:47 PM
Nobody stole my shoe!
Posted by: terry wilke at August 22, 2004 08:45 PM
But he saved my hamster from drowning!
Posted by: DarkeningBolt at August 22, 2004 08:47 PM
Sometimes after a blog session we ladies have to shower off the testosterone you boys throw around. Can't you just keep it a bit tidier for us? (sigh, as if...)
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 22, 2004 08:36 PM
...............................................
seeing how im only 13.... does this apply to me too.............
i try to balance my feminine side with my inherent masc.......
Posted by: white cosmic world-bridger (13ben) at August 22, 2004 08:47 PM
oh wait I forgot...
[invective you, you invective and your invective momma too]
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 08:48 PM
CNN is not the worst about giving superfluous news headlines but, it's fucking close...
Posted by: DarkeningBolt at August 22, 2004 08:48 PM
"Who Really Learned the Most Valuable Lessons from the 1960s?"
“Mr. Bush’s advisers said they were girding for the most extensive street demonstrations at any political convention since the Democrats nominated Hubert H. Humphrey in Chicago in 1968."
http://www.pressaction.com/news/weblog/full_article/mickeyz08222004/
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 08:49 PM
105-pound woman wins lobster-eating contest
Sunday, August 22, 2004 Posted: 1806 GMT (0206 HKT)<<
Now THAT'S a talent!
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 22, 2004 08:47 PM
Ironically, size doesn't seem to be a factor in the sport of extreme eating. The great Japanese hot dog eater, Takeru Kobayashi, is only 135lbs.
Posted by: W@W at August 22, 2004 08:49 PM
DID YOU'ALL SEE FRANKIE'S POST AT 7:45
WE CANNOT LET THESE SWIFT BOAT LIARS GET AWAY WITH THIS
Frankie is absolutely right. We need to start a protest of mainstream media. We need to plan it now. We should contact as many organizations and activist we know. We should set a date. Each person should be prepared to send 4 emails.
1 email to ABC
1 email to NBC
1 email to CBS
I email to the FCC
PLEASE LET'S DISCUSS THIS BLOGGERS.
WE MUST DO SOMETHING.
Posted by: Lucy Furr at August 22, 2004 08:50 PM
Evening guys and gals! How's it hangin'?
Posted by: Catharine at August 22, 2004 08:50 PM
PROTEST AT RNC GO TO WWW.UNITEDFORPEACE.ORG
LET YOUR VOICES BE HEARD-----
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 08:51 PM
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/US/08/22/lobster.championship.ap/index.html
"Thomas was coming off a baked bean victory days before in Indiana, where she consumed 8.4 pounds of beans with pork in 2 minutes and 47 seconds. She also holds records for hard-boiled eggs."
Sonya could give 'Cool hand luke' lessons!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 08:51 PM
>>Ironically, size doesn't seem to be a factor in the sport of extreme eating<<
Good thing to know.
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 22, 2004 08:51 PM
of us now then there were then!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 08:44 PM
Agreed Jim. Can't make the same mistakes again.
We do know a lot more now, but even with knowing we allowed this to happen again.
Balance and negotiations is what we need but WE don't have balance so we can't negotiate.
We MUST get rid of this admin.
I can't believe McCain!!!
I can't believe Dole!!!
What is bushco holding over these men. It does not sound like them at all. I cannot believe that they would want bush in again. Something there I can't put my finger on.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 08:51 PM
DID YOU'ALL SEE FRANKIE'S POST AT 7:45
WE CANNOT LET THESE SWIFT BOAT LIARS GET AWAY WITH THIS
Frankie is absolutely right. We need to start a protest of mainstream media. We need to plan it now. We should contact as many organizations and activist we know. We should set a date. Each person should be prepared to send 4 emails.
1 email to ABC
1 email to NBC
1 email to CBS
I email to the FCC
PLEASE LET'S DISCUSS THIS BLOGGERS.
WE MUST DO SOMETHING.
Posted by: Lucy Furr at August 22, 2004 08:52 PM
Hello Catharine, nice to see another gurlie on the blog.
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 22, 2004 08:52 PM
Lucy: Already sent some... but willing to do more... I am always for organized protest against media.
Posted by: Catharine at August 22, 2004 08:53 PM
any o u guys
think wimmen are the weaker sex?
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 08:46 PM
Not by a long shot, and to prove it, I almost posted a particularly stupid post just now, about females and their ......
Posted by: terry wilke at August 22, 2004 08:53 PM
DID YOU'ALL SEE FRANKIE'S POST AT 7:45
WE CANNOT LET THESE SWIFT BOAT LIARS GET AWAY WITH THIS
Frankie is absolutely right. We need to start a protest of mainstream media. We need to plan it now. We should contact as many organizations and activist we know. We should set a date. Each person should be prepared to send 4 emails.
1 email to ABC
1 email to NBC
1 email to CBS
I email to the FCC
PLEASE LET'S DISCUSS THIS BLOGGERS.
WE MUST DO SOMETHING.
Posted by: Lucy Furr at August 22, 2004 08:54 PM
"Tell the truth Bridge...Why did you do those things?"
You are accusing the WRONG poster, honey!
and
I always tell the truth. ALWAYS!
"Why did you claim that all my links were from a partuicular site yesterday? and that no one needed to go to my site because they could just go there instead? and why did you infer that I was taking claim for someone elses words? and why did you also then claim that I was trying to make a name for myself by ripping someone else off by using a free site"
I did no such thing.
A poster named BAH or BLAH or something like that (can't take the time to check yesterday's show time thread) did post something like the above in response of some Fun posts I made - everything in my posts was total humor.
Have no idea whether anything BAH/BLAH or so posted is correct or not - but I responded and said thanks, I think. Thought it was meant to be funny. I have never checked any of it.
I have no idea what the site, links, words, etc. the poster mentioned is all about. I took none of it serious or thought it was important enough to check - and if you do, that is your problem.
Btw. what my posts are concerned, I have absolutely nothing to hide. The webmaster knows which posts are mine.
It was a huge mistake to get involved with you in the first place re TROLLS and I consider this matter closed.
*signing off*
Posted by: bridge at August 22, 2004 08:55 PM
"Something there I can't put my finger on."
THAT is what's been bugging me for a very long time now...
I don't have the feeling that it's some thing held over them in particular...
More like they're let in on a "secret" and then they suddenly change stripes...
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 08:55 PM
HOW MUCH ARE WE PAYING FOR THIS TERRIBLE WAR--MEANWHILE THEY THE POLITICIANS WON'T ALLOW A PEACEFUL RALLY IN CENTRAL PARK.----- IT IS A TOTAL CONSPIRACY---AFRAID TO DESTROY THE GRASS === BUT KILLING THE IRAQI PEOPLE AND OUR SOLDIERS FOR OIL IS JUST FINE.
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 08:56 PM
Lucy, I think the Kerry site has a way to send out emails to the media. Let me check on this for the URL...
BRB
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 22, 2004 08:56 PM
Nik,
~~~ well ... if bridge is like fish ... he/she has no clue ~~~
Okay... I'm waiting for you to explain THAT one!
Sometimes I have a clue.
I do!
But right now I'm drawing a blank.
So, nevermind.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 08:56 PM
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 08:51 PM
Dole has always been kind of a tool of the conservatives but, I think that McCain actually loathes Bush so much that he is waiting until the RNC when he delivers his speech to fuck Bush. He's waiting until he has the largest forum possible before coming out against the Shrub...at least...this is my dream...
Posted by: DarkeningBolt at August 22, 2004 08:56 PM
Hey Catharine!
Are we going to be graced by your presence next week, have you decided yet?
Posted by: terry wilke at August 22, 2004 08:56 PM
Can You Forgive Them?
Ostracizing the people who were right on Iraq.
By Timothy Noah
Posted Friday, Aug. 20, 2004, at 5:03 AM PT
... William F. Buckley has stated, "[I]f I had known back then in February 2003 what we know now I would not have counseled war against Iraq." The New Republic has opined, "The central assumption underlying this magazine's strategic rationale for war now appears to have been wrong." Fareed Zakaria, a former Iraq hawk, now says the Bush administration's "strange combination of arrogance and incompetence has … destroyed the hopes for a new Iraq," which is a roundabout way of saying he was wrong to trust its use of military power there. Here at Slate, I gave last-minute support to the Iraq war because I believed (wrongly) that Colin Powell's famous Feb. 5 speech to the United Nations left no doubt about the presence of chemical and biological weapons in Iraq. (I'd still like to know what that wiretapped phone conversation concerning "forbidden ammo" was all about.) Had I known then what I know now, I, too, would have opposed the war
... some former hawks, like David Brooks and Kenneth Pollack, have enhanced their reputations for thoughtfulness by admitting that they botched this one. But the oddest outcome concerns not those who were wrong about Iraq, but those who were right. The political mainstream shuns them.
The Democratic nominee, you'll notice, is not Howard Dean, who opposed the Iraq invasion, but John Kerry, who favored it, and who now at least pretends to believe that his decision to support the invasion was sound. Walter Pincus, the skeptical hero of Howard Kurtz's admirably critical Aug. 12 examination of the Washington Post's Iraq blunders, is nonetheless described in that piece with condescension as a "white-haired curmudgeon" and a "crusader" (inside the Post, that's not a compliment) whose stories, as written, are unpublishable. It remains risky for most members of Congress to admit to even reading The Nation, much less agreeing with it, but many surely wish they'd heeded its editorial opposing the Iraq war resolution. Patrick Buchanan, who editorialized against going to war in the American Conservative and elsewhere, remains
Posted by: Prefasc Consultant at August 22, 2004 08:58 PM
>* Steve Earle Escalates The Political Debate *
In amongst all of that, the musician has dabbled as an actor, a playwright, a novelist and a short-story writer; crusaded tirelessly against the death penalty; gotten married -- and divorced -- six times
Posted by: Great American Patriot at August 22, 2004 07:25 PM
Six times!!
In the words of that knucklehead dittohead that Franken has on, "That one's gonna be hard to defend."
Posted by: W@W at August 22, 2004 08:40 PM>
Add into that, that he got on & off heroin addiction plus ballooned up & lost the weight and he has been a very busy man.
Jim, Steve Earle's bluegrass band is damn good. Give it a listen some time.
Should be a good premiere show, guests John Sayles & the Vietnam Vets Foundation President
Posted by: Great American Patriot at August 22, 2004 08:58 PM
Hey Cat-Sea... always good to see your voice (typing) of reason .
Posted by: Catharine at August 22, 2004 08:59 PM
Can You Forgive Them?
Ostracizing the people who were right on Iraq.
By Timothy Noah
Posted Friday, Aug. 20, 2004, at 5:03 AM PT
Posted by: Prefasc Consultant at August 22, 2004 08:59 PM
forum possible before coming out against the Shrub...at least...this is my dream...
Posted by: DarkeningBolt at August 22, 2004 08:56 PM
I am sorry to say that is a dream.
This just isn't right. Ominous! I don't like this at all.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 08:59 PM
~~~ I think that McCain actually loathes Bush so much that he is waiting until the RNC when he delivers his speech to fuck Bush. He's waiting until he has the largest forum possible before coming out against the Shrub...at least...this is my dream ~~~
I'm through giving him chances, but yeah, if he gives a speech that causes the conventioneers to start beating the crap out of one another and nominating Bush out... I'll be happy to reconsider.
Beyond that... I spit on him.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 09:00 PM
Fish,
What are these guys holed up in the Mosque doing for food and water?
Posted by: W@W at August 22, 2004 09:03 PM
There was a third-grader who spent his recess time drawing attention to himself.
He said he could outrun any of us. He couldn't.
He said he would beat us up. He didn't.
He said that he was the best kickball player. He wasn't.
He wove fantastic tales of his strength and heroism.
Usually, he was annoying. Sometimes we pitied him. Mostly, we tolerated him.
That was forty-one years ago. Since then, I have met that kid over and over again. He is still trying to convince us that he is faster, stronger and smarter than the rest of us.
Sometimes I pity him for annoying the very people he hopes to impress. Mostly, I tolerate him.
Posted by: Crank Bait at August 22, 2004 09:04 PM
OUR MEDIA SUCKS --- IT WORKS FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO CREATE THE LIES THAT CONTINUE WITH THIS ADMINSTRATION.------ THE MEDIA IS ALOT TO BLAME BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL OWNED BY BIG CORPORATIONS---- WHICH CONSTANTLY LIE.
WWW,DEMOCRACYNOW.ORG THIS WHERE YOU CAN FIND THE TRUTH.
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 09:05 PM
Beyond that... I spit on him.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 09:00 PM
If he doesn't denounce the Chimp, I'll be right there hawking the loogies with you! If McCain is as big of a whore as he has appeared to be in the past week or two then, he deserves no respect.
Posted by: DarkeningBolt at August 22, 2004 09:05 PM
oops.. spoke to soon .. gotta go ... 6 feet under on! Nobody.. maybe you're giving yourself too much credit.. maybe you only piss people off when you're wrong... oooooooooohhhh... hisssss* That's right... I said it... and *ping* *ping* .. two tofu blocks tossed at Nik e and Nobody... stop watching John Stossel for your info on health food! (hee hee)... and now I run!
Posted by: Catharine at August 22, 2004 09:05 PM
Chronomancy
is the science and art
of fourth-dimensional time
considered as a whole system
where science is knowledge
and art is practice...
Chronomancy
has specific application
as an intrinsically divinatory
and oracular comprehension
of events set within
the holographic framework
of the interdimensional
information system
which connects the three levels:
galactic,
stellar,
planetary...
Posted by: white cosmic world-bridger (13ben) at August 22, 2004 09:06 PM
It remains risky for most members of Congress to admit to even reading The Nation, much less agreeing with it, but many surely wish they'd heeded its editorial opposing the Iraq war resolution. Patrick Buchanan, who editorialized against going to war in the American Conservative and elsewhere, remains
Posted by: Prefasc Consultant at August 22, 2004 08:58 PM
And how about our own Janeane, where are all the apologies to her from the jackass' that took pot shots.
Remember that little comment she made about hoping she was wrong; that she would “crawl before the White House on her knees on broken glass to apologize”, well they had a field day with that one at the time, but where are they now eh?
Posted by: terry wilke at August 22, 2004 09:07 PM
There is one thing that liberals can learn from the conservatives: We can all learn to jump at the same issues at the same time. Liberals are independent and self-reliant, liberals take issue at being part of a pack, this very sense of non-conformity and willingness to defend the smallest details of philosophy is often the greatest strength of the liberal. However, when it comes to being unified in a forum like this, this self-actualization can be the greatest weakness because it leads to strife among the participants.
It's worth having voices of dissent, though. Otherwise we'd be like the sheeple who post to the freep blog or the "ditto-heads".
I prefer the frank exchange of ideas, even if the ideas expressed piss me off sometimes.
Just my opinion.
Posted by: DarkeningBolt at August 22, 2004 08:39 PM
______________________
At the risk of being a sheeple, I agree with these
statements
Posted by: ConBo at August 22, 2004 09:07 PM
http://volunteer.johnkerry.com/speakout/letter/
The Kerry site makes it easy to send an email to many newspapers all at once.
Instructions:
If you would like to use our letter writing tool, please select up to 5 publications by checking the box next to the publication name. After you click continue you will be able to compose your letter.
You can either choose to automatically send your message via email or you can choose to print your message and send it via U.S. Mail. If you choose to send it via U.S. Mail we will provide you with the necessary contact information for each paper you select.
--------------------------------------------------
Yesterday I sent a letter to a couple of local newspapers regarding some stories I thought they should have carried.
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 22, 2004 09:09 PM
Well I don't mind being wrong Cath...I just prefer to have it shown where and how I'm wrong rather than being called names ;)
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 09:09 PM
here is some really dark shit
watch at your own risk
i think its appropriate given the situation
mario brothers
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=107784
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=113889
---
f-ed up, huh?
here's mario with a shotgun that you control!
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=86294
helter skelter baby
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=81358
Posted by: dadalux at August 22, 2004 09:09 PM
What are these guys holed up in the Mosque doing for food and water?
Good question. There was a bunch of stuff donated that was delivered there as late as 6 days ago. Also, the area around at least one of the entrances is still controlled by AL Sadr's guys. Concievably, someone could get stuff through the Old City to there, but with what we've heard about snipers (the press says snipers on both sides but I cannot imagine Al Sadr's snipers firing on people bringing them food) perhaps that could be tough.
My guess? Things are getting pretty slim around there. Hell, they're getting slim in all of Najaf!
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 09:10 PM
Dole has always been kind of a tool of the conservatives but, I think that McCain actually loathes Bush so much that he is waiting until the RNC when he delivers his speech to fuck Bush. He's waiting until he has the largest forum possible before coming out against the Shrub...at least...this is my dream...
Posted by: DarkeningBolt at August 22, 2004 08:56 PM
___________________________
something to pray for!
oh man that would be so freakin cool!
Posted by: ConBo at August 22, 2004 09:15 PM
We are back to this again.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/comment/story...
Accentuate the positive
Fighting back with all guns blazing is the only method by which John
Kerry can defeat negative advertising, says Philip James
Friday August 13, 2004
Two cardinal laws govern negative advertisements. One: they work. Two:
the way to combat them is to answer fire with fire. The John Kerry
campaign seems to be overlooking both at their peril.
When an attack ad from the Republican slime brigade Swiftboat Veterans
for Truth - which claimed that Kerry's Vietnam heroism was a fraud -
surfaced last week, the initial response of the Kerry campaign team was
to ignore it.
Surely, they thought, reasonable-minded people would never take
seriously the scurrilous charge that Kerry did not deserve his medals
for valour. Surely it would backfire. Besides, it was only running in
three states in minor media markets, so only a few people would see it
anyway.
But it hasn't worked out that way. The ad picked up a ton of free media
coverage, precisely because its charges are so outrageous.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 09:19 PM
A tall man in a white dishdasha grabs me by the shoulders. "We hated Saddam, why? Because Saddam Hussein didn't give freedom," says the man, who gives his name only as Mohammad. "Now [Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad] Allawi and the Americans are like Saddam. They describe us as uneducated, but I am an engineer, he is a doctor, he is businessman. We want peace, not war, but if they want to kill our leader, Sayid Moqtada al-Sadr, we will either die, or gain victory."
http://www.rense.com/general56/jounr.htm
Posted by: ConBo at August 22, 2004 09:20 PM
Don't know about you guys, but I thought Kerry did a damn good job of refuting the Swift Boat Liars.
The media want him to react immediately to every attack. That's not his style. He's methodical.
Posted by: W@W at August 22, 2004 09:20 PM
>> He's waiting until he has the largest forum possible before coming out against the Shrub...at least...this is my dream...<<
Aaaahhh.... a good dream
A dream is a wish your heart makes
when your fast asleep.
In dreams, you will lose your heart-ache
whatever you wish for you keep.
Have faith in your dreams and someday
your rainbow will come shining through...
no matter how your heart is grieving, if you keep on believing
The dream that you wish will come true.
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 22, 2004 09:23 PM
My letter to the editors:
How is it that an electrician from the northern suburbs of Chicago knows the truth about the swift boat ads and the connections to the Bush administration, but some journalists don’t? Is it that the truth is somehow seen as partisan? Continue down this path and you yourselves will be seen as just another Fox News type outlet. Some journalists have seen fit to dig up the details just as I have, I would ask that you do the same and do your jobs. Where is your journalistic integrity? If this is not “front page news” what is?
Articles like “Friendly Fire: The Birth of an Anti-Kerry Ad” by Kate Zernike and Jim Rutenburg, Published August 20, 2004 in the New York Times as well as an article titled “Swift boat skipper: Kerry critics wrong” By Tim Jones with Rick Pearson contributing, Published August 22, 2004 in the Chicago Tribune, should make all journalists proud of there profession, putting ones career on the line for accuracy in reporting is nothing less than heroic. I for one would like to thank William Rood for his service, bravery and honor in 1969 and again for the same today. William, you honor every Veteran and every family member of a Veteran with your bravery.
Thank you!
Posted by: terry wilke at August 22, 2004 09:23 PM
did everybody go on a mario rampagae???? - i scored 64.... heh heh.................
Posted by: white cosmic world-bridger (13ben) at August 22, 2004 09:23 PM
To support and encourage free speech worldwide.
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We have a strong belief in and committment to the protection and strengthening of the individual's rights to free speech, a free press, and privacy, and to the encouragement of communication between all individuals without regard to national borders, the wishes of tyrants and statists, or the constraints of political correctness.
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Posted by: at August 22, 2004 09:23 PM
Terry,
~~~ We do try, it's just that.... well...... we're stupid. ~~~
*Fishgrease raises his hand, mistakingly thinking we're supposed to raise our hands if we're stupid*
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 09:24 PM
no matter how your heart is grieving, if you keep on believing
The dream that you wish will come true.
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 22, 2004 09:23 PM
Or you will die and not care anymore!
Posted by: terry wilke at August 22, 2004 09:24 PM
US deal 'wrecks Middle East peace'
Conal Urquhart in Tel Aviv
Monday August 23, 2004
The Guardian
The US was yesterday accused by Palestinian leaders of destroying hopes for peace in the Middle East by giving its covert support to Israel's expansion of controversial settlements in the West Bank.
American officials are privately admitting they have abandoned their demands that Israel freeze settlement activity, and have given Jerusalem tacit permission to build thousands of new homes on the disputed land.
Palestinians fear that the expansion of settlements will make it impossible to establish a viable state on the land Israel took from Jordan in the 1967 war.
Ahmed Qureia, the Palestinian prime minister, said the US position would destroy the peace process, and Amr Moussa, secretary general of the Arab League, said America's unilateral redrawing of the road map was "a very grave development".
Publicly, the US still upholds the road map, which calls
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1288826,00.html
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 09:25 PM
Well after reviewing the logs...I believe that I owe Bridge an apology...Didn't notice that he was reposting something someone else said...
sigh...
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 09:25 PM
Anger as Bush bids to exploit Olympic games
Lawrence Donegan in Athens
Monday August 23, 2004
The Guardian
President George Bush stood accused of appropriating the Olympic movement for political means last night, amid reports he was planning to visit Athens later this week to watch some sporting events, including a potential gold-medal winning bid by the Iraqi football team.
According to unconfirmed reports in the US, the White House is examining the logistical and security implications of Mr Bush travelling to the Greek capital in time for Saturday's football final. Iraq, whose progress to the semi-finals of the tournament has been one of the games' most captivating stories, will meet Paraguay tomorrow night for a possible place in the finals.
The Greek foreign ministry confirmed last night that the US secretary of state, Colin Powell, will be in Athens for the closing ceremony.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1288686,00.html
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 09:29 PM
jeez... wish gwb would attend a footbal game in najaf...................
Posted by: white cosmic world-bridger (13ben) at August 22, 2004 09:31 PM
He's even trying to use the Olympics now.
RRRUUUGGGHHH!!!!!
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 09:31 PM
So say it. I AM SORRY. There is a difference between owing and paying. Nice to acknowledge a debt. But that does not pay it. Say it!
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 09:34 PM
AP 2130ET -- WASHINGTON
A spokesman for the Bush/Cheney campaign today denied charges that the campaign had employed "smear tactics" against Democratic Challenger John Kerry and stated that anyone maintaining that they had employed "smear tactics" was probably a "pedophile wanted in four states" and "a terrorist" and "a member of several subversive organizations seeking to remove Jesus Christ our Lord from public schools".
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 09:35 PM
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 09:29 PM
The Iraqi soccer team has publicly denounced Bush's use of them in his bid for election. One of them, I believe his name is Sadir, even went so far as to say that if he had been not playing soccer, he would be one of the fighters defending Najaf.
I don't think Bush is going to get much traction from this latest ploy.
Posted by: DarkeningBolt at August 22, 2004 09:35 PM
Great letter, Terry. Good work, as usual!
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 22, 2004 09:35 PM
Eat shit nickless...I owe YOU nothing
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 09:36 PM
I'm sorry, bridge
There, I said it
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 09:38 PM
A new Bush campaign ad pushes the theme of an "ownership society," and concludes with President Bush declaring, "I understand if you own something, you have a vital stake in the future of America…”
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Remarks made by U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) Secretary Alphonso Jackson during a hearing before the Committee on Financial Services of the U.S. House of Representatives. At the hearing, Jackson informed the Committee that he does not talk about housing programs for the poor because…
"being poor is a state of mind, not a condition."
– HUD Secretary Alphonso Jackson on May 20, 2004.
To read more about the remarks, go to:
http://www.house.gov/banking_democrats/pr052004.html
Posted by: Star Vox at August 22, 2004 09:40 PM
>>Terry,
~~~ We do try, it's just that.... well...... we're stupid. ~~~
*Fishgrease raises his hand, mistakingly thinking we're supposed to raise our hands if we're stupid*
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 09:24 PM<<
And this is why I love my blog brothers! You keep me smiling!
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 22, 2004 09:41 PM
So, nevermind.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 08:56 PM
Just an Atheo-Stochasticalist joke ... feel free to ignore the comment ...
gotta go water the animals ... its been dry here
brb
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 09:41 PM
God I really need to get busy on fixing this moronic blog...
This software was never meant for this situation and it's exploited daily...
The unscrupulous will always win in these situations...
and again nickless...eat shit
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 09:42 PM
The role of military medicine in these abuses merits special attention because of the moral obligations of medical professionals with regard to torture and because of horror at health professionals who are silently or actively complicit with torture. Active medical complicity with torture has occurred throughout the world. Physicians collaborated with torture during Saddam Hussein's regime.52 Physicians' and nurses' professional organisations have created codes against participation in torture.25-26,31,53,54 Physicians in Chile, Egypt, Turkey and other nations have taken great personal risks to expose state-sponsored torture.25,26,55 Health professionals have created organisations including Physicians for Human Rights and Amnesty International's Health Professionals Network. Numerous non-medical groups have asserted that healers must be advocates for persons at risk of torture.25,26,31,32,56
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/MIL408A.html
Posted by: ConBo at August 22, 2004 09:42 PM
Terry,
In addition to the New York Times documentation story and the Chicago Tribune testimony of the only other Swiftboat Commander who was there the Washington post has documented the anatomy of the swiftboat liars & inconsistancies.
People should remember that personal phone calls and physical letters have more impact than emails.
Posted by: GAP at August 22, 2004 09:43 PM
did everybody go on a mario rampagae???? - i scored 64.... heh heh.................
Posted by white cosmic world-bridger (13ben) at August 22, 2004 09:23 PM
i knew that was you 13ben....i emailed you yesterday..hope it made it over...
:)
Posted by: Alice at August 22, 2004 09:43 PM
In response to Jackson’s statement, Representative Rubén Hinojosa issued the following statement:
"I have never heard a more offensive and ludicrous statement in all my years in Congress. I welcome the Secretary to come to the 15th Congressional District, spend a night in a border colonia and then re-evaluate his statement. I challenge him to experience life in a home with dirt floors, no running water, power, or sewage and then say poverty is a state of mind.
"When a child goes hungry in our country are their stomach pains a state of mind? When a teenager develops rickets from malnutrition is this a simple case of an overactive imagination? When a senior citizen dies from cholera because of exposure to unsanitary water resources, will the Secretary console their family with these infamous words?
"But through the outrage, the greatest disappointment from today's hearing is to learn that the Administration has charged such an insensitive individual with the goal of providing decent and safe housing to the 32.9 million Americans who currently live in poverty."
Response from Representative Hinojosa:
http://hinojosa.house.gov/news/pressrelease.cfm?id=442
To read more about Jackson and Bush’s “ownership society” plan, go to:
http://www.cbpp.org/8-16-04hous.htm
http://www.theportlandalliance.org/2004/july/hudprotests.htm
Posted by: Star Vox at August 22, 2004 09:44 PM
I hate Laura Bush as well. Look what is happening with stem cell research!
Aug. 22, 2004. 03:40 PM
Discovery of potential stem cells could aid diabetics
FROM CANADIAN PRESS
A group of Canadian researchers has made a discovery of potential stem cells in the pancreas, a finding that could not only one day lead to new treatments for diabetes but also change the way scientists understand the way cells develop.
The lead scientists of the study have identified individual cells in the adult mouse pancreas that are capable of making insulin-producing "beta cells." These beta cells make up the tissues in the organ that release insulin and help regulate the body's blood sugar levels.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 09:46 PM
People should remember that personal phone calls and physical letters have more impact than emails.
Posted by: GAP at August 22, 2004 09:43 PM
Good on you brother!
Posted by: terry wilke at August 22, 2004 09:47 PM
"Former POW resigns from Bush campaign"
"Aug. 22, 2004 | WASHINGTON -- A former POW resigned as a volunteer to President Bush's re-election campaign Saturday after it was learned that he appeared in an anti-John Kerry ad sponsored by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth"
http://www.salon.com/news/wire/2004/08/22/pow/index.html
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 09:47 PM
To read more about Jackson and Bush’s “ownership society” plan, go to:
http://www.cbpp.org/8-16-04hous.htm
http://www.theportlandalliance.org/2004/july/hudprotests.htm
Posted by: Star Vox at August 22, 2004 09:44 PM
____________
they are messing with HUD?
Bush is the anti-christ, this settles it for me
or at least he is one of them.
:{
Posted by: ConBo at August 22, 2004 09:53 PM
Letter to the editor:
HUD Secretary Alphonso Jackson wants to loosen the income eligibility requirements for the Section 8 housing voucher program ("A Housing Plan in Need of Repair," August 6). Three-quarters of housing vouchers must now go to households with income at 30% or less of their area median (for example, $19,500 a year in Dallas, TX). Mr. Jackson asserts that this policy "discriminates" against those who are working hard. Never mind that 57% of current voucher holders are in the workforce and another 39% are elderly and disabled people on fixed incomes.
Mr. Jackson and other HUD officials have complained this year that one of the reasons why the voucher program costs so much is that it is serving people who are too poor. A voucher pays the difference between 30% of a tenant's household income and the contract rent on the unit. In Mr. Jackson's logic, if HUD could only serve a more prosperous class of people, vouchers would cost less. That way HUD can cut the funds for the program and still claim to help the same number of people.
The Bush Administration's flexible voucher proposal is nothing more than elaborate cover for its desire to cut domestic spending to do something about the mounting federal deficit it has created with reckless tax cuts.
(Letter to “The New York Times” from NLIHC President Sheila Crowley
In Response to HUD Secretary Alphonso Jackson Op-Ed "A Housing Plan in Need of Repair" on 8/6/04) can be found at:
http://www.nlihc.org/press/pr080804.html
To learn what you can do to take action, go to:
http://www.nlihc.org/
Posted by: Star Vox at August 22, 2004 09:55 PM
People should remember that personal phone calls and physical letters have more impact than emails.
Posted by: GAP at August 22, 2004 09:43 PM
Good on you brother!
Posted by: terry wilke at August 22, 2004 09:47 PM
I've had success with faxes. Hard copies are harder to ignore than emails.
Posted by: W@W at August 22, 2004 09:55 PM
Like Machiavelli, the German political philosopher Leo Strauss also taught that the elite, who transcend moral absolutes, should exploit religious faith in order to autocratically control the masses. Strauss became convinced, as a result of his experience of World War I, that faith in human nature without God, as it was exalted in the Enlightenment, was mistaken. He saw religion as the indispensable opiate of the people. Deception, for Strauss, was a necessity in political life, and he considered religion to be a desirable “pious fraud” – a fraud to be encouraged as a means of control, through the imposition of “moral law”. Religion is necessary for the people, he advised, but the rulers themselves – not bound by the same moral laws they preach and impose on others – should maintain only an outward form of religion, a convincing façade...
...But then, as George Bush joked at a Gridiron Club dinner in Washington, D.C., the advice he had been given was clear: “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on.” The whispers of Machiavelli that echoed in the halls of the Holy Roman Empire six centuries ago still resonate today: “There is one prince of the present time, whom it is not well to name, who never preaches anything else but peace and good faith, and to both he is most hostile…”
http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_11116.shtml
Posted by: ConBo at August 22, 2004 09:58 PM
"America's Disease is Greed"
"The most serious spiritual problem in the country today is reckless and untrammeled greed. Greed caused the disgraceful corporate scandals that fill our newspapers. Greed is responsible for crooked cops and crooked politicians. Greed causes the constant efforts to destroy unions that protect basic worker rights."
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0820-09.htm
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 10:00 PM
Okay... so Drudge posted an outright rumor that Bush might attend the Olympics in Greece... one he either got from a very shady source or one Drudge simply made up. THEN Drudge posts a thing from NBC's Jim Lampley wherein Lampley mentions Drudge... as if Drudge is proud that he can get his name mentioned on the Olympics just by posting outright crap on his website.
NO real journalist should EVER mention Drudge lest they be categorized with him as a hack.
Congratulations, Jim Lampley, on the loss of every bit of your credibility.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 10:01 PM
Instructions from Kerry
The difference was that Kerry, who had tactical command of that particular operation, had talked to Droz and me beforehand about not responding the way the boats usually did to an ambush.
We agreed that if we were not crippled by the initial volley and had a clear fix on the location of the ambush, we would turn directly into it, focusing the boats' twin .50-caliber machine guns on the attackers and beaching the boats. We told our crews about the plan.
The Viet Cong in the area had come to expect that the heavily loaded boats would lumber on past an ambush, firing at the entrenched attackers, beaching upstream and putting troops ashore to sweep back down on the ambush site. Often, they were long gone by the time the troops got there.
The first time we took fire--the usual rockets and automatic weapons--Kerry ordered a "turn 90" and the three boats roared in on the ambush. It worked. We routed the ambush, killing three of the attackers. The troops, led by an Army adviser, jumped off the boats and began a sweep, which killed another half dozen VC, wounded or captured others and found weapons, blast masks and other supplies used to stage ambushes.
Meanwhile, Kerry ordered our boat to head upstream with his, leaving Droz's boat at the first site.
It happened again, another ambush. And again, Kerry ordered the turn maneuver, and again it worked. As we headed for the riverbank, I remember seeing a loaded B-40 launcher pointed at the boats. It wasn't fired as two men jumped up from their spider holes.
We called Droz's boat up to assist us, and Kerry, followed by one member of his crew, jumped ashore and chased a VC behind a hooch--a thatched hut--maybe 15 yards inland from the ambush site. Some who were there that day recall the man being wounded as he ran. Neither I nor Jerry Leeds, our boat's leading petty officer with whom I've checked my recollection of all these events, recalls that, which is no surprise. Recollections of those who go through experiences like that frequently differ.
With our troops involved in the sweep of the first ambush site, Richard Lamberson, a member of my crew, and I also went ashore to search the ar
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 10:04 PM
hope you liked the mario
do yourself a favor and watch "captain lou albano's steady descent into madness"
http://www.eviltrailmix.com/animutation/
Posted by: dadalux at August 22, 2004 10:04 PM
With our troops involved in the sweep of the first ambush site, Richard Lamberson, a member of my crew, and I also went ashore to search the area. I was checking out the inside of the hooch when I heard gunfire nearby.
Not long after that, Kerry returned, reporting that he had killed the man he chased behind the hooch. He also had picked up a loaded B-40 rocket launcher, which we took back to our base in An Thoi after the operation.
John O'Neill, author of a highly critical account of Kerry's Vietnam service, describes the man Kerry chased as a "teenager" in a "loincloth." I have no idea how old the gunner Kerry chased that day was, but both Leeds and I recall that he was a grown man, dressed in the kind of garb the VC usually wore.
The man Kerry chased was not the "lone" attacker at that site, as O'Neill suggests. There were others who fled. There was also firing from the tree line well behind the spider holes and at one point, from the opposite riverbank as well. It was not the work of just one attacker.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 10:05 PM
Toni, don't worry bush ain't going. Also some of the Iraqi soccer team repudiated him.
Thats another lie that was put out by sludge boy that is BS.
Amazing thing is that ABC Olympics announcer Jim Lampley reported that crap as a drudge story reading that crap on air early this afternoon. ABC should have just debunked it and never acknowledge the many lies & gossip boy sludge.
Nobody, I don't think there will be much of a change until after the RNC as it will be a busy time here from now on.
I do think that the software should make it so you have to put in a nick in order to post. I have to type in mine every time so sometimes I just type GAP.
Posted by: GAP at August 22, 2004 10:05 PM
"America's Disease is Greed"
"The most serious spiritual problem in the country today is reckless and untrammeled greed. Greed caused the disgraceful corporate scandals that fill our newspapers. Greed is responsible for crooked cops and crooked politicians. Greed causes the constant efforts to destroy unions that protect basic worker rights."
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0820-09.htm
_________________________________
It's true!
People think they can control their lives thru
the control of material objects
Kinda dumb if you think it thru
Posted by: ConBo at August 22, 2004 10:06 PM
u gotta realize 'we'
believe 'we' ain't got no patience
with imperfect peeps in the political
arena as soon as you surface as a peep of
power there are people paid to gather the dirt
on you. anyone bucking the system is reminded of
that toot sweet and this is why blackmail
has been an important factor in this
countries political process at
least from the days of the
hoover FBI. theres a
lotta de boys who are
paid well to stir shit up
so peeps get the wrong ideas about
things and peeps as well so there is
no focus developed against their plans.
thing is we have a whole 'class' of priveleged
peeps that ain't earned a dime of their
fortunes and their afraid we'll turf
em when we figger it out. peasant
rebellions are way bloody too.
these assholes are planning
on being able to kill off
a buncha us off as 'dissidents'
so i'm tellin ya this is whats at stake here!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 10:07 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3583658.stm
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 10:10 PM
L@L!!! Thank you so much! KITTIE is so great!!
dada...i'm listening to you now...
what happend to the last band you were in?
:)
Posted by: Alice at August 22, 2004 10:11 PM
An eye for an eye will only leave the world blind. - Mahatma Gandhi
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 10:11 PM
do yourself a favor and watch "captain lou albano's steady descent into madness"
http://www.eviltrailmix.com/animutation/
Posted by: dadalux at August 22, 2004 10:04 PM
________________
their was something extremely gratifying
about watching that
made my stress headache go away
Nice
Posted by: ConBo at August 22, 2004 10:11 PM
these assholes are planning
on being able to kill off
a buncha us off as 'dissidents'
so i'm tellin ya this is whats at stake here!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 10:07 PM
Thanks Jim.
The Younguns don't understand.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 10:12 PM
>Congratulations, Jim Lampley, on the loss of every bit of your credibility.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 22, 2004 10:01 PM>
Before you go jumping all over Lampley, we don't know if he was just reading what was written for him on the teleprompter or if that was his own report. Many times on air talent(in the UK they are called 'Presenters') just read what is on the teleprompter like Ron Burgundy in the movie Anchorman. If that is the case then it is the newswriter and or producer that is responsible for approving and/or writing that sludge.
Posted by: GAP at August 22, 2004 10:14 PM
"old jam"....i like this one a lot...nice trip out and relax music...
i watched wrestling every saturday with my nona...she was sooooo catholic and prayed like all the time...but for some weird reason she always loved Big Time Wrestling....(pat patterson dayz)
wrestling got way lame in it's later dayz and now imo...
Posted by: Alice at August 22, 2004 10:15 PM
The name dropping thing would be really easy to fix...except like I said this software was no designed to deal with these issues...basically this blog is an overworked message board...
I just gotta get cracking on it...archiving crap on my blog is taking up too much of my time though...Any volunteers?
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 10:15 PM
*
If people focus
on the real issues,
like the war in iraq,
the economy, job losses,
and Bush's cowardice in the
Vietnam war, the neocons will lose!
*
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 10:16 PM
While Kerry has made much of Democratic Party unity, it is Republicans who have the more committed voters today. Typical Kerry voters cannot give reasons for their allegiance to him, but can readily give voice as to why “anybody but Bush” will do.
In Boston last week, voters heard John Kerry mouth such banalities as ''We can do better'' and ''I will do more,'' but virtually omitting the fine print of just what he plans to actually do.
Expect President Bush to also unveil his plan for a second term at the convention. He will promote Social Security savings accounts and call for his previous tax cuts to be made permanent. In recent days, he has called for troop reductions within the broad theater of Europe--some 170,000 troops and family members. He will call for meaningful tax reform, meaning a serious look at the IRS and ways to eliminate its impact. Most importantly, he will stress to the American people that the war against terror will not end regardless who is elected on November 2.
For his part, John Kerry can do little but react. The ''Swift Boat Veterans for Truth'' ads and book sales have rattled his campaign. Kerry has not answered the questions put forth to him by the vets--any more than he has answered the question about what he would do in Iraq. For Kerry, the object has always been to somehow adopt all possible positions without ever committing to one. In the end, this will be his undoing.
The GOP convention is a golden opportunity to force Senator Kerry to play ''ketch-up,'' and force Kerry to define himself yet again to the electorate. If Republicans are bold in their ideas come convention time, Kerry will have a hard time doing what he has to date failed to do: capturing the voters’ attention with reasons as to why they should vote for him. With two months left until Election Day, there will be little reason to think that Kerry could offer something now. The ''anybody but Bush'' candidate could have much to worry about on the morning of September 3.
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 10:16 PM
Damn! I forgot to tune in Steve Earle Premiere show. Its on now!
See you guys later :)
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 10:18 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3583658.stm
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 10:10 PM
k...don't even say "particle collider" around me...it's a trigger phrase ok....lmao!!
:)
Posted by: Alice at August 22, 2004 10:19 PM
PLEASE READ J.G. AND SAM:
Can you make a list of positive things you would see with Kerry running the country from '05 on.
I can contribute if you like.
And likewise please find a guest of the neo-con variety and ask him to describe some of the positive things he or she might see from Bush in '05 and beyond.
Mostly just having J.G. do this on the air would make me swoon like a swoon monster.
Posted by: Shiney McShine at August 22, 2004 10:19 PM
they are messing with HUD?
Bush is the anti-christ, this settles it for me
or at least he is one of them.
:{
Posted by: ConBo at August 22, 2004 09:53 PM
Yes! HUD Secretary Alphonso Jackson has recently suggested proposals to change the Section 8 housing voucher program.
From the policy analysis, it appears that there will be more people competing for programs with fewer budget dollars. If implemented, it will most likely mean that more people will become homeless.
It was one of the topics discussed on The Laura Flanders Show earlier. It is definitely a topic that needs to be discussed more in my opinion.
To read more about Jackson and Bush’s “ownership society” plan, go to:
http://www.cbpp.org/8-16-04hous.htm
http://www.theportlandalliance.org/2004/july/hudprotests.htm
Posted by: Star Vox at August 22, 2004 10:20 PM
these assholes are planning
on being able to kill off
a buncha us off as 'dissidents'
so i'm tellin ya this is whats at stake here!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 10:07 PM
Thanks Jim.
The Younguns don't understand.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 10:12 PM
Enemy combatants is what the dissidents
are being labeled as
Posted by: ConBo at August 22, 2004 10:20 PM
"Party Hacks"
"Election chiefs trim voter rolls to benefit GOP"
"It’s the kind of preaching so common in conservative circles that it slips past the public. In May, a Minnesota state official told a prayer group in May, the “five words” that are “probably most destructive” in the nation today are “separation of church and state.”
http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article_rss/party_hacks/
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 10:21 PM
In other violence Sunday:
A suicide attacker detonated a car bomb alongside the convoy carrying a deputy provincial governor, Bassam al-Khadran, in the town of Khalis, north of Baghdad. The blast killed two people and injured 14 others, including al-Khadran, Iraqi officials said.
In Jur al-Nadaf, 12 miles south of Baghdad, attackers sprayed a police vehicle with machine-gun fire, killing two policemen before fleeing, said Col. Adnan Abdul-Rahman of the Interior Ministry.
In Mosul, 225 miles northwest of Baghdad, gunmen opened fire on a car, killing an Indonesian citizen and injuring a Filipino, hospital officials said. Two Iraqis, the car’s driver and a bodyguard, were also killed in the attack, Dr. Dhia Taha said.
In the southern city of Basra, an Iraqi intelligence officer kidnapped nearly a week ago and threatened with death if U.S. and Iraqi forces did not end the violence in Najaf was found dead, his body riddled with bullets, police said Sunday.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5685031/
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 10:21 PM
http://phys.columbia.edu/faculty/greene.htm
Brian Greene...
Ph.D. Date: 1987
University: Oxford University
Area of study: String Theory, Quantum Gravity
Posted by: Alice at August 22, 2004 10:22 PM
While Kerry has made much of Democratic Party unity, it is Republicans who have the more committed voters today. Typical Kerry voters cannot give reasons for their allegiance to him, but can readily give voice as to why “anybody but Bush” will do.
posted by goat_boy_69
Yo ho, ever heard of survival. How's that for unity amongst the masses.
Posted by: Shiney McShine at August 22, 2004 10:22 PM
Radio talk show wonks will soon get an earful of something they've rarely experienced in San Diego: lefties with a mean right hook.
Here is the new KLSD/1360-AM talk radio weekday lineup:
6 a.m. to 9 a.m.: Stacy Taylor, a longtime San Diego radio host who is currently heard on KOGO/600-AM in the evenings, will host a talk show dealing with local political and social issues.
9 a.m. to noon: Al Franken with Air America.
Noon to 3 p.m.: Ed Schultz of the Jones Radio Network.
3 p.m. to 6 p.m.: Randi Rhodes, a South Florida talk radio host with Air America.
6 p.m. to 9 p.m.: San Diego's Ray Lucia with financial and lifestyle advice.
9 p.m. to Midnight: Lionel, WOR, New York.
Midnight to 3 a.m.: Air America's "The Majority Report," with Janeane Garofalo and Sam Seder.
3 a.m. to 6 a.m.: Air America's "Morning Sedition," with Mark Riley and Marc Maron.
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 10:24 PM
i watched wrestling every saturday with my nonie...she was sooooo catholic and prayed like all the time...but for some weird reason she always loved Big Time Wrestling....(Gorgeous George dayz)
Buahahahahahaha! Roflao! me too, me too!
we used to get herded in to 'rosary time'
and gramma knew alla de bells an whistles!
i did notice that as it got closer to wrestling
time the the Elapsed Times on the hail mary's
shrank considerably in duration! trick was to
fart around long enuff at the start to edge
into the wrestling time zone! (am handling
her rosary now, as a tear rolls down my cheek)
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 10:25 PM
"Party Hacks"
"Election chiefs trim voter rolls to benefit GOP"
"It’s the kind of preaching so common in conservative circles that it slips past the public. In May, a Minnesota state official told a prayer group in May, the “five words” that are “probably most destructive” in the nation today are “separation of church and state.”
http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article_rss/party_hacks/
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 10:21 PM
____________________
most Christians do understand that
a state run church will quickly turn into a Church
who worships the state
it's infuriating to me
Posted by: ConBo at August 22, 2004 10:25 PM
Actually at one point Bush is quoted as saying that liberals and/or democrats are enemies of the state...I forget which...His father is on record as saying that athiests shouldn't be considered citizen...so why not?
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 10:25 PM
ConBo that's mostly about possible election fraud in that article...it's not about 'christians'
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 10:27 PM
Enemy combatants is what the dissidents
are being labeled as
Posted by: ConBo at August 22, 2004 10:20 PM
or anarchist.
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 10:28 PM
Signing off
xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo
Posted by: terry wilke at August 22, 2004 10:31 PM
ConBo that's mostly about possible election fraud in that article...it's not about 'christians'
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 10:27 PM
_____________
i know
but that still angers me
Posted by: ConBo at August 22, 2004 10:32 PM
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 10:34 PM
With thousands of demonstrators coming to New York, Mr. Bush's aides said they expected competition for attention but said that posed more of a risk for Democrats than for Republicans. Even though Democrats are not involved in organizing the protests, some of the participants are almost certain to be aligned with traditionally Democratic groups, like labor and environmentalists, and Republicans made clear they would seek to link Mr. Kerry and the Democratic Party to any disorder.
"I think the Democrats are going to have to be careful about not letting the protesters get out of hand," Mr. Gillespie said. "The line between the official Democratic Party and labor protesters, environmental protesters and antiwar protesters is fairly blurry, and I'm not sure they want to have Democrats engaging in violence in New York against our convention. It would seem disrespectful and antidemocratic."
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/22/politics/campaign/22repubs.html?pagewanted=2&th
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 10:36 PM
"...and Republicans made clear they would seek to link Mr. Kerry and the Democratic Party to any disorder."
-------------------
Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
Posted by: Crank Bait at August 22, 2004 10:42 PM
Toni that link comes up to the wrong story...
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 10:42 PM
"The line between the official Democratic Party and labor protesters, environmental protesters and antiwar protesters is fairly blurry, and I'm not sure they want to have Democrats engaging in violence in New York against our convention. It would seem disrespectful and antidemocratic."
When are these folks going to wake up to the fact that you don't have to be a Democratic party member to despise what the Republican party and Bush are doing, just a decent human being.
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 10:43 PM
ooops I mean wrong part of the story...excuse please...
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 10:44 PM
Instead of blaming the Gov. the military got the blame. Never want that to happen again.
These neocons are playing on that aspect and that is why they call everyone against the war unpatriotic and blame people for not supporting our troops.
More as I pull my thoughts together.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 08:10 PM
WOW!! Tonid thank you a lot for sharing your thoughts about that time...
>Instead of blaming the Gov. the military got the blame. Never want that to happen again.<
THAT one realy got me...
yes please tell more and you too sunshine - i love other people's memories...
my daughter AJ i'll call her, she just got a job at the local long term care facility and is just in love with all the elders there....she likes to hear their memories too...she's my step kid, but we have a lot in common.
specifics like what you said up there tonid...that is simple to understand and very well said imo.
i've always felt really sorry about the horror stories of vietnam vets and what they endured...
Posted by: Alice at August 22, 2004 10:45 PM
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 10:45 PM
"When are these folks going to wake up to the fact that you don't have to be a Democratic party member to despise what the Republican party and Bush are doing, just a decent human being."
Well when this sort of thing quits?...
"Republicans said they would seek to turn any disruptions to their advantage, by portraying protests by even independent activists as Democratic-sanctioned displays of disrespect for a sitting president."
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 10:46 PM
GUEST COLUMNIST
Chipping Away at the Wall
By DAHLIA LITHWICK
Americans shouldn't have to be religious in the closet, but that doesn't give public officials the right to exercise their religion at the expense of everyone they serve.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/22/opinion/22lithwick.html?th
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 10:47 PM
goodnight, Terry~
http://www.eviltrailmix.com/animutation/
I liked the Jesus H. Christ one...it made me wish Ernest would go places again.
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 22, 2004 10:47 PM
Oh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Thieves Grab 'The Scream' From Norwegian Museum
The Scream'
(AP)
Times Headlines
From Associated Press
OSLO, Norway — Armed, masked thieves burst into a lightly guarded Oslo museum today and snatched the Edvard Munch masterpiece "The Scream" and a second Munch painting from the walls as stunned visitors watched in shock.
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 10:48 PM
(am handling her rosary now, as a tear rolls down my cheek)
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 22, 2004 10:25 PM
SO COOL! sunshine...i have my nona's rosary too!!! i collect religious jewelry sometimes....have a huge rosary collection now that i love because they hold the person's intense energy.....
psychometry...you know that sort of stuff.
:)
Posted by: Alice at August 22, 2004 10:48 PM
Toni that link comes up to the wrong story...
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 10:42 PM
Sorry, didn't post it was on page two of that story, toward the middle.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 10:49 PM
two tofu blocks tossed at Nik e and Nobody... stop watching John Stossel for your info on health food! posted by: Catharine at August 22, 2004 09:05 PM
why I outta! ... I would not even consider listening to John Stossel ... geez ... gimme some credit ... my sources are sooo granola head ... they are outside the mainstrean granola mind set ... I make the Bragg family look like a Hostess cupcake executives ...
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 10:52 PM
np Toni...I went and got the right link...you're hard to keep up with sometimes ;)
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 10:52 PM
Iraqi Olympians denounce 'criminal' Bush
http://212.2.162.45/news/story.asp?j=114880320&p=yy488yxz6&n=114881080
Posted by: ConBo at August 22, 2004 10:53 PM
Nobody,
Sometimes you really have to dig into the story.
Wish that writer would have put that part of it up top so that scan readers would have seen it right away.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 10:55 PM
Please pass around!!!
http://www.draftresistance.org/
This site is a crime against the Military Selective Service Act. It advocates. We are specifically encouraging resistance to the registration laws of the United States, seeing registration as the necessary step toward conscription (the draft). We are what the Selective Service calls 'anti-war intellectuals.' We see the direct link between registration, the draft, and aggressive war. Remember, non- registration is the strategy to beat the draft. If enough of us refuse, there is nothing they can do!
-- Scott A Kohlhaas
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 10:56 PM
That story was a bit annoying the way it jumped around but after all they work at the NY times...
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 10:57 PM
ASK QUESTIONS THIS IS AMERICA!!!
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 10:58 PM
Iraqi Olympians denounce 'criminal' Bush
http://212.2.162.45/news/story.asp?j=114880320&p=yy488yxz6&n=114881080
Posted by: ConBo at August 22, 2004 10:53 PM
Bush is probably gonna declare them combatants and put them in Guantanamo.
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 11:01 PM
I certainly knew it would happen. I have no delusions about the kind of people that rule this nation. A 16th century shrine wall blown away like nothing. What is at the heart of all of this? Sure, it is about the oil. Sure, it is about imperialism. But it is deeper than that.
It is about that good old boy racist center of America that has never died. How dare those A-Rabs? How dare they have all that oil. How dare that have shrines with golden domes. What are they doing living in the garden of Eden. Adam and Eve was white. How dare they have the hanging gardens, one of the seventh wonders of the world. How can they have 5,000 years of recorded history, they arent civilized. We deserve that land. We deserve that history. We are intittled to it.
The Zionists, Oh yeah those damn conniving, maniplutive vipers. They are all over this mess. Thet created it. Did you ever wonder were all that Anti- Arab rhetoric came from. You know where it came from. The Zionist despise Arabs. They are still angry about World War II. Somebody got to pay for what Hitler did. But it want be the Germans. As a matter of fact, Europe want give up a single acre. Look at those Arabs. Somebody better give us some land. The Arab's land, thank you very much, we'll take it. They don't deserve it. They don't know anything about commerce. We are God's chosen people dammit. If you dare challenge us , we will call you Anti-Semite, though we aren't really Semites. The Arabs and African are the true Semites, but they don't matter. They aren't white. They don't deserve to be call that. We are unique. You see we have the status of being white in America and Europe. But to justify our thievery of Palestinian land, and genocide of their people, we are Semites. I'm African when its convenient and white when it is convenient. I'm going to keep on draining your treasury for my benefit. It's about 3 trillion and counting. You go on with your failing schools and pathetic health care, we'll keep buliding those plush homes on the Palestinian's land. You keep sending those boys and girls to die. We are God's chosen people.
Obviously Bloggers, I am angry tonight. I guess it's time for my xanax cocktail. I thin
Posted by: Lucy Furr at August 22, 2004 11:01 PM
We see the direct link between registration, the draft, and aggressive war.
-- Scott A Kohlhaas
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 10:56 PM
-----------------------
And I see a direct link between an overstuffed military budget and aggressive war.
The easier it is to wage war, the easier it is to wage war.
Posted by: Crank Bait at August 22, 2004 11:02 PM
http://www.thisisrumorcontrol.org/
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 11:03 PM
Obviously Bloggers, I am angry tonight. I guess it's time for my xanax cocktail. I thin
Posted by: Lucy Furr at August 22, 2004 11:01 PM
just say no to SRIs!!! Please!
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 11:03 PM
http://www.thisisrumorcontrol.org/
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 11:03 PM
I thin
Posted by: Lucy Furr at August 22, 2004 11:01 PM
---------------------
Lucy Furr is Desi Arnaz?
"I thin, therefore I am."
Posted by: Crank Bait at August 22, 2004 11:07 PM
desi is dead and was an asshole.
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 11:08 PM
Bush is probably gonna declare them combatants and put them in Guantanamo.
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 11:01 PM
______________
I hope not! But that is likely, since that story
got no press here, and therefore no protection for
them.
It was extremely brave of them to speak up like that
Posted by: ConBo at August 22, 2004 11:09 PM
Obviously Bloggers, I am angry tonight. I guess it's time for my xanax cocktail. I thin
Posted by: Lucy Furr at August 22, 2004 11:01 PM
__________________
ah xanax, my old friend!
I forgot about xanax!
Posted by: Conbo at August 22, 2004 11:13 PM
Oh, I just thought of something; the TV ads during the debate, you know they'll be up to the same old lie and smear tactics.
What will we have in response?
Not a defensive position, I hope!
Do you suppose they kerry folks, moveon.org, act ect. have already thought about this?
Hope so!
Posted by: terry wilke at August 22, 2004 11:20 PM
And I see a direct link between an overstuffed military budget and aggressive war.
War on Iraq, not just about the oil. Easiest way to steal tax dollars and stuff your Haliburton buddies' pockets...
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 11:21 PM
Court Upholds DNA Blood Test for Parolees
http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/news/world/9435248.htm
Posted by: Conbo at August 22, 2004 11:25 PM
War on Iraq, not just about the oil. Easiest way to steal tax dollars and stuff your Haliburton buddies' pockets...
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 11:21 PM
Probably not about oil at all, in fact doesn't extra high oil prices serve the same end, in that American oil companies are now making stratospheric profits?
Posted by: terry wilke at August 22, 2004 11:27 PM
mario brothers cap'n lou video...!YES!...that was great...
:)
Posted by: Alice at August 22, 2004 11:28 PM
I hesitate to ask, but, what would you all do if bush gets in again?
Iknow what I would like to do.
Just wondering.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 11:29 PM
And I see a direct link between an overstuffed military budget and aggressive war.
Posted by at August 22, 2004 11:21 PM
I agree ... I think we should have no standing army ... only nukes ... thats a recipe for peace
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 11:30 PM
Anyone listen to 'The Revolution Starts Now' Steve Earle premiere show?
I missed the first 20 mins. Did he have Jon Sayles on?
Did anyone record it?
I'm not sure if it will be archived because of the music cuts that are played. They could archive it without the music cuts and they would be fine.
Posted by: GAP at August 22, 2004 11:30 PM
I hesitate to ask, but, what would you all do if bush gets in again?
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 11:29 PM
what wouldn't I do?
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 11:31 PM
Steve Earle is good. Very good interviewer.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 11:32 PM
Even better ... we should distribute nukes to all the countries of the world ... then we would have world peace
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 11:32 PM
Insurection Reserection!!!
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 11:33 PM
Probably not about oil at all, in fact doesn't extra high oil prices serve the same end, in that American oil companies are now making stratospheric profits?
Sort of like living through the fabulous 1970's energy crisis again... Few wanted to believe that the oil companies were gouging us.
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 11:33 PM
Sunshine, you still with us?
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 11:34 PM
Easiest way to steal tax dollars and stuff your Haliburton buddies' pockets...
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 11:21 PM
And don't forget about the old trick of privatizing national assets.
The ideology of the Chicago boys ruined South Americas economy, it was only a matter of time before some neocon cracker thought "gee if it worked so well in South America why not try an oil rich country?".
Posted by: terry wilke at August 22, 2004 11:34 PM
Blog getting really extra long to load now :(
== NEW THREAD NEEDED ==
I'll be back when a new thread is up
== NEW THREAD NEEDED ==
Posted by: GAP at August 22, 2004 11:35 PM
Few wanted to believe that the oil companies were gouging us.
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 11:33 PM
Actually that crisis was (at least in part) designed by Carter ... it was a smart move ... he was trying to get people to clue into stuff like conservation, alternate energy and the like ... adjusted to 2004 dollars ... the gas prices were over $5/gal ... many experts predict we will hit $4/gal this year and not go back down ... I gues Carter was right after all ... People hated him for it ... I guess the truth hurts ...
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 11:36 PM
Ok really this time
Good night!
xoxoxoxoxoxo
Posted by: terry wilke at August 22, 2004 11:37 PM
night terry!
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 11:38 PM
I was thinking of the "shortages," earlier in the 70's than Carter, '73 or '74?
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 11:39 PM
Ok you people goin to NYC ... here are some Tshirts:
- "I'm not with stupid"
- "I use the Partiot Act and its not just cause its soft and absorbant."
- [pic of Bush & Cheney with whiskers] "Secrets are for Pussies"
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 11:40 PM
Toni, was John Sayles on the beginning of Steve Earles show?
Posted by: GAP at August 22, 2004 11:41 PM
Bush Aides, in Shift, Say Oil a Drag on Economy
Sun Aug 22, 5:01 PM ET Add Politics to My Yahoo!
By Adam Entous and Jeremy Pelofsky
CRAWFORD, Texas (Reuters) - President Bush (news - web sites)'s economic advisers are warning that high energy prices have become a drag on the U.S. economy and not merely a threat to growth, chipping away at Bush's upbeat election-year projections and increasing pressure on him to act.
Treasury Secretary John Snow warned on Friday that, "We're seeing some slowing in the United States directly attributable to high energy prices."
Gregory Mankiw, chairman of Bush's Council of Economic Advisers, went farther on Sunday, warning in a letter published in The New York Times: "High energy prices are now a drag on the economy, as well as a strain on family budgets."
The warnings appeared to be part of a concerted shift in tone by Bush's top economic advisers, who for months have sought to minimize the risk of an economic slowdown in the run-up to the November presidential election.
Bush's economic advisers have long described high energy prices as a threat or a burden to the U.S. recovery, but they said the impact was mostly being felt abroad rather than at home.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=578&e=4&u=/nm/20040822/pl_nm/campaign_bush_oil_dc
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 11:43 PM
Jimmy you asleep early on this 600+ long blog?
Posted by: GAP at August 22, 2004 11:44 PM
I was thinking of the "shortages," earlier in the 70's than Carter, '73 or '74?
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 11:39 PM
so you mean the whole thing where arab nations cut off the US for supporting Israel ... hmmm ... I suppose that could happen again ...
Of course, I would be for anything that cuts the US fuel supply ... I'm an unrepentant environmentalist ... I would be happy if Bush's whoring and Saudi dick sucking fails to maintin the flow of oil ... [nik rubs hands together and laughs maniacally]
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 11:45 PM
Don't Think Steve Earle started yet. This is Mike Molloy right after Laura Flanders.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 11:46 PM
This is Mike Molloy right after Laura Flanders.
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 11:46 PM
yes .. its Mike ... thats why I loaded up Al Franken from AirAmericaPlace ... Mike chapps my hide!
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 11:47 PM
Pablo.
http://www.muchosucko.com/index.php?module=PostWrap&page=flash/werd.html
Posted by W@W at August 21, 2004 05:45 PM
________________________________
Economic Prosperity Slide @ the RNC!!!
Things are lookin up in Crackerville Montra...
Posted by: pablo at August 22, 2004 11:48 PM
Wish I had some extra scratch. I like the t-shirts here:
http://www.agitproperties.com/index.php?cPath=2&osCsid=51e11a83c8a74e5448d6fb31fc85b67d
Posted by: at August 22, 2004 11:48 PM
Strong oil prices set Kuwait on road to huge surplus
Sat Aug 21, 1:13 PM ET Add Top Stories - AFP to My Yahoo!
KUWAIT CITY (AFP) - OPEC (news - web sites) member Kuwait is well set to achieve a budget surplus in excess of 11 billion dollars in the current fiscal 2004/2005 due to soaring oil prices and higher output, local economic reports forecast.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040821/ts_afp/kuwait_oil_economy_040821171324
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 11:50 PM
ok ... what does a guy have to do to get a rise out of you liberals?!?
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 11:51 PM
No knows if Jon Sayles was on the first 1/3rd of Steve Earles show I missed??
sleep well you early to bed Terry
Posted by: GAP at August 22, 2004 11:51 PM
Ok you people goin to NYC ... here are some Tshirts:
- "I'm not with stupid"
- "I use the Partiot Act and its not just cause its soft and absorbant."
- [pic of Bush & Cheney with whiskers] "Secrets are for Pussies"
Posted by Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 11:40 PM
ROTFLMAO!! (shakes head in awe of nik's wit)
those are original nik's right? not like the astrology from earlier?....
:)
Posted by: Alice at August 22, 2004 11:52 PM
those are original nik's right?
Posted by: Alice at August 22, 2004 11:52 PM
I came up with them ... only to find that the first and last were already thought up by someone else ... I guess great minds think alike ... #2 is all Nik E Poo ...
Hi Alice! Will no-one take up the counterpoint to my point about nukes? I feel like this blog is inadequetly knee-jerk on atomics!
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 11:55 PM
#2 is all Nik E Poo
huh. ... that rhymes
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 11:57 PM
Ok Nik I'll play...make your case ;)
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 11:58 PM
Toni,
Steve Earle finished his show almost a hour ago. It started at 10 PM Eastern.
I thought you had listened to it. I hope they archive it because I missed the first 1/3rd.
reruns on now till 6 AM Eastern when the boys from Morning Sedition are back from vacation
Posted by: GAP at August 22, 2004 11:58 PM
Nik,
Do you mean your point about giving every country nukes?
Crazy idea.
Too many crazy leaders in the world!!!!
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 11:59 PM
Sorry GAP. I must have missed it also.
Does he just have an hour show?
I heard someone being interviewd but didn't know who it was.
Posted by: tonid at August 23, 2004 12:02 AM
Alice, speaking of astrology ... did you know that the following people were born on your day:
- Lee Strasberg ("method" acting inventor)
- Martin Scorcese
- Rock Hudson
- Danny De Vito
- Lauren Hutton
- Mary Elizabeth Masterantonio
So ... [John Lovitz voice] ACTING!
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 23, 2004 12:02 AM
Time for me to bid adieu for the night.
Tomorrow!!!
Posted by: tonid at August 23, 2004 12:06 AM
Toni that was the guy that was President of Vietnam Veterans Foundation. Jon Sayles was also supposed to be on the show.
Yes its a 1 hr show.
Jim probably is doing some doggers walking and/or evening meal.
Posted by: GAP at August 23, 2004 12:07 AM
adieu
Posted by: Nobody at August 23, 2004 12:07 AM
sweet dreams Toni...
going to watch late night olympics in 25 mins
beauty of an Olympics! Oompah!!
Posted by: GAP at August 23, 2004 12:10 AM
Ok Nik I'll play...make your case ;)
Posted by: Nobody at August 22, 2004 11:58 PM
Too many crazy leaders in the world!!!!
Posted by: tonid at August 22, 2004 11:59 PM
Here's how things would be different/better ... assuming the distribution of nukes occured when we had enough to destroy the world 10 times over (roughly 1968) ...
- No Wars
- Roughly 30 trillion US tax dollars not set fire to (adjusted to 2004 dollars and assuming US maintaining only nukes ... no standing army)
- Another 40 trillian non-US dollars not set fire to
to start ...
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 23, 2004 12:10 AM
We could have exceeded the he Millennium Development Goals (MDGs)
which include (for a measly $40-$70 billion additional assistance per year) would:
1. Eradicate extreme poverty and hunger
· Halve the proportion of people with less than one dollar a
day
· Halve the proportion of people who suffer from hunger
2. Achieve universal primary education
· Ensure that boys and girls alike complete primary
schooling
3. Promote gender equality and empower women
· Eliminate gender disparity at all levels of education
4. Reduce child mortality
· Reduce by two thirds the under-five mortality rate
5. 5. Improve maternal health
· Reduce by three quarters the maternal mortality ratio
6. 6. Combat HIV/AIDS, malaria and other diseases
· Halt and reverse the spread of HIV/AIDS
· Halt and reverse the spread of malaria & tuberculosis
7. 7. Ensure environmental sustainability
· Integrate sustainable development into country policies
and reverse loss of environmental resources
· Halve the proportion of people without access to potable
water
· Significantly improve the lives of at least 100 million
slum dwellers
8. Develop a global partnership for development
· Increase official development assistance, especially for
countries applying their resources to poverty reduction
· Expand market access
· Encourage debt sustainability
http://econ.worldbank.org/files/13269_wps2819.pdf
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 23, 2004 12:14 AM
... #2 is all Nik E Poo ...
Posted by Nik E Poo at August 22, 2004 11:55 PM
#2!!!!!! LMAO!!! GET IT?!! - >"I use the Partiot Act and its not just cause its soft and absorbant."< HAHAHAHA!! That’s the one that cracked me up the most of the three anyway….
... did you know that the following people were born on your day:
- Lee Strasberg ("method" acting inventor)
(I sorta remember this one)
- Martin Scorcese
(I knew this one)
- Rock Hudson
(and this one)
- Danny De Vito
(yes)
- Lauren Hutton
(yes because she got to be with RICHARD GERE in AMERICAN GIGOLO…and I love
- Mary Elizabeth Masterantonio
(this i did not know…she rocked in scarface man!)
So ... [John Lovitz voice] ACTING!
(Yes…but there are tons more that aren’t in that realm aren’t there? It’s been moons since I’ve been into astrology at all….but now I’m gonna look it up…
Posted by Nik E Poo at August 23, 2004 12:02 AM
[John Lovitz voice] THANK YOU!
:)
Posted by: Alice at August 23, 2004 12:16 AM
IF you vote for GWB you fit into one of the below categories
Imperialist Dictator,
Skin Heads,
Klan,
Deuchebags,
Crackers and
Lunatic repubie Bible Belter
Devils
All others fit into one of the above categories to lesser or greater extent even if you do make over $200,000 a year.
or like JG says you've got a mental disorder!
You are clear'd to attend one of the GWB/Cheney rallies. Enter & be mesmerized by SATAN's SONs.
Posted by: pablo at August 23, 2004 12:16 AM
Of course ... I might also suggest that international politics would be taken much more seriously ... for example ... if the whole middle east had nukes .... what would the incentive be for negotiations ... I think quite a bit
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 23, 2004 12:18 AM
If your country is ruled by a nut ... what are the chances that people will rise up and boot the bum? ... think no Saddam, Noriega, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, etc etc
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 23, 2004 12:19 AM
Speaking of nukes, lyrics from Tom Lehrer's
excellent "Who's Next?"
Fun read, funner listen.
Album: That Was the Year That Was
(From the television show "That Was The Week That Was") Date: 07/01/1965
Scroll down page a bit---
http://www.sing365.com/music/Lyric.nsf/Who's-Next-lyrics-Tom-Lehrer/77C8BE7B6C1B3E6A48256A7D0025576E
Posted by: at August 23, 2004 12:19 AM
Interesting theory Nik...
However, Not every country would've been able to afford upkeep and accidents would've ensued.
The "arms race" would've then had more dimensions to it and would've bankrupted more countries.
The countries with nukes and no food would've had to sell them to who could afford them and you would've seen a slightly different aggregation but they would still aggregate into the wealthier hand...
I'm not even going to discuss the possible stupid wars that could've happened.
The Major players would've still pursued the same "industry" as a money sink.
And finally here's a better plan...should've spent the money on humanitarian projects and only said that we had nukes...maybe make a few to psyche people out with...
So in short...you're wrong...neener...neener ;P
Posted by: Nobody at August 23, 2004 12:21 AM
mMan.... mMaannn...
John Kerry dumped my stash in the Mekong Delta waters...
I swear on bushes AWOL drunken coke snorting driving under the influence...
cooool mMan!
Rasta Maan... Vibraaations yeah!
its a reggae music....
roots.... rock... reggae...
its a reggae music...
Rasta Maan... Vibraaations yeah!
Posted by: Spleef Boat Smokers at August 23, 2004 12:22 AM
Tom Lehrer's "Who's Next?" sound file download (2.6 MB)
http://www.espew.com/cgi-bin/spew/32880/whosnext.mp3
Posted by: at August 23, 2004 12:22 AM
i'm back
back porch cleaned up, store run
dinner made and doggers walked and fed!
hoo! worked up a sweat!
to reply to the question upblog:
if bush gets in thats
a bummer in many
serious ways but the
more important issue is
congress and the courts and
the puppetmasters behind these
idiots in the white house.
nothing will be changed
much if Kerry wins
anyways, he's a
mil/ind supporter
from way back (thats
why he's still in the race)
nah, this is gonna take a fair
bit of sweat and blood before even
lil changes are seen around us
but there are things on the
side of sanity that will
make it possible. it is
important to know whats
at stake and what we'll be
losing as this gets worse in the
immediate future. me? i'm damage control
trying to keep folks from dieing as
this all comes to a head!!!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 23, 2004 12:26 AM
New thread up
Posted by: Nobody at August 23, 2004 12:29 AM
So in short...you're wrong...neener...neener ;P
Posted by: Nobody at August 23, 2004 12:21 AM
Sorry dude ... just sayin it don't make it true ... look at the facts ...
- What nuke power countries have ever gone to war?
- Since Pakistan got nukes ... notice how Kashmir settled down?
- Why is the US afraid of Iran getting even a single nuke ... because as soon as they do ... they can't be bullied
and on and on
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 23, 2004 12:30 AM
FUCK...that is all that fits...
Five US soldiers have been killed in Iraq and another wounded following a series of attacks in the last 24 hours.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/07791466-E992-43ED-B018-7080D33CB9AA.htm
Posted by: at August 23, 2004 01:04 AM
What time is this show on? I'm in Bangkok, was used to listening to "Majority Report", but my "live" streaming (I'm 11 hours ahead) ends up being Mike Malloy show. Any help? Also, anybody know who does the jamming riff on the intro to Franken's show?
Thanks,
David D.
Posted by: dbarrd at August 23, 2004 11:51 PM
>>Also, anybody know who does the jamming riff on the intro to Franken's show?
It the Dead, I don't know which snippet he uses fort the opening..
Posted by: chubby_bubba at August 25, 2004 08:44 PM
This is a special pic for sunshine Jim and all you other hungry CRACKAHS out there.
What's for dinner? click the link and find out:
Posted by: chubby_bubba at August 25, 2004 08:47 PM