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May 27, 2004
hour one
Peter Phillips of Project Censored
check out IndyMedia.org
Book Peter Phillips suggests The New Pearl Harbor
Later
Sheldon Rampton of PR Watch, co-author of Banana Republicans
then
Ellen Mariani 9/11 widow and her atty.Phil Berg they're suing the Bush Administration for her husband's death
read mailer's armies of the night
Women In Black protest in NYC
Posted by majority at May 27, 2004 08:02 PM
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Posted by: MajorityChatter at May 27, 2004 08:02 PM
Pending Draft Legislation Targeted for Spring 2005
The Draft will Start in June 2005
There is pending legislation in the House and Senate (twin bills: S 89 and HR 163) which will time the program's initiation so the draft can begin at early as Spring 2005 -- just after the 2004 presidential election. The administration is quietly trying to get these bills passed now, while the public's attention is on the elections, so our action on this is needed immediately.
Dodging the draft will be more difficult than those from the Vietnam era. College and Canada will not be options. In December 2001, Canada and the U.S. signed a "smart border declaration," which could be used to keep would-be draft dodgers in. Signed by Canada's minister of foreign affairs, John Manley, and U.S. Homeland Security director, Tom Ridge
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/issues/alert/?alertid=5834001&content_dir=ua_congressorg
or
http://tinyurl.com/35vh5
Posted by: Head's Up at May 27, 2004 08:03 PM
first
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at May 27, 2004 08:03 PM
Before we begin, try this:
Left brain, right brain. While sitting at your computer, lift your right
foot off the floor and make clockwise circles. Now, while doing this,
draw the number "6" in the air with your right hand. Your foot will
change direction and there's nothing you can do about it.
Posted by: bowery at May 27, 2004 08:03 PM
Yo,
Signing in for the evening.
Posted by: LeftistIndependent at May 27, 2004 08:03 PM
First - In troll repellant, I mean...
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at May 27, 2004 08:03 PM
bush rules
Posted by: at May 27, 2004 08:04 PM
WHOO HOO!!! Blog page 200.
Let's keep 'em coming.
Posted by: ITBearMI at May 27, 2004 08:04 PM
Nixon too drunk for global affairs
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/26/kissinger.tapes.ap/index.html
from http://daily.rotten.com/ -this site has the best news stories...
btw the new documents released also provide more evidence for complicity in the 9/11 1973 Chile coup:
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0527-01.htm
wow, following some links from there i found AAR's Lizz Winstead interview... she seems to think that killing 2 million cambodians might qualify as a war crime:
REPORTER: So did that disappoint you, when Jon Stewart was nice to Kissinger?
WINSTEAD: I don't mean that you would necessarily need to grill Kissinger. But to let it go...
REPORTER: So you should jokingly say, "Say, Dr. Kissinger, what about those 2 million dead Cambodians...?"
WINSTEAD: Exactly! As a way to say something. To me, it seems like the elephant in the room.
from: http://www.rotten.com/library/culture/daily-show/
Posted by: parabola at May 27, 2004 08:04 PM
This draft bill is sponsored by the Dems -Sen Hollings and Charlie Rangel
Posted by: War Dog at May 27, 2004 08:05 PM
Verbal advantage -
HERBAL advantage
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at May 27, 2004 08:05 PM
The draft?
Didn't people learn from Vietnam?
Posted by: LeftistIndependent at May 27, 2004 08:06 PM
*here*
Benchmark: MR blog at thread # 200!
That's about a gazillion words.
WOOOOO HOOOOO
Posted by: Liberal-at-large at May 27, 2004 08:06 PM
Talk to Charlie about the draft...!
Posted by: War Dog at May 27, 2004 08:06 PM
they'll be no draft.
doesn't serve the ruling class.
Posted by: bowery at May 27, 2004 08:07 PM
Sam And Janeane--
You know what I am really pissed off at? I'm pissed off at an Attorney General who tells us we are definitely going to be attacked big this summer yet the Secretary of Homeland Security says that my duty as a American in the face of this is to "enjoy living in this great country" and to "go out and have some fun." What the hell does that mean?
It means one or all of the following"
1. The threats are not actually real and as the pattern has been, the level of panic is racheted up when things aren't going well for the administration.
2. the threats are real but they don't want us to stop spending money.
3. they are creating a pretext to ban public protest.
4. they are preparing the conditions to institute martial law so that Bush won't have to leave the White House.
Please talk about at least one of thease issues.
Posted by: dan at May 27, 2004 08:07 PM
SAM,
In your Oasis column today, you wrote this:
"Kerry needn’t risk taking a supposed politically expedient position on Iraq."
The Los Angeles Times has reported (with a definite lean) that Democratic groups and Liberals led by "Win Without War", a coalition of groups which includes Moveon.org and a host of other mainstream organizations, has come out with an at least somewhat differing opinion.
List of orgs in WWW coalition(42 of them):
http://www.winwithoutwarus.org/html/coalition.html
Anyway, any chance on having somebody on MR from Win Without War, Moveon.org or other WWW coalition members to have a look at their reasoning?
Thanks
Oh, and good column at the Oasis. I'm not saying I disagree. Either that I do disagree and I'm just not saying it.
Fishgrease
Posted by: Fishgrease at May 27, 2004 08:07 PM
You guys have GOT to get a new announcement... "The Maaaajjooorrrriiittttyyyy Reeeeppooooorrrrt" sounds lame.
Other than that, the show is great.
Posted by: airhead at May 27, 2004 08:08 PM
thanks for having the cojones, the juevos, if you will, to have ellen mariani on your show!
is she crazy? does she know her stuff? how's the suit going? you guys rock!
Posted by: jojo at May 27, 2004 08:08 PM
Janeane--
Exit 10 rocks!
Posted by: dan at May 27, 2004 08:08 PM
First time I heard the Verbal Advantage ad, I thought it was a joke about Bush.
Posted by: mpower1952 at May 27, 2004 08:08 PM
""""""""""""""""""It means one or all of the following"
1. The threats are not actually real and as the pattern has been, the level of panic is racheted up when things aren't going well for the administration.
2. the threats are real but they don't want us to stop spending money.
3. they are creating a pretext to ban public protest.
4. they are preparing the conditions to institute martial law so that Bush won't have to leave the White House.
Please talk about at least one of thease issues.
Posted by dan at May 27, 2004 08:07 PM
""""""""""""""""""""""
absolutely. good post.
Posted by: bowery at May 27, 2004 08:09 PM
The library is a good place for books
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at May 27, 2004 08:10 PM
Treatments for the seizures from Wernicke-Korsakoff-Syndrome.
Treating Seizures. Seizures are usually self-limited and treated with a benzodiazepine. Intravenous phenytoin (Dilantin) along with a benzodiazepine may be used in patients who have a history of seizures or in those whose seizures cannot be controlled.
Dilantin is also used for the treatment of schizophrenics as well as for Korsakoff syndrome. This would explain G.W. Bush being so "drugged" in appearance at some press conferences.
Posted by: charlie at May 27, 2004 08:10 PM
--You guys have GOT to get a new announcement... "The Maaaajjooorrrriiittttyyyy Reeeeppooooorrrrt" sounds lame.--
I agree. After all, they are representing the MINORITY party in power and it shall remain.
Posted by: at May 27, 2004 08:10 PM
lol. "first!" you guys are like 1st graders that wanna be first in line or something ;)
Anyway, looks like a good show tonight. Project Censored guy. That's a good site. I heard an interview with Ellen Mariani a while back. Bless that woman for standing up for what she believes in.
The draft. Ugh. Screw the draft and any idiots from whatever party decides to push it. Watch them both "come together" and say we need it if something bad happens again here in the USA.
Posted by: JJ at May 27, 2004 08:11 PM
"The whole world is watching, the whole world is watching, the whole world is watching!"
Posted by: beat_the_chimp at May 27, 2004 08:11 PM
you guys heard that two of the suspects they annoucned yesterday were already in jail, right? and thatthe organization they're talking about doesn't really exist?
the threat warnings were all about diverting memorial day bar-b-q conversation away from abu g and bush's screw ups.
Posted by: jojo at May 27, 2004 08:11 PM
Posted by I'm goody and I approve this message at May 27, 2004 08:10 PM
The library is a great place for books, but its also a good place for Big Brother to find out what someone is reading under the Patriot Act.
Posted by: LeftistIndependent at May 27, 2004 08:11 PM
In these litigious times, Asscroft is covering his ass. Avoiding a 'we told ya so' moment.
More like cryin' wolf ta me.
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at May 27, 2004 08:11 PM
Bush has butchered the english language very well
Posted by: World as Will at May 27, 2004 08:12 PM
Janeane:
Exit 5B GSP, homie!
See ya in Wildwood, my Hottie.
Posted by: Liberal-at-large at May 27, 2004 08:12 PM
I love my library. Come get me, Big Bro
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at May 27, 2004 08:13 PM
janeane, sam, thank you thank you thank you!
thank you so much for even mentioning the 8
attached to the truth of dave dellinger.
People who keep printing "chicago 7" are really
pissing me off.
It's the same violence to art and history that
Dante was quoting Thomas Aquinas about in
his Inferno when he said that those who hurt
art and history have a special place in hell
secured for them.
So that's almost the entire troops of the
corporate media are making themselves a bigger
and bigger tube to get stuffed into when they
keep removing bobby seale from their accounts
of that court case.
Posted by: marco at May 27, 2004 08:13 PM
"Docs are still spending a lot of time writing things on paper. And sometimes it's difficult to read their handwriting," Bush told an audience at Vanderbilt University in the election battleground state of Tennessee
Posted by: did ya get any on ya? at May 27, 2004 08:14 PM
Bush has slaughtered 10,000 innocent people in Iraq.
Posted by: at May 27, 2004 08:14 PM
Bush molested a Goat.
Posted by: wanda at May 27, 2004 08:14 PM
Good opening
way to go J&S!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at May 27, 2004 08:14 PM
Props to all my jersey homies.
I'm living in western pa now and i can't get pork roll anymore.
Posted by: dan at May 27, 2004 08:14 PM
You should get Norman Mailer on the show. Now *that* would be good radio!
Posted by: mlb at May 27, 2004 08:14 PM
I believe it was the Chicago Eight and then Bobby Seale's case was seperated from them leaving seven. Besides David Dellinger and Abby Hoffman, the other of the seven were: Tom Hayden, Rennie Davis, John R. Froines, Jerry Rubin and Lee Weiner.
(Is that seven? Did I forget someone?)
Tom Hayden would be a great guest for The Majority Report.
Posted by: Jake at May 27, 2004 08:15 PM
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks that intro is kind of silly.
About the latest terrorists alerts, is it true that two of them are already locked up, NY and LA said they weren't aware of any increased threat, and the White House says they didn't hear of any "increased chatter"? lol.
http://www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/may2004/052704wantedlist.htm
If it's true, how about we fire John Ashcroft? And any of the other idiots behind yesterdays fearmongering.
Posted by: JJ at May 27, 2004 08:15 PM
"Abu-graeeeb"
Posted by: Kim Delgado at May 27, 2004 08:15 PM
Heard on NPR: the administration has quietly let Ashcroft know that he doesn't have to wait until after the election to resign (as he is rumored to be planning). They will be happy to let mr. happy leave this summer, and take that albatross with him.
Posted by: nmark at May 27, 2004 08:15 PM
SAM and Janeane
If you wanna read a good book. Read George Orwell's 1984. Or listen to the NBC University theater production, radio broadcasts from 1949 starring David Nivin.
Posted by: Patriot at May 27, 2004 08:15 PM
Who's up for pork roll on a hard roll and a cold beer?
Posted by: dan at May 27, 2004 08:15 PM
Build a School and put prisioners in it?????
Posted by: War Dog at May 27, 2004 08:16 PM
1984 is one of the best books ever written.
Posted by: LeftistIndependent at May 27, 2004 08:16 PM
Prison Haiku
Abu Gharba
Abu Grobba Abu Bub
Sumthin' bout apples
Posted by: Bjorn at May 27, 2004 08:16 PM
Props to Dave Dellinger-he was a great example of a pacifist who was on fire with heart and passion.
Posted by: Rico at May 27, 2004 08:16 PM
Tear it down and build a housing development there. Sorta like the Amityville horror.
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at May 27, 2004 08:16 PM
The draft is coming folks. What kind of draft depends on who pens it. A fair draft where everyone serves? Or a republican draft where only the poor and those without powerful connections serve? If Bush is elected, there WILL be a draft in '05.
Posted by: Darrell at May 27, 2004 08:17 PM
>>Heard on NPR: the administration has quietly let Ashcroft know that he doesn't have to wait until after the election to resign (as he is rumored to be planning). They will be happy to let mr. happy leave this summer, and take that albatross with him.<<
The entire administration is going down the tube fast.
Posted by: wanda at May 27, 2004 08:17 PM
George Bush is the only man I know who could dig a hole and not have enough dirt to fill it back in..........
Posted by: RWiley at May 27, 2004 08:17 PM
A Democrat draft....!
Posted by: War Dog at May 27, 2004 08:17 PM
Dave Dellinger, along with Lee Weiner, John Froines, Abbie Hoffman, Rennie Davis, Jerry Rubin, Tom Hayden were tried and eventually released as THE CHICAGO SEVEN for disrupting the democratic convention in 1968.
Dave helped organize the biggest peace and civil disobedience demonstrations in the 60's and 70's.
Most of the others are already gone.
God bless all of you...............
Posted by: bowery at May 27, 2004 08:18 PM
lol.
Good job guys, the opening was pretty funny.
Posted by: wanda at May 27, 2004 08:18 PM
I really think a great Kerry campaign ad would be for a Bush Look-A-Like to go to the ATM machine beginning at Day One of his presidency and track every withdrawal from Congress's bank account to track all of the waste he has withdrawn. Then, when the review of all of his debt has been totaled up, he can hang around the corner begging kindergarteners and first graders for money to pay the bank bank.
Posted by: quaeverhinge at May 27, 2004 08:18 PM
Man, this show and others on Air America needs some opposing opinions to liven it up abit. It's boring hearing guests that only agree with the hosts. Get me some Neo-Cons, Pro-Lifers, Fundamentalists and others people!
Posted by: The Nuclear Marine at May 27, 2004 08:18 PM
I don't care if its republicans or democrats are pushing the draft. The draft is wrong no matter who is supporting it.
Posted by: LeftistIndependent at May 27, 2004 08:19 PM
6 and right twirl ez
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at May 27, 2004 08:19 PM
Abu-Galooley...Abu-GorillaMagilla....Abu-Gumby...Abu-Kajagoogoo....I got the 'Abu', its that second part that's a pisser...Abu-GungaDin.....Abu-Gumpster.......Abu......
Posted by: GWBurninTheMidnightOilBush at May 27, 2004 08:19 PM
I wanted to slap Chris Matthews for going on about the stupid poll claiming that people like Bush because they'd rather go to a barbeque with him than with John Kerry. People must be completely idiotic. I've got loads of friends who are great fun to hang out with and go to barbeques and crawfish boils with, but I wouldn't put them in charge of diddly or squat. If the American people put that dipwad back in the Oval Office, they deserve all the misery he'll inflict on them. It's too bad we have to suffer with their stupid keisters too.
Posted by: NOLAWitch at May 27, 2004 08:19 PM
Anybody have a link to the complete audio of Gore's speech? Boy was on fire! Maybe if he would have talked like that four years ago he;d be president now.
Posted by: dan at May 27, 2004 08:19 PM
There are gonna be so fuckin' many protesters in NYC it's gonna make people forget what Chicago looked like.
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at May 27, 2004 08:20 PM
WAR IS PEACE
Posted by: at May 27, 2004 08:20 PM
Well, if I'm on the draft board, draftee numero uno will be George W Bush, Dedicated Bad Apple with guard duty in Antarktis.
"How 'bout Them apples Mr.Polar Bear"
Posted by: Bjorn at May 27, 2004 08:20 PM
~~~ It's boring hearing guests that only agree with the hosts. ~~~
You weren't here last night eh?
Complaining before you even listen?
Posted by: Fishgrease at May 27, 2004 08:20 PM
The vote Rep and you get no draft!
Vote Dem - get ready for boot camp!
Posted by: War Dog at May 27, 2004 08:20 PM
>>> dan
sweet pepper cheese steak, fried onions, xtra ketchup
take me home, please!
Posted by: Liberal-at-large at May 27, 2004 08:21 PM
Yeah, I'm sorry. I don't want to go to a barbeque with the president. I mean, the president has more important things to do than go to the same barbeque as me, right?
Posted by: quaeverhinge at May 27, 2004 08:21 PM
LOVE IS HATE
Posted by: bowery at May 27, 2004 08:21 PM
I wouldn't have a problem with Kerry at a BarBQ. We'd be jammin' all night long.
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at May 27, 2004 08:22 PM
Cracker!!!
Posted by: Fishgrease at May 27, 2004 08:22 PM
I don't care if its republicans or democrats are pushing the draft. The draft is wrong no matter who is supporting it.
I don't agree. A year of public service would be good for the country. It wouldn't mean military service but everyone would have to do it.
Posted by: Darrell at May 27, 2004 08:22 PM
--Man, this show and others on Air America needs some opposing opinions to liven it up abit.--
They can't handle opposing views. They proved that the other night when Ed Koch was on. That's the reason they won't take calls either.
Posted by: bcw at May 27, 2004 08:22 PM
>>Anybody have a link to the complete audio of Gore's speech? Boy was on fire! Maybe if he would have talked like that four years ago he;d be president now.
Posted by dan at May 27, 2004 08:19 PM <<
Audio & Video courtesy of C-Span:
URL rtsp://video.c-span.org/archive/iraq/iraq052604_gore.rm
Posted by: nmark at May 27, 2004 08:22 PM
Posted by: NOLAWitch at May 27, 2004 08:19 PM
I would only prefer a BBQ with bush instead of Kerry if bush was on the rotisserie!
Posted by: clueless in VB at May 27, 2004 08:23 PM
A Democrat draft....!
Posted by War Dog at May 27, 2004 08:17 PM
At this time the draft boards are all republicans and are preparing for a January effort........
Posted by: RWiley at May 27, 2004 08:23 PM
Draft just did not work!
Posted by: War Dog at May 27, 2004 08:23 PM
LAL - ketchup on a cheesesteak? go for the upgrade - get one with provolone and some good pizza sauce
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at May 27, 2004 08:23 PM
~~~ They can't handle opposing views. They proved that the other night when Ed Koch was on. ~~~
You're disproving your own fucking point!!!
They HAD Koch ON!!!
Posted by: Fishgrease at May 27, 2004 08:23 PM
chickenhawk cracker
Posted by: terry wilke at May 27, 2004 08:24 PM
Posted by Darrell at May 27, 2004 08:22 PM
This is where I disagree. I fundamentally believe nobody should be forced to do any type of public service for the state if its against thier will.
Posted by: LeftistIndependent at May 27, 2004 08:24 PM
At this time the draft boards are all republicans and are preparing for a January effort........
You're so wrong. I know many liberals that are signing up for the draft boards in an effort to deferr as many kids as they can. HaHaHaHaHaHa
Posted by: Darrell at May 27, 2004 08:24 PM
Should take some call though....
Why not take calls????
Posted by: War Dog at May 27, 2004 08:24 PM
>>I wanted to slap Chris Matthews for going on about the stupid poll claiming that people like Bush<<
It is stupid. I'd like to party with Ghengus Khan. What's the point?
Posted by: dan at May 27, 2004 08:25 PM
I don't care if its republicans or democrats are pushing the draft. The draft is wrong no matter who is supporting it.
The only point in reinstating the graft was too spread out the responsibility to everybody when wars are started. As it is right now only people at the poverty level or above of the ones dying overseas. Don't get me wrong I'd rather not there be a war in all. But if these people are going to Start Wars, then there family members should be the first ones to go fight in that war.
Posted by: Patriot at May 27, 2004 08:25 PM
~~~ Why not take calls???? ~~~
They do.
From a pig farmer, no less.
Posted by: Fishgrease at May 27, 2004 08:25 PM
Should take some call though....
Why not take calls????
stop whining crybaby
Posted by: terry wilke at May 27, 2004 08:25 PM
This is where I disagree. I fundamentally believe nobody should be forced to do any type of public service for the state if its against thier will.
That's cool.
Posted by: Darrell at May 27, 2004 08:26 PM
Poll from today if Kerry runs with McCain
Kerry 52%
Bush 39%
too bad pigs cant fly yet.
Posted by: bowery at May 27, 2004 08:26 PM
This blog is as close as MR is to taking callers right now. But their guests quite often don't have the opinions they have.
Posted by: Marion Delgado at May 27, 2004 08:26 PM
More than 20 years.
Gore Vidal claims the idea of using the military for world domination goes all the way back to WW2, and is not limited to republicans.
The new thing about the neocons is that the external enemy is no longer the russians.
Posted by: Bjorn at May 27, 2004 08:26 PM
The professional sevicemen don't want it!
Posted by: War Dog at May 27, 2004 08:26 PM
--They HAD Koch ON!!!--
Trash mouth, you think they'll ever have him back?
Posted by: bcw at May 27, 2004 08:27 PM
>>The professional sevicemen don't want it!<<
I don't think they want "civilian contractors" either. What say do they have?
Posted by: dan at May 27, 2004 08:28 PM
The only point in reinstating the graft was too spread out the responsibility to everybody when wars are started. As it is right now only people at the poverty level or above of the ones dying overseas. Don't get me wrong I'd rather not there be a war in all. But if these people are going to Start Wars, then there family members should be the first ones to go fight in that war.
And that will never happen if the neocons draw up the draft. No one should be exempt. All or nothing.
Posted by: Darrell at May 27, 2004 08:28 PM
regarding the draft, isn't it just a myth that the current army is made of people that want to be there? most just want to pay for college or joined the reserves figuring they'd never see this kind of action. the current army virtually was conscripted.
Posted by: jojo at May 27, 2004 08:28 PM
I'm almost embarassed to post this, but has this already been discussed on a previous blog (lame as it is)?
I've always looked at horoscopes more as entertainment than anything else, but has anything legitimate been published about the Year of the Monky, politically speaking?
Just curious since this is the year of the monkey and so was
1992
1980
1968
1956
1944
1932
1920
1908
1896
1884
1872
1860
1848
1836
1824
1812
1800
1788
1776!
Is there a significance in our goings on and the same bullshit people were put through during these dates on the politcal spectrum?
Posted by: quaeverhinge at May 27, 2004 08:29 PM
criznakalackerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Posted by: chris at May 27, 2004 08:29 PM
This is where I disagree. I fundamentally believe nobody should be forced to do any type of public service for the state if its against thier will.
only chickenhawk republicans!!!
Posted by: terry wilke at May 27, 2004 08:29 PM
Local Board members are appointed by the Director of Selective Service in the name of the President, on recommendations made by their respective state governors or an equivalent public official. If you are interest in serving as a Local Board member, you may apply on-line for an application package.
Perhaps there are liberals sneaking in...but Service in the name of the president is being taken very seriously in most parts of the country.
Posted by: RWiley at May 27, 2004 08:29 PM
I'm almost embarassed to post this, but has this already been discussed on a previous blog (lame as it is)?
I've always looked at horoscopes more as entertainment than anything else, but has anything legitimate been published about the Year of the Monky, politically speaking?
Just curious since this is the year of the monkey and so was
1992
1980
1968
1956
1944
1932
1920
1908
1896
1884
1872
1860
1848
1836
1824
1812
1800
1788
1776!
Is there a significance in our goings on and the same bullshit people were put through during these dates on the politcal spectrum?
Posted by: quaeverhinge at May 27, 2004 08:29 PM
#15 U.S. Military's War on the Earth
http://www.projectcensored.org/publications/2004/15.html
Posted by: wanda at May 27, 2004 08:29 PM
CRACKER
Posted by: terry wilke at May 27, 2004 08:30 PM
Draft is OK, if we revert to old war tactics.
In the old days, generals and kings had to fight in the front lines to rally their troops. Just put Bush in front, and see how long the bloodlust lasts.
Posted by: Bjorn at May 27, 2004 08:30 PM
I think during boot camp they teach you how to kill...that should've given them a clue as to what they may be forced to do at some time. I worked two jobs to get through college. I had a choice.
Posted by: Darrell at May 27, 2004 08:30 PM
The current so-called volunteer military is the modern equivalent if indentured servitude.
Posted by: dan at May 27, 2004 08:30 PM
Darrell-
I agree ... but 2 yrs of service..
Military or civil!
Posted by: War Dog at May 27, 2004 08:31 PM
interesting, quaeverhinge
Posted by: jojo at May 27, 2004 08:31 PM
You had a choice, but not everyone does.
Posted by: Filthycleo at May 27, 2004 08:31 PM
pros know they are
'cannon fodder' many concerns about
training, equipment, skillz
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at May 27, 2004 08:31 PM
Put Bush and Sadam in a room, both with 45's, whatever the outcome we win!
Posted by: terry wilke at May 27, 2004 08:31 PM
Thank god someone is talking seriously about the PNAC. I've been waiting almost a year for this.
www.newamericancentury.org
thank you!
Posted by: the_reich_wing at May 27, 2004 08:31 PM
~~~ Trash mouth, you think they'll ever have him back? ~~~
They well might. But that's not the point. The point IS that they do have people on with opposing points of view. Some nights, that's all there is! And yes, Koch pretty much cleaned their clocks. Sam and Janeane don't feel they have to act like they won a debate they didn't win. You want that, tune in to FOXNEWS. Plenty of it there.
Posted by: Fishgrease at May 27, 2004 08:31 PM
Cracker, eh? Well .... all i have to say back is ...
PEACHES!
Posted by: Marion Delgado at May 27, 2004 08:31 PM
One story that I remember wasn't reported in US media: Colin Powell's UN presentation intelligence was based on a plagiarised research paper by a California graduate student. The paper in question had been written around 1991. Also missing in the US media, the fact that the Niger documents had been discredited four months before GWB cited them in his State of the Nation address in January, 2003.
I recommend we cancel all our subscriptions to US media and buy the international papers and mags, visit the international web sites and the alternative media sites. US media won't get the point until it starts to affect their bottom line.
Posted by: Scott Lahteine at May 27, 2004 08:32 PM
>>The current so-called volunteer military is the modern equivalent if indentured servitude.
Posted by dan at May 27, 2004 08:30 PM <<
I thought that's the whole point.
Posted by: wanda at May 27, 2004 08:32 PM
It is tough in L. The good news is there are Fatburgers.
Posted by: rance at May 27, 2004 08:33 PM
quaeverhinge,
i mean, youve listed quite a few dates there!
gimme a chance and i could probably find you significant events in every year... the monkey, the pig , the rat, the schrub............
Posted by: bowery at May 27, 2004 08:33 PM
Share your newspapers with others. :)
Posted by: Filthycleo at May 27, 2004 08:33 PM
>>Put Bush and Sadam in a room, both with 45's, whatever the outcome we win!<<
Don't you think knives would be more interesting? It could be a pay-per-view event.
Posted by: dan at May 27, 2004 08:33 PM
I think the draft talk is mostly a canard.
Posted by: nmark at May 27, 2004 08:33 PM
Has anyone here watched "Brazil" lately? It's eerie how much foreshadowing of 2004 there is in that movie.
Posted by: Scott Lahteine at May 27, 2004 08:33 PM
goody
That south philly style
me south joisey boy, drippin' mozzarella, iced Piels tall-neck
heaven, boy, truly heaven
Posted by: Liberal-at-large at May 27, 2004 08:34 PM
>> Put Bush and Sadam in a room, both with 45's, whatever the outcome we win!
Posted by terry wilke at May 27, 2004 08:31 PM <<
not bloody enough, give them sharp objects instead.
Posted by: wanda at May 27, 2004 08:34 PM
You had a choice, but not everyone does.
I had a choice to work my ass off and save dough.
I had a choice to...holy crap, I'm sounding like one of them! Of course you're right. Not everyone has the choices I had.
Posted by: Darrell at May 27, 2004 08:34 PM
>>The current so-called volunteer military is the modern equivalent if indentured servitude.
Posted by dan at May 27, 2004 08:30 PM <<
isn't that really a myth. some volunteers, yes, but a lot of the ground troops in iraq were just reservists or wanted to pay for college. they didn't sign up for bush's game.
Posted by: rance at May 27, 2004 08:34 PM
peaches n cracker mmmmmmmm
Posted by: terry wilke at May 27, 2004 08:34 PM
Brazil is the shit.
Posted by: Filthycleo at May 27, 2004 08:34 PM
Draft is OK, if we revert to old war tactics.
In the old days, generals and kings had to fight in the front lines to rally their troops. Just put Bush in front, and see how long the bloodlust lasts.
That was exactly my point. Maybe there wouldn't be so many people supporting that idiot Bush if it was their son getting his head cut off with a knife.
Posted by: Patriot at May 27, 2004 08:35 PM
NO no no no
No Peaches...
Cracker!!!
Posted by: Fishgrease at May 27, 2004 08:35 PM
~Put Bush and Sadam in a room, both with 45's, whatever the outcome we win!~
What??? No M9's?
Posted by: at May 27, 2004 08:35 PM
Just curious since this is the year of the monkey
============================
Yeah. The Robot Monkey!
Posted by: Rockford at May 27, 2004 08:35 PM
white house, AC NJ
Sack O Subs too
spent lotsa time there. folks have a place. we're from Philly. You could tell, eh?
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at May 27, 2004 08:35 PM
cracker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: terry wilke at May 27, 2004 08:35 PM
DRAFT ONLY COLLEGE GRADS EH?
Posted by: terry wilke at May 27, 2004 08:36 PM
The right will warm up to the draft just as soon as they can figure out how to limit it to the working class and minorities...
Posted by: nmark at May 27, 2004 08:36 PM
The reason I posted this is because I've been reminded that Year of the Monkey is the year of surprises. Quite the dissertation, I'm sure. But it really seems like a revolutionary year and so was 1776....
Posted by: quaeverhinge at May 27, 2004 08:36 PM
Actually my fav place is in Philly near Manayunk - Mama's Pizzeria. Sandwiches big as your leg.
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at May 27, 2004 08:36 PM
jojo
heard it caled "economic conscription"
makes up 50-60% of active duty troops
Posted by: Liberal-at-large at May 27, 2004 08:37 PM
The right will warm up to the draft just as soon as they can figure out how to limit it to the working class and minorities...
nothing new under the sun
Posted by: terry wilke at May 27, 2004 08:37 PM
yep, in case you were wondering, i'm rance.
Posted by: rance at May 27, 2004 08:37 PM
>>not bloody enough, give them sharp objects instead.<<
Ok--here it is: one knife in the middle of the room. They fight for it with broken bottles.
Posted by: dan at May 27, 2004 08:37 PM
I think the draft talk is mostly a canard.
Posted by nmark at May 27, 2004 08:33 PM
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theyll be no draft.
they dont want class system upset.
Posted by: bowery at May 27, 2004 08:38 PM
Fishgrease: You should not post while drunk.
Posted by: Scott Lahteine at May 27, 2004 08:38 PM
Yeah. Democrats want a draft so they can send Barbara and Jenna to Iraq.
Posted by: at May 27, 2004 08:38 PM
Three things briefly.
1) Calls? I love Randi Rhodes's show and she can handle calls due to her format (it's just her), but the format doesn't work on Al's show (my opinion) and won't work here.
I don't need thirty calls with everyone saying, "Janeane! I love you! I just want to tell you that you were great in _____!" taking away from the topics that are being discussed.
(I love Reality Bites and Truth About Cats & Dogs. Were I to call, I'd probably be one of those saying the previous quote.)
The guests are interesting and Janeane and Sam's format is best without callers. (My opinion.)
2) Guests. If I want to hear various neocons, I certainly am able to access their views in every other media outlet.
There are so many voices (from various ends of the left) that are not represented in the media.
Though I'm sure Janeane & Sam could tear Richard Pearl apart or Condi or whomever, I'd rather we hear from people that are usually not given opportunities nation wide.
I've enjoyed (tremendously) hearing Howard Zinn,
Gloria Steinem, Arianna Huffington, Ellen & Bill earlier this week, etc. I'd rather (my opinion) hear from voices that are otherwise not available on radio (or TV) nationally.
3) Is the song being quoted ("War is peace" "Love is hate") Tracy Chapman's "Why?"
Posted by: Jake at May 27, 2004 08:38 PM
Sam and Janeane
Please ask your guest if he saw the documentary called war spin. It was broadcasted on link TV. It was about how all the information about this war was being manipulated by the Bush administration. And how the sum of the journalists in Iraq were being threatened by Bush cronies.
Posted by: Patriot at May 27, 2004 08:38 PM
eeeeuuuuuuu cow puss!!!
Posted by: terry wilke at May 27, 2004 08:38 PM
It's true. Drinking and posting: A Deadly Combination.
Posted by: Rockford at May 27, 2004 08:38 PM
http://www.theflasharchive.com/f/f-50.htm
Cows with Guns
Posted by: Miss Anne Thropic at May 27, 2004 08:38 PM
The Brazil references are interesting, considering how accustomed to terrorism the public seemed to be (during the restaurant scenes); no?
Posted by: quaeverhinge at May 27, 2004 08:39 PM
DRAFT ONLY COLLEGE GRADS EH?
Posted by terry wilke at May 27, 2004 08:36 PM
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great post!!
Posted by: bowery at May 27, 2004 08:39 PM
Censorship Haiku
At last -- found out
The greatest secret of all
'twas a
Posted by: Bjorn at May 27, 2004 08:39 PM
US and France were together takibg out Aristede
Posted by: at May 27, 2004 08:39 PM
SCOTT RITTER SCOTT RITTER SCOTT RITTER SCOTT RITTER SCOTT RITTER SCOTT RITTER SCOTT RITTER SCOTT RITTER SCOTT RITTER SCOTT RITTER SCOTT RITTER SCOTT RITTER
Posted by: at May 27, 2004 08:40 PM
Yeah. Democrats want a draft so they can send Barbara and Jenna to Iraq.
Our military doesn't except belligerent drunks.
Posted by: Patriot at May 27, 2004 08:40 PM
quaeverhinge, time moves in circles not a straight line and there are certain harmonies like in music.
Posted by: jojo at May 27, 2004 08:40 PM
Just looked up this Brazil film at the internet movie database. Looks like it's worth a rental. Thanks.
Posted by: JJ at May 27, 2004 08:40 PM
this is drunks only nite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: terry wilke at May 27, 2004 08:40 PM
On Media as Propaganda...I sent this letter to my Congressman as well as to Santorum and Senator Sphincter. I urge anyone to write to their reps about this too.
Congressman Murtha:
I just found out that Rush Limbaugh’s radio show is carried on Armed Forces Radio. That it is, in fact, the only long format talk radio show carried on this TAX PAYER funded network that our servicemen and women have access to.
I think this is a disgrace. Why are my tax dollars going to support Rush Limbaugh? His show should immediately be removed from Armed Forces Radio. Since when should tax money be used to subsidize Rush Limbaugh’s political agenda?
I hope you will act to see that Limbaugh is removed from Armed Forces Radio.
Thank you.
Posted by: dan at May 27, 2004 08:40 PM
Thank god for Amy Goodman!!
Posted by: Miss Anne Thropic at May 27, 2004 08:40 PM
SCOTT RITTER SCOTT RITTER SCOTT RITTER SCOTT RITTER SCOTT RITTER SCOTT RITTER SCOTT RITTER SCOTT RITTER SCOTT RITTER SCOTT RITTER SCOTT RITTER SCOTT RITTER
Posted by at May 27, 2004 08:40 PM
============
Wait! Everybody shhh! I think he's trying to tell us something.
Posted by: Rockford at May 27, 2004 08:40 PM
SAM.......WAKE up. stop reading the blog.
Posted by: wanda at May 27, 2004 08:41 PM
Brazilliant!
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at May 27, 2004 08:41 PM
>>>US and France were together takibg out Aristede<<<
OK, good point. GWB did do one good thing this year.
Posted by: nmark at May 27, 2004 08:41 PM
Fishgrease, the real point is they have very few on with view points from the opposite side, and when they do they do not handle it well. I believe that is the reason they won't take calls either. Callers, whether of the same leanings or not, would bring up subjects which would quickly get Sam and Jeanane in over their heads. These folks are amatures and I don't think preachin to the chior is advancing the liberal cause. They are going to have to step up to the plate one of these days if they are going to make it. I wish them well, but from what I have heard and seen so far it looks doubtful.
Posted by: bcw at May 27, 2004 08:41 PM
3) Is the song being quoted ("War is peace" "Love is hate") Tracy Chapman's "Why?"
Posted by Jake at May 27, 2004 08:38 PM
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im thinkin more "1984"!
Posted by: bowery at May 27, 2004 08:42 PM
~~~ Fishgrease: You should not post while drunk. ~~~
I'm a recovering alcoholic. Haven't had a drop since Christmas 1986. If I'm posting stuff you don't like, either I'm fucked up or you are.
If its me, and I'll admit that possibility, it has nothing to do with alcohol. If its me, I'm just naturally fucked up.
Posted by: Fishgrease at May 27, 2004 08:42 PM
DRAFT ONLY COLLEGE GRADS EH?
Posted by: terry wilke at May 27, 2004 08:42 PM
Brazil is one of my all time favorites, way before I thought the implications would really come to light. Fascism alive and well, eh?
Posted by: quaeverhinge at May 27, 2004 08:42 PM
The draft is real.....I was drafted.....it sucks......a trip to the mail.....hoping for a letter from a special girl....and suddenly Uncle Sam Greets you....and the next thing you know they are shooting at your ass in some hot foreign country.....if you are a young right wing Bush-can-do-no-wrong kinda guy or girl please enlist now to spare those who did not vote for Bush and did not want this war...or you could vote for a man who does not want the draft. You will get many chances in your life to vote Republican again.
Posted by: RWiley at May 27, 2004 08:42 PM
Antiterror Haiku
will hunt down
all bad folks in the land
take their bikes and pretzels
Posted by: Bjorn at May 27, 2004 08:43 PM
~~~ Haven't had a drop since Christmas 1986 ~~~
Santa didn't bring me anything and I took the hint.
Posted by: Fishgrease at May 27, 2004 08:43 PM
Our military doesn't except belligerent drunks.
Posted by Patriot at May 27, 2004 08:40 PM
How do you explain General Boykin?
Posted by: Darlenenbc at May 27, 2004 08:43 PM
I Pray for all Your souls .....
Posted by: The Christian Coalition at May 27, 2004 08:43 PM
DRAFT ONLY DRUNK COLLEGE GRADS EH?
Posted by: terry wilke at May 27, 2004 08:43 PM
Brazil needs to be seen on a very big screen. The cinematography is gorgeous!
But if not, still essential.
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at May 27, 2004 08:44 PM
"The Brazil references are interesting, considering how accustomed to terrorism the public seemed to be (during the restaurant scenes); no?"
DEFINITELY.
I love that scene.
also...everybody that hasn't seen this needs to know that there are 2 versions.
FUNK the American version.
If it's 90 minutes, don't watch it. That's the "Love Conquers All"/American version.
Watch the Director's cut.
Posted by: Filthycleo at May 27, 2004 08:44 PM
neo-cons are fuckin evil. check out their site if you haven't already: www.newamericancentury.org/
Posted by: Shanti at May 27, 2004 08:44 PM
Hunter S. Thompson was being told to tone down his critique or the Iraqi prisoner torture by espn. In one of his articles he mentioned a few journalists that were killed by the military in Iraq.
What is going on in this country when these sheisters can get away with sandbagging a doctor of journalism? haha :)
Any HST fans out there may want to check out his page 2 column for the espn.com site... a lot of HST fans don't know he's been doing that for a while now.
Posted by: at May 27, 2004 08:45 PM
if you are a young right wing Bush-can-do-no-wrong kinda guy or girl please enlist now
what he said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: terry wilke at May 27, 2004 08:45 PM
DRAFT ONLY DRUNK COLLEGE GRADS EH?
Posted by terry wilke at May 27, 2004 08:43 PM
========
Yes. And start on Wall Street.
Posted by: Rockford at May 27, 2004 08:45 PM
Brazil needs to be seen on a very big screen. The cinematography is gorgeous!
But if not, still essential.
What are you working for the Brazilian board of tourism.
Posted by: at May 27, 2004 08:45 PM
"isn't that really a myth. some volunteers, yes, but a lot of the ground troops in iraq were just reservists or wanted to pay for college. they didn't sign up for bush's game."
If you sign up for the military for whatever reason, it would probably be wise to consider the fact that it is the MILITARY and that there is a possibility you might have to fight. That is a large part of what you are trained for. If you wanted to go to college then go the local community college and get 2 jobs or whatever it takes to pay for it. I know several people who do exactly that. Yes it's hard, but if you don't want to take a chance of having to fight, then you don't belong in the military.
Posted by: RichV at May 27, 2004 08:45 PM
I love the eats at in-and-out burger. Warrior loves them, too.
Always Believe (large hamburger make america feeble),
I am Ultimate Warrior Fan
Moving Pat Tillmam tribute now up at http://www.ultimatewarrior.com
Check out portland.indymedia.org too!
Posted by: WOYAH Fan at May 27, 2004 08:45 PM
Please sign our petition to end Judicial Tyranny In America
Posted by: The Cristian Coalition at May 27, 2004 08:45 PM
I Pray for all Your souls .....
Posted by The Christian Coalition at May 27, 2004 08:43 PM <<<<
I asked God about you guys, she says you all stopped listening to her years ago...
Posted by: nmark at May 27, 2004 08:45 PM
mmmmmmmmmmm
good segment
great guest with great sites
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at May 27, 2004 08:46 PM
I love the eats at in-and-out burger. Warrior loves them, too.
Always Believe (large hamburger make america feeble),
I am Ultimate Warrior Fan
Moving Pat Tillmam tribute now up at http://www.ultimatewarrior.com
Check out portland.indymedia.org too!
Posted by: WOYAH Fan at May 27, 2004 08:46 PM
If its me, and I'll admit that possibility, it has nothing to do with alcohol. If its me, I'm just naturally fucked up.
Posted by Fishgrease at May 27, 2004 08:42 PM
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cant think of anyone who isn't "naturally fucked up. "
keep posting, fishgrease!!
Posted by: bowery at May 27, 2004 08:46 PM
~~~~I Pray for all Your souls ..... ~~~
Don't include me in your prayer!
can't trust a christian.
Posted by: Miss Anne Thropic at May 27, 2004 08:46 PM
Anyone else having trouble convincing the Kool Aid drinkers to note vote Bush again? I'm in Jacksonville, Fl and the Baptist Church tells everyone who to vote for. Because that's what Jesus's intended, right?
Posted by: quaeverhinge at May 27, 2004 08:46 PM
Janeane! A right-wing moron with a surname of "Garofalo" is embarrassing your good name!
Check it out at http://www.startribune.com/stories/1519/4797110.html (or click the URL link above):
Bush was right
A detonated bomb filled with sarin was discovered in Iraq (Star Tribune, May 26). That would mean that Saddam Hussein was in possession of a weapon of mass destruction.
Those who have claimed that this war has been fought under false pretenses may send their apologies to:
President Bush
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Av. NW
Washington, DC 20500
Patrick Garofalo, Farmington.
Posted by: Phoenix Woman at May 27, 2004 08:46 PM
Sam & Janeane,
You're MY new American Idols!
Posted by: clueless in VB at May 27, 2004 08:46 PM
Here's a bushism. From msnbc/slate/bushisms
More broken promises. Talk about flip-flops:
I want to remind you all that in order to fight and win the war, it requires an expenditure of money that is commiserate with keeping a promise to our troops to make sure that they're well-paid, well-trained, well-equipped
No training
Cut in Pay
no bullets - flak jackets, armored humvees
Batting -0- :(
Posted by: ToniD at May 27, 2004 08:47 PM
What are you working for the Brazilian board of tourism.
Posted by: at May 27, 2004 08:45 PM
Nah, just tryin' to promote a great old little movie... It really has nothing to do with Brazil.
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at May 27, 2004 08:47 PM
Thanks Bowery for the answer. I only know "1984" by Bowie (performed by Tina). I was thinking it was Tracy Chapman's "Why?" that was being quoted:
Why do the babies starve
When there's enough food to feed the world
Why when there're so many of us
Are there people still alone
Why are the missiles called peace keepers
When they're aimed to kill
Why is a woman still not safe
When she's in her home
Love is hate
War is peace
No is yes
And we're all fine
But somebody's gonna have to answer
The time is coming soon
Amidst all these questions and contradictions
There's some who seek the truth
Posted by: Jake at May 27, 2004 08:47 PM
~~~ keep posting, fishgrease!! ~~~
Thanks, Bowery.... bet on it!
Posted by: Fishgrease at May 27, 2004 08:47 PM
Anyone else having trouble convincing the Kool Aid drinkers to note vote Bush again? I'm in Jacksonville, Fl and the Baptist Church tells everyone who to vote for. Because that's what Jesus's intended, right?<<<
That's a good way for a church to lose its tax-exempt status.
Really.
Posted by: nmark at May 27, 2004 08:47 PM
>>I love the eats at in-and-out burger. Warrior loves them, too.<<
If you are from New Jersey, go to South Plainfield off of exit 10 and get the Sherban Burger at Sherban's Diner. Get it with fries and a chocolate shake.
Posted by: dan at May 27, 2004 08:48 PM
It is not true that George W. Bush molested a goat. I don't think it is right for someone to talk about goats in this fashion.
Posted by: Ralph Spoilsport at May 27, 2004 08:48 PM
Al Gore dissing Bush on TomPaine.com. and Moveon.org.
Posted by: Silli O'Phart at May 27, 2004 08:48 PM
I just flipped the channel on the end of Paula Zahn's interview with Richard Holbrooke and he basically ripped Bush a new one and also criticized CNN for getting it wrong about the War as she tried to steer him in a different direction, he stuck to his guns and then talked about the difference between Kerry and Bush and how Kerry has a very sensible plan for Iraq that Bush is only now moving towards and how Bush failed miserably...Great!!! Gotta get the transcript. She tried to cut him off at the end and he got it all in.
Posted by: Catharine at May 27, 2004 08:48 PM
In anybody hear the story on TV yesterday. Service people were being threatened to Reup or else they would not be allowed to leave the military and be sent to Iraq.
Posted by: Patriot at May 27, 2004 08:48 PM
goody -- easy call
bet you a 2-foot hoagie your name ends in a vowel or
you have clan/peeps who do!!! ;)
Posted by: Liberal-at-large at May 27, 2004 08:48 PM
If you are from New Jersey, go to South Plainfield off of exit 10 and get the Sherban Burger at Sherban's Diner. Get it with fries and a chocolate shake.
Posted by dan at May 27, 2004 08:48 PM
=================================
Come on. Nothing's better than Olga's.
Posted by: Rockford at May 27, 2004 08:48 PM
In anybody hear the story on TV yesterday. Service people were being threatened to Reup or else they would not be allowed to leave the military and be sent to Iraq.
Posted by: Patriot at May 27, 2004 08:48 PM
Jake,
1984 is a book.
Posted by: Filthycleo at May 27, 2004 08:48 PM
read it
Posted by: Filthycleo at May 27, 2004 08:49 PM
If you wanted to go to college then go the local community college and get 2 jobs or whatever it takes to pay for it.
nan!!!! try working 80hrs a week making $250 a week take home and going to school, I don't think so!!!
Posted by: terry wilke at May 27, 2004 08:49 PM
I Pray for all your Souls...
Fuck Off
Posted by: RAL at May 27, 2004 08:49 PM
>
Repeat after me:
In the days of Bush George W, when Jebbus was governor of Florida, a decree went out that all the future should be taxed.
Seriously, we are the new Rome.
Posted by: Baptists for Kerry at May 27, 2004 08:49 PM
Air America ... corporate media ... Amy Goodman ... Shell Oil.
Read Amy Goodman's book, "Exception to the Rulers"
Posted by: fbnb at May 27, 2004 08:50 PM
But somebody's gonna have to answer
The time is coming soon
Amidst all these questions and contradictions
There's some who seek the truth
Posted by Jake at May 27, 2004 08:47 PM
""""""""""""""
Tracy & Orwell, both wonderful writers.........
Posted by: bowery at May 27, 2004 08:50 PM
Jake,
1984 is a book.
It's also a movie produced in 1984. And I think there was any earlier version of the same movie in the fifties.
Posted by: at May 27, 2004 08:50 PM
~~~Seriously, we are the new Rome.~~~
You are soooo right just take a look at all of our FAT asses.
Posted by: Miss Anne Thropic at May 27, 2004 08:50 PM
JG
please ask Peter Phillips who won the 2004 Project Censored awards?
Posted by: at May 27, 2004 08:50 PM
MSNBC's Keith Olberman has Al Franken's ratings on right now...he's saying he may have the best ratings for a new radio show EVER! Beat Rush in his time slot!!
Go Air America!!
Posted by: clueless in VB at May 27, 2004 08:50 PM
Great news, Clueless! ... Thanks!!!
Posted by: Fishgrease at May 27, 2004 08:52 PM
Any thing that begins with "Whitehouse officials say..."
Posted by: Freship at May 27, 2004 08:52 PM
Janeane,
Stop. Stop believing all the distorted anti-semitic anti Israeli coverage .
The LEft winger who hates Israel is EXACTLY like the Repubs. who still support Bush. They have bought into a big hate-filled lie.
Your hatred for the righteous people of Israel is so strong. "brutal Israeli Occupation" Is an anti- Israel and Anti you know what lie. You ignore the 800,000 Jews Threatened with ethinc cleansing forced to flee their homes in Arab lands between 48 and 67 with only the clothes on their backs??? Or the fact that Arafat and the Arab leadership doesn't lift a finger to help thier brothers (they DESPISE those poor people) Or that Israel defended itself from anialation in 48 and 67 and 73? Or that Araft has 8 billion in Swiss accouts? In fact HE has stolen all the aid money from Europe meant for Hospitals, schools, roads, etc and used it to buy weapons while his people STARVE and are taught to blow themselves up and that the Jews are the reason for their suffering...WRONG.. WAKE UP Janeane.
Posted by: L.C. at May 27, 2004 08:52 PM
goody -- easy call
bet you a 2-foot hoagie your name ends in a vowel or
you have clan/peeps who do!!! ;)
Posted by: Liberal-at-large at May 27, 2004 08:48 PM
Pay up ;)
We're Jews (tho me not so much so any more)
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at May 27, 2004 08:52 PM
So that means who is Il Duce: Bush or Chaney?
Posted by: quaeverhinge at May 27, 2004 08:52 PM
Thank you
I've been saying this for such a long time now. There needs to be major news reform. They can start off with making it illegal for the government to intimidate any journalist for propaganda purposes. That should be illegal
Posted by: Patriot at May 27, 2004 08:52 PM
Where are the 11 new stations coming in May? They better get a movin'. They haven't replaced the stations in Chicago or LA yet either.. as promised.
Posted by: at May 27, 2004 08:52 PM
"Jake,
1984 is a book.
It's also a movie produced in 1984. And I think there was any earlier version of the same movie in the fifties."
not to be confused with "Class of 1984", which was all about gangs, drugs, sex, and Alice Cooper singing the same song over and over again.
:)
Posted by: Filthycleo at May 27, 2004 08:53 PM
>>Come on. Nothing's better than Olga's.<<
If you are in Plainfield, NJ--go to Texas Weiners and get two with the works. You'll want to preserve that taste in your mouth for as long as you can.
Posted by: dan at May 27, 2004 08:53 PM
GO AIR AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cracker
Posted by: terry wilke at May 27, 2004 08:53 PM
Patriot - Isn't that story from a few weeks ago? Or is this a new one?
Posted by: Catharine at May 27, 2004 08:53 PM
I'm honored to shake the hand of a brave Iraqi citizen who had his hand cut off by Saddam Hussein
Posted by: George Bush at May 27, 2004 08:53 PM
Hey Folks-
Let's try to ignore the trolls. We're better off talking amungst ourselves than trying to change the opinion of someone who has an agenda coming in, or trying to debate someone here who is just blogging to disrupt without logical debate.
Pleople are here because every response to something stupid like "Republicans won't start a draft" is a win for someone here to disrupt.
The only way they were able to make any impact here before was by trying to take down the server by posting the bible. It's not our responsibility to debate these people who have no intention to debate in a respectful, common sense manner. Be respectful of the other people here who are blogging to make a real impact, and ignore the trolls and the chicken-shit anonymous posts.
Don't be fooled by thinking you can change them-if they don't see the truth by listening to the show, you won't be able to reach them either.
Posted by: Rico at May 27, 2004 08:54 PM
L.C.
Not gonna change anybody's mind here... this is the MR board!!!
We're anti-semantic!
Posted by: Fishgrease at May 27, 2004 08:54 PM
yes ... I saw it Janeane ... and I can't think of the other guy's name either.
Posted by: fbnb at May 27, 2004 08:54 PM
Hunter S Thompson
the good doctors archives
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/archive?columnist=hunter_s._thompson&root=page2
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at May 27, 2004 08:54 PM
Here’s a question????
In regards to the Neo-con’s plans for global dominance.
Has the advent of the INTERNET thwarted these plans for full control of the media?
And the suppression of truth and open discourse?
Posted by: steven at May 27, 2004 08:54 PM
>>So that means who is Il Duce: Bush or Chaney?<<
Remember that episode of Star Trek where the drugged leader presides over a planet of NAZIs? That drugged guy is Bush.
Posted by: dan at May 27, 2004 08:54 PM
Hi Guys,
Just heard on MSNBC that Al Frankens show in the afternoon beat Rush drug/addicts, show in most markets during April especially in NY. I am so happy to hear Air America is doing so well. I hope your show- Majority Report- is doing as well !
Love yeah Janeane, And Sam you can rant with the best ..........
Thanks guys.....
Posted by: Wayne in Maine at May 27, 2004 08:55 PM
~~~WRONG.. WAKE UP Janeane. ~~~
NO you are WRONG try listening to hear instead of telling her how wrong she is.
She is not alone in her beleif.
Posted by: Miss Anne Thropic at May 27, 2004 08:55 PM
L.C. yes the Arab leaders are complete rotten corrupt greedy fucking jackasses... but Israel's leaders have not treated Palestinians any better... what with bulldozing their homes and killing innocent people.
Posted by: Shanti at May 27, 2004 08:55 PM
what about alex jones of infowars.com as the truth about 9-11
Posted by: at May 27, 2004 08:55 PM
A detonated bomb filled with sarin was discovered in Iraq (Star Tribune, May 26). That would mean that Saddam Hussein was in possession of a weapon of mass destruction.
Hold your apologies until phoenix lady provides some more research
Posted by: RWiley at May 27, 2004 08:55 PM
I know this is completely off topic. I also know that this will not be a well liked topic for this blog, but I really need to add this because I just find it too funny.
If anyone here watches pro wrestling (which I seriously doubt), you'd be interested to know that there is a new "bad guy" character who is from Texas, he wears a suit, he's a millionaire, and he's arrogant. I think it is really interesting because wresting happens to be a pretty big dumbed down show that caters to a middle-american audience.... and the big "bad guy" character is a Bush like Texan millionaire. Anyway, check it out. It's worth a look.
Posted by: Anthony at May 27, 2004 08:55 PM
"I'm honored to shake the hand of a brave Iraqi citizen who had his hand cut off by Saddam Hussein"
So I heard what I thought I heard. Amazing
Posted by: Bjorn at May 27, 2004 08:56 PM
"nan!!!! try working 80hrs a week making $250 a week take home and going to school, I don't think so!!!"
Talking point. No one works 80 hours a week and takes home just $250. Even working 40 hours a week at wal mart and you will earn more than that take home. I work at a large big box electronics retailer, and our lowest paid full time person working 40 hours a week takes home more than that.
And this retailer offers full tuition reimbursment for any full time person, and you do not have to major in business to qualify. That's how I paretially paid for my college degree, working full time there for 11 bucks an hour, only job, plus support my family with my wife working a 20 hour a week part time job.
Posted by: at May 27, 2004 08:56 PM
You want to know a secret? After my last attack, the doctors put in a new bionic heart, so now I will never die. That's why this headlong race toward all out nuclear war is no sweat off my sac.
Posted by: DickInTheBunkerCheney at May 27, 2004 08:56 PM
some trolls are worth debating.
Posted by: bowery at May 27, 2004 08:56 PM
Good. Maybe that bastard Cheney will drop dead from a massive heart attack.
Posted by: at May 27, 2004 08:56 PM
I think I need to repost my playlet from earlier in today's blog about trolls.
Takin' a vote first before I get redundant.
What say y'all?
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at May 27, 2004 08:57 PM
Perchy - If you be fucked up, then we ALL be fucked up! Me more than most!
Vote for Fishgrease for National Archivist!
Posted by: Liberal-at-large at May 27, 2004 08:57 PM
Janeane ... Chip Berlot of Political Research Associates was the 9-11 debater with Griffin.
Posted by: fbnb at May 27, 2004 08:57 PM
>
Second!
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at May 27, 2004 08:58 PM
Let's start a campaign where we all send Dick Cheney McDonald's gift certificates.
Posted by: dan at May 27, 2004 08:58 PM
I don't think its any kind of an illness. George W. Bush is just stupid. It's just that simple
Posted by: Patriot at May 27, 2004 08:58 PM
Thank you Bowrey. To "Posted by at May 27, 2004 08:50 PM" and others, yes 1984 was a book by Orwell. You're not breaking any news to me. But thank you for your smugness.
Posted by: Jake at May 27, 2004 08:58 PM
Dick Cheney stepping down will be the 8th wonder of the modern era. How could a monstrous ego such as the Cheney psyche bring itself to resign from anything? Especially when the world price for crude is in ascendancy.
Posted by: Calum di Warlock at May 27, 2004 08:58 PM
goody-anything from you is always appreciated!
Posted by: clueless in VB at May 27, 2004 08:58 PM
Akron will be the place to be for the 2004 election! Akron will be ground zero for the political vibe!
Posted by: Stu Gotts at May 27, 2004 08:59 PM
Maybe his students will drop in?
hope so
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at May 27, 2004 08:59 PM
Janeane,
Stop. Stop believing all the distorted anti-semitic anti Israeli coverage .
Posted by L.C. at May 27, 2004 08
Why is it that anything less than fawning admiration of Israeli policy and politics is forbidden speech? Isn't Isreal the only country in America's history to have attacked a US Navy vessel in international water and not faced the severest consequences in fact faced no consequences. Is the Anti American hatred we glean from the muslum a good trade off for the 300 million odd dollars we hav given, loaned to Isreal. Frankly I rather like a fair look at this country's actions toward Isreal and Isreal's policy toward Ghaza and the West Bank.
Posted by: reedabook at May 27, 2004 08:59 PM
Your comments indicated that you were unaware. *shrug*
Posted by: Filthycleo at May 27, 2004 08:59 PM
GO FLAMES GO!
that is all...
Posted by: bigblonde at May 27, 2004 08:59 PM
wow, thanks clueless!
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at May 27, 2004 08:59 PM
Buddies, gotta go!
More banter some other time. Peace.
Posted by: Bjorn at May 27, 2004 08:59 PM
Yes Goody... post't!
Posted by: Fishgrease at May 27, 2004 08:59 PM
some trolls are worth debating.
Posted by bowery at May 27, 2004 08:56 PM
------------
I don't see any here tonight-that's what prompted me to write this.
Hey Folks-
Let's try to ignore the trolls. We're better off talking amungst ourselves than trying to change the opinion of someone who has an agenda coming in, or trying to debate someone here who is just blogging to disrupt without logical debate.
Pleople are here because every response to something stupid like "Republicans won't start a draft" is a win for someone here to disrupt.
The only way they were able to make any impact here before was by trying to take down the server by posting the bible. It's not our responsibility to debate these people who have no intention to debate in a respectful, common sense manner. Be respectful of the other people here who are blogging to make a real impact, and ignore the trolls and the chicken-shit anonymous posts.
Don't be fooled by thinking you can change them-if they don't see the truth by listening to the show, you won't be able to reach them either.
Posted by Rico at May 27, 2004 08:54 PM
Posted by: Rico at May 27, 2004 09:00 PM
....All right.....
MR gains a new indy media friend!
Good job guys.
Posted by: wanda at May 27, 2004 09:00 PM
After checking out the symptoms of Korsakov's Sydrome, I think that you are absolutley right. It is probably ONE of the reasons that Bush is such a moron!!! It would be great if he was formally diagnosed.
Posted by: at May 27, 2004 09:00 PM
For more information on my profund and reflexive thinking ...ummmm ... You can even hear the sound that happens when I talk ...... God Bless America go to http://www.dubyaspeak.com/freshdubya.shtml
Posted by: George Bush at May 27, 2004 09:00 PM
later bjorn. nice hang
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at May 27, 2004 09:00 PM
"Let's start a campaign where we all send Dick Cheney McDonald's gift certificates."
That'd be great...only I don't wanna give Mickey-Dees any money.
Posted by: Filthycleo at May 27, 2004 09:00 PM
Maybe we should get him happy meals gift certificates so he could give the toys to his apprentice.
Posted by: Nukular at May 27, 2004 09:01 PM
There has been discussion about the possibility of Bush suffering from Wernicke-Korsakoff Syndrome for weeks, WEEKS on democraticunderground.com, so Sam's big story is no surprise to me....again I ask why DU isn't on your list of sites important to MR since I have to wonder how much time you spend there...
Posted by: ruby at May 27, 2004 09:01 PM
Sorry, I ment to say 300 billion.
Posted by: reedabook at May 27, 2004 09:01 PM
some trolls are worth debating.
Posted by bowery at May 27, 2004 08:56 PM
I don't debate trolls.
I debate ideas.
Posted by: steven at May 27, 2004 09:02 PM
That's how I paretially paid for my college degree, working full time there for 11 bucks an hour, only job, plus support my family with my wife working a 20 hour a week part time job.
that's real nice for you of course, but what about the guy who does have anybody to help with support and has a $5.25 per hour job that's 80 hrs per week to get $420, after tax take home $250
Posted by: terry wilke at May 27, 2004 09:02 PM
repost please
Posted by: Darlenenbc at May 27, 2004 09:02 PM
...but ideas don't have hair to pull...
Posted by: Filthycleo at May 27, 2004 09:02 PM
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Posted by: Brian Westley at May 27, 2004 09:02 PM
Just like to say that I'm away on a business trip, stitting is a lonely hotel room and it's so nice to have Sam and Janeane and the blog here with me.
Hi all!
Posted by: KevinK at May 27, 2004 09:02 PM
You have to have been a severe alcoholic for many years to get Korsakovs Syndrome.
Bush has an IQ of between 100 and 115. His behavior is normal for someone in that range.
Most ppl. are in that range -- that's why there isn't the out rage you think there ought to be.
Posted by: Vosh at May 27, 2004 09:03 PM
Amy Goodman on Democracy Now did a WONDERFUL trbute to David Dellinger tonight!!!! and..FYI, It WAS the Chicago 8.
Posted by: at May 27, 2004 09:03 PM
I also know that this will not be a well liked topic for this blog"""
all posts welcome from anyone
there is no topic so far out
that it's off topic here!
wrestling riff rite on! Goodun!
Posted by: Sunshine Jim at May 27, 2004 09:03 PM
...but ideas don't have hair to pull...
Posted by Filthycleo at May 27, 2004 09:02 PM
I reserve that kind of activity for the bedroom.
Posted by: steven at May 27, 2004 09:04 PM
Israel = God=USA=Racism=Billions to Israel=God=Christian Conservatives=Bush=Israel
Posted by: bowery at May 27, 2004 09:04 PM
Bush has an IQ of between 100 and 115
I heard he had an IQ test in college and scored 80
Posted by: terry wilke at May 27, 2004 09:04 PM
You have to have been a severe alcoholic for many years to get Korsakovs Syndrome.
Bush has an IQ of between 100 and 115. His behavior is normal for someone in that range.
Most ppl. are in that range -- that's why there isn't the out rage you think there ought to be.
Give me a break. George Bushs IQ is no higher than those little kids he was reading too when the two plants get the twin towers.
Posted by: Patriot at May 27, 2004 09:05 PM
have ta have intelligence to pass an IQ test
Posted by: I'm goody and I approve this message at May 27, 2004 09:05 PM
some trolls are worth debating.
Posted by bowery at May 27, 2004 08:56 PM
I don't debate trolls.
I debate ideas.
Posted by steven at May 27, 2004 09:02 PM
"""""""""""""""""""""
well put.
Posted by: bowery at May 27, 2004 09:05 PM
Bush is showing signs of syphilis
Posted by: at May 27, 2004 09:06 PM
"Bush has an IQ of between 100 and 115
I heard he had an IQ test in college and scored 80"
yeah...but I also heard that he had sex with a goat. I need sourcing to be sure of either.
Posted by: Filthycleo at May 27, 2004 09:06 PM
I heard he had an IQ test in college and scored 80
seriously is that true or just urban ledgend
Posted by: terry wilke at May 27, 2004 09:06 PM
--but what about the guy who does have anybody to help with support and has a $5.25 per hour job that's 80 hrs per week to get $420, after tax take home $250--
I think he should go to the pay clerk and find out why 40 percent is being withheld from his check.
Posted by: bcw at May 27, 2004 09:07 PM
~~~Give me a break. George Bushs IQ is no higher than those little kids he was reading too ~~~
BUSH DOES NOT READ
Posted by: Miss Anne Thropic at May 27, 2004 09:07 PM
Bush is showing signs of syphilis
That makes sense. That is a direct result of Laura Bush whoring herself in front of the White House.
Posted by: at May 27, 2004 09:08 PM
An IQ of 80 gets you on Jerry Springer.
Posted by: Vosh at May 27, 2004 09:08 PM
I heard he had an IQ test in college and scored 80
Posted by terry wilke at May 27, 2004 09:04 PM
Yes. But in fairness, he couldn't sit still to finish the test because he was on a massive cocaine rampage.
Posted by: Rockford at May 27, 2004 09:08 PM
"that's real nice for you of course, but what about the guy who does have anybody to help with support and has a $5.25 per hour job that's 80 hrs per week to get $420, after tax take home $250"
Fair enough point. But if this guy doesn't have anyone to help support, then he also doesn't have the added expense of having another person to feed, cloth, pay medical expenses, etc. He only has himself. In addition, I would say that he should immmediately get another job, for as I said the lowest paid full time person at wal mart would make more money than that with just 40 hours a week. I would have to believe that there is a local Wal mart wherever this person lives. in addition, for anyone at this level of income there are multiple grants on the state and federal level that they would qualify for to assist and possibly even pay for college.
Posted by: RichV at May 27, 2004 09:08 PM
I think he should go to the pay clerk and find out why 40 percent is being withheld from his check.
Posted by: bcw at May 27, 2004 09:07 PM
tax health and welfare ect. ect.
Posted by: terry wilke at May 27, 2004 09:08 PM
Jake, I got your point. The blog can get awfully white. Orwell, Brazil. The accepted cannon. Glad to see that Bobby, Tina Turner and Tracy Chapman got mentioned (by you and one other person). Thanks for keeping it real. We need voices like that to ENLARGE not just the discussion but the listed of "accepted" sources.
(And if people can go and on about Brazil, then we can certainly celebrate Tracy Chapman.)
I'll toss out Spike Lee as a guest I'd like to hear but I'd gladly go for Tom Hayden as well.
Posted by: Martha Tompkins Wood at May 27, 2004 09:09 PM
Miss Anne Thropic ~ love the handle!
It's true Bush does not read. Instead, the students were reading TO him at the time the news of the WTC towers got to him.
His knee jerk reaction?
Nothing.
Posted by: Shanti at May 27, 2004 09:09 PM
Build your home out of your own naval lint! Read my book
Posted by: Larry Loosner at May 27, 2004 09:09 PM
.....New thread is open..
Posted by: wanda at May 27, 2004 09:09 PM
I think he should go to the pay clerk and find out why 40 percent is being withheld from his check.
Posted by: bcw at May 27, 2004 09:07 PM
=======================================
Apache Helicopter, cruise missles, $700 hammers.....
Posted by: Rockford at May 27, 2004 09:10 PM
Hi Guys,
Just heard on MSNBC that Al Frankens show in the afternoon beat Rush drug/addicts...
Posted by Wayne in Maine at May 27, 2004 08:55 PM<<<<
Franken Crushes Limbaugh in Arbitron Ratings
http://web.morons.org/article.jsp?sectionid=6&id=5072
Posted by: nmark at May 27, 2004 09:10 PM
"I think he should go to the pay clerk and find out why 40 percent is being withheld from his check."
And I would agree with that also...good point!
Posted by: RichV at May 27, 2004 09:10 PM
Canada is in the midst of a 36 day election campaign. The Conservatives are right wingers like the Repubs; the Liberals position themselves as centrists (but are actually like the conservatives); the green party is lefty environmentalists and the New Democrats are left of centre and don't like to be called socialists who are my pride and joy. Aren't you just chuffed to no end that this blog was posted?
Posted by: Calum di Warlock at May 27, 2004 09:10 PM
BUSH DOES NOT READ
I think Bush does read as long as it's grammar school level.
Posted by: Patriot at May 27, 2004 09:11 PM
Bush said his favorite philosopher is Jesus Christ because he doesn't know any philosophers.
Posted by: dan at May 27, 2004 09:11 PM
I would say that he should immmediately get another job, for as I said the lowest paid full time person at wal mart would make more money than that with just 40 hours a week
yea I heard they pay like a grand a week for part time and they pay your health care!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: terry wilke at May 27, 2004 09:11 PM
--tax health and welfare ect. ect.--
Hogwash... You should do some research. The most ever held out of my check was 30 percent. That included Fed, State, SS, retirement, and health. I was making over 22 dollars an hour at the time.
Posted by: bcw at May 27, 2004 09:13 PM
Sam wants to know The Truth About Cats and Dogs?
Posted by: nmark at May 27, 2004 09:13 PM
George Bush thinks, Homer Simpson was the great communicator.
Posted by: Patriot at May 27, 2004 09:13 PM
Martha:
point taken.
thank you.
Posted by: Filthycleo at May 27, 2004 09:13 PM
"yea I heard they pay like a grand a week for part time and they pay your health care!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Well anything they pay is better than 5.25 at 80 hours a week with no benifits!!!!!!!!! At 40% tax withholding at that!!!!!!
Posted by: at May 27, 2004 09:15 PM
Our accents is from our founders, they came here from England. And the reason why we talked different in different states is just dialects of the same language.
Posted by: Patriot at May 27, 2004 09:16 PM
I was looking around Cafepress (after visiting the great Air America Radio shop, of course!) and saw they have some good anti-Bush / pro-Kerry shops. Here are a few. Type in "Bush" or "Kerry" and you find some interesting stuff.
http://www.cafeshops.com/votebushout
http://www.cafeshops.com/kerryawaybush
http://www.cafeshops.com/angryintheusa
http://www.cafeshops.com/kerryswag
Posted by: dee at May 27, 2004 09:24 PM
Dave Dellinger, along with Lee Weiner, John Froines, Abbie Hoffman, Rennie Davis, Jerry Rubin, Tom Hayden
and BOBBY SEALE made it the Chicago EIGHT!!!
Posted by: at May 27, 2004 09:25 PM
~~~Give me a break. George Bushs IQ is no higher than those little kids he was reading too ~~~
BUSH DOES NOT READ
Posted by Miss Anne Thropic at May 27, 2004 09:07 PM
Bushism:;)
I glance at the headlines just to kind of get a flavor for what's moving. I rarely read the stories, and get briefed by people who are probably read the news themselves."—Washington, D.C., Sept. 21, 2003
Posted by: ToniD at May 27, 2004 09:28 PM
Great. Sanctify the Idealist by denigrating the Realist. You don't like the process of compromise that must accompany political progress so you dismiss all but the Radical who wants to level all existing structure and start from the ground up. Have you ever studied what happens in a real revolution? Yep, can the progressive Realists and let the uncompromising Radicals become the new fascists...
Posted by: ruby at May 27, 2004 09:36 PM
Hi Janeane & Sam,
Great job! I'm now an Air America Addict...told my kids to forget about dinner and the laundry...I've got more important "homework" to do. Thanks for all of your efforts to give us the truth. If there's anything I can do to help (besides buying baseball caps and bumper stickers), just send me an e-mail.
Janeane, FYI...Steve, from The Cutting Room would love to host an after-party following the Concert for Kerry at Radio City Music Hall on June 10th.
Posted by: susan at May 27, 2004 09:40 PM
I know Charlotte Beers. I laughed my ass off when she took that job. She's retired in the New Buffalo area of Michigan where a lot of old adholes go to die.
Posted by: at May 27, 2004 09:50 PM
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Posted by: susan at May 27, 2004 10:16 PM
69%...right where he should be
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