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Posted by: MajorityChatter at June 8, 2004 09:04 PM

First!!

Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at June 8, 2004 09:05 PM

KILLER, COWARD, CON-MAN
GOOD RIDDANCE, GIPPER ...
MORE PROOF ONLY THE GOOD DIE YOUNG
Sunday, June 6, 2004

by Greg Palast
You're not going to like this. You shouldn't speak ill of the dead. But in this case, someone's got to.
Ronald Reagan was a conman. Reagan was a coward. Reagan was a killer.
In 1987, I found myself stuck in a crappy little town in Nicaragua named Chaguitillo. The people were kind enough, though hungry, except for one surly young man. His wife had just died of tuberculosis.
People don't die of TB if they get some antibiotics. But Ronald Reagan, big hearted guy that he was, had put a lock-down embargo on medicine to Nicaragua because he didn't like the government that the people there had elected.
Ronnie grinned and cracked jokes while the young woman's lungs filled up and she stopped breathing. Reagan flashed that B-movie grin while they buried the mother of three.
And when Hezbollah terrorists struck and murdered hundreds of American marines in their sleep in Lebanon, the TV warrior ran away like a whipped dog … then turned around and invaded Grenada. That little Club Med war was a murderous PR stunt so Ronnie could hold parades for gunning down Cubans building an airport.
I remember Nancy, a skull and crossbones prancing around in designer dresses, some of the "gifts" that flowed to the Reagans -- from hats to million-dollar homes -- from cronies well compensated with government loot. It used to be called bribery.
And all the while, Grandpa grinned, the grandfather who bleated on about "family values" but didn't bother to see his own grandchildren.
The New York Times today, in its canned obit, wrote that Reagan projected, "faith in small town America" and "old-time values." "Values" my ass. It was union busting and a declaration of war on the poor and anyone who couldn't buy designer dresses. It was the New Meanness, bringing starvation back to America so that every millionaire could get another million.
"Small town" values? From the movie star of the Pacific Palisades, the Malibu mogul? I want to throw up.
And all the while, in the White House basement, as his brain boiled away, his last

Posted by: bowery at June 8, 2004 09:05 PM

HA HA
gotcha

Posted by: clueless in VB at June 8, 2004 09:05 PM

HEY!! You guy's have got to play>>>>

Republican Survivor!!!!

http://www.dtriptv.org/

It's hillarious!!

Episode #2- Thursday

Posted by: Roxy66 at June 8, 2004 09:05 PM

The New Blog: Almost as good as the Old Blog.

Posted by: cathy in seattle at June 8, 2004 09:05 PM

Best Suggestion I have heard..Put Reagan's Face on FOOD STAMPS!!!!!!!

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 09:06 PM

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucccccck!

I WANT A LOGIN PROC, NOW!

THEY SHIT ON OUR BLOG.

NOT ONE MORE TIME!

YO, SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMM!

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 09:06 PM

New blog format looks good! Don't like the Notes/Learn more about section, though. Keep it all together.

Posted by: Smallbottle at June 8, 2004 09:06 PM

why change the look of the blog when functional improvements are what's needed?

Posted by: FlamingBuddha at June 8, 2004 09:06 PM

I'd like to hear more about Gene Simmons. Oh, and there's some crazy yoots in Georgia:

http://www.infoshop.org/inews/stories.php?story=04/06/08/1820311

Posted by: Lukewarm WOYAH Fan at June 8, 2004 09:06 PM

Put Reagan's Face on FOOD STAMPS
********************************
Great Idea but there are no more FOOD STAMPS

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 09:07 PM

Kerry should select Biden for VP!!

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 09:07 PM

well, i made second anyway!

GREAT SHOW SO FAR J&S!

Biden kicked ass with his looks! you have to SEE him.

Posted by: clueless in VB at June 8, 2004 09:08 PM

I love Joseph Biden!!

Posted by: Roxy66 at June 8, 2004 09:08 PM

One explanation is that IT people keep their jobs by making ppl. think they are still needed by initiating "changes"... That happens a lot 'round here and as a result the system is frequently unuser friendly and "down".

Posted by: Vosh at June 8, 2004 09:08 PM

That's a fucking Lie -- I am a moveon.org person and I didn't cheer. What an asshole! Barone is a fucking liar!

Posted by: Tim from Ohio at June 8, 2004 09:08 PM

Who on earth is moveon.org folks?
moveon.org has some 2 million memberships. heh..

Posted by: wanda at June 8, 2004 09:08 PM

reagans face on hubcaps spinning, spinning so free down that lonesome highway of death..

Posted by: did ya get any on ya? at June 8, 2004 09:09 PM

the only one that was cheering was Bush
who are they kidding
the Reagans don't even like Bush

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 09:09 PM

Horraaaaay reagans dead

Posted by: reedabook at June 8, 2004 09:09 PM

I don't cheer for anyone's death -- I was saddened actually, and I don't know why. But fuck Barone. This pisses me off to no end. I am so pissed.

Posted by: Tim from Ohio at June 8, 2004 09:09 PM

http://www.michaelbarone.com/

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 09:09 PM

That comment about Move On says more about the idiot saying it then it does about Move On.

Posted by: clueless in VB at June 8, 2004 09:09 PM

I'm not a member of moveon...I hated the man more than most...I did not cheer...though if given the chance I would piss on his grave...

I am not a nice guy...sue me

Posted by: Nobody at June 8, 2004 09:09 PM

Clinton should crash the funeral!

Posted by: Rico at June 8, 2004 09:10 PM

I like the idea of putting Reagan's face on food stamps!! I knew last weekend it would only be a matter of time before the spectre of a Reagan Monument loomed. Sure enough, I just logged on to AOL and found a poll asking whether or not we'd like his face on the ten dollar bill and whether or not we'd like a Reagan Monument .

Posted by: TheLiberalScaife at June 8, 2004 09:10 PM

went to Pasedena city college
welding tech
1969
Alan
Watts
on KPFK
My ol homie!!!!!!!!!!
Bless u alll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at June 8, 2004 08:51 PM

------------

Alan Watts sayz:
The fourth and final period is
KALI YUGA
running for only 432,000 years(but don't take these figures literally...their purpose is merely
to give an idea of vastness)

In which the power of evil, and destruction
and Ronald Reagan takes over

in the end, your eternal self takes the form of Shiva Lord of renewal through death
Blue bodied and ten armed with a necklace of skulls...

but with one hand in the gesture called
'Fear Not'
as a reminder that all this is in illusion and play....

---------------
Rob Reich is right...we can't get complacent
we need to ride this blog for the next few years
cuz the next step is to try to put the kids to sleep with flower powder...we can't let that happen again

hey Janeane inspires me by believing in us

are we gonna make her proud? you got it!!!!

looks like we startin the re-evolution right here...little old us

we the bloggers

Posted by: dadalux at June 8, 2004 09:10 PM

Why can't Hannity, Limbaugh and O'Reilly be sued for slander for some of those stupid, absolutely false things they say about people???

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 09:10 PM

THANK YOU for bringing up Micheal Barone - he works for US News & WOrld Report a faiirrrly mainstream rag.

I could not believe it when I saw him say that on C-Span. Barone also trashed Soros.

Posted by: Alison in SF at June 8, 2004 09:10 PM

What is Barone's first name? How can I write to him?

I'd like to know how he reacted when Wellstone died.

Posted by: dan at June 8, 2004 09:10 PM

I hope you're not too terribly disappointed in me, Janeane and Sam, but, yes, I did cheer when I got the news about RR's demise. Mainly because it happened in June and not September when the GOP could've milked it to death and earned sympathy votes.

Posted by: Adamo at June 8, 2004 09:10 PM

Make his case as to why he shouldn't be lead away in handcuffs

Posted by: reedabook at June 8, 2004 09:10 PM

Kerry/Biden the Critical Mass ticket.

Posted by: JohnnyFontane at June 8, 2004 09:11 PM

I for one, was not cheering Reagan's death. I was not a fan of his politics, but I joined the country in the mourning of the passing of a former president.

Dissent is not the same as disrespect.

Posted by: Peter N at June 8, 2004 09:11 PM

They can't ban Clinton from the funeral -- he will be there. All of the living ex-presidents will be there. Drudge is really a moron. I don't know why he is even listened to anymore. He is a liar and a rumour mongerer.

Posted by: Tim from Ohio at June 8, 2004 09:11 PM

More on Social Darwinism: Lincoln once said something to the effect of: “Government is the coming together of peoples as a group to accomplish together what they could not, or would not, as individuals.” This is a wonderful example of “social Darwinism.” You could say that all social and political actions are social Darwinism. So (again) using the term to describe, in the derogative, the actions of Republicans, is inaccurate.

-James of Destined to Fail

Posted by: James at June 8, 2004 09:11 PM

NewsFlash: Reagan is still dead.

Posted by: wanda at June 8, 2004 09:11 PM

I belong to moveon.org, and, I was not cheering when #40 died. And like you Sam, I thought "I should be so lucky to live to 93".
The combined ages of my mother and father at their deaths was less than 93... so, everyone has their time.

Posted by: Kilian Garvey at June 8, 2004 09:11 PM

HEY!! You guy's have got to play>>>>

Republican Survivor!!!!

http://www.dtriptv.org/

It's hillarious!!

Episode #2- Thursday

Posted by: Roxy66 at June 8, 2004 09:11 PM

http://www.michaelbarone.com/

Lets get him

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 09:11 PM

I didnt cheer.
But I didnt shed a damn tear either.
Reagan got 5 star care that im sure 95% of
the rest of world will never, ever see.
Good for him.
But lets keep things in perspective......

Posted by: bowery at June 8, 2004 09:11 PM

Actually, the word "santorim" is Etruscan for foreskin.

Posted by: Adamo at June 8, 2004 09:11 PM

That isn't exactly legal is it....or are hey trying to change the laws to make it legal for churches to be politcal...

Posted by: Nobody at June 8, 2004 09:11 PM

did anyone else who read "bushwhacked" by molly ivins notice that, when she was talking about bush's love of photo ops related to education, she said that bush was in the florida classroom when the first plane hit WTC? we now know that 15 minutes before he got to the school that morning, he was told a plane had hit WTC. I am guessing she (molly ivins) did not know this yet when the book was published.

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 09:12 PM

or critical Mass/Delaware ticket i should say.

Posted by: JohnnyFontane at June 8, 2004 09:12 PM

I would have cheered Reagan's 10 year prolonged death if I didn't already know even in death his worthless, Fascist corpse would be costing millions upon millions in the form of a pointless Royal state funeral and distraction from reality. I do think, however, it is a liberal's duty to spit on this mass-murderer's grave.

Posted by: DK at June 8, 2004 09:12 PM

I cheered when Reagan died. Sorry that I'm a horrible person but Reagan was a creep and deserved the horrible drawn out death that he received. My only regret is that he couldn't go through it twice.

Posted by: Kevin on Long Island at June 8, 2004 09:12 PM

Posted by: christine at June 8, 2004 09:12 PM

i am a move on member..not only did i not cheer but i have great sympathy for any family that has to watch a loved one disappear into the abyss of alzheimer's... the people that are maligning me as a move on member will be the same to dishonor clinton when he dies and say he doesnt deserve a state funeral because he was impeached

Posted by: kissflubyagoodbye at June 8, 2004 09:12 PM

You can watch Micheal Barone say this on c-span:
http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/cspan.csp?command=dprogram&record=33892890.

Posted by: Alison in SF at June 8, 2004 09:12 PM

Bad Sam......BAD.
what you just say is associating same sex with bestiality.

... got to hink first before you say that sort of joke!

Posted by: wanda at June 8, 2004 09:12 PM

The super rich need government because they can't do anything. So to steal from ordinary people and protect them from those ordinary people they need government.

Posted by: reedabook at June 8, 2004 09:13 PM

Lost another listener. (I mean, I'm sure I'm not the only one.)
Tuned in, turned off immediately because they had that freakin' tape delay thing happening AGAIN. Like the interview was running twice with a three second delay, PLUS what sounded like something screening calls on mic. I don't know, it was surreal, but not entertaining anymore. How long are guests going to put up with their interviews being turned into gibberish?

Ms Garofolo et al, please go on hiatus and fix your technical problems, whatever you have to do. You're dragging down the whole enterprise.

Posted by: Fed up at June 8, 2004 09:13 PM

Here's his e-mail!!!

michaelbarone@michaelbarone.com

Posted by: Roxy66 at June 8, 2004 09:13 PM

Sad? No. Actively cheer? No. Now when Kissinger goes, that will be another story...

Posted by: KAS (MoveOn folk) at June 8, 2004 09:14 PM

Reagan's dead, just MoveOn..

Posted by: cj at June 8, 2004 09:14 PM

Darwinism is about the Individual, not the greater good of the species. So JG is correct in her usage of Social Darwinism.

Posted by: JohnnyFontane at June 8, 2004 09:14 PM

"The super rich need government because they can't do anything. So to steal from ordinary people and protect them from those ordinary people they need government."

HEAR HEAR

Posted by: Nobody at June 8, 2004 09:14 PM

All the righties are liars and traitors. What to do with traitors? The only ones "joyful" at Reagan's death are the new fascists on the right because they can exploit his death for their own political advantage. For these assholes the ends "always" justify the means. If they can gain 1 vote they'll take it. The RePodlicans have said that politics is war. Know your enemy!

Posted by: frngy at June 8, 2004 09:14 PM

I was a little kid during Reagan and honestly he's never made much of an impression on me one way or the other. Well, I know better than to fixate on who is President. It doesn't matter all that much. The commercials during elections make it seem like it. Don't believe your tv.

Posted by: Vosh at June 8, 2004 09:14 PM

Aww, Terry! That's so sweet that you are worried about Janeane!

Posted by: Catharine at June 8, 2004 09:03 PM

It's just so ignorant! Not to wear your belt WTF!!! Physics physics physics if you have a brain at all, you have to know what happens!

Posted by: terry wilke at June 8, 2004 09:14 PM

And there are no gay men on this jury!

Posted by: Tim from Ohio at June 8, 2004 09:15 PM

Just curious: Who here is a member of MoveOn.org?

Posted by: Catharine at June 8, 2004 09:15 PM

Horraaaaay reagans dead

Posted by: reedabook at June 8, 2004 09:09 PM

I don't cheer for anyone's death -- I was saddened actually, and I don't know why. But fuck Barone. This pisses me off to no end. I am so pissed.

Posted by: Tim from Ohio at June 8, 2004 09:09 PM

Tim there are trolls posting under other people's nics. reedabook would not say this. Read the earlier blog.

Posted by: darlenenbc at June 8, 2004 09:16 PM

Will Nancy get the Secret Service for the rest of her pointless life, too? Protecting her in their gated house inside two additional sets of gates in Bel Air? The Reagans will cost us millions in taxpayer money for generations just on their own personal pomp.

Posted by: dk at June 8, 2004 09:16 PM

i think the guy suffered enough losing his mind. didn't he lived 10 years not even knowing his own name? he probably had to have his butt wiped! that, to me is worse than death.

Posted by: clueless in VB at June 8, 2004 09:16 PM

They don't think they are above the law, they think they are the law.

Posted by: reedabook at June 8, 2004 09:16 PM

Posted by: cj at June 8, 2004 09:16 PM

Everywhere the MediaMonster is not

our message needs to be there

EVERYWHERE THE mEDIAmONSTER IS NOT

THATS WHERE WE NEED TO BE

when ashcroft sings

my cat howls like a wolf...

Posted by: dadalux at June 8, 2004 09:16 PM

I made it back. Yeah! I at least get to hear the last two hours.

Posted by: Miss Anne Thropic at June 8, 2004 09:16 PM

On the term Santorum - the sex columnist from the Village Voice coined that term to describe the frothy product of anal sex composed of a mix of feces and lubricant. The term has really caught on - do a google search for Santorum.

And that's what's for dinner!

Posted by: John at June 8, 2004 09:17 PM

Are they inept, or do they just like rubbing our noses in it?

Posted by: Adamo at June 8, 2004 09:17 PM

why should they respect the constitution? it never sticks up for itself, just lets people walk all over it. got to love yourself first, constitution.

Posted by: jojo at June 8, 2004 09:17 PM

As a supporter of MoveOn.org I can absolutely aver that I was not cheering the news of Mr. Reagan's death. Death is to be respected although the actions of Reagan's Administration were reprehensible.

Posted by: Calum di Warlock at June 8, 2004 09:11 PM

Gryphon: I would think that it was indeed illegal, but imagine it is common. I wouldn't be afraid to say something and my friend wouldn't either....... Are you sure? How does a "pioneer" give that much money if the max is $2000? Are they just "saying" that they have gotten each person to give $2000 on their own?

Posted by: Catharine at June 8, 2004 09:12 PM

I'm a charter member of Moveon.Org and I'm not cheering -- But I'm getting sick of the saint making going on. Union busting, S&L crisis, Iran-Contra, Central America, catsup = veggie, trees cause pollution, deficite, sky high interest rates, iron belt turned into the rust belt, people losing their homes, Lebanon, arming Osamma -- the man was NOT A SAINT. He was a human being and it's a shame he died before he could admit his mistakes.

Posted by: seajane at June 8, 2004 09:12 PM

Free trade like Free Press is an oxymoron.

Posted by: Calum di Warlock at June 8, 2004 09:13 PM

01:26 pm - More quotes from Passionate Declarations
from Passionate Declarations..

In imagining alternatives to the all out assault against the Facists, could there have been alternative ways to fight them? Zinn ponders...

"Even in the midst of war, some nations occupied by the Nazies were able to resist: The Danes, The Norwegians, and the Bulgarians refused to give up their Jews. Gene Sharp, on the basis of his study of resistance movements in WW2 writes:

'During the second World War, in such occupied countries as the Netherlands, Norway and Denmark, patriots resited their Nazi overlords and internal puppets by such weapons as underground newspapers, labor slowdowns, general strikes, refusal of collaboration, special boycotts of German troops and quislings, and noncooperation with fascist controls and efforts to restructure their societies institutions'

Guerilla warefare is more selective, its violence more limited and more discriminate t

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at June 8, 2004 09:17 PM

genie! i love you...ma' fellow honkey!

Posted by: ledge of liberty at June 8, 2004 09:17 PM

waving my hand..me me me ...proud member of moveon...hey you arent from the fbi are you

Posted by: kissflubyagoodbye at June 8, 2004 09:17 PM

He may not speak, but he will be at the funeral!

Posted by: Tim from Ohio at June 8, 2004 09:17 PM

Dada? Howls, huh?

Posted by: Catharine at June 8, 2004 09:17 PM

It wasn't Reagan, it was the banks, insurance companies, corporations. They're in charge no matter who is President --- unless Nader got in and even then it's hard to know what he could do when the citizenry is so jaded.

Posted by: Vosh at June 8, 2004 09:18 PM

The Peter Principle is that you get promoted as long as you can do the job, but when you are promoted to a job you aren't competent at, you stay at that job from that point on...

Posted by: Brian Westley at June 8, 2004 09:18 PM

Jeanane, you and Sam are classic examples of the Peter Principle in action. Now you better find out what it means.

Posted by: Iowa at June 8, 2004 09:18 PM

Happy Moveon.org fan here.

Posted by: darlenenbc at June 8, 2004 09:18 PM

Pronunciation: san-TOR-um
Function: noun
Etymology: Savage Love - 05/29/03
1. The frothy mix of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex.

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 09:18 PM

Reagan's one positive contribution was the inspiration of the punk movement in NY, DC, SF, LA. Otherwise, he is garbage.

And you know the neocon traitors will be having clear channel sponsored joy parades when Clinton dies.

Posted by: dk at June 8, 2004 09:18 PM

The Peter Principle is that you rise to the level of your greatest incompetence. Meaning that you go as far as you can, and then you can't go any higher, because you are lousy at your present level.

Posted by: Peter N at June 8, 2004 09:18 PM

think the guy suffered enough losing his mind. Posted by: clueless in VB at June 8, 2004 09:16 PM

Reagan cannot be blamed for losing his mind. It is easy to misplace small items.

Posted by: reedabook at June 8, 2004 09:18 PM

Dada? Howls, huh?

Posted by: Catharine at June 8, 2004 09:18 PM

peter principle is when you are promoted beyond your capabilities

Posted by: su z at June 8, 2004 09:18 PM

Sam Sexy is sounding extra sexy this evening...

Posted by: ledge of liberty at June 8, 2004 09:18 PM

The Peter Principle is a theory originated by Dr. Laurence J. Peter which states that employees within a hierarchical organization advance to their highest level of competence, are then promoted to a level where they are incompetent, and then stay in that position.

Posted by: Dutch Masters at June 8, 2004 09:18 PM

>One explanation is that IT people keep their jobs by making ppl. think they are still needed by initiating "changes"... That happens a lot 'round here and as a result the system is frequently unuser friendly and "down".

Posted by: Vosh at June 8, 2004 09:08 PM>

Nope Vosh...

This is strictly a volunteer effort here.

There is only one IT guy for all of AAR who has his hands full and has hardly thing to do with MRR aside from a little occasional tech help for Sam when asked.

Changes here go along with the MRR website changes. Patience, it will stay on the raw side I hope but its evolving...

Posted by: Great American Patriot at June 8, 2004 09:18 PM

peter principle is when you are promoted beyond your capabilities

Posted by: su z at June 8, 2004 09:18 PM

If Bush was brilliant, an evil genius, I don't think they would NEED to cheat and the election in the first place!

Posted by: matt1234 at June 8, 2004 09:18 PM

why should they respect the constitution? it never sticks up for itself, just lets people walk all over it. got to love yourself first, constitution.

Posted by: jojo at June 8, 2004 09:19 PM

waving my hand..me me me ...proud member of moveon...hey you arent from the fbi are you

Posted by: kissflubyagoodbye at June 8, 2004 09:19 PM

The Peter Principle: That one can rise to the highest level of one's incompitence.

I think in GWB's case, he's risen above and beyond and created a new principle, the Duh Principle: That one can rise to the highest level of one's daddy's bankroll.

Posted by: Connie at June 8, 2004 09:19 PM

peter principal: everyone rises to their level of incompetence

Posted by: Steve L :) at June 8, 2004 09:19 PM

Can you imagine if we had ANY reporters that would ask any interesting or important questions at the next presidential press conference? that question about dubya making mistakes is the best one in a long time...and you can bet it will be the last. that poor guy will never work again!

Posted by: clueless in VB at June 8, 2004 09:19 PM

The Peter Principle: Rising to the level of your incompetence.

You will continue being promoted for doing a good job. Once you reach a level where your competence is not suited for the additional duties, you are no longer promoted. But... You are not demoted, either. So you continue indefinitely in the job you are incompetent for.

Posted by: wiggen at June 8, 2004 09:19 PM

Peter Principle: "You've risen to the level of your incomptence". Although in Bushe's case he way over shot...

Posted by: Dan R. at June 8, 2004 09:19 PM

The Peter Principle:

You rise to your level of incompetence.

Posted by: lib at June 8, 2004 09:19 PM

Peter Principle: "You've risen to the level of your incomptence". Although in Bushe's case he way over shot...

Posted by: Dan R. at June 8, 2004 09:20 PM

Peter Principle (according to the American Heritage Dictionary)

The theory that employees within an organization will advance to their highest level of competence and then be promoted to and remain at a level at which they are incompetent.

Posted by: Dan Burt at June 8, 2004 09:20 PM

I'm a proud liberal and a MoveOn member. I did not cheer, but that is irrelevant. What is shameful, however, is Barone's craven exploitation of Reagan's death to help boost Dumbya's poll numbers by smearing a group of Americans who oppose the Bush Crime Family.

Posted by: fafnir at June 8, 2004 09:20 PM

Caeli been right on every time she posts

she be on a roll! keep it coming...

Posted by: dadalux at June 8, 2004 09:20 PM

i did not like reagan's politics. but, speaking as a relative of many alzheimer's victims, the longer a victim lives with the disease, the harder it is on the family. to see a loved one slip away inside is painful. reagan lived to be very old. and i know that he was suffering the effects when he was president. our country suffered because of what his administration did and that he did not prevent it.

Posted by: christine at June 8, 2004 09:20 PM

Can you imagine if we had AMY GOODMAN asking the President Questions?

Posted by: Miss Anne Thropic at June 8, 2004 09:21 PM

It's important to point out that the Safe Harbor plan is buried in the gigantic *American Jobs Creation Act of 2004*, which means that the GOP can claim that opponents are "anti-employment" instead of in favor of the separation of Church and State.

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 09:21 PM

How many here would Ex-patriate should Reagan's drooling grin end up staring at us on our national currency?

Posted by: dk at June 8, 2004 09:21 PM

Posted by: cj at June 8, 2004 09:14 PM
“Darwinism is about the Individual, not the greater good of the species. So JG is correct in her usage of Social Darwinism.”

No it’s not. That’s why the book was called “The Origin of Species.” Not, “The Current Happenings of an Individual.”

James of Destined to Fail.

Posted by: James at June 8, 2004 09:21 PM

That Bush guy is so dump bladibladiabla ... Peter Principle is ... bladiabliabali ..., eh now I forgot what the peter principle was, oh oops, am I dumb or what?

Posted by: not funny at June 8, 2004 09:21 PM

They, who is they?

they do NOT want Clinton to speek at the
Ronni wake, becasue he will tell the TRUTH
about what Ronni did, did not do anything
about HIV infection, helped the dict. govt.
in Central Amer. what an fool people are to
think Ronni was good, he was a dick, and
he was not really president anyway.

Posted by: wbai.org at June 8, 2004 09:21 PM

clinton gave an eloquent eulogy at nixon's funeral..the last thing they want is a repeat of that

Posted by: kissflubyagoodbye at June 8, 2004 09:21 PM

Hi Sam .....where can I get your autograph?

Posted by: Linda at June 8, 2004 09:21 PM

Yeah, when Clinton dies there will probably be a bill on the floor to take away his state-sponsored funeral. I am already sick of teh Reagan mourning. It is flat out maoist -- You get the idea that everything he did was good, and he was a state's saint from these people on TV. I mean the only thing missing are his minion's self-flagellation as they toss little red books at the tv screens!

Posted by: Tim from Ohio at June 8, 2004 09:21 PM

The Peter Principle:

A person rises to their level of incompetence.

If a person does a job well, they will be promoted until they finally attain a position in which they are barely adequate.

-r

Posted by: Randy at June 8, 2004 09:21 PM

Peter Priniciple: You rise to your level of incompetence. That is, as long as you do a great job, you will continue to be promoted until you no longer do a good job. Bush reached that level long before he was president, so there is actually another principle at work - If you can't dazzle 'em with your brilliance, baffle 'em with your bullsh*t.

mjk

Posted by: micalk at June 8, 2004 09:22 PM

The Peter Principle has attained such renown that The American Heritage Dictionary defines it as "The theory that employees within an organization will advance to their highest level of competence and then be promoted to and remain at a level at which they are incompetent."

Promoted to his level of incompetence

Posted by: Dana at June 8, 2004 09:22 PM

Posted by: Tim from Ohio at June 8, 2004 09:22 PM

>> ... got to hink first before you say that sort of joke! <<

We gay people can take that type of joke from Sam tho... we know he means it in a reverse -psychological sort of way.

It's not a joke, however, when someone wants to amend our constitution to say - you have no right to be recognized, cuz our religious beliefs say so.

The more people hear how stupid the "relation" between homosexuality and beastiality, pedophilia, and all the other things they claim me to be (kleptomaniac was a classic, thanks Trent Lott) the better off I'll be. Desensatization works in a round about way. Humor helps.

Posted by: Gay boi Charlie at June 8, 2004 09:22 PM

I was listening to the montages of Reagan's speeches this past weekend, and one struck me as an amazingly approriate argument NOT to re-elect George Bush - from Reagan's mouth. I made a 40 second piece using Reagan's speech and pictures from the last four years.

www.billysheahan.com/vote/

I think you'll enjoy it.

Billy Sheahan
Chicago, IL

Posted by: Billy Sheahan at June 8, 2004 09:22 PM

'The Anatomy of Fascism': The Original Axis of Evil

May 2, 2004
By SAMANTHA POWER

Fascism, to hear President Bush tell it, has been revived
by Islamic militants. ''The terrorists are the heirs to
fascism,'' he has said. ''They have the same will to power,
the same disdain for the individual, the same mad global
ambitions. And they will be dealt with in just the same
way. Like all fascists, the terrorists cannot be appeased:
they must be defeated.''

In this statement, Bush laid out his checklist for what
constitutes fascism. Such checklists are required because
fascism -- unlike Communism, socialism, capitalism or
conservatism -- is a smear word more often used to brand
one's foes than it is a descriptor used to shed light on
them. Robert O. Paxton, a professor emeritus at Columbia
University and the author of several books, including
''Vichy France,'' is not the first scholar to wade into a
definitional and historical quagmire in order to answer the
question, What is fascism? Indeed, his book ''The Anatomy
of Fascism'' -- which doubles as a history and a sustained
argument -- is not the most original study of the subject.
But it is so fair, so thorough and, in the end, so
convincing that it may well become the most authoritative.

Why should readers care about fascism? Paxton offers one
answer at the outset. ''Fascism was the major political
innovation of the 20th century, and the source of much of
its pain.'' But in exploring how such uncouth nobodies as
Hitler and Mussolini introduced what the Italian
philosopher and historian Benedetto Croce described as an
''onagrocracy'' -- or ''government by braying asses'' -- he
also hopes to enable us to recognize ''what the 21st
century must avoid.''

''The Anatomy of Fascism'' is the work of a distinguished
scholar who has sifted through the primary sources, the
tomes and the trends in an effort to synthesize and even
settle prior debates. His main emphasis is on Mussolini's
Italy and Hitler'

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at June 8, 2004 09:22 PM

From what remains of The Daily Probe: Reagan Dies. Jody Foster still not impressed.

Posted by: opeluboy at June 8, 2004 09:22 PM

Peter principle = San & Jeanane
They admit it on a regular basis

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 09:22 PM

I am with MoveOn also, and I think that some people don't get it...... they think it's like a club, when it's more like a bunch of people who go to the same website because they are interested in what it has to say. I think there are now a few million "members" (that term should be used loosely)

Posted by: Catharine at June 8, 2004 09:23 PM

Respect for the dead always.

Let the people who loved him have their time to mourn

...and then the critical analysis will begin.

For the rest of us...we should pick a different topic of conversation, ay?

There certainly is enough to bitch about, no?

Posted by: White Witch at June 8, 2004 09:23 PM

What I like about Reagans is Nancy TV "Just Say No to Drugs !" tv appearance on "Different Stroke" while her husband was flooding the innercities with coke and crack from the Iran - Contra enterprise.

what a Bunch of hypocrites

Posted by: Alain at June 8, 2004 09:23 PM

we need to change the focus back to bush by showing how reagan was a better prez than he is

Posted by: kissflubyagoodbye at June 8, 2004 09:23 PM

The Peter Principle is defined by one having risen to the level of his or her incompetence.

I don't know whether there's a principle that describes the phenomenon of one progressing severla quantum leaps beyond one's level of incompetence. That may venture into the realm of theoretical physics, perhaps (pulling) string(s) theory (?).

Posted by: mb at June 8, 2004 09:23 PM

I have Reich's book. It's great and the colors go well with my bookcase. ;)

I first saw Reich on a PBS special talking about investing in roads and bridges before Clintonwon the election. He was the first to teach me the difference between investing by investing in human capital and growing the deficit Reagan/Bush style. I thought his appointment to the Clinton cabinet was brilliant! I knew Clinton was on the right track from that moment on. I knew he was looking for the brightest people to serve.

Join the Air Rational Guard - Because Chalabi doesn't deserve a second term

http://www.airrationalguard.org
http://www.airrationalguard.org
http://www.airrationalguard.org
http://www.airrationalguard.org

Posted by: AirRationalGuard.org at June 8, 2004 09:23 PM

Maybe Air America should begin fighting back against the neocons by spreading lies about them. For instance, "An anonymous source says Rick Santorum was caught having sex with his maid's 14 year old son and the family's giant poodle. Apparantly, congress has a copy of the video tape but the Republicans refuse to release it to police".

Posted by: dk at June 8, 2004 09:23 PM

Dude, PLEASE fix that typo!!!

It's "Who's On The Show?", not "WHOSE on the show?"

It's on that link at the top of the home page.

Posted by: Spence at June 8, 2004 09:23 PM

Well Rumsfeld hates Al jazerah.
That intrigues me enough.

Posted by: wanda at June 8, 2004 09:23 PM

And yes, Bush has risen way beyong the level of his incompetence. But I have always felt that he was picked by the right wing cabal (neocons and others perhaps?) primarily because it was felt that competence is not necessary if you have the right people around you to prop you up.

Posted by: wiggen at June 8, 2004 09:24 PM

Condi busy smearing Al Jazeera

Posted by: opeluboy at June 8, 2004 09:24 PM

That's it Janeane has lost it - al jazeera resposible journalism Now thats funny

Posted by: Guppylard at June 8, 2004 09:24 PM

There is not one mention on moveon.org's website of Reagan's passing. So, unless Barone was in a room full of people who stood up and said "we are all members of moveon.org," then they all proceeded to cheer, well, you see how freaking ludicrous the statement can be. Yet, the folks of the right, will just eat up stuff like that, repeat it to their close minded friends and they will all look at each other with smug satisfaction.

Posted by: TorT at June 8, 2004 09:25 PM

That's it Janeane has lost it - al jazeera resposible journalism Now thats funny

==========================

QUALIFY THIS STATEMENT

Posted by: ledge of liberty at June 8, 2004 09:25 PM

being a member of moveon merely means you are participating in democracy..and we certainly do believe in live free or die..when they say it they mean they live free and we should die

Posted by: kissflubyagoodbye at June 8, 2004 09:25 PM

dk, don't bother, Bush is dumb, therefore the people on this site are smart and know how to spell, don't pretend to know better.

Posted by: not funny at June 8, 2004 09:25 PM

The great thing in the film is how both sides, Rumsfeld and many Arab states, each accused Al Jazeerah of being biased on behalf of the other. Rumsfeld hated them so much he ordered a hit on their reporters in Baghdad.

Posted by: Adamo at June 8, 2004 09:25 PM

I don't respect the dead. They are non-existent. I can certainly respect their memory by repspecting their surving loved ones and friends. If the memory deserves respect.

BTW I cheered when Reagan died. But I did it here in my room, repectfully.

James of Destined to Fail.

Posted by: James at June 8, 2004 09:26 PM

Well, let's put it this way. Al Jazeera is at least as responsible in their journalism as FOX is.

Posted by: dan at June 8, 2004 09:26 PM

Dear Mr. Seder:

Here is a quick definition of capitalism. Capital is a social relation. This social relation entails one small segment of society monopolizing ownership of the means of production. This necessarily implies that another large segment of society has no means to realize their productive activity. This social relation turns the ability to labor into a commodity known as labor power. Those without ownership or control over means of production must sell their labor power in order to live. Regardless of any institutional forms, as long as this social relation exists, capitalism exists.

One definition of capital is value in the movement of self growth. Value in money form that maintains itself while in circulation and adds to itself an increment is known as capital.

Sincerely,

Jeffrey Stewart

Posted by: Jeffrey at June 8, 2004 09:26 PM

If it comes down to believing the New York Times or Al Jazeera, I'll go with AJ.

Posted by: opeluboy at June 8, 2004 09:26 PM

That's it Janeane has lost it - al jazeera resposible journalism Now thats funny
Posted by: Guppylard at June 8, 2004 09:24 PM <<

Al jazeera may not the ultimate un-bias media.
But al jazeera point a lot of good point. It reports a lot of thing that we can't get from other course.

Posted by: wanda at June 8, 2004 09:26 PM

The Peter Principle simply states that people are promoted only as high as the level of their own incompetence. In Bush et. al.'s case, though, the principle doesn't apply, since if it did, they couldn't even be elected dogcatcher.

Also, when is Mr. Biafra appearing? He's one of my favorites, so prescient! Saw him speak here in Omaha to a standing-room-only crowd.

Posted by: Dee at June 8, 2004 09:26 PM

http://www.controlroommovie.com/site/01.html

Posted by: Miss Anne Thropic at June 8, 2004 09:26 PM

Ask him if most AJ reporters aren't from the BBC. Oops, he just said it.

Posted by: opeluboy at June 8, 2004 09:27 PM

al jazeera hasnt hired judith miller yet..thats a plus over the ny times

Posted by: kissflubyagoodbye at June 8, 2004 09:27 PM

opeluboy, have you seen control room? If you had you will see that Al Jazeera is pretty responsible, as opposed to fox news. saw it saturday at the film forum and was blown away, especially seeing the plane as it was getting ready to bomb AJ headquarters, killing a reporter.

Posted by: akrnyc at June 8, 2004 09:27 PM

"We're banned everywhere."

Now that IS the sign of good journalism.

Posted by: dan at June 8, 2004 09:27 PM

Testing testing testing...the blog just posted my remarks under the moniker of Catherine.

Ghost in the Machine?

Posted by: White Witch at June 8, 2004 09:27 PM

all i know is A J is good at putting forth information before it's picked up by mainstream media...thats a good thing

Posted by: ledge of liberty at June 8, 2004 09:27 PM

A list of Republican Pedophiles. This is a VERY important story and should be investigated and repeated everywhere to help destroy the Neooxycon movement:

(1) Republican Mayor Philip Giordano - 37 year sentence for sexually abusing 8 and 10 year old girls.
http://www.nbc30.com/news/2268479/detail.htmlDtopstories&id=56414,00.html

(2) Republican Congressman, Donald "Buz" Lukens, convicted of having sex with a minor.
http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/from_redirect/0,10987,1101890213-151183 ,00.html

(3) Republican fundraiser, Richard A. Delgaudio, convicted of child porn charges.
http://www.thewbalchannel.com/news/2153721/detail.html

(4) Republican activist, Mark A. Grethen, convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
http://www.orlandoweekly.com/weird/index.asp?now=3400

(5) Republican activist, Randal David Ankeney, convicted of assaulting a 14-year-old girl.
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/1130885/detail.html

(6) Republican Congressman, Dan Crane, had sex with a minor.
http://archive.salon.com/col/cona/1998/10/05cona.html

(7) Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader, Beverly Russell, admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
http://wlo.org/nw/nww5.html

(8) Republican anti-abortion activist, John Allen Burt, was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15 year old girl.
http://www.brojed.org/wwwboard/messages/14076.html

(9) Conservative radio talk host indicted on charge of indecency with child
http:

Posted by: dk at June 8, 2004 09:28 PM

Al Jazeera is a good place to go for news that the US won't print
they shouldn't have to get stuck with fox news

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 09:28 PM

Billy Sheahan
Chicago, IL

Billy, i'm gonna watch it just cuz you're from my home town. I really miss the place:-(

Posted by: clueless in VB at June 8, 2004 09:28 PM

Well, let's put it this way. Al Jazeera is at least as responsible in their journalism as FOX is.
Posted by: dan at June 8, 2004 09:26 PM <<

no way. AL jazeerah stand up to their reporting and go under the bullet.

FOx is jsut bunch of pretty face sitting in studio pretending the world spin around the world.

Posted by: wanda at June 8, 2004 09:28 PM

the bushies are calling al franken a traitor now cuz al jazeera did a story on him

Posted by: kissflubyagoodbye at June 8, 2004 09:28 PM

Posted by: dk at June 8, 2004 09:23 PM

Hahahaha Who needs to spread lies! They give us plenty of ammunition Bush just opens his mouth!

Posted by: darlenenbc at June 8, 2004 09:29 PM

name appears under the separator line for the moment...calm down

Posted by: Nobody at June 8, 2004 09:29 PM

Egypt Saudi America British Israeli Palestinean

governments

all work together

have been for years

the citizens get the short end of the stick

why is Al-Jazeera banned in arab nations?

because the fix is in

starting to catch on?

thanx Janeane and Sam

you doing a really smart and good thing here

keep it up

we starting to see through the haze...

Posted by: dadalux at June 8, 2004 09:29 PM

DK; great list!! Thank you. A saver for all of us. Memorize!!

Posted by: James at June 8, 2004 09:29 PM

Janeane, Sam, would you ask your guests to speculate on who the looters were after the siege of Baghdad? Do they really think they were Kurdish soldiers posing as locals?

Posted by: Adamo at June 8, 2004 09:29 PM

ask how many of there reporters have been killed in Iraq???????????????/

Posted by: vortex at June 8, 2004 09:29 PM

WHOA!

Now my post came out as DAN.

Something is screwy.

Posted by: White Witch at June 8, 2004 09:29 PM

If FOX is a news station,

so is the SCI-FI station...

Posted by: ledge of liberty at June 8, 2004 09:30 PM

Well, let's put it this way. Al Jazeera is at least as responsible in their journalism as FOX is.
********************************************
Try more responsible. Watch the movie control room and see for yourself. Al Jazeera is the place to get your news in the Middle East and In America if you care to educate yourself.

Posted by: Miss Anne Thropic at June 8, 2004 09:30 PM

....Hey, maybe somebody will make a movie about AAR...

heh heh. that would be a doozy for sure.

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 09:30 PM

Can I cheer if hannity and limburger die???

Posted by: reedabook at June 8, 2004 09:30 PM

Mr. Barone,

In the future please say something like, "Now I am going to make stuff up," the next time you decide to start making things up. Like when you said that they cheered at Moveon when Reagan died. This will help viewers know when you are making stuff up.

Thanks.

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 09:30 PM

"Whose" is a possessive pronoun/adjective.
"Who's" is a contraction of "Who is."

Not that difficult, guys.

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 09:31 PM

Hey Clueless in VB!

Chicago is doing well. We've finally had summer arrive. Nice. Good luck to you wherever you are!

Billy in Chicago

Posted by: Billy Sheahan at June 8, 2004 09:31 PM

Women always show
up when it's important to
consider ritual

timing what it's alla about

"""Respect for the dead always.

Let the people who loved him have their time to mourn

...and then the critical analysis will begin.

For the rest of us...we should pick a different topic of conversation, ay?

There certainly is enough to bitch about, no?"""

Ey J ; )))

member dat pome
wher it say
"those we wish to help
suspect us the most"

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at June 8, 2004 09:31 PM

hey dk why stop there...there must be thousands if not millions more

Posted by: kissflubyagoodbye at June 8, 2004 09:32 PM

WHAT ABOUT DAVID ICKE:
Yesterday you had a great moment when you invited the great Greg Palast to your program,but unfortunatly insted of keeping him for the whole show you let him go only after 45min.You than proceded to bring on some "flauf"to finish your show,it is unfortunate that you refuse to do it right.I love Janeane she's bang on all the time and she's hot but the show SUCKS IN THE WORST WAY beacause of how you set up your guest list.Do yourself a favor bring on David Icke and next time you have a great guest like Greg Palast keep him at least for 2hrs or DON'T INVITE HIM!!! If you don't get your fucking act together your going to turn your fan base(i.e. myself)right off AND WILL BE REPLACED!!!! That will be too bad 'cause Jennie's HOT!!!

Posted by: graig sterling at June 8, 2004 09:32 PM

Well, let's put it this way. Al Jazeera is at least as responsible in their journalism as FOX is.

Posted by: dan at June 8, 2004 09:26 PM

i agree. how can we judge their TV New? that's hysterical!

Posted by: clueless in VB at June 8, 2004 09:32 PM

>did anyone else who read "bushwhacked" by molly ivins notice that, when she was talking about bush's love of photo ops related to education, she said that bush was in the florida classroom when the first plane hit WTC? we now know that 15 minutes before he got to the school that morning, he was told a plane had hit WTC. I am guessing she (molly ivins) did not know this yet when the book was published.

Posted by: christine at June 8, 2004 09:12 PM>

Interesting of you to find that Christine, I just saw Bushwhacked in paperback at Borders for $12.

There is a 9/11 timeline link at Randi's site:

http://www.therandirhodesshow.com

Jimmy, you ok tonight?

I saw you reposting multiple copies of different people's posts here but you weren't commenting so I was just wondering what was up with that?

Posted by: Great American Patriot at June 8, 2004 09:32 PM

Thanks for the tunes! I love 1980s independent rock & roll music. Joy Division, Mission of Burma, The Replacements, and Husker Du are some of my favourites. Right on!

I'm loving you guys up in Canada! Have been a Garofalo fan for years! You go girl! You’re speaking the truth and fighting the fascists!

Now play some Throwing Muses please!

Posted by: KingCrudcup at June 8, 2004 09:32 PM

Cheney hiding his criticism of Reagan:

http://www.misleader.org/daily_mislead/Read.asp?fn=df06082004.html

Chickenhawk in every way.

Posted by: dk at June 8, 2004 09:32 PM

>>ask how many of there reporters have been killed in Iraq???????????????/<<

Yeah, and how the Ameican fliers knew just where to aim their missiles.

Posted by: Adamo at June 8, 2004 09:33 PM

Name is below your post-

Example:

Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah CRACKER Blah Blah Blah Blah PEACHES Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah SAM'S BOW TIE Blah Blah BLONDE?_______________________
Posted by: Blah Blah at June 8, 2004 09:29 PM

Posted by: Rico at June 8, 2004 09:33 PM

Reagan was an elitist, he and all his faux friends.
He went to war on the poor and down and out. I had less than a $1000.00 on my student loan, I had a deferment because my son was born sick. Reagan threatened anyone holding a loan, the police came to my house and told me to call a number it was an emergency. It was the scum they hired to harrass. Millions stolen in the S&L (neal bush involved)and these bastards were after me!

Posted by: Janet at June 8, 2004 09:33 PM

post it again Billy from chi-town

Posted by: terry wilke at June 8, 2004 09:33 PM

play some SONIC YOUTH!!!

Posted by: ledge of liberty at June 8, 2004 09:33 PM

The music is GREAT tonight. More P.I.L.!

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 09:33 PM

Thanks to Greg Palast for saying what needs to be said.

www.GregPalast.com

Here's the link to his webpage for the commentary:
KILLER, COWARD, CON-MAN
GOOD RIDDANCE, GIPPER ...
MORE PROOF ONLY THE GOOD DIE YOUNG
Sunday Jun 6, 2004

Posted by: Gregory Wonderwheel at June 8, 2004 09:34 PM

Go! Look!

http://www.musicforamerica.org/node/view/23215

Funny! Ashcroftastic!

Posted by: hyperbolic pants explosion at June 8, 2004 09:34 PM

robyn hitchcock, too?

Posted by: c fro at June 8, 2004 09:34 PM

Janey-Anne sounds like A Lil' Abner character.

Posted by: GodsOwnFool at June 8, 2004 09:34 PM

Testing testing testing...

The last three posts from me have come up as other people's names and not me.

This is not Kansas anymore.

Posted by: White Witch at June 8, 2004 09:34 PM

Janeane, you have the best taste in music on any station, anywhere! Please keep doing what your doing. More Stranglers!

Posted by: dk at June 8, 2004 09:35 PM

Well, I'm a former air traffic controller who was fired by ronnie rayguns and while they may not have been cheering at MoveOn.org, I sure as hell was. He's dead, I'm alive, I won!

Posted by: masondixonaz at June 8, 2004 09:35 PM

http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

The English Al Jazeera webpages are more objective and more informative than most US mainstream TV webpages.

Posted by: Gregory Wonderwheel at June 8, 2004 09:35 PM

when you have muslim or arab people on the show, you should really ask them to speak some arabic people so we can all hear it. i bet it sounds real cool.

Posted by: jojo at June 8, 2004 09:35 PM

if you drink anybodys kool-aid

you are working for the war machine man

ANYBODYS Kool-aid

only folks who give up kool-aid drinking
can play the change the world game

Posted by: dadalux at June 8, 2004 09:35 PM

We are being "led" lemming like by the Corporate Entities to a economic train wreck that will soon turn into a catastrophy for our population.

Ted Nace in his book GangsofAmerica explores how people can be individually good, yet work for Corporate Enities that are essentually manevolent.

Niel Furguson postulates that America is an Empire that refuses to acknowledge its Imperialism.

I contest that conclusion and say that in fact it is a empire of Transnational Corporations, some of which happen to have their origins in America. Since these corporations pay little or no taxes, maintain their "headquarters" offshore, and the majority of their employees are offshore they can hardly be called "American".

From The May 6th 2004 Economist print edition - The lunatic you work for - If the corporation were a person, would that person be a psychopath?

The answer is yes.

Posted by: Argon at June 8, 2004 09:35 PM

"Our revenge will be the laughter of our children"

Posted by: citizen frolik at June 8, 2004 09:36 PM

Sonic Youth.. No PIL...

I just want to say I hate those republican cracker assholes who are busying destroying this country.

Posted by: adam w at June 8, 2004 09:36 PM

But isn't it true that al Jazeerah informed the Pentagon in advance of the exact coordinates of all their reporters?

Posted by: Adamo at June 8, 2004 09:36 PM

oh...wow...

There is a news flash......we know it frist before anybody else.
Explosion outside the green zone.

Posted by: wanda at June 8, 2004 09:36 PM

SAM AND JANEANE! SAM AND JANEANE! The "Curves" gyms that have been sweeping the country are owned by crazy right wing christian fundamentalist! donates BIG $$$$$$ to PRO-LIFE CENTERS!!!!

here is the article:

tell everyone you know! CURVES gyms! Ban! Boycott!!!!

Rolling with the Curves
The world's fastest-growing fitness chain is helping ordinary women get healthy-body and soul.
By John W. Kennedy

Business by the Book
Servanthood may not be today's normal model for business success, but that hasn't stopped the Heavins. In 2003, the couple gave away $10 million—10 percent of their company's gross revenues and 80 percent of Gary's net income—to charities. Heavin matches the first $1,000 that each franchise raises for community causes such as walkathons to benefit pro-life pregnancy-care centers. Such controversial stances have led to criticism, but Heavin is unfazed. "There's nothing healthy about abortion," he says. "I'm not afraid to tell the truth."

Each spring for the past seven years, Curves customers have brought non-perishable goods to their locations to help feed the hungry. In 2003 alone, clients donated 4.25 million pounds of groceries for local food banks.

Heavin is upfront with both Christian and non-Christian franchisees about the biblical principles that guide the company. And accordingly, most Curves locations are closed on Sundays.

Posted by: misty at June 8, 2004 09:36 PM

BRING BACK THE OLD BLOG.

Posted by: White Witch at June 8, 2004 09:36 PM

Can anyone here report hearing the words "Iran/Contra" ANYWHERE in the mainstream media Reagan love fest 2004 over the last four days? Anywhere? One single mention?

I guess I was smoking a lot of pot back then--maybe it didn't really happen.

Posted by: dk at June 8, 2004 09:36 PM

I really wish the guy would stop saying uhhhhhhh. it is a bit hard to understand what he is saying.

Posted by: reedabook at June 8, 2004 09:36 PM

test

Posted by: wanda at June 8, 2004 09:37 PM

hassan,
do your listeners understand that bush was selected not elected? i apologize to your viewers on behalf of the american people that would not wish was the government is doing on our worst enemy much less a non existant one

Posted by: kissflubyagoodbye at June 8, 2004 09:37 PM

The looters, ask about the looters. I gotta know.

Posted by: Adamo at June 8, 2004 09:37 PM

Jimmy, you ok tonight?

I saw you reposting multiple copies of different people's posts here but you weren't commenting so I was just wondering what was up with that?

Posted by: Great American Patriot at June 8, 2004 09:32 PM:::::::::::::

Of course, those are the posts that appear after my new blog post at the hour change, i want ever buddy heard.

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at June 8, 2004 09:37 PM

"Our revenge will be the laughter of our children"

Posted by citizen frolik at June 8, 2004 09:36 PM

Nah.. the Neo Cons will destroy them too or have them further enslaved.

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 09:37 PM

This new format of posting sucks! It takes too long for the post to load. I preferred the pop-up window for posting (also, cuz I could look at the site whenever my post was loading slowly).

Otherwise, awesome show!!! More 80s music please. (Yeah, I know I'm dating myself, but it's the only way I can enjoy intelligent conversation and good sex.)

Posted by: Bumpkin at June 8, 2004 09:37 PM

Of course Al Jazeera was intentionally targeted. Fascists always go after the media first.

Posted by: opeluboy at June 8, 2004 09:37 PM

Look these guys are fascists. They worship at the alter of the "cult of personality!" Progressives had better wake up or they will soon find themselves being escorted to "re-education camps" at the best and I hate to think of what the worst could be. Use your imagination! Civilized Germans in the 1930's could never have imagined what was to become of their nation. Americans share the same naivete.

Posted by: frngy at June 8, 2004 09:37 PM

DOWN WITH FUNDI-PUBLICAN DIXIECRAT CRACKERS!!!!!

Posted by: ledge of liberty at June 8, 2004 09:38 PM

But isn't it true that al Jazeerah informed the Pentagon in advance of the exact coordinates of all their reporters?
**************************************************
Yes and we bombed the station and killed people.
and Al jazeerah had given their coordinates to the military.

Posted by: Miss Anne Thropic at June 8, 2004 09:38 PM

....

Blowing up press office also happens to be a Geneva convention violation.

Posted by: wanda at June 8, 2004 09:38 PM

www.billysheahan.com/vote/

I made this short piece from a speech Reagan gave in October 1980, one week before the November presidential election where he asked "Are you better off now than you were four years ago?" He goes on to ask if you're not happy with the way things are going, then he has another choice for you.

It's really amazing how when you put pictures from the last four years up against it how much of a powerful argument it is against voting for Bush.

It's 4MB and 40 seconds long, so if you have cable or DSL it's a pretty quick download.

Billy
Chicago

Posted by: Billy Sheahan at June 8, 2004 09:38 PM

Well said, frngy

Posted by: opeluboy at June 8, 2004 09:38 PM

Eleven killed in clashes near Falluja

Tuesday 08 June 2004, 21:31 Makka Time, 18:31 GMT

Eleven Iraqis, including women and children, have been killed in clashes between US forces and resistance fighters near the Iraqi flashpoint city of Falluja, hospital sources have said.

continued...
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/838287AC-47FF-46BF-B926-609DAFB1D28B.htm

Posted by: Gregory Wonderwheel at June 8, 2004 09:38 PM

the (our) news said there was an anti aircraft gun on balcany near there

Posted by: vortex at June 8, 2004 09:38 PM

Posted by Argon at June 8, 2004 09:35 PM
------
Argon, thanks for citing the Ted Nace book.

Sam & Janeane, great guest if you can get him!

Gangs of America: The Rise of Corporate Power and the Disabling of Democracy
by Ted Nace

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1576752607/qid=1086745102/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-9624309-1705463?v=glance&s=books

Posted by: Rico at June 8, 2004 09:38 PM

Can anyone here report hearing the words "Iran/Contra" ANYWHERE in the mainstream media Reagan love fest 2004 over the last four days? Anywhere? One single mention?
Posted by: dk at June 8, 2004 09:36 PM

No, and it's bad manners to bring it up you Moveondotorg ultraliberal elitist fancipance

Posted by: reedabook at June 8, 2004 09:39 PM

Those cracker scumbags are busy loving dead reagan. Why don't they wake up and realize alot more is going on.

http://www.infowars.com/print/Bush/reagan_tarpleu.htm

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 09:39 PM

Is Ashleigh Banfield still reporting on TV?

Posted by: Miss Anne Thropic at June 8, 2004 09:39 PM

SAM.......LET the man speak.
jeesh..everybody is screaming and shouting.

Posted by: wanda at June 8, 2004 09:40 PM

Great stuff.....Thanks for giving us the opportunity to listen to the folks from Al-J. Where else in the American media do you get this opportunity. This old man loves you guys!!!

Posted by: RWiley at June 8, 2004 09:40 PM

Janeane is my punk rock patriot goddess!!!!

i love you babe!!!

Posted by: ledge of liberty at June 8, 2004 09:40 PM

//
Those cracker scumbags are busy loving dead reagan
//

Cracker Necrophilez!

Posted by: citizen frolik at June 8, 2004 09:40 PM

Thanks to Greg Palast for saying what needs to be said.

Yep, he said it all in a single paragraph. Whine and cry because he didn't get his way.

I remember as a student in Berkeley the words screeching out of the bullhorn, "The Governor of the State of California, Ronald Reagan, hereby orders this demonstration to disperse" … and then came the teargas and the truncheons. And all the while, that fang-hiding grin from the Gipper.

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 09:40 PM

roflmao you forgot latte drinking

Posted by: kissflubyagoodbye at June 8, 2004 09:40 PM

There was music in the eighties?

Posted by: Crank Bait at June 8, 2004 09:40 PM

Yeah, and NICE how they wiped Saddam's face with the flag.
Ask about the catchy new flag for Iraq.

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 09:40 PM

http://www.noujaimfilms.com/bios.html

Posted by: Miss Anne Thropic at June 8, 2004 09:42 PM

just watch ..at their convention they will say "let's win this for the gipper"

Posted by: kissflubyagoodbye at June 8, 2004 09:42 PM

"Our revenge will be the laughter of our children"

Cool quote, frolik, where's it from?

Posted by: GodsOwnFool at June 8, 2004 09:42 PM

....
STOP giving speech.........ahhhhhhhhhhhHHHHHHHHHH

Posted by: wanda at June 8, 2004 09:42 PM

Sam should do some "celebrity boxing"...

SAM VS G.W.

YES!

Posted by: ledge of liberty at June 8, 2004 09:42 PM

This is so good!!

Posted by: darlenenbc at June 8, 2004 09:42 PM

frngy - "Look these guys are fascists."

Even two months ago I would have said, "fascists? c'mon" Now, I have to agree.

Posted by: Rummy at June 8, 2004 09:43 PM

wow, what a liar, Rummy is

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 09:43 PM

My favorite quote of yours in th film: Yes, you are the biggest military power. Yes, you can destroy anybody you like. We acknowledge that, but don't expect us to love you.

Posted by: Adamo at June 8, 2004 09:43 PM

......yeeech..

Rumsfeld is projecting.

Posted by: wanda at June 8, 2004 09:43 PM

Because, Rummy, we know ALL A-rabs are liars, right?

Posted by: opeluboy at June 8, 2004 09:43 PM

http://www.cpj.org/killed/Ten_Year_Killed/Intro.html

List of dead Journalists

Posted by: Miss Anne Thropic at June 8, 2004 09:43 PM

bombs did hit children....

Posted by: Nobody at June 8, 2004 09:43 PM

Sam you do have your moments..
and when you have them,
you are way too cool
i can see why its you
sitting there

pushing the envelope
that's YOUR job
you're supposed to be
farther left than Janeane

you know you wanna,
and we know you can

i am proud to be on the Sam and Janeane team

are you starting to get the picture?
the organizations are all corrupt

but the people...the people

Hassan Ibrahim and Jehane Noujim
excellent (and important guests)

Who runs Al-Jazeera?...who funds Al-Jazeera?

SAY IT SAM!!!

Posted by: dadalux at June 8, 2004 09:43 PM

did any of you see flubya throw a tantrum on saturday during the press conference with chirac?

Posted by: kissflubyagoodbye at June 8, 2004 09:44 PM

Sam's the Man...

Posted by: ledge of liberty at June 8, 2004 09:44 PM

great american patriot

i got my copy of bushwhacked
at target for $8 paperback

hard to find the books at the library
everyone has them checked out

Posted by: christine at June 8, 2004 09:45 PM

Whaddya say we yak bout sumpin more intrestin then Ronnie tonz a dat stuff upstram dis an de odder bloggz?

"Ronnie free zone please"

Posted by: Shadow Webmaster at June 8, 2004 09:45 PM

http://www.poynter.org/content/content_view.asp?id=28565

Fallen Journalists.

Posted by: Miss Anne Thropic at June 8, 2004 09:45 PM

Can anyone here report hearing the words "Iran/Contra" ANYWHERE in the mainstream media Reagan love fest 2004 over the last four days? Anywhere? One single mention?

No....but Mario Cuomo did a number on the myth of Reagans's economic policies on Lou Dobb's (who let him talk) tonight on CNN.

Posted by: RWiley at June 8, 2004 09:45 PM

Sorry but I cannot hear this man talk. Sounds like mumbles. Would love to be able to hear him.

Posted by: tonid at June 8, 2004 09:45 PM

Can anyone here report hearing the words "Iran/Contra" ANYWHERE in the mainstream media Reagan love fest 2004 over the last four days? Anywhere? One single mention?

******
Yes it was mentioned on NPR's Talk of the Nation today. (If you consider NPR mainstream like I do.) Peter Kornbluh said it very clearly that Reagan was a liar who set up Iran arms for hostages while a candidate before he was even elected.

Here's the blurb on KQED San Francisco:
http://www.kqed.org/radio/

Talk of the Nation with Neal Conan
Reagan and the '80s - In the 1980s, what Ronald Reagan called a "prairie fire" roared across America. And, from invigorated conservatives... to Reagan Democrats... to angry liberals, the Reagan Revolution left few Americans untouched. A look back at the politics, culture and mood of the Reagan debate. Guests include David Gergen, Ronald Reagan's Director of Communications; Richard Viguerie [VIG-uh-ree], author of "America's Right Turn"; and Peter Kornbluh [KORN-bloo], co-editor of "The Iran-Contra Scandal: The Declassified History." Today, 11am

Posted by: Gregory Wonderwheel at June 8, 2004 09:45 PM

If you don't beleive they are fascists check this out. Bev Harris is being harrassed with the Patriot Act.
http://www.seattleweekly.com/features/0420/040519_news_blackboxvoting.php

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 09:45 PM

Testing..testing...testy....

Posted by: Ceres at June 8, 2004 09:45 PM

I personally believe there is no such thing as objective journalism. Do we believe journalists should struggle to be objective, or 'gonzo?'

Posted by: GodsOwnFool at June 8, 2004 09:45 PM

i soooo want janeane to go off on another CRACKER rant...

that was the funniest thing EVER.

Posted by: ledge of liberty at June 8, 2004 09:45 PM

go sam go!

you keep on sayin what you sayin

you are in the groove, baby

Posted by: dadalux at June 8, 2004 09:46 PM

where is April Glaspie now?

Posted by: opeluboy at June 8, 2004 09:46 PM

next time they show the Saddam statue fall on TV

check it out - very few people are involved in the event - and they are not even that excited.
It's a scam.

Posted by: bridge at June 8, 2004 09:46 PM

Bush and Cheney both went to Yale
Bush got his degree there in 1968
Cheney left Yale without getting his degree.
Now the question I have for you is which of these two
is more intelligent?
My gut feeling is that Cheney looks smarter, but my intellect causes me to say that Cheney is not as smart as he looks.

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 09:46 PM

your cookin good show

Posted by: vortex at June 8, 2004 09:46 PM

Nice Billy , thanks!

Posted by: terry wilke at June 8, 2004 09:46 PM

My God I get so pissed that the world knows how insane this administration is including the Pope, and it's bidness as usual

Posted by: Janet at June 8, 2004 09:47 PM

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at June 8, 2004 09:47 PM

I am sooo Gay for Sam...

Posted by: ledge of liberty at June 8, 2004 09:47 PM

Ashcroft won't give Congress memos on torture

By SHANNON MCCAFFREY

Posted on Tue, Jun. 08, 2004

Knight Ridder Newspapers

WASHINGTON - Attorney General John Ashcroft flatly refused requests from Congressional Democrats on Tuesday to turn over memos that reportedly justified the use of torture in some instances against terrorists.

"This administration rejects torture," Ashcroft told lawmakers.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/politics/8872653.htm?1c

Posted by: Rico at June 8, 2004 09:47 PM

Is this blog really moving slowly, or is it just me?

Posted by: opeluboy at June 8, 2004 09:47 PM

>>did any of you see flubya throw a tantrum on saturday during the press conference with chirac?<<

No. What happened?

Posted by: dan at June 8, 2004 09:48 PM

Don't count on the mainstream media to educate the populace on the threat of a one party new fascist politique. The mainstream media is not the solution but part of the problem. They will easily slide deeper into the role of corporate propagandists for the ruling elite because it will only improve their "bottom line", the "raison d'etre" for a capitalist society and culture. Rising Up Angry!

Posted by: frngy at June 8, 2004 09:48 PM

Posted by: Dr. Zimmerman Robert at June 8, 2004 09:48 PM

There was a brief mention of Iran Contra when he died on NPR but it hasn't been a big deal -- anyways, this is a key fight -- I blogged on what Atrios reported on this afternoon at http://loganslurch.blogspot.com/2004_06_01_loganslurch_archive.html#108672432837058902

It has a link to a ridiculous article and an e-mail where you can write this idiot from Cincinatti

Posted by: Tim from Ohio at June 8, 2004 09:48 PM

he didnt like a question from a french reporter so he yanked out his earpiece and threw it down..went into a quote from kennedy about there is american and then there is texas..i was hoping to catch it again later on cspan but rr died so they didnt replay it

Posted by: kissflubyagoodbye at June 8, 2004 09:49 PM

Did you know that our taxes are paying for FOX news in Iraq, CNN turned in down said it wasn't ethical

Posted by: Janet at June 8, 2004 09:50 PM

Billy in Chicago

glad to hear you're finally getting summer. i've been gone two years and the weather is about the ONLY thing i don't miss!

Posted by: clueless in VirginiaBeach at June 8, 2004 09:50 PM

It doesn't take intellect to work the system. I've seen some people on welfare work the system to the fullest.

Posted by: tonid at June 8, 2004 09:50 PM

ribbon snake

Posted by: citizen frolik at June 8, 2004 09:50 PM

I neeeeeeed to see this!

Posted by: ledge of liberty at June 8, 2004 09:51 PM

COME ON, Sam!

What's the big deal with the two names of your two guests: Jehane Noujim and Hassan Ibrahim
Learn to pronounce them properly, please.

Posted by: bridge at June 8, 2004 09:51 PM

did miss how many reporters were killed in all

Posted by: vortex at June 8, 2004 09:51 PM

>>Bush and Cheney both went to Yale
Bush got his degree there in 1968
Cheney left Yale without getting his degree.
Now the question I have for you is which of these two
is more intelligent?<<

More intelligent than what? Bush was not a steelar student. Described by professors as uninspired and unwilling to address points of view other than his own which was very simplistic. There is something at Yale called the "gentleman's C" of which Bush was a master.

Posted by: dan at June 8, 2004 09:51 PM

Where can we find footage? i'll put it on my blog...

Posted by: ledge of liberty at June 8, 2004 09:51 PM

Well, our tax dollars pay for Rush, so why not Fox news?

Posted by: clueless in VirginiaBeach at June 8, 2004 09:51 PM

i wish jon stewart would get a copy of the tape and play it on his moment of zen

Posted by: kissflubyagoodbye at June 8, 2004 09:52 PM

wow ! lyres!

Posted by: citizen frolik at June 8, 2004 09:52 PM

objective, or 'gonzo?'

Neither, because both.

Being objective means being clear to the reader what your perspective is, not in having no perspective.

Posted by: Gregory Wonderwheel at June 8, 2004 09:52 PM

"It doesn't take intellect to work the system. I've seen some people on welfare work the system to the fullest."

You set for a long fight? I'm game [scowls]

Posted by: Nobody at June 8, 2004 09:52 PM

>>Bush and Cheney both went to Yale
Bush got his degree there in 1968
Cheney left Yale without getting his degree.
Now the question I have for you is which of these two
is more intelligent?<<

Posted by: dan at June 8, 2004 09:52 PM

hahahahahha

good show!

Posted by: dadalux at June 8, 2004 09:52 PM

Consider turning off your TV's. You will be amazed at how crazy it looks after not watching it for a week. When you do finally see it after not seeing it you can see right though the lies.
It's great! Your mind becomes quite.

Posted by: Miss Anne Thropic at June 8, 2004 09:52 PM

This is the best show yet!!

Posted by: darlenenbc at June 8, 2004 09:52 PM

Is this blog really moving slowly, or is it just me?

Posted by: opeluboy at June 8, 2004 09:47 PM

VERY SLOW FOR ME...i can only imagine dial up.

Posted by: clueless in VirginiaBeach at June 8, 2004 09:52 PM

maybe on cspan website? i havent checked there

Posted by: kissflubyagoodbye at June 8, 2004 09:52 PM

I read the transcript of the press conference in France.

Apparently the French press didn't receive the memo from Rove.

Posted by: Crank Bait at June 8, 2004 09:53 PM

okay--try hitting post and then F5 right after.

Posted by: clueless in VirginiaBeach at June 8, 2004 09:53 PM

This is soooo true...it's CRAZY

Posted by: ledge of liberty at June 8, 2004 09:53 PM

Posted by Fed up at June 8, 2004 09:13 PM

Strange.....I read of these problems. But I am a regular listener and my computer feed has be reliable and trouble free.

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 09:54 PM

okay--try hitting post and then F5 right after. it's faster that way.

Posted by: clueless in VirginiaBeach at June 8, 2004 09:54 PM

Blog is on back up server I believe...still working on roll out of new blog...call this new blog beta and you'd be correct.

Posted by: Nobody at June 8, 2004 09:54 PM

Posted by Fed up at June 8, 2004 09:13 PM

Strange.....I read of these problems. But I am a regular listener and my computer feed has be reliable and trouble free.
************************************************
ME too!

Posted by: Miss Anne Thropic at June 8, 2004 09:54 PM

and then there was that awful moment when, in the midst of all that carnage, all the US and Brit reporters kept going on could was the outrage of the "playing card tease." Bloody hacks.

Posted by: Adamo at June 8, 2004 09:55 PM

Heard Neil Conan on NPR today discussing the Reagan "legacy." He gushed to the point that I was going to call in and ask if he creamed his pants. NPR is centrist right at best. Rarely do you hear progressives on this quasi-government media network. I have ceased contributing and am encouraging all my progressive friends to do likewise. Fuck NPR.

Posted by: frngy at June 8, 2004 09:55 PM

>>Lost another listener. (I mean, I'm sure I'm not the only one.) <<

Bye Bye! Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

Posted by: dan at June 8, 2004 09:56 PM

Well, the press sees themselves as individuals who are in competition with each other and not as a collective.

Posted by: Tim from Ohio at June 8, 2004 09:56 PM

fear, that's what they do BEST

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 09:56 PM

Sorry but I cannot hear this man talk. Sounds like mumbles. Would love to be able to hear him.

Posted by: tonid at June 8, 2004 09:45 PM

It's because his voice is so bass. The tech guy needs to do something to compensate if possible.

Posted by: Gregory Wonderwheel at June 8, 2004 09:56 PM

the link on this blog has trailer for film

Posted by: vortex at June 8, 2004 09:56 PM

This Administration is no better than China and it's censorship

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 09:56 PM

Oh Shi*! this is a great Drop Bush Not Bombs T-shirt! I wonder who made and sells this?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=39721&item=3915484546&tc=photo

Posted by: James at June 8, 2004 09:57 PM

No problems here!

Posted by: darlenenbc at June 8, 2004 09:57 PM

Fascism in america is like an artificial sweetner...

fascism posing as democracy...

Posted by: ledge of liberty at June 8, 2004 09:58 PM

Still, today, Journalists are cowards, and wont ask any real questions

Posted by: Roxy66 at June 8, 2004 09:58 PM

http://www.southlandtales.com/index.html

Posted by: roy at June 8, 2004 09:58 PM

our reporters inbedwith there sick

Posted by: vortex at June 8, 2004 09:58 PM

"The War Media". Hit it right on the head didn't he.

Posted by: dharmabum at June 8, 2004 09:58 PM

reporters used to re-ask the last reporter's questions in order to get answers...

but now with big brother reporters..they don't hold up there end so it doesn't work...

so the opposite of a "union" is what's in effect...

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 09:58 PM

It closed at the Film Forum tonight.

Posted by: Adamo at June 8, 2004 09:58 PM

>>Just curious: Who here is a member of MoveOn.org?<<

I just donated an hour ago. Does that make me a member, or do I still need to join?

cathy in seattle

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 09:58 PM

Oh White Witch - your name shows up UNDER your post. UNDER the gray line. UNDER THE GRAY LINE.... UNDER your post! Got it now? Hugs. ;)

Posted by: Gay boi Charlie at June 8, 2004 09:59 PM

have any of you noticed that the most pro war journalists were the ones who received anthrax letters?

Posted by: kissflubyagoodbye at June 8, 2004 09:59 PM

after you click on post
Hit F5 and it should load immediately.

Posted by: darlenenbc at June 8, 2004 09:59 PM

"I have ceased contributing and am encouraging all my progressive friends to do likewise. Fuck NPR.
Posted by frngy at June 8, 2004 09:55 PM"

Too right. I also hear that NPR is deeply concerned about the advent of AAR. And well they should be -- the progressive listeners that used to be NPR's bread-and-butter supporters are all over here, buying Dr. Scholl's gel insoles and getting their haircuts at SuperCuts, etc.!

Fuck NPR indeed. Go AAR!!

:-)

Posted by: DrDan in MA at June 8, 2004 09:59 PM

Posted by Fed up at June 8, 2004 09:13 PM

Strange.....I read of these problems. But I am a regular listener and my computer feed has be reliable and trouble free.
***********
i've never had any of these problems either.

Posted by: clueless in VirginiaBeach at June 8, 2004 09:59 PM

"have any of you noticed that the most pro war journalists were the ones who received anthrax letters?"

Actually to a man it was the left wingers that were targetted.

Posted by: Nobody at June 8, 2004 10:00 PM

Reporters are prostitutes.

They will be the downfall of this country-all because they don't have the balls (or ovaries) to speak truth to power.

Posted by: Rico at June 8, 2004 10:00 PM

I just donated an hour ago. Does that make me a member, or do I still need to join?

cathy in seattle

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 09:58 PM

You can't join Cathy unless you first cheer for a dead Reagan

Posted by: reedabook at June 8, 2004 10:00 PM

Being objective means being clear to the reader what your perspective is, not in having no perspective.

wonderwheel
------

but when someone claims to be objective

they may have an objective

a left wing perspective can serve a right wing agenda

no perspective can serve an agenda too

the reader needs to learn to read between the lies,er,lines
you must use your x-ray vision,superman

Posted by: dadalux at June 8, 2004 10:00 PM

Being objective means being clear to the reader what your perspective is, not in having no perspective.

Unless I need to get a new dictionary, it means not depending on, or influenced by, personal opinions. I think you mean HAVING an objective, as opposed to BEING objective.

Posted by: GodsOwnFool at June 8, 2004 10:00 PM

whoa Ray yyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

eyes startin to hurt here bud

grey back de shitz
fer us ol phartz
bad eyes, also
need more contrast
on alla de posts folks

Posted by: Sunshine Jim at June 8, 2004 10:00 PM

Thank you for making the point about Rumsfelds projection...it has been so obvious and I am glad to dear others see it too. I like the way Chopra puts it; “..whatever you do not like about others is what you have to make peace with in yourself “ ...Good show Garofalo ..and Sam!

Posted by: Chris at June 8, 2004 10:00 PM

How do you'll keep up with reading all this, hitting refresh; and still listen to the show?

Posted by: Vyd at June 8, 2004 10:01 PM

Sam...

if you're ever feeling under appreciated and need a stalker to give your ego that extra little boost...

i'm your man!!

just say the word, and i'm there for ya.

Posted by: ledge of liberty at June 8, 2004 10:01 PM

Thanks for the blog help, guys.

Posted by: opeluboy at June 8, 2004 10:02 PM

reporters used to re-ask the last reporter's questions in order to get answers...

but now with big brother reporters..they don't hold up there end so it doesn't work...

so the opposite of a "union" is what's in effect...

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 09:58 PM

United we stand divided we fall.

Posted by: terry wilke at June 8, 2004 10:02 PM

Of course after getting anthrax letters might change ones mind about which side you reported....

Posted by: Nobody at June 8, 2004 10:02 PM

Do it the Rumsfeld way.

Hit post with B-1.

Posted by: Crank Bait at June 8, 2004 10:02 PM

http://www.southlandtales.com/index.html

Posted by: roy at June 8, 2004 10:03 PM

it's easy.. liberals can walk and chew gum and think at the same time

Posted by: kissflubyagoodbye at June 8, 2004 10:03 PM

need a book list and links on MR main page

Posted by: vortex at June 8, 2004 10:03 PM

I read the transcript of the press conference in France.
Apparently the French press didn't receive the memo from Rove.
Posted by: Crank Bait at June 8, 2004 09:53 PM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
A link to this Mr. Bait? I've been searching since Saturday.

Posted by: KAS at June 8, 2004 10:04 PM

maybe, before michael moore's movie comes to theaters (june 25th), those who have seen it could produce information resource lists to hand out at screenings for those are intoduced to the hard facts by the film. to expand on the topics of the film.

Posted by: christine at June 8, 2004 10:04 PM

Sam...if you're ever feeling under appreciated and need a stalker to give your ego that extra little boost...i'm your man!!
just say the word, and i'm there for ya.
Posted by ledge of liberty at June 8, 2004 10:01 PM<<

Stalker for hire. Special rate for minor celebrity who needs ego boosting.

heh heh...

Posted by: wanda at June 8, 2004 10:04 PM

HOLY SMOKES! An ad for Local 802! My husband is a member!

Posted by: Proud Union Wife at June 8, 2004 10:04 PM

Book a musician from Musician's Union #802 for your next Bar-Mitzvah...

Posted by: Rico at June 8, 2004 10:04 PM

Special discounted rates indeed!!!

Posted by: ledge of liberty at June 8, 2004 10:05 PM

Posted by: Miss Anne Thropic at June 8, 2004 09:52 PM

Since I started listening to AAR, I hardly ever watch tv. and i was soooo addicted! i can only watch a couple of shows a week now. i can't even stand CNN. The whole sham on tv makes me sick. it's so funny you posted that tonite cuz i was just thinking about it earlier.

Posted by: clueless in VirginiaBeach at June 8, 2004 10:06 PM

i checked the cspan website ...no video from the press conference in france...hey aar can u get it from cspan or cnn

Posted by: kissflubyagoodbye at June 8, 2004 10:06 PM

HOLY SMOKES! An ad for Local 802! My husband is a member!

Posted by: Proud Union Wife at June 8, 2004 10:04 PM
------
What's he play?

Posted by: Rico at June 8, 2004 10:06 PM

going to try f5 darlene

Posted by: cathy in seattle at June 8, 2004 10:06 PM

i checked the cspan website ...no video from the press conference in france...hey aar can u get it from cspan or cnn
=================

WE NEED this footage!

Posted by: ledge of liberty at June 8, 2004 10:06 PM

Fuckin a the smiths!

Posted by: Tim from Ohio at June 8, 2004 10:06 PM

need a book list and links on MR main page

Posted by vortex at June 8, 2004 10:03 PM

http://www.airamericaplace.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1357

Here is this one I would like one on the main page too.

Posted by: darlenenbc at June 8, 2004 10:07 PM

yea the transcript isnt good enuf...you need the video to see flubya acting like a child

Posted by: kissflubyagoodbye at June 8, 2004 10:08 PM

YEA BILL...ok I'm done now...carry on.

Posted by: Nobody at June 8, 2004 10:08 PM

Kas,
Not certain where I picked it up (transcript of press conference in France).

May have been www.buzzflash.com.

Where ever I read it, it must be out there on Google?

Posted by: Crank Bait at June 8, 2004 10:08 PM

New blog!!!

Posted by: Rico at June 8, 2004 10:08 PM

It's weird how it works. I was a loyal tv watcher my whole life. Then one day Diane Sawyer said now the news on the Bachlorette! Something clicked inside of my brain and I turned it off. I ask my family to choose between Internet and TV. They picked Internet. We have had no TV for a YEAR!!! Don't miss it. It fact I loath it now!!!

Posted by: Miss Anne Thropic at June 8, 2004 10:08 PM

f5 works great when posting!

Posted by: christine at June 8, 2004 10:08 PM

THE MEMO is already leaked on the net!

Download here. (but be gentle not to crash the server)
http://www.isthatlegal.org/mil_torture.pdf

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Posted by: wanda at June 8, 2004 10:08 PM

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Secretary of State!!
Or V.P>

Posted by: Roxy66 at June 8, 2004 10:09 PM

I would encourage all liberals, Democrats, progressives, radicals et. al. to call their local NPR radio stations to voice their displeasure at the obvious right wing slant of their coverage. They have been so "cowed" by the right's mantra of "liberal bias" that they have become nothing more than shills for govenment propagandists. Would love to see Neil Conan, Nina Totenburg et. al. in the unemployment line. Maybe then they would develop a solidarity with the "people." FUCK NPR!

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Posted by: Sunshine Jim at June 8, 2004 10:09 PM

this is fabulous...my tv remains OFF.

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The site Sam is talking about.
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more
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Posted by: wanda at June 8, 2004 10:11 PM

More than 12,000 people’s lives since 1995 could have been saved if they had been wearing seat belts, according to a study by the National Safety Council. In that year, The National Transportation Safety Board recommended that states enact primary mandatory seat belt laws but so far only 20 states have done so, and the NTSB is reiterating its call.
"A primary seat belt law is likely to save more lives than possibly any single piece of legislation a state will consider," said NTSB Chairman Ellen G. Engleman. "It is why the Safety Board recommended states adopt these laws in 1995, and why we continue to urge enactment of these laws as a safety priority.”

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Posted by: terry wilke at June 8, 2004 10:15 PM

Mainstream press hasn't mentioned the words "James Brady" in the last 4 days either. I have seen multiple reports on Buckwheat, i mean, Reagan being shot but nothing on Jim Brady. How very sad.

Posted by: dk at June 8, 2004 10:16 PM

I would encourage all liberals, progressives, Democrats, radicals etc. to call their local NPR stations to voice their displeasure at the right leaning slant of their national and international coverage. It would seem that they have become "cowed" by the rights mantra of "liberal" bias and have consequently moved far to the right to prove them wrong. Would love to see Neil Conan, Nina Totenburg et. al. in the unemployement line. Maybe then they would learn the meaning of serving the "people." FUCK NPR!

Posted by: at June 8, 2004 10:19 PM

This following exchange between Bill Moyers and Joseph Campbell on the Moyers’ program “The Power of Myth” is very informative about the Christian right’s view of “the Rapture.”

Campbell’s words made it clear to me that the Christians who take the Bible literally and believe in a literal rapture to come at “the end of days” are people who can’t relate to religion in the present because they are unable to feel the rapture in their current life.

Bill Moyers: So, myths are stories of the search by men and women through the ages for meaning, for significance, to make life signify, to touch the eternal, to understand mysteries, to find out who we are?

Joseph Campbell: People say that what we’re all seeking is a meaning for life. I don’t think that’s what we are really seeking. I think that what we’re seeking is an experience of being alive. So that the life experiences that we have on the purely physical plane will have resonances within that are those on our own innermost being and reality. and so that we actually feel the rapture of being alive. That’s what it’s all finally about. And that’s what these clues help us to find within ourselves.

Posted by: Gregory Wonderwheel at June 8, 2004 10:22 PM

Tell it like it is:

Reagan the torturer!

Posted by: Gregory Wonderwheel at June 8, 2004 10:26 PM

Desensitation, get the American population used to the idea of torture and eventually it can be used on Americans. Iraq has been a training center.

Posted by: Dan Richeson at June 8, 2004 10:43 PM

In case you missed this one last Friday:

Bush's Erratic Behavior Worries White House Aides
By DOUG THOMPSON
Publisher, Capitol Hill Blue
Jun 4, 2004, 06:15

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4636.shtml

President George W. Bush’s increasingly erratic behavior and wide mood swings has the halls of the West Wing buzzing lately as aides privately express growing concern over their leader’s state of mind.
In meetings with top aides and administration officials, the President goes from quoting the Bible in one breath to obscene tantrums against the media, Democrats and others that he classifies as “enemies of the state.”

continued....

Posted by: Gregory Wonderwheel at June 8, 2004 10:55 PM

THANK YOU SAM!

A lot of work on Kerry will be especially needed.

Air America will have to prove its meddle with a Kerry Presidency. Whether liberals will be able to criticize Kerry's imperialism will be the proof of the pudding.

Posted by: Gregory Wonderwheel at June 8, 2004 10:58 PM

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