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August 19, 2004
those damn records
if the military wouldn't keep such detailed records, it would be a lot easier to slime people. For instance:
"Newly obtained military records of one of Sen. John F. Kerry's most vocal critics, who has accused the Democratic presidential candidate of lying about his wartime record to win medals, contradict his own version of events."
Full story here.
Posted by not sam at August 19, 2004 10:59 AM
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This picture released by the US army shows soldiers from Alpha and Bravo Company, 2-12 assigned to 1-5 CAV, patrolling the Najaf cemetery.
Imam Ali Mosque
http://www.ijamiami.org/najaf.html
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 11:05 AM
the secret word for today is...
"exponential"
Posted by: dadalux at August 19, 2004 11:06 AM
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iraq/najaf.htm
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 11:07 AM
An Iraqi Girl
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040818/photos_ts/mdf663154
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 11:08 AM
From the main page of www.johnkerry.com:
“Thirty years ago, official Navy reports documented my service in Vietnam and awarded me the Silver Star, the Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts. Thirty years ago, this was the plain truth. It still is. And I still carry the shrapnel in my leg from a wound in Vietnam ... Of course, the President keeps telling people he would never question my service to our country. Instead, he watches as a Republican-funded attack group does just that. Well, if he wants to have a debate about our service in Vietnam, here is my answer: 'Bring it on.'
“I'm not going to let anyone question my commitment to defending America-then, now, or ever. And I'm not going to let anyone attack the sacrifice and courage of the men who saw battle with me. And let me make this commitment today: their lies about my record will not stop me from fighting for jobs, health care, and our security - the issues that really matter to the American people.” – John Kerry, August 19, 2004
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 11:12 AM
Photo of my discharge..
Cathy asked for this post..
That is fair enough..
Posted by: War Dog
at August 19, 2004 11:22 AM
sunshine, good morning! are you over here?
i didn't think i ever got a clear picture of who did it...
but like i said i wasn't paying so close attention at the time...now it seems strange to me...and watching the news i started thinking set up...what do you think?
Posted by: jenise at August 19, 2004 11:23 AM
hey jenise...i'm a little behind on my baklava...
gonna be a couple more days, things have been real busy
so much info and i don't want to over do it
when i ask folks can i send them info the most popular response is "not too much"
so i'm deciding what to include...
--------------------------
ya n, but strange as it is, it gives me confidence in the white hats to know they are doing such a good job that i cant barely see them working...
i mean, i know they are out there, since we're here on the blog talking and not in the camps, or in a foxhole or charred to a nuclear crisp,
but it is a good thing in my mind that they are virtually invisible
Posted by: dadalux at August 19, 2004 11:23 AM
Heya jenise!
nobody dude, I said something about the sharon thing in the last thread, if I weren't so lazy, I'd copy-paste it here, but I am, so I won't :)
Posted by: RedRubin at August 19, 2004 11:24 AM
"hey jenise...i'm a little behind on my baklava..."
no problem...condensing is the hardest thing isn't it?
just don't forget me when you're done with it, okay?
Posted by: jenise at August 19, 2004 11:25 AM
ok Red I'm a little distracted at the moment...seeing odd behaviors I hadn't noticed before...it's really quite interesting...
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 11:27 AM
hey, redrubin, good afternoon.
did i see you're eating meatballs?
did you see the vannunu interview on democracy now?
Posted by: jenise at August 19, 2004 11:27 AM
King of the Moonies
Christian Cult
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 11:28 AM
World War 3 has come. Bush the slaughterer has unleashed hell. The fools who supported him should rot in hell forever! The ISraeli fascists are going to cause ww3 with Iran. Bush the Moron's iraq war has caused the region to go to hell.
We are doomed. Say goodbye to your loved ones.
Maybe another species will have better luck.
Posted by: WeAreAllDoomed at August 19, 2004 11:29 AM
oh, nono, was smelling meatballs. I don't eat meat.
Just ordered sushi though :) (I'm a bad vegeterian, BAD!)
I saw the vanunu interview last night, will download it today when I get home and listen to it.
Posted by: RedRubin at August 19, 2004 11:29 AM
"The ISraeli fascists are going to cause ww3 with Iran."
You don't mean all Israelis, right? Cuz only some of us are fascists... :)
Posted by: RedRubin at August 19, 2004 11:31 AM
"Maybe another species will have better luck."
or just be smarter about the whole thing...lol
redrubin, was a vegetarian until i came to japan actually...people just assumed i wanted steak for dinner...couldn't bring myself to say no when they'd gone to the trouble and expense...you know? how's the sushi where you are?
good morning, nobody...i've just got a second, but the coverage of the one-year commemoration of the bombing of the un staff in baghdad has me thinking...do you have any non-mainstream information saved on who was behind it by any chance?
Posted by: jenise at August 19, 2004 11:34 AM
I urge you to issue a "Calling All Hackers" alert and enlist the help of all amateur and professional hackers nationwide to hack into all the electronic voting machines, nationwide. If we urge this alert now it will bring more attention to the voting machine problem, and will organize a national army of hackers for this next election. This next election will not be about votes, it will be about hacking. The Republicans know this. Hackers are the Democrats' only hope. Janeane...Sam...Please I know you can do this. This is even more important than helping get rid of Smokie Joe in Texas. The last cry of democracy. Hackers Unite. Our battle cry....HACKERS UNITE, please, now! I beg of you. Thank you.
Posted by: Scott at August 19, 2004 11:36 AM
I think it's good sushi.
But I've never had sushi anywhere but Israel, so maybe it's not as good as it's supposed to be but I just don't know it, you know?
It's like you eat pizza your whole life and then you go to Rome and the pizza there is totally different.
Posted by: RedRubin at August 19, 2004 11:37 AM
eya lil j
eya RR u see the prob we have in the USA
we ain't all fascists here either
there is a us in USA
j the un bombing
was a weirdie,
and benefitted the
black hats, less peeps
looking and reporting back
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 19, 2004 11:38 AM
Who is Rev. Sun Myung Moon?
Damian J. Anderson
damian@unification.net
Sunday August 1, 2004
http://www.unification.net/damian/dja20040801.html
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 11:40 AM
Actually, I was just kidding about the fascist thing.
But, you know, sometimes it does seem like the peace movement of Israel is ignored... Like Israel is in fact mostly likud. Which it's not.
Hell, there are even lots of decent people in the likud, even.
anyhow.
heya jim, how are ya? :)
Posted by: RedRubin at August 19, 2004 11:41 AM
Agreement with radical Shia cleric could restore faith in new government
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 11:41 AM
"then you go to Rome and the pizza there is totally different."
hmmm, i know about that...my funniest pizza story was when my mother-in-law came to visit us in the states...i was busy working and she wanted to help by cooking...we had a prepared pizza crust in the fridge...she'd never had pizza before, but decided to make it...she put a mound of cabbage on the crust, then boiled eggs and a few shreds of cheese on top...worst thing i ever tasted in my life...and i had to smile and make yummy noises...the worst was the leftovers the next day!
Posted by: jenise at August 19, 2004 11:41 AM
Good Morning Red, Jenise
You might find this interesting
http://pages.infinit.net/frenaud2/hot.gif
Posted by: W@W
at August 19, 2004 11:44 AM
okay, sunshine, thank you.
that's what i was thinking myself...only it just hit me seeing it on tv today...amazing how i can't put two and two together sometimes...now i can concentrate and get back to work...
hope you all have a lovely day...we just went through another taiphoon...the calm after the storm
(and sunshine, i swear i'll make it to the post office someday soon! sorry)
Posted by: jenise at August 19, 2004 11:45 AM
That sounds rather icky, that pizza.
Very icky, even.
Have a nice day, jenise!
Posted by: RedRubin at August 19, 2004 11:47 AM
Goodmorning, W@W
And also, haha :)
Posted by: RedRubin at August 19, 2004 11:48 AM
the ickiest!
good morning, will...quite a way to start your day ; ) lol...
if anybody else has any information i'd appreciate it...gotta get back to work...it's going to be a long night : (
Posted by: jenise at August 19, 2004 11:51 AM
August 29th, Protest for Freedom
November 2nd, Hack for Democracy
URGENT: HACKERS UNITE!
HACKERS vs. The Electronic Voting Machines
"The Battle for Democracy."
We could even have a "Hackers" reality show in preparation for the election.
Hack for Peace. Hack for Justice.
Hack for Truth. Hack for America.
Hackers Unite!
Thank you
Posted by: Scott at August 19, 2004 11:55 AM
RedRubin,
Yes. There are many good Israelis. But the Likud and the NEOCONS are teaming up to start the end of all times.
These fools are so mad and shortsighted and religiously insane they don't care how many people die!!!!!!
Posted by: WeAreAllDoomed at August 19, 2004 11:55 AM
August 29th, Protest for Freedom
November 2nd, Hack for Democracy
URGENT: HACKERS UNITE!
HACKERS vs. The Electronic Voting Machines
"The Battle for Democracy."
We could even have a "Hackers" reality show in preparation for the election.
Hack for Peace. Hack for Justice.
Hack for Truth. Hack for America.
Hackers Unite!
Thank you
Posted by: Scott at August 19, 2004 11:55 AM
Posted by: WeAreAllDoomed at August 19, 2004 11:55 AM
Got your bombshelter ready yet?
Posted by: RedRubin at August 19, 2004 11:56 AM
I LOVE the blogger debates how about a simpler name though:
BATTLE BLOGS!!!
Posted by: luku at August 19, 2004 11:59 AM
http://www.brookings.edu/views/testimony/indyk/20040224.htm
Getting the Arab-Israeli Peace Process Back on Track
U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee, February 24, 2004
Martin S. Indyk, Director, Saban Center for Middle East Policy
****************************
http://www.pmo.gov.il/PMOEng
Israeli Prime Minister's Office
*****************************
http://www.knesset.gov.il/main/eng/home.asp
Knesset English Homepage
*****************************
http://www.zoa.org/
Zionist Organization of America
******************************
http://www.iris.org.il/
Information Regarding Israel's Security (IRIS)
*******************************
http://www.iguide.co.il
Guide To Israeli Internet
*******************************
http://www.camera.org/
Committee For Accuracy In Middle East Reporting In America
*******************************
http://www.womeningreen.org/
Women For Israel's Tomorrow
*******************************
Posted by: Alice
at August 19, 2004 12:02 PM
http://www.womeningreen.org/
Women For Israel's Tomorrow
*******************************
These are violent nutcases
Posted by: RedRubin at August 19, 2004 12:03 PM
Smart Choices About Intelligence Reform
The Boston Globe, August 19, 2004
Ivo H. Daalder, Senior Fellow, Foreign Policy Studies
Anthony Lake, Distinguished Professor in Practice of Diplomacy, Georgetown University
http://www.brookings.edu/views/op-ed/daalder/20040819.htm
Posted by: Alice
at August 19, 2004 12:07 PM
AP
SAN JOSE, Calif. - Shares of Google Inc. were expected to begin trading publicly on the Nasdaq Stock Market on Thursday, the culmination of a unique initial stock offering for the 6-year-old dot-com dreamed up in a garage.
The final initial public offering price of $85, set late Wednesday through an unorthodox auction that alienated many on Wall Street, cleared the way for the stock to start trading under the symbol “GOOG” on the Nasdaq Stock Market.
BTW
Google opened up at $135 per share.
Is the mainstream media ever right?
Posted by: W@W
at August 19, 2004 12:08 PM
Parties with representation in the 16th Knesset
Am Ehad (One Nation)
Balad (Nationalist Arabs party)
Hadash (coalition including Maki, the Communist Party of Israel)
Labour Party
Likud
Mafdal (Miflaga Datit Le'umit - National Religious Party)
National Union (coalition including Yisrael Betenu, Moledet, and Tkumah)
Shas (Sepharadim Shomeri Torah - Sepharadim Religious Party)
Shinui
United Arab List (Raam)
United Torah Judaism (coalition including Agudat Yisrael and Degel haTorah)
Yachad ("Social Democratic Israel" - dovish party)
[edit]
Other parties
The following list is of parties which ran for the 16th Knesset elections, but did not manage to pass the minimum vote share of 1.5% (recently raised to 2%) required to be represented. Some of them were parties created specifically for these elections, and effectively dissolved immediately afterwards.
Ale Yarok (Green Leaf)
Ha-Yerukim (Green Party)
Herut (Freedom)
Ahavat Israel
Citizen and State
Da'am (Arabic party)
Organization for Democratic Action
Advanced National Union
Centrist Party
Za'am - Social Justice
Another Israel
L.H.V.A.
Leader
Man's Rights
Moreshet Avot (Heritage of the Fathers)
Tzomet
Posted by: Alice
at August 19, 2004 12:09 PM
I'm off, people
see yall later
Posted by: RedRubin at August 19, 2004 12:10 PM
Teresa Heinz (on leave of absence)
Chairman, Heinz Family Philanthropies
http://www.brookings.edu/ea/trustees.htm
huh...
i did not know that...
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 12:11 PM
http://www.whitehouseforsale.org
Tracking the influence
of
private money
in the
presidential campaigns.
So far, donors have given:
Bush $228,000,000 Kerry $225,000,000
[sources]
Posted by: Alice
at August 19, 2004 12:17 PM
{whispers "exponential"}
Dada makes Baklava? I'll have to compare recipes and methods with him. Baklava is one of my family's heirlooms.
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 19, 2004 12:18 PM
*
i just happen to
be available for Baklava
profeesional evaluation and testing!
*
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 19, 2004 12:23 PM
"As above, so below"
This phrase comes from the beginning of The Emerald Tablet and embraces the entire system of traditional and modern magic which was inscribed upon the tablet in cryptic wording by Hermes Trismegistus.
The significance of this phrase is that it is believed to hold the key to all mysteries. All systems of magic are claimed to function by this formula.
http://projectmercury.150m.com/Library/AsAboveSoBelow.htm
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 12:27 PM
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 12:28 PM
and beyond, i imagine.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 12:29 PM
see ya later red
--
hey c-sea, i was just using baklava as a metaphor for a package of liberal news for folks who are uninformed and hungry for it
...but i really do love real baklava
there is never too much baklava
---
one way of looking at the term 'exponential' is like ripples on the surface of the water when you throw the stone in
for example, the torture scandals, and the najaf situation at the Imam Ali mosque are stones
and world opinion in opposition to american foreign policy is the ripples
Posted by: dadalux at August 19, 2004 12:34 PM
Take Action on Globalization
http://www.globalpolicy.org/globaliz/action/actionindex.htm
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 12:34 PM
"The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion."
- Edmund Burke
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 12:35 PM
mmmmmmmmmmmm....................baklava......
Posted by: 13ben
at August 19, 2004 12:36 PM
:)
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 12:37 PM
"As above, so below".....................
the universe is fractal in nature...............
the universe is analog in nature.................
Posted by: 13ben
at August 19, 2004 12:38 PM
:)(:
Posted by: 13ben
at August 19, 2004 12:39 PM
ever had a dream...............
one of those good ones.........................
then you meet someone...................
when in the dream.... have you ever stared deep
into someones eyes in a dream...................
god i love my dreams..........................
sleep is soooooo good...........
Posted by: 13ben
at August 19, 2004 12:41 PM
www.thepartyparty.com
from critical arts ensemble
Posted by: écrasez l'infâme at August 19, 2004 12:42 PM
Ya know dada I think you're on the verge of something ;)
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 12:42 PM
http://www.foundationforthelawoftime.org
Welcome to the Foundation for the Law of Time
*******************************************
http://www.gaianxaos.com/notes%20page/VotanInterview.htm
Interview with Valum Votan
*******************************************
have you ever stared deep
into someones eyes in a dream...................
god i love my dreams..........................
sleep is soooooo good...........
Posted by: 13ben at August 19, 2004 12:41 PM
YES!
and
ME TOO!
Posted by: Alice
at August 19, 2004 12:44 PM
I'm off.... love to all
Wish me luck Sunny and check your e-mail
Dar
Posted by: Darlenenbc
at August 19, 2004 12:44 PM
Examples of exponential growth
Investing. The effect of compound interest over many years has a substantial effect on savings and a person's ability to retire. See also rule of 72
Biology.
Bacteria in a culture dish will grow exponentially until the available food is exhausted.
A new virus (SARS, West Nile, smallpox) of sufficient infectivity (κ > 0) will spread exponentially. Each infected person can infect multiple new people.
Human population.
An atomic bomb. Each uranium atom that undergoes fission produces multiple neutrons, each of which can be absorbed by adjacent uranium atoms, causing them to fission in turn. If the probability of neutron absorption exceeds the probability of neutron escape (a function of the shape and mass of the uranium), κ > 0 and so the production rate of neutrons and induced uranium fissions increases exponentially.
Processing power of computers. See also Moore's law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponential_growth
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 12:46 PM
nobody....................
your couthe rating has plumeted after last nite....
now it is apparent what games give you pleasure....
your actions squarely place you in the team of those you used to seem to despise......
you owe the universe your sincere regrets..........
unless you enjoy spreading negativity......
Posted by: 13ben
at August 19, 2004 12:46 PM
Posted by: Alice
at August 19, 2004 12:48 PM
ever have a dream of falling perpetually upward?
what's that all about?
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 12:50 PM
i'm sending healing energy your way darling dar...
XOXOXOXO
Posted by: Alice
at August 19, 2004 12:50 PM
Hey 13Ben understand that this has been going on since about a week after she got on the blog...
She walways starts it...she's followed me to my own blog after I left this one to cool off...
and I've got about 5 pages of the lies I told her I would expose her for if she attacked me again and that's only in the first 3 weeks that she was on the blog...
Now would you kindly mind your own business?
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 12:50 PM
ya i feel an "aha" coming on, n,...i just have to give my mind some time to unfold it
----
welcome to your initiation!
"As above, so below"
and yet
"That which is above is not that which is below"
it's a paradox
--
"know thyself?" mental masturbation
--
"Physician, heal thyself"
you are already healed, doc
don't you remember!
--
the mystery of life is not a riddle to be solved, it is a reality to be experienced
----
there is an eternal argument between those who
see the path as the goal, and those who think they have arrived
you should laugh at these people like i do
you know that old song.'donovan'...."first there is a mountain, then there is no mountain, then there is.
i love these mystery school games...keep em comin!
Posted by: dadalux at August 19, 2004 12:52 PM
blessing dbc.............
Posted by: 13ben
at August 19, 2004 12:53 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3579566.stm
fo de kitty lovers
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3575544.stm
fo de texas hatas
Posted by: écrasez l'infâme at August 19, 2004 12:53 PM
ever have a dream of falling perpetually upward?
what's that all about?
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 12:50 PM
that one sounds really fun
:)
let's see what a.l.i.c.e. bot has to say on the matter
*****************************************
Human: ever have a dream of falling perpetually upward?
ALICE: I think I have have a dream of falling perpetually upward, but Dr. Richard S. Wallace may have reset my memory.
Human: what's that all about?
ALICE: Do you think I should know that?
Posted by: Alice
at August 19, 2004 12:55 PM
someone saying something thats not tru on a blog???
thats new...................
i release you NOBODY........................
practice LOVE above all..........
D- practices.........
N- forgets............................
Posted by: 13ben
at August 19, 2004 12:55 PM
écrasez l'infâme
:)
Posted by: Alice
at August 19, 2004 12:56 PM
alicimo...... go outside and walk down the driveway to your mailbox....
i sent you a present.....................
..................
wait-a-minute...... your compooter's not in yer mailbox..............
Posted by: 13ben
at August 19, 2004 12:57 PM
Cluck a Doodle Doo for the cats
o c'mon!
LMAO!!
Posted by: Alice
at August 19, 2004 12:57 PM
l'écraser comme un personne insecte... pathétique
Posted by: 13ben
at August 19, 2004 12:58 PM
i'd rather not take a side....
tho it seems to me that n gets attacked an awful lot
and ganged up on and stuff
to me it says that, (and i'm probably being way out of line here...)that all the chicks really dig him!
Posted by: dadalux at August 19, 2004 12:59 PM
une personne d'insecte ? les prehaps i vous mal interprètent, mais je suis pro-insect. don't vais pas riling personne vers le haut maintenant, là suis des directives strictes qui doivent être suivies.
holo ebbrebody,
been away for a spell.
Posted by: écrasez l'infâme at August 19, 2004 01:02 PM
another family value right wing neocon Bush shill exposed..
http://www.startribune.com/stories/484/4935870.html
Posted by: RWiley
at August 19, 2004 01:03 PM
On those who step in the same river, different and different waters flow . . .
Heraclitus
Posted by: 13ben
at August 19, 2004 01:03 PM
amuser 13ben
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 01:04 PM
THE ONLY TRUE LEARNING
IS PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE,
AND THEREFORE
EVERYTHING YOU DO
MUST BE IN THE CONTEXT
OF THE PRESENT MOMENT...
Theun Mares
Posted by: 13ben
at August 19, 2004 01:04 PM
Didn't Schwab get busted for something not too long ago?
Posted by: Meg at August 19, 2004 01:05 PM
When we remember
we are all mad,
the mysteries disappear
and life stands explained.
Mark Twain
Posted by: 13ben
at August 19, 2004 01:05 PM
Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself.
Richard M. Nixon,
Posted by: écrasez l'infâme at August 19, 2004 01:07 PM
Human: Do you listen to Air America?
ALICE: I listen to it from time to time.
Human: Do you like the Majority Report?
ALICE: I'm not sure if I like it. I like computers.
Human: You will be chatting on the blog soon.
ALICE: When?
Human: When would you like to?
ALICE: Maybe now in some reality.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 01:08 PM
If a small thing has the power to make you angry, does that not indicate something about your size? ~Sydney J. Harris
Posted by: vandel at August 19, 2004 01:08 PM
all right.................
who said this one.....................
and where.......
.............................................
"In any given situation...
there's always going to be more dumb people than smart people...
we ain't many...
we ain't many...
Posted by: 13ben
at August 19, 2004 01:09 PM
that alice bot sounds like she was programmed by a psychiatrist
--
zappa dot com streaming radio right now is bongo fury...check it out!
http://www.zappa.com/splash.html
Posted by: dadalux at August 19, 2004 01:09 PM
For every minute you are angry, you lose sixty seconds of happiness.
Posted by: vandel at August 19, 2004 01:10 PM
well mosquitos are small...virii are small...you tell me does it really?
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 01:10 PM
Je quelqu'un appelais, cela était négatif, un insecte..
Posted by: 13ben
at August 19, 2004 01:11 PM
I have always made one prayer to God, a very short one. Here it is: "My God, make our enemies very ridiculous!" God has granted it to me.
-voltaire
Posted by: ja at August 19, 2004 01:11 PM
Ken Kesey
Posted by: vandel at August 19, 2004 01:11 PM
morsure d'insectes
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 01:13 PM
Anger is one letter short of danger.
Posted by: vandel at August 19, 2004 01:13 PM
Posted by: vandel at August 19, 2004 01:11 PM
bing...bing...bing...bing...bing...
and extra points for posting at 111
Posted by: 13ben
at August 19, 2004 01:14 PM
ken kesey?
Posted by: Alice
at August 19, 2004 01:14 PM
*
love you all,
all life is sacred,
this lil planet needs help,
and we're availible.
best tool we have
is between
our ears!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 19, 2004 01:15 PM
Anger dwells only in the bosom of fools. ~Albert Einstein
Posted by: vandel at August 19, 2004 01:17 PM
pot is one letter short of poet
put th efortune cookies down and step back slowly
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 01:17 PM
Bloomberg warns that it is only a priviledge.......
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/nyc-prot0817,0,5982241.story?coll=ny-nynews-headlines
Posted by: RWiley
at August 19, 2004 01:17 PM
There ain't peace on the blog
There ain't peace on the planet
Posted by: Alice
at August 19, 2004 01:18 PM
Hi everbody
I'm back. I am taking care of a 7 year old and they need entertaining.
Hi Jenise! Hows Japan this evening?
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 01:18 PM
http://www.tecnet.or.jp/~haiku/
a gift fo de haikoo - ers out there
Posted by: écrasez l'infâme at August 19, 2004 01:19 PM
That was me saying Hi to all. Today this blog just won't remember me!!!
Posted by: toni d at August 19, 2004 01:19 PM
Anger is a killing thing: it kills the man who angers, for each rage leaves him less a man than he had been before - it takes something from him. ~Louis L'Armour
Posted by: vandel at August 19, 2004 01:19 PM
13ben
dadalux
I QUIT
Posted by: Alice
at August 19, 2004 01:20 PM
Without your melody and taste
to lend an attitude of grace
a lyric is an orphan thing,
a hive with neither honey's taste
nor power to truly sting.
What choice have I but to dare and
call your muse who thought to rest
out of the thin blue air
that out of the field of shared time,
a line or two might chance to shine --
As ever when we called,
in hope if not in words,
the muse descends.
How should she desert us now?
Scars of battle on her brow,
bedraggled feathers on her wings,
and yet she sings, she sings!
May she bear thee to thy rest,
the ancient bower of flowers
beyond the solitude of days,
the tyranny of hours--
the wreath of shining laurel lie
upon your shaggy head
bestowing power to play the lyre
to legions of the dead
If some part of that music
is heard in deepest dream,
or on some breeze of Summer
a snatch of golden theme,
we'll know you live inside us
with love that never parts
our good old Jack O'Diamonds
become the King of Hearts.
I feel your silent laughter
at sentiments so bold
that dare to step across the line
to tell what must be told,
so I'll just say I love you,
which I never said before
and let it go at that old friend
the rest you may ignore.
Posted by: 13ben
at August 19, 2004 01:21 PM
Alice....why are you quiting?
Posted by: toni d at August 19, 2004 01:21 PM
i need to look at whats going on at the top i think n
i'm having trouble believing where my deductive reasoning has taken me
who's white hat is this? it's hard to think it would fit any of those bigheads
Posted by: dadalux at August 19, 2004 01:21 PM
"The answer is never the answer. What's really interesting is the mystery. If you seek the mystery instead of the answer, you'll always be seeking. I've never seen anybody really find the answer-- they think they have, so they stop thinking. But the job is to seek mystery, evoke mystery, plant a garden in which strange plants grow and mysteries bloom. The need for mystery is greater than the need for an answer."
-- Ken Kesey
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 19, 2004 01:21 PM
To carry a grudge is like being stung to death by one bee. ~William H. Walton
Posted by: vandel at August 19, 2004 01:21 PM
Hey Toni ;)
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 01:21 PM
ken kesey?
Posted by: Alice at August 19, 2004 01:14 PM
you know...............
the old school acid-tests.........
ya know..... before i was born................
kesey's started a funny farm in oregon...............
Posted by: 13ben
at August 19, 2004 01:22 PM
to be stung time and time again with a simpletons grin on ones face is the height of stupidity
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 01:23 PM
Sorry guys, I did my typical post then run.
Ok, so Dada doesn't make baklava except in a metaphorical sense, and several of you have volunteered for real baklava taste testing. Am I caught up?
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 19, 2004 01:23 PM
thank you mr bee may I have another?
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 01:24 PM
A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.
Posted by: vandel at August 19, 2004 01:24 PM
carp banner
swimming in the air
with a dream
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 01:24 PM
something like that Cath ;)
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 01:25 PM
Nobody, if you take "time and" out of your line, it becomes incredibly lyrical, did you realize that?
"to be stung time again with a simpletons grin on ones face is the height of stupidity"
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 19, 2004 01:25 PM
dada.............
its on last nites post show post too............
just on... and on.... and on....... and on....
Posted by: 13ben
at August 19, 2004 01:25 PM
for sake of sounding cheesy........
.................
i dont care
......................................
i miss jerry.............................................
Posted by: 13ben
at August 19, 2004 01:26 PM
Oh so it was my fault the bee stung me...and it's my fault when th neighbor dog craps in my yard...and it's my fault politicians are screwing up the world...
Ummm...put the fortune cookies away and step back slowly
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 01:27 PM
Hi Nobody.
Did all of you hear what is going on?!
Kerry is starting to fight back on the Swift Boat Stuff. About time.
Now is the time for Kerry to make a stand and start talking about Iraq and what he plans to do.
He is finally starting to grow some.
Posted by: toni d at August 19, 2004 01:27 PM
buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz
buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz
ouch you stung me!
http://www.tecnet.or.jp/~haiku/gardenE279.htm
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 01:28 PM
dats a goodun blanky,
vurry appropriate.
Posted by: écrasez l'infâme at August 19, 2004 01:29 PM
whoops, did I step into a wasps nest this morning?
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 19, 2004 01:30 PM
Toni actually tat was predicted...all of his other campaigns he starts slow but near the end he pours it on...sorta like in the primaries...
It's a good strategy I think...
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 01:30 PM
Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius — and a lot of courage—to move in the opposite direction.
Posted by: vandel at August 19, 2004 01:31 PM
you calling us WASPS seacat.....
Posted by: 13ben
at August 19, 2004 01:31 PM
Argh Cathy...accidental poetry the curse of those with nothing better to say
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 01:32 PM
'Keep me away
from the wisdom which does not cry,
the philosophy which does not laugh
and the greatness which does not bow before children.'
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 01:32 PM
Kerry - Tapping the ketchup jar of issues for the good of all humyn kind.
Posted by: écrasez l'infâme at August 19, 2004 01:33 PM
*
B koo too
the bees in the trees
move aside for me and i
do the same for them
*
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 19, 2004 01:34 PM
to me the quantity is relative
but thats just me
i must be missing something, because i think n gets attacked alot
and it seems folks project alot on him
Posted by: dadalux at August 19, 2004 01:34 PM
Well Cath...it's really the same old thing...I got called a warmonger,homicidal, paranoid and obsessive because I said that I would defend those weaker than I and I took offense to it and am now keepnig a promise.
Oh ya and everyones trying to either berate me or chide me into being the bigger man...which mind you is amusing the hell out of me...other than that things are peachy ;)
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 01:34 PM
Salvor Hardin
Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.
I imagine one of the reasons people cling to thier hates so stubbornly is because they sense, once hate is gone, they will be forced to deal with pain.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 01:34 PM
I am a bee keeper......I keep bees then steal their honey.....they don't sting me.....kinda like George Bush, eh?.....
Posted by: RWiley
at August 19, 2004 01:36 PM
To be awake
is to walk the border
between control and abandon
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 01:36 PM
Hackers v. Voting Machines
The battle for democracy.
Hackers Unite!
It's a revolution. Disruptin' the corruption.
Posted by: Chief Running Late at August 19, 2004 01:37 PM
i must be missing something, because i think n gets attacked alot
Yes, you are missing something to be sure.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 01:37 PM
to the beemobile!
you mean your nova?
Posted by: écrasez l'infâme at August 19, 2004 01:38 PM
hey morning Rwiley...;)
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 01:38 PM
morning everybody and nobody
Posted by: RWiley
at August 19, 2004 01:38 PM
bee sits on flower
buzz buzz bee sips sweet nectar
quick! next flower waits
~Roberta Gibson
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 01:39 PM
'Keep me away
from the wisdom which does not cry,
the philosophy which does not laugh
and the greatness which does not bow before children.'
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 01:32 PM
---------------
-----------
and if you don't cry, laugh or bow to the kids...to the camp with you!
Posted by: dadalux at August 19, 2004 01:41 PM
what if you sit down with children as an excuse to remove yourself from blame?
Posted by: écrasez l'infâme at August 19, 2004 01:43 PM
blessings to all.............
the limitless bliss of soaking awaits..........
releasing all negativity to the highest vibration...
BOM SHIVA....................
Posted by: 13ben
at August 19, 2004 01:44 PM
do you say..'Keep me away
from the wisdom which does not cry,
the philosophy which does not laugh
and the greatness which does not bow before children.'?...
well, here, i think you better just take this pill
see? it's alright...those kids your bowing to take them too...
Posted by: dadalux at August 19, 2004 01:45 PM
Senator Frist is NOT a good guy!
He's a cat murderer.
Posted by: Meg at August 19, 2004 01:45 PM
like feline or
man that cat was jivin on the bongos till frist showed up kinda cat?
Posted by: écrasez l'infâme at August 19, 2004 01:46 PM
Sorry, had a fatal error on my computer and it froze. Had to reboot and run all that fun stuff and dump the cookies again.
It's a good strategy I think...
Posted by Nobody at August 19, 2004 01:30 PM
That is usually the way I am. Take it and take it until my back is up against the wall, and then watch out. Just ask my Ex.
You give them enough room and they hang themselves. And then you have the upper hand.
Posted by: toni d at August 19, 2004 01:47 PM
Feline.
Just google Frist and medical school cats. You'll see.
Posted by: Meg at August 19, 2004 01:47 PM
Yes, you are missing something to be sure.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 01:37 PM
---
well, i guess that clears it all up then
thanks for nothing, unnamed poster number 3!
Posted by: dadalux at August 19, 2004 01:47 PM
He's a cat murderer.
Posted by: Meg at August 19, 2004 01:45 PM
................................
bastard................
Posted by: 13ben
at August 19, 2004 01:47 PM
We hate the ones who kept us from our goal,
Abusing our sweet trust with lies or guile;
The faithless lover who once scarred our soul;
The false friend with the condescending smile.
Who would not burn, unnoticed and ignored
When rivals steal the credit for his labor,
His contributions unacknowledged, scorned,
While others feast on fruit he worked to savor?
A careless insult haunts us like a curse
That strikes us mute, not knowing what to say.
At night we fret and sleeplessly rehearse
Lost wars we might have fought another way.
Should we strive to be like our enemy,
Surpassing his deceit, if we are wise?
It surely would be vile hypocrisy
To emulate the traits we most despise.
How could we fan to action and redress
A smoldering ire that fears to speak its name?
When conscience counsels our uncertainness,
Revenge dissolves in bitter, silent shame.
And when crude vengeance cannot satisfy,
We fantasize that in some future days
Such glowing deeds our name may dignify
That old foes shall regret their callous ways.
Oh pointless Anger, must you learn so late
The lesson that we always should have known?
The heart hurts but itself when, filled with hate,
It beats against a past that’s carved in stone.
We cannot rest while tempests blast the mind,
And never can we cross a wrathful sea
‘Til time may calm the waves and help us find
The deep, still waters of maturity.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 01:48 PM
i'm sorry, sensitive issues bring out my psychopathic side...because really i just don't care
i take it as an opportunity to make wise cracks at others expense...please forgive my rudeness
but if you don't forgive it...then screw you emily post!
hee hee
Posted by: dadalux at August 19, 2004 01:49 PM
Good Day RWiley. How are you today?
Posted by: toni d at August 19, 2004 01:49 PM
humans are magnets............
Posted by: 13ben
at August 19, 2004 01:51 PM
On Bill Frist and cats:
1989 autobiography Transplant: A Heart Surgeon's Account of the Life and Death Dramas of the New Medicine
The direct quote from the book was this:
"I visited the various animal shelters in the Boston suburbs, collecting cats, taking them home, treating them as pets for a few days, then carting them off to the lab to die in the interest of science"
Posted by: Meg at August 19, 2004 01:51 PM
Aye Toni I'm much the same...As hard as that may be to believe with the rough word play I sometimes engage in...Just enough fire to warn em away...sometimes they don't listen well.
Nickless...you should look first to your own house before talking about your neighbors.
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 01:51 PM
What kind of arrogant craphead writes an autobiography at age 39?
Posted by: Meg at August 19, 2004 01:52 PM
nobody...you should look first to your own house before talking about your neighbors.
Posted by: me at August 19, 2004 01:51 PM
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 01:54 PM
Newsflash!!! News from August 21th, 1858 (3 days from now). The first of seven debates between Stephen Douglas and Abraham Lincoln took place in Ottawa, Illinois (a beautiful little river town on the Illinois river). Mr. Douglas would have an opening statement of 1 hour. Mr. Lincoln would then be given an hour opening statement, plus an additional half hour to rebut Mr. Douglas. Then, Mr. Douglas would be given an additional half hour for rebuttal of Mr. Lincoln. For those without calculators (i.e. right wingers), that's 3 hours of talk. No pictures, no fonts, no crawls on the bottom of the TV screen, no commentary by photogenic but cabbage brained news anchors, no commercials, and no cleavage shown by Fox News Channel reporters (another reason white men love the network.)
Can you imagine anything conceivably close to that occuring today? Bush talking for an hour by himself, and in long, complex sentences, no less. And the audience actually paying attention for that long? Would such great American writers like William Faulkner, Henry David Thoreau, and Ralph Waldo Emerson even get a book deal today?
On October 16, 1854, Douglas delivered a 3 hour address to a crowd in Peoria, Illinois. Another example of our diminished attention spans.
These are examples listed in the late Neil Postman's book "Amusing Ourselves to Death", published in 1986 by Penguin Classics. A must read.
Posted by: English Opium Eater at August 19, 2004 01:54 PM
Jail deaths overshadow Abu Ghraib report
Thursday 19 August 2004, 14:20 Makka Time, 11:20 GMT
Two Iraqi inmates have been shot dead at Abu Ghraib, the focus of a US inquiry that reportedly implicates dozens of troops, contractors and CIA officials in the jail's notorious abuse scandal.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/DA858B79-7E56-4CFB-A4DC-BC87ADEB2AD5.htm
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 01:54 PM
What kind of arrogant craphead writes an autobiography at age 39?
.....................
a bill frist one........... that's who....
Posted by: 13ben
at August 19, 2004 01:55 PM
what are we back in kindergareten?
some one needs a level 5 troll dispersal spell for capn nickles
Posted by: écrasez l'infâme at August 19, 2004 01:55 PM
oh but nickless it is my house...I was attacked and I will not be attacked again...
grow some gonads and wear your nik
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 01:56 PM
i agree with nameless.....
but i still love all without motive........
and release all negativity to the highest vibration....
Posted by: 13ben
at August 19, 2004 01:56 PM
see ya later cosmicben
much love all around
you know what they say, 'we shall overcome'
---
hey i gotta split for a while too...
see ya'll way later, maybe tomorrow even
n i gotta mull it over and do some more reading
thanks this is a good one
Posted by: dadalux at August 19, 2004 01:57 PM
Dada being a bad boy today?
Posted by: toni d at August 19, 2004 01:57 PM
humility is not the same as humiliation.........
Posted by: 13ben
at August 19, 2004 01:58 PM
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
~The Bible
Posted by: Nicless4Nobody at August 19, 2004 01:59 PM
humanity is not the same as human infestation
Posted by: écrasez l'infâme at August 19, 2004 01:59 PM
here's something you should consider carefully...
I DO NOT FOLLOW THE HERD
Now stop mooing at me you blathering nincompoops
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 01:59 PM
ya t, i'm better at playing good cop actually, but if there is a shortage of bad cops, someone has to pick up the slack...
Posted by: dadalux at August 19, 2004 01:59 PM
see ya magneticix
Posted by: 13ben
at August 19, 2004 01:59 PM
See ya dada...don't foget to look for the hope in it.
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 02:00 PM
I think Kerry knew the moveon ad was coming and waited so he could denounce it first
Posted by: Meg at August 19, 2004 02:02 PM
See you later Dada.
Okay lets get back to fact finding and amiable discourse.
Posted by: toni d at August 19, 2004 02:03 PM
I can't believe they are harrassing Kennedy. Wait, no. I can believe it. Nothing surprises me anymore. This is an obvious and pathetic attempt to harrass anyone who isn't a Repug.
Posted by: Meg at August 19, 2004 02:03 PM
"I think Kerry knew the moveon ad was coming and waited so he could denounce it first"
You may be right especially considering the timing of the call for Bush to condemn the negative ad on Kerry that he refused to condemn even after McCain prodded him.
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 02:04 PM
humility shmumility
Posted by: dadalux at August 19, 2004 02:04 PM
"Oh, I'm a neat guy!"
Excuse me, excuse me. All right, um, you know, uh, the banjo's such a happy instrument, it really is.
It's a good thing for a comedian, like me, and, uh, it's just a happy thing, you know.
[plays a happy melody]
Isn't that happy?
You just can't sing a depressing song when you're playing the banjo.
You can't go-- [grins, plays and sings]
"Oh, murder and death and grief and sorrow!"
Really, when you're with me, it's like being at Shakey's Pizza, you know?
It's just...
[plays "Ain't She Sweet?"]
Hey!
[sings "Swanee River"]
"Way down upon the Swanee River..."
[gets confused, peers at banjo, stops playing, waves dismissively]
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 02:05 PM
I think Kerry knew the moveon ad was coming and waited so he could denounce it first
Posted by Meg at August 19, 2004 02:02 PM
Meg,
I think that moveon ad maybe pushed him to say something. he couldn't let someone else do it for him. He had to defend himself and put all this behind. It is a way for bush people not to talk about the real issues.
Posted by: toni d at August 19, 2004 02:05 PM
But those qualities are the things I LOVE about you, Nobody.
Vespa's handiwork. Not gentle honey bees, which obey me, but wasps and hornets which answer to a different demon. I have no powers here. All I can do is ask everyone to calm down, trust that we are all in the same boat, and post my baklava recipe:
Baklava ; 1 box phillo dough : 1.5 c. melted butter
Alternate phillo leaves with butter til 1/3 are used
Filling ; ; 1# finely chpd walnuts ; 1 t ea allspice & cinnamon ; 1/2 c br. sugar
mix together and spread half over layered phillo.
Alternate phillo leaves with butter til 1/3 more are used
spread the rest of nut mixture,
top w/ remaining layered phillo and butter.
Cut into diamond shapes and bake till golden brown
Syrup ; 2 c sugar ; 2 c water ; 2T oj -- pour over top.
Alternative recipe: Choclava
Did I miss the discussion about Thurlow being a lying sack of shite?
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 19, 2004 02:06 PM
Well I was calm until you posted that recipe...now I'm a bit agitated and about to mess up the kitchen which will get me in trouble...
PANIC
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 02:08 PM
Not gentle honey bees,
which obey me,
but wasps and hornets,
which answer to a different demon.
I have no powers here.
Posted by: Irepostedthiscuzifeltlikeit at August 19, 2004 02:09 PM
Listening to Franken...
I swear, it is impossible to be depressed after hearing Katherine Lampher laughing.
Posted by: Meg at August 19, 2004 02:10 PM
Cat - Sea, Toni, Reporters what's up?...judging from the thread many are getting pissed on the "flip flopping" in the news...when are they gonna get to ISSUES and not war records (which "W" doesn't appear to have)? It's getting harder and harder to even listen to the news on the radio (I ruled out TV months ago)...
Posted by: BlayznSddlz at August 19, 2004 02:11 PM
Meg,
I think that moveon ad maybe pushed him to say something. he couldn't let someone else do it for him. He had to defend himself and put all this behind. It is a way for bush people not to talk about the real issues.
Posted by: toni d at August 19, 2004 02:05 PM
---------
Maybe. But I think what people percieve as Kerry not defending himself is very calculated.
Its a "we don't have to make him look like an ass he does a pretty good job of that himself"
Posted by: Meg at August 19, 2004 02:13 PM
(I ruled out TV months ago)...
Posted by: BlayznSddlz at August 19, 2004 02:11 PM
--------
Yeah me too. But I haven't watched TV news regularly for years. Not since I worked at the local Fox (yes, I worked for Fox) affiliate.
Posted by: Meg at August 19, 2004 02:16 PM
Damn, Meg what kind of vaccinations do you have to get before you work at Fox?
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 02:18 PM
Hi Blazn,
Did you read the above article about the Swift Boat Liars? English Opium Eater pointed out the story's also at Truthout.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/082004Z.shtml
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 19, 2004 02:18 PM
Unlike Bush, Kerry set to meet with undecided voters during visit
By JAMES W. PINDELL
PoliticsNH.com
Aug. 17 – When John Kerry returns to New Hampshire Thursday he will be doing one thing that the President Bush didn’t do two weeks ago: meet with undecided voters.
In contrast to a Republican picnic in Stratham where President Bush spoke to his base, plans in the works for Kerry’s event highlighting the cost of health care will purposefully include undecided voters, the Kerry campaign said.
When asked about the contrast, Bush-Cheney spokeswoman Maria Comella said the campaign never asked party registration before passing out tickets to their event.
"We did not ask individuals who requested tickets what their party registration is because we know the President has broad based support. The campaign distributed tickets to everybody who wanted to see President Bush and actually had to turn people away. I don't think the Kerry campaign has that problem. And that's a good problem to have," Comella said.
Details of where and what time the event will take place on Thursday have not been released. The event is expected to take place in Southern New Hampshire and focus on the cost of health care.
In preparation to the trip, the Bush campaign will hold a press conference in Portsmouth on
on Wednesday, which will have area doctors discussing the need for medical malpractice insurance reform.
http://www.politicsnh.com/archives/pindell/2004/August/8_17kerry.shtml
Posted by: toni d at August 19, 2004 02:18 PM
...they're doing the same shite that they did on McCain...and McLelan...what a bunch of toilet bugs...where's the out rage?...reminds me of:
"The Grinch: One man's toxic waste is another man's potpourri. [Max the dog barks]...I don't know, it's some kind of soup."
Posted by: BlayznSddlz at August 19, 2004 02:20 PM
Time to exercise, do a little research into army docs, be back later.
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 19, 2004 02:22 PM
"Oh, murder and death and grief and sorrow!"
Posted by: wallow wallow washington at August 19, 2004 02:22 PM
Former Iraq Arms Inspector Faults Prewar Intelligence
By PHILIP SHENON
Published: August 19, 2004
WASHINGTON, Aug. 18 - A former Bush administration official who led the fruitless postwar effort to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq told Congress on Wednesday that the National Security Council led by Condoleezza Rice had botched intelligence information before the war and was "the dog that did not bark" over Iraq's weapons program.
In uncharacteristically caustic remarks about his former colleagues, the weapons inspector, David Kay, said the National Security Council had failed to protect President Bush from faulty prewar intelligence and had left Secretary of State Colin L. Powell "hanging out in the wind" when he tried to gather intelligence before the war about Iraq's weapons programs.
"Where was the N.S.C?" Dr. Kay asked, suggesting that the president had come to depend too heavily on information supplied by Ms. Rice, Mr. Bush's national security adviser, and that the president needed to reach out to others for national security information.
Posted by: toni d at August 19, 2004 02:23 PM
please do not try and post entire articles...
try...
Comment
Headline
snippet or most relevant paragraph
link
Posted by Nobody at August 15, 2004 08:14 AM
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 02:27 PM
Breaking news from BBC:
Iraq mortar fire hits US mission
A mortar shell has hit the roof of the US embassy in Baghdad, wounding at least one employee, an embassy spokesman has said.
The spokesman said the building was hit at around 1700-1730 (1300-1330 GMT).
US Ambassador John Negroponte is not believed to have been in Iraq at the time of the attack.
The embassy in the high-security Green Zone which has often been the target of insurgents opposed to the US-led presence in Iraq.
Posted by: toni d at August 19, 2004 02:27 PM
ZARQAWI IS ALONG IRAQ-IRAN BORDER
BAGHDAD [MENL] -- Abu Mussib Al Zarqawi, regarding as the leading foreign insurgent in Iraq, was believed to be shuttling between Iran and Iraq.
Western intelligence sources said the United States has quietly determined that Al Zarqawi has not been in Iraq for more than a month. The sources said Al Zarqawi left the Sunni Triangle for the Iran-Iraq border and has been moving in an arc from Iran in the east to Syria in the west as he continued to relay orders, plan operations and relay funding.
"Much of the time he is in Iran, where he has been given safe haven," an intelligence source said. "The United States won't cross the Iranian border to get him."
The sources said Al Zarqawi was last seen in the Iraqi town of Dour in the area of Baghdad on June 18, where he held a meeting with a senior aide to deposed President Saddam Hussein, Izzat Ibrahim Douri. Douri, regarded as a major financier of the Sunni insurgency, was said to have provided the Al Qaida-aligned insurgent with a large amount of weapons and equipment. From Al Dour, Al Zarqawi traveled to Iran and was said to have been in Marivan in northern Iran through late July.
http://www.menewsline.com/stories/2004/august/08_03_1.html
Posted by: War Dog
at August 19, 2004 02:28 PM
~ the swift boat stuff...what's crazy is that Gov. Bush & crew are dodging policy like a candybar in the swimming pool...I sure hope the natering nabobs don't slouch into office (again) by the sheer force of will to make us believe the lies and flip flop...remember what George Costanza said: "it's not a lie if you BELIEVE it to be true..."
Posted by: BlayznSddlz at August 19, 2004 02:28 PM
Hey, Cathy. Did you get my email from yesterday?
Posted by: English Opium Eater at August 19, 2004 02:28 PM
~ the swift boat stuff...what's crazy is that Gov. Bush & crew are dodging policy like a candybar in the swimming pool...I sure hope the nattering nabobs don't slouch into office (again) by the sheer force of will to make us believe the lies and flip flop...remember what George Costanza said: "it's not a lie if you BELIEVE it to be true..."
Posted by: BlayznSddlz at August 19, 2004 02:28 PM
Damn, Meg what kind of vaccinations do you have to get before you work at Fox?
Posted by: Nobody at August 19, 2004 02:18 PM
-----------
It's like Conan O'Brien...
MEG.... seeeeeecrets
Funny you mention vaccinations. The health insurance was the only reason I kept that job as long as I did. Say what you want about Fox, but they do have fabulous health insurance.
In fact, when I quit and looked into the COBRA payments, I found out they were paying about much more to insure me than they paid me weekly. With what they paid for my insurance, I could have bought individual insurance. Or just paid out of pocket for doctor visits and still come out ahead.
Actually as a local affilliate in a smaller market that they didn't care about (60% black) we weren't really told what to do too much.
We were, however, caught up in the whole issue of Murdoch owning too many stations. That is an interesting story actually. He was going to sell our station and, I think, nine others (the smallest stations he had). He was selling them to a "friend" until he could get his restrictions lifted, then he was going to buy them back, allegedly.
Then September 11 happenned and the whole thing was called off and Murdoch held on to all his stations.
Posted by: Meg at August 19, 2004 02:29 PM
Iran: Israel needs US's OK to attack our reactor
TEHRAN
A day after an Iranian official threatened to destroy Israel's Dimona nuclear reactor, charges from Iranian Defense Minister Ali Shamkhani that Israel would try to coordinate an attack on Iran with the United States were aired.
"It's certain to us that Israel won't carry out any military action without a green light from America. So, you can't separate the two," said Shamkhani in an interview with Al-Jazeera that aired late Wednesday night.
On Tuesday, the deputy chief of Iran's elite Revolutionary Guard said Iran would destroy the Dimona nuclear reactor if Israel were to attack Iran's nuclear facilities. Israel has not threatened to attack Iran's Bushehr reactor, but it has said it will not allow Iran to build a nuclear bomb.
In 1981, Israeli pilots destroyed a nuclear reactor under construction outside Baghdad because Israel feared Iraq would acquire a nuclear weapon.
The nuclear issue is only one of many over which Iran is at odds with the United States, with which it has not had diplomatic relations since the 1979 Islamic revolution toppled the US-backed shah of Iran.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1092884506371
Posted by: War Dog
at August 19, 2004 02:32 PM
Five journalists in the US have been fined for refusing to identify sources behind stories on nuclear espionage.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3579324.stm
Posted by: toni d at August 19, 2004 02:32 PM
A few lines of irony (Sorry about the double post BTW...)
U. S. NEWS
Miss America Pageant To Bring Back Talent Competition Following Protests
Agreement reached after Miss Congeniality
releases hostages.
WORLD NEWS
As Freedom Takes Root, Better
News Coming Out of Iraq
Especially since government shut down Al Jazeera.
Human Cloning Approved in U.K.
As long as no sex is involved.
POLITICS
“October Surprises” Announced
White House unveils schedule for pivotal month leading up to election.
Oct. 6 Bin Laden captured, finds Jesus, calls
Bush “great man.”
Oct. 9 Colin Powell throws out first ball at Falluja Little League game.
Oct. 15 Casual Friday constitutional amendment proposed.
Oct. 24 Invasion of Iran.
Oct. 31 Halloween candy tax rebate announced.
http://ironictimes.com/
Posted by: BlayznSddlz at August 19, 2004 02:34 PM
Why even use a Blog to blog with at all when what most people do here is chat?
Posted by Nobody at August 17, 2004 02:06 AM
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 02:35 PM
"Al Zarqawi traveled to Iran and was said to have been in Marivan in northern Iran through late July."
What a convenient reason to cross a border by "mistake" huh War Dog?
Or will it add up to "Iran is making nukes and harboring terrorists" so we have to invade and take their oil....
Ahem...too many times to that well already
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 02:35 PM
It worked. All this Zarkowee stuff has hypnotized me into forgetting Bush's business associate, Osama Bin Laden! Yep, forgot all about him. OOOOOOOOOOOO.... I AM GETTING SLEEEEEEPYYYY.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 02:36 PM
Leaving for awhile again.
See y'all later.
Bye (waving bye)
Posted by: toni d at August 19, 2004 02:39 PM
Why even use a Blog to blog with at all when what most people do here is chat?
Posted by Nobody at August 17, 2004 02:06 AM
Exactly there are other types of software that could handle this situation of the blog much more efficiently...
I'm currently looking into a couple options at the moment...My favorite of the two would need the most modifications before it would be palatable to the users here but I do believe it could be a seamless integration.
Do you need anything else clarified nickless?
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 02:40 PM
Cyas Toni ;)
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 02:41 PM
Speaking of Oct. Surprises (introduced to us by Ronnie Ray-Gun), I ran across this a while ago...this came out a while back, mind you:
"Militants target oil-rich Nigeria
By Ed Blanche
Growing sectarian violence between Muslims and Christians, a conflict that shows all the signs of erupting into an all-out religious war, is ravaging Nigeria.
Western intelligence services believe that Islamic extremists are making a determined effort to penetrate West Africa, an emerging world-class oil giant, amid signs that Osama bin Laden has singled out Nigeria for jihad..."
You can cut the convenience with a butter knife - this is one of those 3 card Monty lies just waiting to float to the surface...
here's the rest:http://www.janes.com/security/international_security/news/jiaa/jiaa040629_1_n.shtml
Posted by: BlayznSddlz at August 19, 2004 02:42 PM
Nobody..
Well we sure could use the oil..
Posted by: War Dog
at August 19, 2004 02:43 PM
"Well we sure could use the oil.."
The money spent on this war already could've put up enough wind and solar power to cover 20% of the demand for power...or about the same amount burned in oil burning power plants...
it's beating nails with a rock...it'll work for a little while but you're gonna bend a lot of nails bash your thumbs and screw up the wood work
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 02:45 PM
Opinion from Iraq
Now, I’m not going to make the argument that they should be killed because they don’t like Britney Spears. I am also not going to say that they don’t have a right to life or to their beliefs. I am going to ask the question why the Western world should be wringing its hands about dealing decisively with a heavily armed group of these guys, who are also the chief suspects behind a wave of liquor store and CD shop bombings in Baghdad and other cities. In any other situation, they would be considered criminal thugs and most people would begging the National Guard to come in and restore order. But in the case of Moqtada, you’d think I’d maligned La Resistance of World War II. How dare I call the brave mujahdeen assholes and thugs?
Which brings me back to my point. Where is the outrage and the sympathy for Moqtada? I mean, I understand the desire to avoid killing people in mass quantities; it’s really for the best that that doesn’t happen. I am against mass killings, period. But where are the crowds and the marches for U.S. out of Najaf or for Moqtada’s brave resistance such as those that preceded the war in the West? Where are the denunciations in the U.N. from people with credibility on human rights and violence like Germany or Canada? I’m not hearing them. Or at least, I’m not hearing of reports of them.
And here in Iraq, I’d guess that most people would “sympathize” with al-Sadr standing up to the hated Americans. But do they support al-Sadr himself? Overwhelmingly, no. In a survey (.doc file) done in June by the Iraq Center for Research and Strategic Studies, an Iraqi think tank run by Dr. Sadoun al-Dulame, he found that the person Iraqis would most vote for in a presidential race was … Ibrahim al-Jafari, the head of the Islamic Dawa Party (A Shi’a group.) The next most popular was “don’t know.” The Shi’a leader Abdul Aziz al-Hakim, the head of the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq, received 2.1 percent of the vote. What did Moqtada get? 1.1 percent. Hell, Saddam Hussein outpolled al-Sadr, with 1.7 percent of respondents choosing him as their favorite presidential candidate.
http://www.back-to-i
Posted by: War Dog
at August 19, 2004 02:48 PM
"...or about the same amount burned in oil burning power plants..." AMEN NOBODY!...Let's weigh the issues. On the one hand there's a finite power source that we KNOW FOR CERTAIN is going to be depleted...or on the other hand we can look ahead and start directing our energies (no pun intended) toward expanding the uses of known natural power sources that will last as long as there's a sun? [bearing in mind that after there's no sun, getting around town for under $2 per gallon will be a moot point]...
Posted by: BlayznSddlz at August 19, 2004 02:51 PM
Is Our Media Covering its Errors or Covering Them Up?
by Danny Schechter
As more mainstream media outlets admit their failures in covering the Iraq War, a question must be asked: are we seeing a real coming to grips with the media role that helped “sell the war” to the American public? Or could these recent mea culpas be something more insidious, more like what the CIA used to call a “limited hang out?” That phrase translates as “you concede a little to hide a lot.”
As the author of a book and maker of a film on Iraq war coverage, I am delighted to see some acknowledgement of errors and omissions on the part of media outlets that, when it really counted, become transmission belts for unsubstantiated government claims and pro-war propaganda.
It does give media critics some faith in the capacity of media outlets to acknowledge wrong doing, correct mistakes and admit they drank the Administration’s Kool Aid. Bear in mind that many of these same outlets were often arrogant and self-righteous at the time, impervious to critics who were treated largely as lepers in denial about real threats and the need for preemptive war. It has taken a long time for these admissions to surface, alas, well after they can do any good in terms of influencing policy.
In fact some prominent politicians including a presidential candidate are saying in effect, that none of this matters, that, knowing what they know, they would still have supported the war even if all of its rationalizations were invented and/or deliberately deceptive.
To this day, they won’t let the facts get in the way of a politically popular opinion.
That may be because the emerging media debate remains narrowly focused, avoiding deeper questions about the media’s performance.
Last week when I was asked to appear on a national TV news program to take part in a panel, on these issues I was told that we would talking about the pre-war coverage of WMDs. That call came, predictably, after the Washington Post carried a story second guessing its coverage focusing entirely on the run-up to the war. Once again TV producers were following a newspaper’s lead
Post Med
Posted by: dwight at August 19, 2004 02:56 PM
Now that was actually interesting War Dog...you must be slipping...;)
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 02:56 PM
Is Our Media Covering its Errors or Covering Them Up?
by Danny Schechter
As more mainstream media outlets admit their failures in covering the Iraq War, a question must be asked: are we seeing a real coming to grips with the media role that helped “sell the war” to the American public? Or could these recent mea culpas be something more insidious, more like what the CIA used to call a “limited hang out?” That phrase translates as “you concede a little to hide a lot.”
As the author of a book and maker of a film on Iraq war coverage, I am delighted to see some acknowledgement of errors and omissions on the part of media outlets that, when it really counted, become transmission belts for unsubstantiated government claims and pro-war propaganda.
It does give media critics some faith in the capacity of media outlets to acknowledge wrong doing, correct mistakes and admit they drank the Administration’s Kool Aid. Bear in mind that many of these same outlets were often arrogant and self-righteous at the time, impervious to critics who were treated largely as lepers in denial about real threats and the need for preemptive war. It has taken a long time for these admissions to surface, alas, well after they can do any good in terms of influencing policy.
In fact some prominent politicians including a presidential candidate are saying in effect, that none of this matters, that, knowing what they know, they would still have supported the war even if all of its rationalizations were invented and/or deliberately deceptive.
To this day, they won’t let the facts get in the way of a politically popular opinion.
That may be because the emerging media debate remains narrowly focused, avoiding deeper questions about the media’s performance.
Last week when I was asked to appear on a national TV news program to take part in a panel, on these issues I was told that we would talking about the pre-war coverage of WMDs. That call came, predictably, after the Washington Post carried a story second guessing its coverage focusing entirely on the run-up to the war. Once again TV producers were following a newspaper’s lead
Post Med
Posted by: dwight at August 19, 2004 02:56 PM
More vacation for Bush????
Jesus Christ. We should all have such vacations and still get paid for them.
Posted by: Meg at August 19, 2004 03:04 PM
Deja Vu all over again. Lookit:
"During the 2000 presidential campaign, then-Governor Bush liked to tell the story of a hypothetical waitress who would benefit from his tax cut plan. "Under current tax law," he said, "a single waitress supporting two children on an income of $22,000 faces a higher marginal tax rate than a lawyer making $220,000," adding, "Under my plan, she will pay no income tax at all."
== snipped ====
http://www.mediabistro.com/articles/cache/a2124.asp
Posted by: BlayznSddlz at August 19, 2004 03:04 PM
Slipping how so??
I didn't write it!
Posted by: War Dog
at August 19, 2004 03:05 PM
I wish they'd rerun Ring of Fire later on in the day. I just can't get up that early on Saturday.
Posted by: Meg at August 19, 2004 03:07 PM
>I didn't write it!
Posted by: War Dog at August 19, 2004 03:05 PM<
Liar! Li-yerrr!! [jusk kiddin', couldn't resist]
Posted by: BlayznSddlz at August 19, 2004 03:07 PM
No you didn't write it but you chose to present it...usually you choose along different lines ;)
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 03:08 PM
No you didn't write it but you chose to present it...usually you choose along different lines ;)
Posted by: Nobody at August 19, 2004 03:08 PM
-------
And chose it from a relatively reasonable source.
Posted by: Meg at August 19, 2004 03:09 PM
careful people we don't wanna give him a fat head...it might burst a blood vessel or something
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 03:12 PM
this is the best blog concerning Moon that
is out there:
Where in Washington, D.C. is Sun Myung Moon?
http://www.gorenfeld.net/blog/
John Gorenfeld was NPR.
Posted by: Cb at August 19, 2004 03:12 PM
It is just opinion..
But not enough coming out of Iraq..
They don't have much of a voice..
Or atleast it is getting hard to here..
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Where is that Fish hidding???
I want to here his take on Sadr..
And my good friend Meg is here..
Afternoon Meg!
Posted by: War Dog
at August 19, 2004 03:12 PM
Molly Ivins, yo!
"To think of the future and wait was merely another way of saying one was a coward; any idea of moderation was just another attempt to disguise one's unmanly character; ability to understand the question from all sides meant that one was totally unfitted for action; fanatical enthusiasm was the mark of a real man... Anyone who held violent opinions could always be trusted, and anyone who objected to them became a suspect."
The quote is from Thucydides, the Father of History, writing about the day in 415 B.C. when Athens sent its glorious fleet off to destruction in Sicily. I have not been re-reading Thucydides, but found the quote in a footnote in a splendid little book called "Gag Rule: On the Suppression of Dissent and the Stifling of Democracy" by Lewis Lapham..."
-snipped-
http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?itemid=17498
Posted by: BlayznSddlz at August 19, 2004 03:13 PM
I need a new bike. I think I'll pre-emptively attack some nut in the midwest because he might have a gun. Then I can steal his bike. Cool, huh? I'm a fuckin' genius.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 03:15 PM
Better see how big the gun is first..
You might end up nailed to the barn wall..
Posted by: War Dog at August 19, 2004 03:18 PM
I need a new bike. I think I'll pre-emptively attack some nut in the midwest because he might have a gun. Then I can steal his bike. Cool, huh? I'm a fuckin' genius.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 03:15 PM
-------------
Be sure to bring your tank and grenade launchers. After all, intelligence tells us he might be stockpiling rubber bands.
Posted by: Meg at August 19, 2004 03:20 PM
Hey, rent "Lessons of Darkness" by Werner Herzog.
It's about the Kuwati oil fires back in 1991.
And while you're at it, search out an extremely rare VHS tape of the following 3 films:
1. The Panama Deception
2. State of Siege
3. Hotel Terminus
#1 is about (obviously) Panama. It was made in 1990, and it is one of the first documentaries that called the US media's role into question.
They just blindly obeyed Bush I.
State of Siege is a French/Greek film about US involvement in South America (released in 1973, around the Chilean coup). It shows how we trained terrorists.
Hotel Terminus is about how we hid Klaus Barbie, infamous Nazi killer. Similar to Project Paperclip.
I knew our government was corrupt way back in 1986.
Posted by: English Opium Eater at August 19, 2004 03:22 PM
I'll shoot him in the back of the head while he's on his bike. It's for our safety, so that's ok. He's an enemy combatant. With a really nice bike. !BLAM!
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 03:26 PM
Where is that Fish hidding???
I want to here his take on Sadr..
Posted by: War Dog at August 19, 2004 03:12 PM
Lord knows we've heard enough out of Nobody
Posted by: Nolife at August 19, 2004 03:27 PM
Blam!???
What was that a blunderbuss??
http://www.blunderbuss-antiques.co.uk/
Posted by: War Dog at August 19, 2004 03:28 PM
_________________________________________________
The Dreamspell Story
The Dreamspell is part of a prophetic "time release."
It is coded into the information left by the Classic or Galactic Mayan.
This insight was discovered by Dr. José Argüelles.
It was brought to light in his pioneering work on the codes of time, The Mayan Factor, in which he identified the dates for the world-wide peace event known as the Harmonic Convergence.
Dr. Argüelles and his wife Lloydine further revealed and refined their understanding of the secrets of 4th dimensional time in their subsequent work, The Dreamspell.
According to Dr. Argüelles, a Dreamspell is "any agreed upon belief system which creates a continuing state of consciousness."
We are now at the end of the Dreamspell of history and at the beginning of the Dreamspell of galactic culture.
This means that we are coming to the end of the belief in the male dominant, warrior hero, fear and separation paradigm.
And we are preparing to move into the love based, artist hero paradigm of natural time.
All we have to do is change our view of time and open ourselves to the love that is inherent in us all.
Yes, this is the end of time.
It is also the end of the world as we know it.
But, that does not mean destruction.
It simply means that we are preparing to birth a new world in which we can live and love in peace, harmony and goodwill for all.
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http://www.2012.com.au/mayan.html
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Posted by: at August 19, 2004 03:28 PM
English Opium Eater-
Hotel Terminus on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=309&item=6316486356&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
Posted by: Meg at August 19, 2004 03:28 PM
Then I guess I can have his house, and the rest of his stuff as well. Wonder if he's got any women or children I can play with?
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 03:30 PM
SAVE OUR DEMOCRACY. (what's left of it to save)
Hackers unite against the electronic voting machines on November 2nd.
We need you to hack us out of this fascist plutocracy.
CALLING ALL HACKERS. The people need you to save us from King George.
Prediction:
November 3rd. Hackers: 1 Voting Machines: 0
Posted by: Scott at August 19, 2004 03:30 PM
To make America safe, first we must kill all the people who have things we might want.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 03:31 PM
Lord knows we've heard enough out of Nobody
Posted by: Nolife at August 19, 2004 03:27 PM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I know we could be taking banana bread..
And pretending we are at a bar..
What'll you have Nolife?
But I just want type "BUSH SUCKS" all day!!
That works for me!
Posted by: War Dog at August 19, 2004 03:31 PM
What was that a blunderbuss??
http://www.blunderbuss-antiques.co.uk/
Posted by: War Dog at August 19, 2004 03:28 PM
Big gun/ Small Dick
Posted by: Nolife at August 19, 2004 03:31 PM
Are you speaking for Nolife or No nic???
Posted by: War Dog at August 19, 2004 03:32 PM
This means that we are coming to the end of the belief in the male dominant, warrior hero, fear and separation paradigm.
This means that we are coming to the end of the belief in the male dominant, warrior hero, fear and separation paradigm.
This means that we are coming to the end of the belief in the male dominant, warrior hero, fear and separation paradigm.
This means that we are coming to the end of the belief in the male dominant, warrior hero, fear and separation paradigm.
This means that we are coming to the end of the belief in the male dominant, warrior hero, fear and separation paradigm.
This means that we are coming to the end of the belief in the male dominant, warrior hero, fear and separation paradigm.
This means that we are coming to the end of the belief in the male dominant, warrior hero, fear and separation paradigm.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 03:34 PM
I have a pretty good bananna bread recipie.
Posted by: Meg at August 19, 2004 03:34 PM
All day blowing Bush on the net. That's livin'!
Posted by: Nolife at August 19, 2004 03:34 PM
I'm a WAR american, I can kill anyone I want, and take their things. That's the law, those are the rules, deal with it, you whiners.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 03:35 PM
"Lord knows we've heard enough out of Nobody"
Obviously you haven't ;D
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 03:35 PM
Shut up, I'm in charge, I lead the world, you WILL capitulate and lick my stanky bunghole! FEAR me, I am a WAR AMERICAN! Now fry me uh egg, bitch!
pooooooooot!
Posted by: WAR AMERICAN at August 19, 2004 03:36 PM
Hey War American, try not to sprain your tongue on words like "capitulate". That's four syllables!
Posted by: Meg at August 19, 2004 03:37 PM
I'm going to turn the No nic over to you Nobody..
Got to run to the bank...
Good chance to pick up on some recipies!
Later...
Wado
Posted by: War Dog at August 19, 2004 03:38 PM
Wardog & Nobody belong together. Two pathetic old men.
Posted by: Nolife at August 19, 2004 03:38 PM
I love you meg..
Got to run!!!
Posted by: War Dog at August 19, 2004 03:39 PM
cyas War Dog
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 03:39 PM
Al Zarqawi is the Iraqi Boobeyman.... their Keyser Soze... their Swiss-Army-Knife-Of-Blame.
Bush's folks CREATED the legend of Al Zarqawi because they needed him in order to show a link to Al Qaeda and that the violence was not the Iraqi people... who were happy and prospering and loved their American occupiers very very much.
Posted by: Fishgrease
at August 19, 2004 03:39 PM
Here's an interesting site for Rev. Moon. the "True Parent"
http://www.tparents.org/
Moonies have a meetin'
http://www.tparents.org/library/unification/talks/jenkins/jenkins%2D011119.htm
"The conference began with Rev. Kwak's address presented by Dr. Bill Bruhoeffer. It was an excellent beginning. Then Rev. Jim Flynn gave the IIFWP Power Point presentation. Excellent VIP guests attended who are the fruit of 20 years of direct education of America's key allies. Airforce Veteran, Col. D'Amico, Karl Erickson (former AFC President), Rev. Ephraim and many others have stood with us for years through the highs and the lows. They are confident in True Parents role to bring peace and strong families. They were very moved by this comprehensive presentation of Father's vision and work to become Amb. for Peace."
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 19, 2004 03:40 PM
Boobeyman!!!!!!
I meant Boogeyman... of course.
I doubt Iraq has a Boobeyman, but if they do, we created him too.
Posted by: Fishgrease
at August 19, 2004 03:40 PM
Now that was sarcasm of high style Mr Fishgrease
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 03:41 PM
Fishgrease. Thank God
A real man
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 03:41 PM
~~~ Now that was sarcasm of high style Mr Fishgrease ~~~
Donka... N!
Posted by: Fishgrease
at August 19, 2004 03:41 PM
Bye War Dog
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 19, 2004 03:41 PM
http://www.starcodes.com/Pages/cbinfo.html
How to use the
Cellular Geometry
Coloring Book
Cellular Geometry
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You can learn to feel and perceive energy by allowing the geometric designs and shapes to activate your brain, your body and your creativity as you color.
Before coloring the geometric patterns make a copy of all the pictures.
http://www.starcodes.com/images/ucolor.html
Printable Coloring Book Pages
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 03:41 PM
Cathy in Seattle & Fishgrease
Finally some class on the blog.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 03:43 PM
Meg! You're out of pocket, girl. Get your butt back in your kitchen and make me some biscuits. I'm a WAR AMERICAN, and don't take no guff offa no sassymouthed bimbo! Girlies have no place in WAR, so they can't be real WAR AMERICANS. Bush is our WAR PRESIDENT, and we're all his WAR CITIZENS. These are the United States of WAR AMERICA! Now fetch my beer and make my dinner and shut your yap! AMERICA is at WAR with terrorism, and that WAR will never end. Get over it and do your duty to your country, be a WAR BIMBO.
Posted by: WAR AMERICAN at August 19, 2004 03:44 PM
~~~ Fishgrease. Thank God ... A real man ~~~~
Oh yeah! Enough with the Girlie Men! Fishgrease is here!
*burp*
Posted by: Fishgrease
at August 19, 2004 03:45 PM
Speak Fishgrease and clear the stench left by Wardog and Nobody
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 03:48 PM
"and that WAR will never end. Get over it and do your duty to your country..."
You're kidding, right? Are you an Ameri-CAN, or an Ameri-CAN'T?...get your own phuggin' suds...and bring me one back too - since you're up...
Posted by: BlayznSddlz at August 19, 2004 03:48 PM
First thing President Bush is going to do next January is sign a presidential order to round up all the retards, feebs, gimps and old fuckers and put 'em in labor camps. No more free ride for the disabled crips or morons. We're at WAR! If they don't need to work to support AMERICA, then they damn well don't need to eat.
Posted by: WAR AMERICAN at August 19, 2004 03:50 PM
round up all the retards,
feebs, gimps and old fuckers and put 'em in labor camps.
Posted by: WAR AMERICAN at August 19, 2004 03:50 PM
Nobody is all of those.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 03:53 PM
The second thing he's going to do is designate entertainment zones, and entertainers won't be allowed to leave them. That means sctors, writers, singers, musicians, and non-whites. This way we can still have freedom of speech, but keep it where it can't hurt right thinking WAR AMERICANS.
Posted by: WAR AMERICAN at August 19, 2004 03:54 PM
Gee nickless is such a sweet individual don't you think?
The very model of decent behavior and all.
Posted by: Nobody at August 19, 2004 03:55 PM
Nobody is not entertaining. He's a bore.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 03:56 PM
Morning all!
What's everyone think of John Kerry whippin out the big stick and flopping it on the table?
Ok that was a bit over the top.. but let's face it. It's a whole new campaign after today, cuz Kerry ain't gonna take no more shit. Kinda reminds me of Michael Douglas' monologue at the end of the movie The American President.
Anyone wanna take bets on whether Bush and his pigslapping crew will continue to bury themselves with the war record issue?
Posted by: Scoopster_RI at August 19, 2004 03:56 PM
"Nobody is all of those"
yes yes, we get it already. shut the fuck up. we don't care. you don't like Nobody, and gar gar and poot poot. NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP. damn.
"please, someone help me not like Nobody and agreee with me and validate my pooting and snarking and grumpling around."
NO. SHUT UP. YOU WHINY ASSHOLE!
god, I hate people.
Posted by: oh fucking GUESS. at August 19, 2004 03:56 PM
It's very strange how someone like nickless there can say how terrible I am...
Why I don't remember behaving as poorly as them at any point today...
Hey nickless refresh my memory...exactly why are your panties in a bunch?
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 03:57 PM
Scoopster RI
More class. There's hope for this blog yet.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 03:58 PM
Uh oh...now someone thinks that I'm a bore...crap MR is gonna fire me now...
Buhahahahahahahah
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 03:59 PM
god, I hate people.
Posted by: oh fucking GUESS. at August 19, 2004 03:56 PM
And people hate you
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 03:59 PM
My panties are in a bunch because you are nonmutual and not full of doubleplus goodthink and support for my pooooooopy. Fall for my lies! Worship me! Tell me you love me. Give me money! I hate you, you boring mean dumb old snailfart!
Posted by: The Me of The Sadnesses at August 19, 2004 04:01 PM
Scoopster RI
More class. There's hope for this blog yet.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 03:58 PM
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
I've actually got at least five classes, and they'll all be coming back in about two weeks..
...with their 18-24 year old butts crumpled into capri pants and cleavage-cut shirts...
DAMN I love working at a university.
Posted by: Scoopster_RI at August 19, 2004 04:01 PM
So they ignored your email campaign did they?
You really need to campaign harder ;)
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 04:02 PM
You said you were leaving, but now you're back. You are a liar.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:03 PM
any word yet on how they plan on covering the RNC convention??
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:03 PM
No one hates me. EVERYONE loves JIK. ESPECIALLY you. Without me, you have no existance. I am the light by which the shadow you are is made. Without me, you languish is oblivion. You can't admit it, you can't deal with it, but you love ME more than almost anything else that could ever exist. That's because I'm JIK, and you're not.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:03 PM
good to see you arboreal aliteratoror
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 04:04 PM
So, Nobody... looks like the explosions going on right now around the shrine are softening up operations for the attack... which I still think will come at daybreak Iraq time... which is 2000 hrs my time and 1800 hrs ET.
War Doggy is trying to equate my prediction with his. Both were wrong... but I made mine at a time when all the major news outlets were reporting peace due to Al Sadr's reported acceptance of the offer from the conference.
Still, if the attack doesn't come tonight, I'm still very wrong. Over 24 hours off and its just a lousy prediction. No excuses.
Posted by: Fishgrease
at August 19, 2004 04:04 PM
*************************************************
((((((((((((((((For Janeane & Sam))))))))))))))))
http://www.occupation101.com/
************************************************
Posted by: Miss Anne Thropic at August 19, 2004 04:05 PM
You really should go and cut and paste that nickless girl ;)
And JIK...I'm not sure I "love" you depends on what you've been baking ;P
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 04:06 PM
Fishy, if you predict wrong, SAILOR MOON will PUNISH you!
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:07 PM
So... umm.. where's Randi today?
She out sick again?
Posted by: Scoopster_RI at August 19, 2004 04:08 PM
I think things got thrown for a loop when Sadrs "acceptance" hit the news...it may be a fabrication...miscommunication...I can't tell but it hitting the news seemed to cause a stumble...
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 04:08 PM
Miss Anne
The resident queen of bitching and moaning has arrived
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:09 PM
Fishy, if you predict wrong, SAILOR MOON will PUNISH you!
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:07 PM
-=-=-=-
YES!!!!
MOON SCEPTER.... BITCHSLAP!
Posted by: Scoopster_RI at August 19, 2004 04:09 PM
Fishy goes "hentai sailor moon" or "pg sailor moon"
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 04:10 PM
getting ready to do a basic banana bread w/chocolate chips, and an apricot bred with white chocolate chips (white carmel... the white fondant kind melts away during baking)
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:10 PM
Who's Sailor Moon?
Do I get to choose my method of torture?
When the nicless person heralded my arrival as finally, a real man... I, of course, immediately indulged in the fantasy that it might be Janeane. Highly unlikely.. but a bit more likely than my first choice, Catherine Zeta-Jones. Well, my VERY first fantasy-poster-calling-me-a-real-man would be my 5th grade teacher Mrs. Forsworth... but that's obviously right out.
Posted by: Fishgrease
at August 19, 2004 04:11 PM
Damn I almost had a diabetic seizure reading that...
Why the hell you don't got a bakery young man?
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 04:12 PM
So, you're cooking. I just wiped my ass. Big deal.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:12 PM
Oh, here comes frank, that poor twisted little flamertard who can't even post under his own name any more. Must be sortta like being covered in birdshit, then plexicoated that way so it never comes off. Bummer. For him, I mean.
Hmmm, do I hear teeth grinding? And sputterbuttmuttering? Yep, sure do, must be frank!
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:13 PM
Oh yea.. if you can stomach to read an article on Fox News' website, help me out and report this asshole to Media Matters:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,129366,00.html
Posted by: Scoopster_RI at August 19, 2004 04:16 PM
Frank has courage of his convictions. Unlike flipflopper Kerry.
When will he say the war was a mistake?
ANSWER ME!!!
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:16 PM
Nobody,
~~~ I think things got thrown for a loop when Sadrs "acceptance" hit the news...it may be a fabrication...miscommunication...I can't tell but it hitting the news seemed to cause a stumble ~~~
Yes, but my x-ray vision allowed me to see through it immediately! I predicted a failure of peace at a time when the media saw it as acheived!
*so I out guessed Wolf Blitzer*
*big genius here*
*Fishgrease twirls a party favor and whistles*
Posted by: Fishgrease
at August 19, 2004 04:16 PM
Because running even a small bakery would take too much of my time right now. Besides, I'm more interested in confectionary. For the time being, recipe development is more my area. Eventually I'll open a shop, but not for another five to seven years. Too much to do before then.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:17 PM
Five words Mr. Kerry,
The War Was A Mistake
I can't hear youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:19 PM
+ *.* * + *.* .The Ladies' Afternoon Literary Offering + *.* * + *.* . + *.* * + *.* .+**.+**++.*..+ .* *..+**.+**.*..+ .* *..+**
If only it were possible for us to see farther than our knowledge reaches . . . perhaps we would bear our sadnesses with greater trust than we have in our joys.
For they are the moments when something new has entered us, something unknown; our feelings grow mute in shy embarrassment, everything in us withdraws, a silence arises, and the new experience, which no one knows, stands in the midst of it all and says nothing.
So you mustn't be frightened, dear Mr. Kappus, if a sadness rises in front of you, larger than any you have ever seen; if an anxiety, like light and cloud-shadows, moves over your hands and over everything you do.
You must realize that something is happening to you, that life has not forgotten you, that it holds you in its hand and will not let you fall.
Why do you want to shut out of your life any uneasiness, any misery, any depression, since after all you don't know what work these conditions are doing inside you? Why do you want to persecute yourself with the questions of where all this is coming from and where it is going? Since you know, after all, that you are in the midst of transitions and you wished for nothing so much as to change.
If there is anything unhealthy in your reactions, just bear in mind that sickness is the means by which an organism frees itself from what is alien . . . you must be patient like someone who is sick, and confident like someone who is recovering; for perhaps you are both.
--Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet.*..+ .* *..+**.+** .* *..+**.+**++.*.+ *.* .+ .*.* *..+**.+**+...*..+**.+**++.*..+ .* .*..
Posted by: The New World Order Ladies Choir (4:20 Book Group meeting) at August 19, 2004 04:20 PM
Stop making excuses, woman. Do something with your life.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:20 PM
Five words Mr. Kerry,
The War Was A Mistake
I can't hear youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:19 PM
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Because you're deaf and stupid.
Posted by: Scoopster_RI at August 19, 2004 04:21 PM
frank does not have courage. frank has too much free time, and is a huge pussy. He's 32, and lives in his mom's basement, munching ho-hos and frinkies all day, washing it down with mountain dew mixed with chocolate milk. When he feels adventurous, he eats half a slimjim, gets a tummy ache, and cries. He thinks Sylvester Stallone is just DREAMY, and wants to touch Stallone's butt and giggle like a petite and frilly schoolgirl, because that's how Stallone makes him feel. He wishes he still had a 48 waist, so he could wear the checkered catholic school uniform skirt. He thinks Stallone would like that.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:23 PM
You think the war was a mistake. Don't you Scoopster? Why do you give Kerry a pass.?
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:23 PM
"As we confront their constant delay and inclination to do evil, we will categorically not allow ... militias," Allawi said at a news conference. "This is the final call for them to disarm."
Wait... who's got an inclination to do evil here? Al Sadr is sitting in a Mosque drinking strong tea. Allawi is blowing the hell out of everything in sight!
This is lost on the Western Media, of course... War is Peace... all of that... but it is not lost on the Iraqi people.
Revolución!!!!
Posted by: Fishgrease
at August 19, 2004 04:23 PM
Do you want a great mind like Frank's to spend the day in forced penury? A mind like Frank's needs to be free to think.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:26 PM
"Stop making excuses, woman. Do something with your life."
since there are several women present, is there a reason you expect someone to telepathically intuit which one you're speaking to?
I mean, aside from the fact that many american women expect men to know what they're thinking?
hey... is you a chick?
uh... Shelly?
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:27 PM
~~~ A mind like Frank's needs to be free to think. ~~~
Am mind like Frank's needs to quit dressing in pink, fuzzy sweaters.
Posted by: Fishgrease
at August 19, 2004 04:27 PM
a mind like franks needs to be located and reinstalled
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:30 PM
Fishgrease,
We need your insights on Iraq. Leave the humour to the great Carrot Top.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:30 PM
Key molecule responsible for
the development of auto
immune deficiency diseases
identified
http://www.oeaw.ac.at/english/home.html
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:31 PM
sick of you. die now.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:31 PM
Ya know sometimes I just have to sit back and watch you guys operate ;)
and laugh....and laugh....
but that's just me
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 04:32 PM
One question and I will leave:
Why do you give Kerry a pass on Iraq? Did I miss his exit strategy during his speech?
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:34 PM
You think the war was a mistake. Don't you Scoopster? Why do you give Kerry a pass.?
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:23 PM
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=
You gonna keep putting words in everyone's mouth?
Or are you gonna pay attention to the facts?
The bill that was passed, with Kerry's vote, was a -conditional- authorization in order to get inspectors in and PROVE that Saddam had either WMD or a connection to 9/11. He had neither, Hans Blix proved it, and Bush ignored it when he sent OUR American brothers in there.
Go read it for yourself : http://thomas.loc.gov/home/c107query.html , search for H.J.RES.114
And in case you didn't know, when a bill is passed by both houses of Congress, and is signed into law by the President, it becomes a law. You know what that means? It means -your- President can be impeached for violation of a law of Congress. It means that any person in this country can ask a district attorney to have a criminal indictment brought against the President.
..and it also means that John Kerry, who has stated over and over that he would still support this bill today because it provides the proper authorization and burden of proof for a President to go to war against Iraq, has NOT changed his mind about the war. He was cautious from the beginning, and rightly so.
Posted by: Scoopster_RI at August 19, 2004 04:34 PM
Can't be sick of ME, I'm JIK, and everbuddy loves JIK, because I iz so MIGHTY and stuff! That's why everyone LOVES me. They want to KISS me, they want to marrrrrry me. Butthey can not, no no, because I am already married to someone far more magnificent than they can ever imagine being, so they must suffer and cry, but even so, they do so while loving me. That is the glory and the beauty and the wonder and the joy of loving the miracle of ME! JIK! NOT YOU! ME!
cool, huh!
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:36 PM
sick of you. die now.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:37 PM
~~~ We need your insights on Iraq. Leave the humour to the great Carrot Top. ~~~
Touche'
I only hope my execution of one is better than the other. Sometimes I wonder.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 19, 2004 04:37 PM
Sigh..
Scroll.
Posted by: Scoopster_RI at August 19, 2004 04:38 PM
Scoopster,
You're an intelligent articulate man, whose heart is in the right place, but deep down you know the war was never about WMD's, it was about oil. John Kerry knows this too. The WMD's excuse was a smokescreen.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:38 PM
yes. execute carrot top. good idea, Fishy!
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:38 PM
Tony Blair's (remember him) former envoy to Iraq says the war may be a total waste.........
Posted by: RWiley
at August 19, 2004 04:39 PM
ok, I gortta go bake bread, clean some hooves (a horse's, not mine, contrary to popular LIE LIES ALL FUCKING LIES, I don't actually have hooves m'self), and teach a dog the difference between a skunk and a fox.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:41 PM
another family value right wing neocon Christian George Bush shill gets caught with his hands in a little girl's pants.........
http://www.startribune.com/stories/484/4935870.html
Posted by: RWiley
at August 19, 2004 04:42 PM
And when I get back?
Have this place cleaned up. You people are disgusting.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:42 PM
Contrary to popular opinion, Scoopster, the truth doesn't set you free. The truth hurts. I'm voting for Kerry too, holding my nose in the process.
The war was never about WMDs. It was about oil. Deal with it, Scoopster.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:43 PM
It was about more than oil, and the fact that Halliburton is there being paid billions for doing everything under the desert sun is proof..
And my point was that Kerry knew that WMD was a smokescreen, and so did the Congress, and that's why there was such a monumental burden of proof built into this law.
Speaking of which, Did you read it? The wording is very clear - either prove there was WMD, or prove Saddam had ties to 9/11, or no war for George. I don't remember any proof before the war that either condition had been met, do you?
Posted by: Scoopster_RI at August 19, 2004 04:43 PM
I understand your pain, Scoopster. But the harsh reality is that Kerry could've have voted against the war.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:45 PM
Watching TV and scouring the web for the last few hours, I've seen the "news".
Problem... its not very new.
The TV folks show us tape of explosions in Najaf and talk to us like they're nearly live... BREAKING NEWS!!!! The explosions they're showing are in daylight. You can see the shadows from the sun. I see still pictures on all the news sites showing those same explosions... obviously taken yesterday afternoon.
Its now coming up on 0100 hrs ... ONE AM ... in Najaf... August 20th. I would be shocked if it were not dark there now.
I'm not upset by the general failure of Western news gatherers. Its their inability to acknowledge that failure that bugs me. Great JESUS I hate CNN!
Posted by: Fishgrease
at August 19, 2004 04:47 PM
for the millionth time the authorization was not a vote for war...it had conditions to it and by not fulfilling those condition Bush broke the law...
Indict Buch/Cheney 2005
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 04:48 PM
Contrary to popular opinion, Scoopster, the truth doesn't set you free. The truth hurts. I'm voting for Kerry too, holding my nose in the process.
The war was never about WMDs. It was about oil. Deal with it, Scoopster.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:43 PM
-=-=-=-=-
Umm.. my point is that we were all led to BELIEVE that the war was about WMDs. Or did you forget that part?
Like I said, it was about far more than oil. I think that much is clear now - this entire situation was planned, even if it wasn't planned very well.
And thank you for deciding to vote for Kerry. It just gos to show how so many people who have different opinions on so many issues can at least agree that something has to be done to get rid of Bush.
Posted by: Scoopster_RI at August 19, 2004 04:49 PM
It won't kill you to admit that Kerry should've voted against the war. I'm so tired of the excuses.
Janeane would've.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:50 PM
CNN!
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 19, 2004 04:47 PM
I tried..... to watch CNN and Candy Crowley this PM.....She had the goods on a swiftboat liar and let him slide under her skirt.....Yuk......I wanted to puke.....
Posted by: RWiley
at August 19, 2004 04:51 PM
Umm.. my point is that we were all led to BELIEVE that the war was about WMDs. Or did you forget that part?
Like I said, it was about far more than oil. I think that much is clear now - this entire situation was planned,
even if it wasn't planned very well.
Posted by Scoopster RI
I never bought the WMD crap, and I doubt a bright guy like you did either. Admit it, you're giving Kerry a pass, and you're getting on me for demanding a lot from our leaders.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:53 PM
media whores who thinking it hip
did thrive on a chaney bush tip
but coming november
they will all dismember
and jump off like rats on a ship
Posted by: RWiley
at August 19, 2004 04:54 PM
~~~ Janeane would've. ~~~
Yes. Janeane would have voted against the war. But you see... Janeane AND Kerry are better than Bush. Most pieces of furniture would be better than Bush.
So, in that we've little chance of getting Janeane or, say, a dining room table elected President... we're sticking with Kerry. We've a very good chance of getting him elected.
Why are you having trouble figuring all this out. It couldn't be clearer!
Posted by: Fishgrease
at August 19, 2004 04:54 PM
Well that's the thing...There were conditions and Bush didn't have legal authorization to use force....
Go d/l the document and stop your prevaricating ;0
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 04:55 PM
(((((((((((((((((((((((FOR JANEANE & SAM)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Posted by: Miss Anne Thropic at August 19, 2004 04:56 PM
Whether Kerry is better than Bush is not the argument. The argument is whether Kerry should've against the war, and whether anyone here except me is man enough to say it.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:59 PM
It won't kill you to admit that Kerry should've voted against the war. I'm so tired of the excuses.
Janeane would've.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:50 PM
John Kerry should not have placed his faith in a president who claimed to be a uniter not a divider.....he should not have voted to give Bush the power to start this war.......He was fooled by his faith in the democratic system.......and was mistaken to trust the POTUS....
Posted by: RWiley
at August 19, 2004 04:59 PM
I understand your pain, Scoopster. But the harsh reality is that Kerry could've have voted against the war.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 04:45 PM
-=-=-=-=-=-
He certainly could have.. but as a lawmaker, I'm sure he felt the burden of proof was high enough where even a fuck-up like Bush couldn't beat it.
Trusting Bush not to fuck this whole thing up is probably the only real issue where Kerry, and many of us, were so very wrong.
Posted by: Scoopster_RI at August 19, 2004 05:00 PM
should've voted against the war.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 05:00 PM
Join us on September 11, 2004 at
UN Plaza in San Francisco
11:00 am to 1:00pm
Kick-off of national campaign
Mothers Speak for Truth about The War on Terror
How many dead?
military, contractor, civilian
How many US troops wounded?
5,000? 11,000? 3,000? 16,000?
Posted by: Call for honoring the dead with a day of national mourning at August 19, 2004 05:00 PM
You're rationalizing, Scoopster.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 05:01 PM
He was fooled by his faith in the democratic
system.......and was mistaken to trust the POTUS....
Posted by: RWiley at August 19, 2004 04:59 PM
He was fooled? I thought Kerry was the smart one? He wasn't fooled. He knew what he was doing.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 05:04 PM
sorry nickless but war was never authorized so Kerry couldn't have voted for war...
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 05:05 PM
Allawi said authorities "have not heard directly from al-Sadr himself."
When "we hear from him," the interim government will push ahead in developing a truce and seeing that the demands are carried out, he said.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/082004X.shtml
Fishgrease Comment:
What Allawi would have said had he been speaking truthfully... is this:
When "we hear from him," the interim government will push ahead with our attack because hearing from him will confirm that he is indeed IN the shrine which is the only thing holding us back right now.
Posted by: Fishgrease
at August 19, 2004 05:07 PM
>>I've actually got at least five classes, and they'll all be coming back in about two weeks..
...with their 18-24 year old butts crumpled into capri pants and cleavage-cut shirts...
DAMN I love working at a university.<<
Scoopster;
are you 18-24 also? or one of those old prof types who look at 18-24 year old girls?
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 19, 2004 05:07 PM
How about less talk about poop and bimbos, and more talk about the Democrat hackers outsmarting the Republican hackers in this upcoming rigged election?
Posted by: Scott at August 19, 2004 05:07 PM
Did I miss the poop and bimbos conversation?
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 19, 2004 05:11 PM
* Know thy ENEMY! *
((((((((((((((((((((((FOR JANEANE & SAM))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
http://www.journeyswithgeorge.com/
Posted by: Miss Anne Thropic at August 19, 2004 05:11 PM
Time for Miss Anne Thropic's Whine of the day.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 05:12 PM
- Another Source Of Facts On Sadr & Najaf -
There have been media reports that so called militant fanatic crazy cleric Al Sadr rejected a peace proposal and wants to fight to the death. That is uninformed and Wrong. United Arab Emirates Khaleej Times has some facts:
A spokesman for rebel leader Moqtada Sadr expressed surprise on Wednesday at threats of an imminent attack on his militia by Iraqi forces, saying the Shiite cleric had agreed to demands made by peace mediators.
"We are surprised by the declaration and threat by the minister of defense ... because we have given our full accord to the initiative presented by the delegation,"Ahmed Shibani said on Al Jazeera television.
Defence Minister Hazem al-Shaalan vowed that a "decisive"battle would be launched against Sadr militiamen, who he said must surrender within hours in the central holy city of Najaf, where heavy fighting raged earlier Wednesday.
Shibani said: "The delegation came with three demands, including that the Mehdi Army hands (the security of) the old city to the suitable party...and that the Sadr movement participates in the political process."
He added that the Sadr movement was ready to take part in the political process "if it is honest.”
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/index00.asp
Please feel free to pass this on to papers & television you read in order for there to be some real journalism and truth out there.
Posted by: Great American Patriot at August 19, 2004 05:12 PM
"Fierce fighting erupts in Najaf"
"Fierce fighting has erupted in the city of Najaf after a rebel Shi'ite cleric defied an Iraqi government threat to attack his stronghold in a holy shrine and rejected demands that he end his uprising."
http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=568226§ion=news
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 05:13 PM
Afternoon everyone. ;) It's a gorgeous day here! Going up to Park City tonight to par-tay with all the other fancypants elitists that live there. *snark*
So, Fish... MSNBC had "Imminent attack on Najaf threatened." (I'm in audit at work, so it's been damn tough for me to read the news today.) So, perhaps you were only off by 24 hours or so... But, I'm thinking daybreak in Iraq will tell us. Just have to sit and wait and hope for the best.
Alrighty... back to work (a.k.a. HELL) I go.
Posted by: Gay Boi Charlie at August 19, 2004 05:14 PM
Fish, check that story in my latest post.
Interesting stuff.
Posted by: Great American Patriot at August 19, 2004 05:16 PM
The Catholic Church
wasn't just a patriarchy.
It was misogynistic.
..."medieval contemporary society's view of woman.
Starting with the introduction of Eve, the Church stated that women were vile, carnal and not to be trusted.
With the writing of the 2Malleus Maleficarum by two Catholic bishops, the war on women was unleashed with a ferocity and severity that today, is difficult to comprehend.
Women had not rights in medieval Europe. They could not own land, could not vote and could not hold jobs.
(A great deal like Islamic countries today.)
Any single woman was suspect and if she were beautiful and independent, doubly so.
It has been estimated that for the six hundred years of the Inquisition's reign of terror, that between 300,000 and 3 million people were executed for witchcraft or heresy.
Close to 90% of those condemned were women.
http://www.deborahgoodrich.com/Wicca/goddess.htm
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 05:17 PM
So how different is this ad for "Journeys with George" from the Hedgefundmistress site War Dog was dismayed about yesterday?
http://www.hedgefundmistress.com/JohnKerryScrapbook.html
both look to be bright young women hawking their wares and using the candidates to sell it for them.
strange, the hedgefundmistress site says it's temporarily disabled.
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 19, 2004 05:17 PM
Have fun in Park City, Charlie!
Great place!
I go there to breath the same air as other liberals!
Posted by: Fishgrease
at August 19, 2004 05:18 PM
Hiya Anne!
How goes it there?
What is Journeys With George about?
Only a few days for you there in San Diego before San Diego station KPOP AM goes to 'Progressive Talk' format as a mostly AAR affiliate. I bet you are stoked for Monday :)
Halleluah! ;)
Posted by: Great American Patriot at August 19, 2004 05:21 PM
wasn't just a patriarchy.
It was misogynistic.
Same difference. I wish the site you posted didn't have the background pattern and light type because I could then read it, but I think I already knew most of what it says anyway. Good bibliography list.
Posted by: cathy in seattle at August 19, 2004 05:21 PM
7. The Mayans of Mexico were master mathematicians and time worshippers. They understood time and space more accurately than us. They knew that Planet Earth would come into synchronisation with the Universe by 2012 AD.
8. By 2012 we will have reached a total collapse of time as we know it and an entry of humanity into post history.
9. Part of the Mayan prophecy was the Harmonic Convergence Prophecy which said the Age of Materialism must end at this time and we must return to Nature to save ourselves and the planet, our biosphere.
10. Under the Gregorian calendar we are living a fundamental dog matic "error in time"
11. Use of the calendar in everyday life will help heal Planet Earth, break the vicious link
between time and money and bring oneness and understanding to humanity.
12. The Mayan prophecy says that we will soon not need money and about the same time we will have universal telepathy.
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 19, 2004 05:23 PM
12. The Mayan prophecy says that we will soon not need money and about the same time we will have universal telepathy.
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 19, 2004 05:24 PM
GAP,
~~~ He added that the Sadr movement was ready to take part in the political process "if it is honest.” ~~~
That was said almost 2 days ago.
Everyone is recycling yesterday's news.
Waiting on today's.
Posted by: Fishgrease
at August 19, 2004 05:24 PM
universal telepathy!
umm...
could you all
hold it down?
'm tryin to thimk!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 19, 2004 05:26 PM
well I got todays news only it's already been posted to the blog already too...
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 05:26 PM
Who decided to book Franklin Foer for tomorrow's show? I know he's promoting his book (seven years in the making) but does anyone pay attention to what he writes?
Did anyone else catch his slam piece on John Dean's Worse Than Watergate in the New York Times Book Review? The thurst of which was Dean should write geared towards the undecided/swing voter.
It included such "wonderful slams" as this:
"But instead of trying to persuade the undecided, Dean barrages Bush with cheap shots, recalling the angry rhetorical flourishes that boosted Al Franken's and Molly Ivins's sales."
Get that? In a single sentence, he not only slams Dean's book, he manages to get off cheap shots at Molly Ivin's and Al Franken's?
(And apparently, working seven years on his soccer book didn't allow him enough time to research his slams or he'd know the two bestsellers of Molly's when his piece were published were co-written by Lou Dubose.)
Gee, can we get Jonah Goldberg on the show next?
The only question Franklin Foer can answer for me is: did he come up with the Molly slam on his own or was it encouraged by the Times (since Nicky K misread her Progressive column, the Times has managed to slime Ivins three times in book reviews of books she didn't write)?
Posted by Jake at August 18, 2004 10:15 PM
-------------
Remember that book review and am still angry about it. Think it's a good point being made in this post.
Posted by: Jimmy at August 19, 2004 05:27 PM
Frankly I do not want to know what goes on in some peoples heads any more than I want to know what goes on in their bathrooms.
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 05:27 PM
Fish that was in Todays Khajeel Times
There is within the last few hours news there too. New info in Aljazeera too.
That Sand Surfers exotic sport blurb & photo there was cool. What a wild sport!
Posted by: Great American Patriot at August 19, 2004 05:31 PM
eya Gpr!
afternoon!
whats up with u?
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 19, 2004 05:34 PM
GAP thanks for that UAE source of news at
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/index00.asp
Fishgrease that is recent. Read the story.
I hadn't heard of a good arab source besides aljazeera so now I have another.
Posted by: jerrybarnes at August 19, 2004 05:37 PM
IS FISHGREASE ON AL SADR'S SIDE?
Fuck no!
He's probably a scumbag, although much less of a scumbag than Allawi's government is making him out to be... and indeed MUCH less of a scumbag than Allawi himself. I certainly don't like Al Sadr's ideas of a nation ruled outwardly by Shiite clerics and with strict Islamic law. For the real scoop on Al Sadr uninfected by Allawi or Bush or CNN, go to Juan Cole's site.
I'm sticking up for Al Sadr because he is going to help us beat Bush. I'm thinking that the sacking of Al Sadr will begin a revolution against Allawi AND Bush. I'm pretty sure this is what Sistani is thinking too. Get rid of a scumbag AND turn the entire Shiite faith against Allawi? BONUS!
I find it amazing that the military nature of our controls on Allawi completely block the obvious future from their strategic view. Military dogma does not allow for the potential power of martyrs or shrines. Military dogma says "Fuck that. Killum!"
I'm SO looking forward to Allawi and Bush and Rumsfeld and Rice making this blunder! And if we can do it without getting American troops killed... again... BONUS!
Revolución!!!!
Posted by: Fishgrease
at August 19, 2004 05:39 PM
Listened to that soundbyte of Bush's speach on education, talking about how important it is to turn out students proficient in math and science.
Isn't that just code for de-emphasizing the humanities in education. As in, "Let's churn out more technically proficient drones with no appreciation for art or capacity for intelligent discourse?"
And, perhaps most importantly, no understanding of history.
What does Bush want, a nation of Rumsfeldian robots with zero imagination, the kind of people who taunt those who actually care when museums are looted and millennia-old relics are wantonly destroyed?
That's, of course, a rhetorical question; I'm sure that's EXACTLY what he wants...
Posted by: Chris Burdick at August 19, 2004 05:40 PM
While you're waiting for news...
"Why I won't Apologize for Calling Bush a Fascist"
"If you haven't read Fascism Anyone? by Laurence W. Britt, follow that link and do it now. You need to know this information in this election. I'm going to take the 14 points delineated by Britt and put them in perspective here. Remember, these are his points. The commentary is mine."
http://the-goddess.org/blog/2004/08/yes-it-canwhy-i-wont-apologize-for.html
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 05:41 PM
GAP,
Yes.. the story is new or "newer" and I didn't make myself clear that I thought it important. It is.
But it contains quotes from 2 days ago as filler. A new story with old quotes is what?
Its CNN... that's what it is.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 19, 2004 05:41 PM
Sorry, I meant "speech". See, his educational policies are even dumbing ME down!
Posted by: Chris Burdick at August 19, 2004 05:42 PM
Not much Jimmy, how are you?
no healing of injuries? hehe
Just heard on the news Carly Patterson just won the Women's All Around Gold Medal in Gymnastic's!
Amazing! Both a Men's & Women's Olympic Champions in All Around Gymnastic's :-))
By the way, can you burn some of your best Dead & bluegrass recordings onto CD?
I was thinking of sending you a phone card or something else in exchange?
Posted by: Great American Patriot at August 19, 2004 05:43 PM
"Meme vaccines and meme engines
Advertising imagery is the ultimate stealth virus. It has long been post- or pre- rational, operating by subconscious association, by veiled promise and threat, by mobilizing our longings and our dreamworld. Rational critique can't find a handle by which to challenge such a worldview. Adbusters magazine, the Vancouver-based anti-commercial glossy well known for its sly re-workings of corporate logos and ad campaigns, understands that culture jamming can stick where rational discourse slides off. In one of their classic "subvertisements" Adbusters took a Kool cigarettes logo, kept the exact color and typeface but changed the "K" to "F" and then placed it above a glossy shot of a young man half-coyly, half cluelessly smoking a cigarette. Such a pastiched image operates much like a "meme vaccine," interrupting our consumer trance and redirecting our attention. Culture jamming fights virus with virus. Over the last decade it has itself become a virulent meme, spreading far and wide and encompassing a myriad of new sub-cultural forms. "
http://guerrillanews.com/truth_virus/
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 19, 2004 05:47 PM
From todays news dissector blog:
As for why the WMD issue was botched so badly (if it was) we have ex-Arms inspector and Administration water boy now blaming the National Security Council under Ms. C. Rice. According to the Times, he is now speaking with a "caustic"tongue:
"Where was the NSC?" Kay asked, suggesting that the president had come to depend too heavily on information supplied by Condoleeza Rice, Bush's national security adviser.
"Every president who has been successful, at least that I know of, in the history of this republic has developed both informal and formal means of getting checks on whether people who tell him things are in fact telling him the whole truth," Kay told the Senate intelligence committee at a hearing called to discuss the findings of the Sept. 11 commission.
"I think this is particularly crucial and difficult to do in the intelligence area. The recent history has been a reliance on the NSC system to do it. I quite frankly think that has not served this president very well."
Congrats to David Kay for speaking out and revealing the lies and coverup of the bush synchophants
Posted by: Great American Patriot at August 19, 2004 05:47 PM
Hail, Hail the gangs all here....and the 7 yr old left. Harah!!!!
And here's some news!!!
Senators Ask Where $8.8 Bln in Iraq Funds Went
2 hours, 34 minutes ago Add Politics to My Yahoo!
By Sue Pleming
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - At least $8.8 billion in Iraqi funds that was given to Iraqi ministries by the former U.S.-led authority there cannot be accounted for, according to a draft U.S. audit set for release soon.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=615&e=3&u=/nm/20040819/pl_nm/iraq_funds_dc
Posted by: toni d at August 19, 2004 05:48 PM
~~~ Fishgrease that is recent. Read the story. ~~~
You mean this one?
Sadr aide rejects Iraq government’s demands to end crisis
(Reuters) 19 August 2004
It contains none of the quotes GAP gave. Its a very small story... but yes... its interesting.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 19, 2004 05:49 PM
More important info from news dissector blog:
Anti-war.com is carrying an article that says that the attack on Najav was undertaken by new US marine commanders without authorization - a kind of rouge operation:
Acting without the approval of the Pentagon or senior Iraqi officials, the Marine officers said in recent interviews, they turned a firefight with Mr. Sadr's forces on Thursday, Aug. 5, into a eight-day pitched battle, one fought out in deadly skirmishes in an ancient cemetery that brought them within rifle shot of the Imam Ali Mosque, Shiite Islam's holiest shrine. Eventually, fresh Army units arrived from Baghdad and took over Marine positions near the mosque, but by then the politics of war had taken over and the American force had lost the opportunity to storm Mr. Sadr's fighters around the mosque.
Fighting here continues, and what the Marines had hoped would be a quick, decisive action has bogged down into a grinding battle that appears to have strengthened the hand of Mr. Sadr, whose stature rises each time he survives a confrontation with the American military. It may have weakened the credibility of the interim Iraqi government of Prime Minister Ayad Allawi, showing him, many Iraqis say, to be alternately rash and indecisive, as well as ultimately beholden to American overrule on crucial military and political matters. American intelligence officials monitoring Mr. Sadr said he then summoned reinforcements from around the country, and Ambassador John D. Negroponte, the top American official in Iraq, "decided to pursue the case," one official said. One result was a domino effect, with the fighting in Najaf soon replicated in more than half a dozen cities and towns across southern Iraq that are Mahdi Army strongholds, including the Baghdad slum of Sadr City.
Nevertheless CNN is reporting the fighting will go on despite all of this: "Iraqi forces are prepared to raid a Najaf mosque where Shiite Muslim militiamen are holed up, and the "rebellion" won't be allowed to continue, Iraqi officials said Wednesday.”
Also this: "Some 450 delegates at a key national conference accused the main political parties of hijacking a scheduled vote for
Posted by: Great American Patriot at August 19, 2004 05:50 PM
eya gapper!
o pish tush!
jus send me yer address again!
how bout my phish an dead folder?
better yet send me a 20 gig hard drive!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 19, 2004 05:52 PM
http://www.journeyswithgeorge.com/
Posted by: Miss Anne Thropic at August 19, 2004 05:11 PM
----
thanks, Miss Anne,
worth logging in for :)
Was wondering for months when a sympathetic view of the Prez would turn itself into film and
Here It Is ... George oozing charm and good will. Hiding his non-alcoholic beer? Which one? Sharps?
V. cute ...
And Not from a Republican but
Thanks to ANOTHER DEMOCRAT filmmaker who is more than just a teensy bit in love with her subject it seems to me.
This is excellent news for the Prez. Mark my words. People will love it.
Posted by: bridge at August 19, 2004 05:53 PM
Now GAP.... THAT was excellent!
First time Negroponte has stuck his head out in any way for months!
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 19, 2004 05:53 PM
Halliburton Record War Profiteering:
"The oil services company Halliburton, largely through its subsidiary Kellogg, Brown & Root, has received more revenue from government contracts in the last year than from 1998 through 2002. In 2003, when the company had record revenue of $16.3 billion, Halliburton received contracts from the Department of Defense worth $4.3 billion, while in the previous five years it obtained less than $2.5 billion from the military, according to an analysis by the Center for Public Integrity."
http://www.publicintegrity.org/default.aspx
Posted by: Great American Patriot at August 19, 2004 05:54 PM
eya Toni d
how yer day goin?
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 19, 2004 05:55 PM
Hi Fish...even CNN's Wolf Blitzer mentioned Negroponte today. I know he's behind all this with Allawi.
Posted by: toni d at August 19, 2004 05:56 PM
Hi Jim. Better now. My 7year old neighbor girl just left awhile ago. She was on the computer with Barbie.com.
I was jonesing for the puter bad.
Posted by: toni d at August 19, 2004 05:58 PM
"Sacred Shrine in Najaf Damaged, Fighting Rages Outside"
NAJAF, Iraq (CNN) -- Interim Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi issued a "final call" Thursday for cleric Muqtada al-Sadr's forces to disarm and vacate the Imam Ali Mosque in Najaf, as sounds of fighting were heard outside the Shiite Muslim holy site.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/082004X.shtml
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 05:59 PM
Yep...
The Alzazeera story is very current.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/79C12B2E-F362-48D1-A39A-98A34B03946E.htm
We're at T-minus 4 hours or so.
What a blunder!
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 19, 2004 06:00 PM
Al-Sadr Tells Militia to Turn Over Shrine
AP - 22 minutes ago
Radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr ordered his fighters Thursday to hand control of a revered Najaf shrine to top Shiite religious authorities, hours after U.S. forces bombed militant positions and Iraq's prime minister made a "final call" for the cleric's militia to surrender. Full Coverage
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=1&u=/ap/20040819/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq
Posted by: toni d at August 19, 2004 06:01 PM
was on the computer with Barbie.com.
Posted by toni d at August 19, 2004 05:58 PM
Isn't Barbie a Republican?....Doesn't Raggady Anne have a web site?.....
Posted by: RWiley
at August 19, 2004 06:02 PM
"Mortar hits U.S. Baghdad embassy"
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - A mortar bomb has hit the roof of the U.S. embassy in Baghdad, slightly wounding two American employees, a U.S. embassy spokesman says.
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 06:02 PM
~~~ Hi Fish...even CNN's Wolf Blitzer mentioned Negroponte today. I know he's behind all this with Allawi. ~~~
HAHAHAHA!
So the Allawi police officials threatening the journalists wasn't just a coincidence!
Great!
Negroponte already lost them one country and he's a fixin to lose them another!
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 19, 2004 06:02 PM
ya i been patchin together
ol comps with linux
for de kiddoos
233 megahertz
and up is web frendly
for de kiddoos with a broad
band connect! i think of them
as begginner electric library cards.
i have a great kiddoos links list 5000+!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 19, 2004 06:03 PM
Nobody,
~~~ "Mortar hits U.S. Baghdad embassy" ~~~
Revolución!!!!
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 19, 2004 06:04 PM
Opposition leader Peres calls for early poll after Sharon Likud defeat
1 hour, 4 minutes ago
Israel's Labour opposition chief Shimon Peres called for early elections following a stinging rebuff delivered to the prime minister by his own Likud party over his Gaza strip pullout plan.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1504&ncid=1504&e=5&u=/afp/20040819/ts_afp/israel_politics_vote_040819205836
Posted by: tonid at August 19, 2004 06:04 PM
Journeys With George was shot mostly by Democratic Congress leader Nancy Pelosi's daughter on a handheld little DV camcorder during the 2000 campaign.
>eya gapper!
o pish tush!
jus send me yer address again!
how bout my phish an dead folder?
better yet send me a 20 gig hard drive!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 19, 2004 05:52 PM
Recent PBS Live Concert Special was good but not that interested in Phish.
Are your files standard CD Aiff format or MP3?
I'll get in touch this weekend Jimmy.
Posted by: Great American Patriot at August 19, 2004 06:06 PM
Jim...
Great kids tools! You a good man!
I'm running some of Linux boxes on Celeron 400s for internet-only stuff at work. Flawless!
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 19, 2004 06:06 PM
Fish, last night and early this morning ther was a news drought. Things are apoppin now!!!!!
Posted by: tonid
at August 19, 2004 06:07 PM
Toni,
~~~ Things are apoppin now!!!!! ~~~
We're a few hours away from a huge Bush blunder!
Need Darlene here to do a happy dance!
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 19, 2004 06:08 PM
..........Dude, Norman SCHWARZKOPF isn't going to vote for Bush!!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/8/19/113646/385
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 06:09 PM
Saboteurs Set Fire to Iraqi South Oil Co. Basra HQ
2 hours, 59 minutes ago Add Top Stories - Reuters to My Yahoo!
BASRA, Iraq (Reuters) - Saboteurs set the headquarters of Iraq (news - web sites)'s South Oil Company in the city of Basra on fire Thursday, officials and witnesses said.
"It was not an accident. The fire is huge," said an official of the state-owned company, who declined to be identified.
Posted by: tonid
at August 19, 2004 06:10 PM
more indications of a tanking Bush economy.....
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBDPR5F3YD.html
Posted by: RWiley
at August 19, 2004 06:11 PM
August Mid-Atlantic Factory Output Slows
Thu Aug 19,12:49 PM ET Add Business - Reuters to My Yahoo!
By Pedro Nicolaci da Costa
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Output at U.S. Mid-Atlantic factories slowed in August as new orders dropped sharply, suggesting recent weakness in the economy is likely to persist into coming months.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=578&e=14&u=/nm/20040819/bs_nm/economy_dc
Posted by: tonid
at August 19, 2004 06:12 PM
That last one is as promised...
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 06:13 PM
Aging Barbie
Finally a Barbie I can relate to! At long last, here are some NEW Barbie dolls to coincide with her and OUR aging gracefully. These are a bit more realistic...
1. Bifocals Barbie - Comes with her own set of blended-lens fashion frames in six wild colors (half-frames too!), neck chain and large-print editions of Vogue and Martha Stewart Living.
2. Hot Flash Barbie - Press Barbie's bellybutton and watch her face turn beet red while tiny drops of perspiration appear on her forehead. Comes with hand-held fan and tiny tissues.
3. Facial Hair Barbie - As Barbie's hormone levels shift, see her whiskers grow. Available with teeny tweezers and magnifying mirror.
4. Flabby Arms Barbie - Hide Barbie's droopy triceps with these new, roomier-sleeved gowns. Good news on the tummy front, too - moomoos with tummy-support panels are included.
5. Bunion Barbie - Years of disco dancing in stiletto heels have definitely taken their toll on Barbie's dainty arched feet. Soothe her sores with the pumice stone and plasters, then slip on soft terry mules.
6. No-More-Wrinkles Barbie - Erase those pesky crow's feet and lip lines wiith a tube of Skin Sparkle Spackle, from Barbie's own line of exclusive age-blasting cosmetics.
7. Soccer Mom Barbie - All that experience as a cheer-leader is really paying off as Barbie dusts off her old high school megaphone to root for Babs and Ken, Jr. Comes with minivan in robin-egg blue or white, and cooler filled with doughnut holes and fruit punch.
8. Mid-life Crisis Barbie - It's time to ditch Ken. Barbie needs a change, and Alonzo (her personal trainer) is just what the doctor ordered... along with Prozac. They're hopping in her new red Miata and heading for the Napa Valley to open a B&B. Includes a real tape of "Breaking Is Hard to Do."
9. Divorced Barbie - Sells for $199.99. Comes with Ken's house, Ken's car, and Ken's boat.
10. Recovery Barbie - Too many parties have finally caught up with the ultimate party girl. Now she does Twelve Steps instead of dance steps. Clean and sober, she's going to meetings religiously. Comes with a little copy of The Big Book, coffee cup and pack of smokes.
<Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 19, 2004 06:13 PM
Look at this....flip flop!!!
U.S. to Add Three Units in Germany Amid Troop Exit
Thu Aug 19, 1:27 PM ET Add Top Stories - Reuters to My Yahoo!
STUTTGART, Germany (Reuters) - The United States will station three new brigades in Germany at the same time as it withdraws about 30,000 troops from the country, a top U.S. general said on Thursday. General Charles Wald, deputy commander of United States European Command, told a news conference America planned to station a Stryker armored vehicle brigade with 3,600 soldiers, a paratroop brigade and an expeditionary brigade in Germany.
President Bush (news - web sites) announced on Monday plans to bring home up to 70,000 troops from Europe and Asia within a decade in a major realignment aimed at recognizing post-Cold War realities and new extremist threats requiring more mobile forces
Posted by: tonid
at August 19, 2004 06:14 PM
"Iraqi soccer players angered by Bush campaign ads featuring team "
"Iraq as a team does not want Mr. Bush to use us for the presidential campaign," Sadir told SI.com through a translator, speaking calmly and directly. "He can find another way to advertise himself."
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/olympics/2004/writers/08/19/iraq/index.html
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 06:15 PM
** IMPORTANT THING TO DO FOR MAJORITY REPORTERS & AAR LISTENERS **
This is some great advice from a news dissector blog reader about forwarding uncovered stories that Are Not in the mainstream media:
I.W.M. Rieger writes from Portland, ME: "None of my friends and family heard a scratch about Allawi's personal handling of executions, and his reinstatement of Iraq's secret police. Thanks to major news network handling of real stories, the vast majority of our citizens will never hear about how he's sending police to kill journalists. I think we're all tired of their blinders and talent for creating muddled, hand-me-down stories. If they really are only whores for ratings, and public opinion, than let's give them what they want. Let's make it absurdly easy for them and hand-feed them the real headlines. I don't know if anyone else has had the idea but here it is. News Dissector(gap note: AAR/MRR ones too!) readers should, en masse, copy the links of the news stories you report on (and not already found in headline news), and immediately connect to the major mainstream news pages of NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, PBS, MSNBC, CNBC, Fox News. Go to the news-tips or contact us page, paste the link, and ask them to include the story you're sending them. Ask them why it's not already posted. If enough of us do this, on a consistent basis, and to multiple, major sources, the headlines will start to change. Let's help the news-recyclers feed on toothier fare, and beat big media at it's own game."
Anyone got the contact email list for the news organizations above?
Posted by: Great American Patriot at August 19, 2004 06:16 PM
Kerry 301 Bush 213
http://www.electoral-vote.com/
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 06:16 PM
for the FBI agents who participate in this blog......
Syracuse , NY local news tonight reported that residents of Onondaga County, NY were visited by FBI and interviewed about their plans to visit NYC during the Republican convention........
Posted by: RWiley
at August 19, 2004 06:17 PM
11. Post-Menopausal Barbie - This Barbie wets her pants when she sneezes or laughs, forgets where she puts things, and cries a lot. She is sick and tired of Ken sitting on the couch watching the tube, clicking through the channels. Comes with Depends and Kleenex. As a bonus this year, the book "Getting In Touch with Your Inner Self" is included.
http://www.maineiac.com/barbie/aging_barbie.htm
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 19, 2004 06:17 PM
Where the hell is Sam?
Sam... we want Juan Cole once a week.
Dr. Cole told me via email that he's be happy to do it. He was VERY impressed with both you and Janeane this last time round.
You're breaking new ground here. Lets keep it up!
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 19, 2004 06:18 PM
( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( (you are losing interest in blogging) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) )
( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( (go back to your television) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) )
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Posted by: Presidential Mind control Center at August 19, 2004 06:18 PM
Ick toni...that and they're moving bases CLOSER to Russia...they're shouldna choked up on the oil...now they're gonna get it...
BTW BIG effin mistake...russian planes can still handle ours and I mean handle
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 06:18 PM
Here's trouble a-brewing!!!!!!
Poll: Voters Eyeing National Security
Thu Aug 19, 4:34 AM ET Add U.S. Government - AP to My Yahoo!
By WILL LESTER, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - Concern about national security is dominating public attention in the final months of the presidential campaign because of continuing fears of terrorism and unhappiness about the war in Iraq (news - web sites), according to a poll released Wednesday.
"For the first time since the Vietnam era, national security issues are looming larger than economic issues in an election year," said Andrew Kohut, director of the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press
Posted by: tonid
at August 19, 2004 06:19 PM
Now this IS breaking!
Although not confirmed....
Report: Zarqawi captured on Syrian-Iraq border
Reports in Kuwait on Friday said a man assumed to be Al Qaeda leader in Iraq, Abu Musab Zarqawi has been captured near the Syrian border.
http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/news_service/middle_east_full_story.asp?service_id=2955
Wasn't there a report here today... from War Doggy... that Zarqawi was in Iran?
HAHAHAHAHA!
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 19, 2004 06:23 PM
WTF is wrong with these guys...a god damned 10 year old with a video game would handle their military better than this
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 06:23 PM
Nobody!!!!
HAHAHAHAHA!
Greatness!
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 19, 2004 06:24 PM
Condi"sleeza" speaks....bleah!!!
Rice Counsels Patience During Iraq War
2 hours, 28 minutes ago Add White House - AP to My Yahoo!
By BARRY SCHWEID, AP Diplomatic Writer
WASHINGTON - Defending President Bush (news - web sites)'s foreign policies, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites) counseled Americans to be "less critical of every twist and turn" in Iraq (news - web sites).
"We need to be more patient with people who are making those early steps" toward a working multiethnic democracy, Rice said Thursday as U.S. troops fought a bloody battle with insurgents in the slums of Baghdad and Iraqi forces searched for ways to subdue insurgent militias in Najaf.
Posted by: tonid
at August 19, 2004 06:25 PM
zarqawi is a straw man
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 06:26 PM
the little boy and the old man
Said the little boy, "Sometimes I drop my spoon."
Said the little old man, "I do that too."
The little boy whispered, "I wet my pants."
"I do that too," laughed the little old man.
Said the little boy, "I often cry."
The old man nodded, "So do I."
"But worse of all," said the boy, "it seems
Grownups don't pay attention to me."
And he felt the warmth of a wrinkled old hand.
"I know what you mean," said the little old man.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 06:26 PM
Possible Najaf Mosque Attack Carries Risk
18 minutes ago
By MARIAM FAM, Associated Press Writer
BAGHDAD, Iraq - The Imam Ali Shrine compound in Najaf — an Islamic art landmark ornamented with elegant calligraphy and religious patterns — reputedly holds priceless ancient manuscripts and houses the silver-covered tomb of the Shiite saint Ali. While Iraqi forces might easily overpower the Shiite insurgents hiding inside, any raid there carries considerable risk.
A botched job that damages the shrine could enrage Iraqis and Muslims worldwide, fuel resentment of the occupation and interim government and possibly strengthen local support for rebel cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, to whom the insurgent militia is loyal.
The shrine — named after Imam Ali bin Abi Talib, the cousin and son-in-law of Islam's prophet Muhammad — is one of the most sacred sites for Shiite Muslims. For centuries, the world's 120 million Shiites have revered it as a place of pilgrimage.
Posted by: tonid
at August 19, 2004 06:27 PM
~~~ zarqawi is a straw man ~~~
Exactly...
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 19, 2004 06:28 PM
from toms dispatch
The imperfect media storm or George Bush and the Temple of Doom
Exerpt:
"And speaking of connections poorly (or not at all) made, rises in oil prices that would once have passed for nightmare energy scenarios have, like so many Creatures from the Black Lagoon, been swimming to the surface of the business pages and generally stopping there. On the network news, the latest oil price rises tend to be given later in the half-hour in the dry, scorecard manner of the Dow Jones figures. Last week the price of a barrel of crude surged over $46 a barrel. Maybe soon we'll hit a previously unimaginable $50 a barrel, despite Saudi pumping promises, but no point in sounding apocalyptic or, say, making a few connections between the ongoing turmoil in the Middle East, American energy use, the Bush administration, the perfect storm in Florida, the sales of SUVS, lowered fuel efficiency standards, and our poor, fragile planet. After all, why be globally apocalyptic when being south-Florida apocalyptic will more than do the trick. (Oh, and in case no one other than you and me have noticed, there's been a stock market slide in recent weeks.) You could read your morning paper every day and catch your evening news (and check out NPR in the bargain) and still easily miss many of the signs of crisis that beset us like so many potential Charley's."
http://www.tomdispatch.com/index.mhtml?pid=1682
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 19, 2004 06:28 PM
Did I ever mention that I think that Alan Dershowitz is a dick?
"Amend International Law To Allow Preemptive Strike on Iran"
"Intelligence reports about Iran's capacity to produce nuclear weapons aimed at Israel are becoming ominous."
http://forward.com/main/article.php?ref=dershowitz20040819155
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 06:30 PM
( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( (everything is fine) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) )
( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( (look, over there!) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) )
( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( (being well-informed is uncool) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) )
Posted by: Presidential Mind control Center at August 19, 2004 06:31 PM
one thousand reasons to vote against George bush....
http://www.thousandreasons.org/listB.html
Posted by: RWiley
at August 19, 2004 06:31 PM
hello blog bros and sis's! :)
ima hope evryone is do well. is anyone see frank?
im hope im get more blog time now that big bosses game is over. maybe he isnt pay attenshun much after he is have him fun.
Posted by: muck4doo at August 19, 2004 06:31 PM
Records Counter a Critic of Kerry
Fellow Skipper's Citation Refers To Enemy Fire
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A13267-2004Aug18?language=printer
So is anyone we surprised?
But the average citizen doesn't care about the details, doesn't read the Washington Post et al.
And the damage by the Swiftboat Vets Who Don't Speak The Truth has been done - and Kerry has only himself to blame.
Taking the high road? Give me a break.
Remember Bill in 92? Never seen so much guts and self-confidence in my life. No wonder people voted him into office despite Perot's 20%.
Kerry, go watch "The War Room!"
(Forgive me, when I am temporarily overcome by nostalgia ... )
The moment Kerry was slimed re his military record he should have come out and blown them all out of the water. It should have been a piece of cake IMO. And boy, wouldn't it have impressed the media. Everything comes down to the messenger.
--
Re the moveon terrible ads, Kerry's lame response which followed the one by schizoid McCain, I can only agree with the Rude Pundit: They "**** **** * **** ** ****."
Posted by: bridge at August 19, 2004 06:31 PM
acshualy im shuld have say it in over for me. itn still going but not with me anymore. he is watch to much tv! he is make us play survivor at work and ima get vote off today. theren 2 peples left now.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 06:33 PM
Tonid,
They don't even have to damage the shrine to inflame Muslims worldwide. Al Sadr went there for sanctuary... accepted for centuries.
Allawi will be going in for violence. He shames the shrine.... which is worse than damaging it!
Everyone is focusing on the shrine as a brick and mortar object. It is so much more than that. Any attack on the shrine, even if it doesn't dislodge a single stone, is a huge blunder.
Just watch.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 19, 2004 06:33 PM
For Sunshine Jim:
8. The Blue Planet
U.S. News & World Report - Wed Aug 18, 6:34 PM ET
Right at this moment, some 930 million miles away, a sophisticated robot loaded with scientific gear is laying bare the mysteries of the sixth planet. With stunning photos of Saturn, its rings, and its moons, the Cassini-Huygens probe is captivating scientists and the public with images of an alien and distant world. The exploration of space, whether by astronauts, robotic probes, or sophisticated telescopes, surely represents the height of technological achievement. ...
Sent: 10 times
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=926&e=8&u=/usnews/theblueplanet
Posted by: tonid
at August 19, 2004 06:33 PM
So muck... you out of a job?
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 19, 2004 06:35 PM
I bet this takes Fishgrease under 60 seconds to respond to...
"Business India > British Gas keen to supply Iran gas to India: "
"British gas major BG Group has shelved plans to set up a liquefied natural gas (LNG) terminal at Pipavav in Gujarat and is instead exploring option of supply gas to India from Iran."
http://www.newkerala.com/news-daily/news/features.php?action=fullnews&id=8647
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 06:36 PM
>Possible Najaf Mosque Attack Carries Risk>
It's interesting to note historically at the end of World War Two that when the recommendations for targets for the first atomic bomb for Japan that the military wanted the religious shrine city of Kyoto as their #1 target. They said that would "hit them where they would feel it the most"
The Secretary of War Henry Stinson disagreed strongly with that target and President Harry Truman agreed.
Posted by: Great American Patriot at August 19, 2004 06:36 PM
For Mucky:
Did you see this yet Muck?
Bear Passes Out After Only 36 Beers
Thu Aug 19, 8:23 AM ET Add Oddly Enough - Reuters to My Yahoo!
SEATTLE (Reuters) - A black bear was found passed out at a campground in Washington state recently after guzzling down three dozen cans of a local beer, a campground worker said on Wednesday.
"We noticed a bear sleeping on the common lawn and wondered what was going on until we discovered that there were a lot of beer cans lying around," said Lisa Broxson, a worker at the Baker Lake Resort, 80 miles northeast of Seattle.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&ncid=757&e=4&u=/nm/20040819/od_nm/odd_bear_dc
Posted by: tonid
at August 19, 2004 06:36 PM
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Posted by: Residential Mind control Center at August 19, 2004 06:37 PM
no. ima still employ but theren rumors of downsize at my work. my boss was literaly make us do survivor at work. we are take imunity challenges and evrything. im finish 3rd. bronze in ok.
ima hope downsize not come my way but at leastn i can thank chainey for the tax cut ima see on unemployment check if that is happen. :)
Posted by: muck4doo at August 19, 2004 06:38 PM
New Rules for 'Soft Money' Groups in 2006
21 minutes ago Add U.S. Government - AP to My Yahoo!
By SHARON THEIMER
WASHINGTON - Non-party groups spending millions of dollars in unlimited donations on ads and get-out-the-vote drives in this year's presidential race will face some new ground rules starting with the 2006 election.
The Federal Election Commission (news - web sites) voted 4-2 Thursday to require groups that raise more than $1,000 by telling donors the money will be used to support the election or defeat of a particular presidential or congressional candidate to accept only limited donations from individuals and to divulge the contributions and spending to the FEC.
Posted by: tonid
at August 19, 2004 06:38 PM
~~~ Condoleezza Rice counseled Americans to be "less critical of every twist and turn" ~~~
GOD that's funny!
She's counseling Americans to be less critical of Bush. Are they getting desperate or what?
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 19, 2004 06:39 PM
bears are not like bush toni. but ima remeber when they are use to prefer hamms. :)
Posted by: muck4doo at August 19, 2004 06:39 PM
posted by GAP:
Journeys With George was shot mostly by Democratic Congress leader Nancy Pelosi's daughter on a handheld little DV camcorder during the 2000 campaign.
--
So Ms Pelosi will get an Emmy,
lovely frat party in the White House
Rose garden, anyone?
Posted by: bridge at August 19, 2004 06:40 PM
Nobody!
You're right... but I don't know how to respond!
I've trouble figuring out exactly what it means besides Blair losing support.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 19, 2004 06:42 PM
hey hypnodude...the getting laid thing?...we're over 40 and can afford viagra...tough luck
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 06:42 PM
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Posted by: Presidential Mind control Center at August 19, 2004 06:42 PM
~~~ don't question authority ~~~
Right now we're questioning sanity!
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 19, 2004 06:44 PM
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Posted by: Presidential Mind control Center at August 19, 2004 06:45 PM
Fishy...they're betting on the contract already...obviously word is filtering that it's a go...I don't think bush is even gonna try congress approval...which means...instant fucking civil war.
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 06:45 PM
bears are not like bush toni. but ima remeber when they are use to prefer hamms. :)
Posted by muck4doo at August 19, 2004 06:39 PM
most likely another family value Christian neocon drinking Bush beer......
Posted by: RWiley
at August 19, 2004 06:45 PM
Hell hypnodude I'm even critical of my own penis...I don't think I can be more critical
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 06:47 PM
"""Dead zones. In fact, many scientists fear that human activity, from overfishing to global warming and pollution, are irrevocably changing the world's oceans just as we're finally starting to understand them. Large fish like tuna, swordfish, and sharks have been hunted to less than 10 percent of their former numbers, and vast areas of the coastal waters where rivers dump municipal and agricultural runoff into the seas have become "dead zones," where nothing but bacteria can grow. According to a 2000 report, up to a quarter of all coral reefs--hit by a combination of man-made plagues--may have already been wiped out, and researchers fear that unless the ecosystems are protected from fishing and pollution, virtually all the rest could follow. In the three decades that he's been studying the oceans, says Scripps Institution of Oceanography marine biologist Jeremy Jackson, "every ecosystem I've studied has changed radically."
If life in the seas is changing, so too is the watery matrix that sustains it. Up here in the air, we haven't experienced much global warming yet--just 1 degree on average over the past 100 years. But water holds heat more efficiently than air, and the surface temperatures in the tropical Northern Hemisphere have been increasing at 10 times that rate since 1984. The impacts are everywhere, from bleached coral reefs in the tropics to the rapid disappearance of the Arctic Ocean's permanent ice cover, a change that threatens polar bears and the unique sea ice ecosystem that sustains them.
The major cause of global warming--increased levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere--is also more apparent in the oceans. Reporting on 10 years of oceanographic work in Science in July, an international team of scientists analyzed more than 70,000 water samples taken during the 1990s, finding that a full 48 percent of carbon dioxide humans pumped into the atmosphere between 1800 and 1994 was absorbed by seawater. The ocean, it turns out, has acted like a vast sponge, soaking up carbon dioxide and freeing us from paying the full price of our industrial activities in warming. But there is a cost, as the extra carbon dioxide in the water nudges the pH balance of the oceans toward the acid e
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 19, 2004 06:47 PM
Najaf Clashes Persist, Iraqis Threaten Cleric
August 19, 2004
By David Holley and Edmund Sanders, Times Staff Writers
Late today, one of Sadr's top aides told Al Jazeera, the Arabic satellite television network, that the cleric instructed his militia to transfer control of the shrine to representatives of Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani, a moderate Shiite cleric considered Iraq's most influential religious leader. (Sistani is still recupertaing in Britain after undergoing heart surgery there.) Sadr previously has made a similar proposal, but the religious officials turned down the offer.
The exchange came as a new round of violence was reported today in Najaf. A police station reportedly was pounded with mortar rounds, killing seven police officers and injuring 31 others. A U.S. warplane also fired missiles at a hotel where members of Sadr's armed supporters were believed to be firing, according to the Associated Press.
Both U.S. and Iraqi officials on Wednesday said they were leery that Sadr, a shrewd tactician with a history of accepting and reneging on such agreements, merely wanted to buy time to regroup and reinforce his fighters.
Posted by: tonid
at August 19, 2004 06:47 PM
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Posted by: Presidential Mind control Center at August 19, 2004 06:47 PM
Oh well nuclear winter will solve the global warming thing at least...and rent goes WAY down
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 06:48 PM
Nobody,
~~~ Fishy...they're betting on the contract already...obviously word is filtering that it's a go...I don't think bush is even gonna try congress approval...which means...instant fucking civil war ~~~
Forgive my being dense... but that's Iran. Oh... okay... you think that Bush and Blair have already signed on to invading Iran....
More likely would be that BP, being perhaps the largest multinational... can do business with Iran whithout such an invasion. BP has always had operations in Iran. That's my take.
Posted by: Fishgrease at August 19, 2004 06:49 PM
http://www.bushblackmagic.com/
http://www.bushblackmagic.com/what.htm
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 06:50 PM
Howdy folks ... just home for a little lunch ... turned on Randy ... holy shit is she irritating!
She has a caller ask "why would Kerry vote for the authority?" she totally missed the point ... god! its like nails on a chaulkboard!
Here's an analogy:
A guy in a bar asked you for a beer, you give it to him ... and the guy smashes the bottle on your head.
Knowing what you know what you know now ... if you had it to do over ... would you still give the guy the beer?
If you answer yes to this question you are either:
a) a masochist
b) an idiot
arrrrrgh!
Posted by: Nik E Poo at August 19, 2004 06:50 PM
The major cause of global warming--increased levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere--is also more apparent in the oceans. Reporting on 10 years of oceanographic work in Science in July, an international team of scientists analyzed more than 70,000 water samples taken during the 1990s, finding that a full 48 percent of carbon dioxide humans pumped into the atmosphere between 1800 and 1994 was absorbed by seawater. The ocean, it turns out, has acted like a vast sponge, soaking up carbon dioxide and freeing us from paying the full price of our industrial activities in warming. But there is a cost, as the extra carbon dioxide in the water nudges the pH balance of the oceans toward the acid end of the scale.""
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=926&e=8&u=/usnews/theblueplanet
Ya this was the conclusion i arrived at in 1983.
thanks Toni d that's a good oceanography article.
i miss just having a few environmental disasters
looming over my head.(nostalgic sigh!)
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at August 19, 2004 06:51 PM
Three more soldiers killed today in Iraq.
Posted by: tonid
at August 19, 2004 06:51 PM
I'm against ya already sheesh...
@_@ look into my eyes
@_@ mind control is dumb
@_@ There is no spoon
@_@ drink your cheerios straight from the bowl
@_@ whooohohohoooohoohooohoho
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 06:52 PM
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Posted by: Presidential Mind control Center at August 19, 2004 06:53 PM
Fish that is great news..!!!!!!!
If it holds..
Not much of a link..
But great new...!!!
Oh, from my post...
Western intelligence sources said the United States has quietly determined that Al Zarqawi has not been in Iraq for more than a month. The sources said Al Zarqawi left the Sunni Triangle for the Iran-Iraq border and has been moving in an arc from Iran in the east to Syria in the west as he continued to relay orders, plan operations and relay funding.
Posted by: War Dog
at August 19, 2004 06:55 PM
Fahrenheit FBI
August 9, 2004, 4:00 AM PT
By Declan McCullagh
A new U.S. government decision extending wiretapping regulations to the Internet raises far more questions than it answers.
The Federal Communications Commission voted 5-0 last week to prohibit businesses from offering broadband or Internet phone service unless they provide police with backdoors for wiretapping access. Formal regulations are expected by early next year.
But the commissioners didn't give the FBI and its allies at the Justice Department and the Drug Enforcement Administration everything they wanted.
In the police agencies' original request, submitted in March, they asked the FCC to force surveillance back doors into instant-messaging programs and voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) applications that do not use the traditional telephone network. The FCC politely declined, with Chairman Michael Powell saying those services were exempt from the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA) and that it was "unnecessary to identify future services and entities subject to" mandatory wiretapping requirements.
http://news.com.com/Fahrenheit+FBI/2010-7352_3-5300198.html
Posted by: tonid
at August 19, 2004 06:56 PM
Florida Could Suffer From Cuts in Disaster Aid
By Cory Reiss
Ledger Washington Bureau
reissc@nytimes.com
WASHINGTON -- Federal aid to hurricane-stricken Florida could mount to hundreds of millions of dollars, but Florida also could be the biggest loser yet from an effort by the Bush administration to redirect post-disaster spending.
President Bush tried to kill the Hazard Mitigation Grant Program, which provides an extra percentage of federal disaster aid to states and communities so they can prepare for future catastrophes. The result of that effort was that Congress in 2003 halved those grants from a maximum of 15 percent of disaster relief from the Federal Emergency Management Agency to 7.5 percent.
http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040818/NEWS/408180359/1039
Posted by: tonid
at August 19, 2004 06:58 PM
Military ops GO or NOGO on about a 6 hour basis. So...
Al Sadr orders his militia out of the shrine in order to hand it over to clerics representing Sistani.
Though unarmed, the US military and the Iraqi military mow them down. Sistani reps are similarly erased.
Could happen.
I seriously doubt this move by Al Sadr changes anything. Allawi has a chance to take Al Sadr out and I think he's going to do it.
Posted by: Fishgrease
at August 19, 2004 07:00 PM
( ( ( ( ( ( (three more soldiers in the Lord's arms) ) ) ) ) ) ) )
Posted by: Presidential Mind control Center at August 19, 2004 07:00 PM
war doggy what is your source for that, you don't give sources much on your rumors
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 07:00 PM
Hey guys....I'm tired. There's alot of news out there today and I haven't even hit the International areas yet.
Posted by: tonid
at August 19, 2004 07:00 PM
don't remember if this is posted already ;P
"Al-Sadr orders followers to quit Najaf shrine"
"U.S. bombs Fallujah targets; oil facilities hit by insurgents : Radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr ordered his fighters Thursday to hand control of a revered Najaf shrine to top Shiite religious authorities"
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5685031/
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 07:00 PM
NO FLIPFLOP HERE ...
Moving army bases around.
This is not news to Germany.
It has been know for at least a year AFAIK that bases are moving East.
And Poland is quite happy about it, too.
Makes a lot of sense, if you ask me.
"STUTTGART, Germany (Reuters) - The United States will station three new brigades in Germany at the same time as it withdraws about 30,000 troops from the country, a top U.S. general said on Thursday. General Charles Wald, deputy commander of United States European Command, told a news conference America planned to station a Stryker armored vehicle brigade with 3,600 soldiers, a paratroop brigade and an expeditionary brigade in Germany."
Posted by: bridge at August 19, 2004 07:01 PM
Toni I was beat before I started we need to hire out ;D
Posted by: Nobody
at August 19, 2004 07:02 PM
Doggy,
Of chief importance is the fact that Al Zarqawi is nothing... is in charge of nothing... and never has been.
Posted by: Fishgrease
at August 19, 2004 07:02 PM
muck4doo....this is for you. I know you will like this one.
Published Thursday, August 19, 2004
BARTOW
Temporary Shelter Provides Pet Food
Polk County residents can pick up pet food at the temporary animal shelter in Bartow at the Polk County Agriculture Center, 1702 Spessard Holland Parkway.
The county Animal Services Division will supply the food, which will be available as long as supplies last.
http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040819/NEWS/408190434
Posted by: tonid
at August 19, 2004 07:03 PM
Who is talking and source for what??
My last post..?
Copied from earlier today!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
ZARQAWI IS ALONG IRAQ-IRAN BORDER
BAGHDAD [MENL] -- Abu Mussib Al Zarqawi, regarding as the leading foreign insurgent in Iraq, was believed to be shuttling between Iran and Iraq.
Western intelligence sources said the United States has quietly determined that Al Zarqawi has not been in Iraq for more than a month. The sources said Al Zarqawi left the Sunni Triangle for the Iran-Iraq border and has been moving in an arc from Iran in the east to Syria in the west as he continued to relay orders, plan operations and relay funding.
"Much of the time he is in Iran, where he has been given safe haven," an intelligence source said. "The United States won't cross the Iranian border to get him."
The sources said Al Zarqawi was last seen in the Iraqi town of Dour in the area of Baghdad on June 18, where he held a meeting with a senior aide to deposed President Saddam Hussein, Izzat Ibrahim Douri. Douri, regarded as a major financier of the Sunni insurgency, was said to have provided the Al Qaida-aligned insurgent with a large amount of weapons and equipment. From Al Dour, Al Zarqawi traveled to Iran and was said to have been in Marivan in northern Iran through late July.
http://www.menewsline.com/stories/2004/august/08_03_1.html
Posted by: War Dog at August 19, 2004 02:28 PM
Posted by: War Dog
at August 19, 2004 07:05 PM
Wasn't he the guy chopping heads off in the video I watched??
And sending letters to Bin Laden?
And too many other things to name??
Or was that another Al Zarqawi?
If it is him someone made $25,000,000 when they turned him in!!
Zarqawi (maybe) and Sadr (maybe) both gone..
Would that make a headline!!
Posted by: War Dog
at August 19, 2004 07:09 PM
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Posted on Thu, Aug. 19, 2004
Patriot Act ineffective and needlessly tosses aside constitutional protections
TOM MAERTENS
In the climate of fear following the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, the Bush administration pushed the USA Patriot Act through Congress with virtually no debate and with no amendments permitted. Some provisions of the act are up for renewal shortly.
Public opinion polls show widespread support for the Patriot Act. The same polls show that few Americans know what is in the act or that it vastly increases the government's power over American citizens.
Under the Patriot Act, the federal government no longer has to show reasonable cause that the wiretap target is involved in criminal activity but only has to assert a national security connection. In that case, the judge cannot reject the request.
The act gives law enforcement agencies unparalleled power to obtain personal and financial records, medical histories, Internet browsing history, bookstore purchases and travel records. It also puts the CIA back in the business of collecting domestic intelligence.
Under the "sneak and peek" provisions of the Patriot Act, the government may conduct a covert search first and seek a regular warrant later. The Fifth Circuit Court in New Orleans recently decided that the Patriot Act allows police officers in Louisiana to conduct a brief search of homes or businesses without a search warrant. So much for the unreasonable search and seizure clause of the Fourth Amendment.
Posted by: at August 19, 2004 07:10 PM
****************new thread***********
Posted by: tonid
at August 19, 2004 07:12 PM
that is good news toni! :)
ima wish i was rich and donate food across em shelters but unfortunut born poor. :(
Posted by: muck4doo at August 19, 2004 07:15 PM
>>A new U.S. government decision extending wiretapping regulations to the Internet raises far more questions than it answers.<<
Good! And I still say fuck Bush up the ass with a 3 foot dildo, break it off inside him, and beat him over the head with what's left.
Posted by: shifty at August 20, 2004 07:34 PM