April 15, 2004

Hour One-- Thursday

Joy Behar-- The View

Coming up...
Ron Suskind - "the price of loyalty"
James Walcott- Vanity Fair
Robert MCchesney- "the problem with the media"
an abbreviated Brockley's almanac

Chicago on air tomorrow morn

Posted by majority at April 15, 2004 07:50 PM
Comments

Frist? Moi?

Hello to Joy from Chicago (I hope you have a beverage in a suitable mug).

Posted by: ginny at April 15, 2004 07:52 PM

first?

Posted by: kmj at April 15, 2004 07:52 PM


As usual, you can chat about MR at the Thursday night Firesign chat at
http://www.firesigntheatre.com/chat

Posted by: Brian Westley at April 15, 2004 07:53 PM

A picture is worth a thousand words. I hope Janeane and Sam see this image and put a more prominent link to it.

http://www.bartcop.com/iraq-coffins.jpg

Why are we there again?

:(

Posted by: Daniel J. Geduld at April 15, 2004 07:53 PM

have a great show, sam and janeane...

Posted by: lil ms cranky pants at April 15, 2004 07:54 PM

I suppose there will be a discussion on the book... "The Price of Loyality" Sounds cool.

Posted by: LeftistIndependent at April 15, 2004 07:57 PM

WAR TAXES WAR TAXES WAR TAXES

WWW.WARRESISTERS.ORG CHECK OUT PIE CHART

WWW.COSTOFWAR.COM

WWW.ADDICTEDTOWAR.COM

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 07:59 PM

Janeanne and Sam:

Please draw attention to the picture link posted by Daniel J. Geduld.

It is stunning and sad and pisses me off.

Thank you to Daniel for telling us about it.

Posted by: dan at April 15, 2004 08:00 PM

Enough of Randi Rhodes.....I am ready for

THE MAJORITY REPORT

already..........

Posted by: LeftistIndependent at April 15, 2004 08:00 PM

Is anyone else having trouble connecting with the Webcast?

Posted by: eliot at April 15, 2004 08:00 PM

im excited about Joy!
i havent watched THE VIEW since they started making fun of french people.

Posted by: n69n at April 15, 2004 08:01 PM

Nevermind. I just got in.

Posted by: eliot at April 15, 2004 08:01 PM

No problem connecting.

Posted by: patc at April 15, 2004 08:01 PM

MATT DRUDGE = OSCAR THE SLOUCH

kevr0n

Posted by: kevr0n at April 15, 2004 08:01 PM

"Janeane's Microphone Saga"

All day I've been checking the news reports for the headline....."Irate Manhattan Woman Charged With The Beating Of Local Microphone Salesman."

But alas....and thankfully, no such headline,.....as of yet anyway.

I hope Janeane has her microphone sorted out tonight, so that it doesn't sound like she is broadcasting live from 'The Yellow Submarine'.

Have a great show guys!

Posted by: Teddy Salad at April 15, 2004 08:01 PM

You're welcome, Dan. I think that it's a photo that really needs to be seen by as many people as possible. Maybe it will give some a dose of reality.

Now that troops are going to be there even longer, I think it's especially important.

I wish I had more information about it. I got it from an internet forum I frequent. It is obviously from someone's personal photo collection since Bush won't allow such photos.

Posted by: Daniel J. Geduld at April 15, 2004 08:01 PM

Hi guys,

I've been mulling over Colin Powell and the statement he made last Friday to distance himself from the intelligence he presented at the UN before the war. The only thing that surprises me is that he didn't outright condemn the intelligence and resign in protest. After all, we learned almost immediately afterwards that the intelligence was bunk.

Only a day or two after Powell's strong UN presentation a story broke that the intelligence he had used was largely plagiarized from three research papers and articles. One of these research papers was written by a student in California and was published by Middle East Review of International Affairs in 2002. The student explained that he had not authorized its use by the administration, that he considered it plagiarism, and - most importantly - that he had based his research on data that was over ten years old.

The press at that time seemed to be avoiding any stories that might foster dissent for the attack on Iraq, and so I specifically sought for this story in the US media to test my theory. Not surprisingly, this story was widely covered in the UK and every other country. However, this story -- exactly the sort the mythical "liberal media" would have seized upon with a vengeance -- was almost universally ignored by the US press. (Here's a mailing list posting from that period which notes the phenomenon: http://www.casi.org.uk/discuss/2003/msg00507.html). A Google search on "Colin Powell" and "plagiarism" backs it up.

I think the lack of coverage on this issue contributed to the shock many Americans felt for "Old Europe" when the Germans stated so emphatically, and almost bemusedly, that "you haven't made your case." Thanks to the complicity of our status-quo media the rest of the world knew more about the quality of our intelligence than We The People did.

The other thing that I'm reminded of is that shortly after Powell's testimony I heard an anecdote reported from several sources that Colin Powell had been pissed off by the weakness of the evidence he was being asked to bring to the U.N. at one point, storming out of a rehearsal in a huff. I can't find the source of this story. Maybe some of you remember this report?

Incidentally, a Google search for "colin powell" and "stormed out" turns up 714 hits. You will be unsurprised to learn that most of the time it's other people who do the storming out.

If you ask me, it looks like Powell is anxious to wash his hands of this administration.

Posted by: Scott Lahteine at April 15, 2004 08:02 PM

WAR IS A RACKET
BY SMEDLEY BUTLER

WWW.COMMONDREAMS.ORG

Posted by: JOE at April 15, 2004 08:02 PM

I am having a major trauma not being able to WALKMAN my way thru AARadio here in Chicagoland.
I pray that y'all will be back on the air tomorrow as predicted, 'cause I'm addicted! Go Kerry!

Posted by: Michael G. at April 15, 2004 08:02 PM

close but no cigar.

Posted by: Gregory Wonderwheel at April 15, 2004 08:03 PM

joy behar? isn't she that cow on that annoying TV morning show? What good does she have to say??? How to slip into that outfit from three years ago? Learning how to apply makeup so you look ten years younger? ACK!

Skip her!

Posted by: samhain at April 15, 2004 08:03 PM

day ends, home awaits
brush my teeth and floss my crack
damn! this trash can stinks!

matt drudge not kevr0n

Posted by: matt drudge not kevr0n at April 15, 2004 08:03 PM

Hola all...

I thought I would extend an offer to the AirAmerica fans to check out AirAmericaTalk.com

It's a message board community for fans of the network who might perfer a message board style or a forum for a couple of the other shows on the network.

http://www.airamericatalk.com

Thanks!

Posted by: AirAmericaTALK.com at April 15, 2004 08:04 PM

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3995.htm

Great documentary about the Carlyle Group, with Charles Lewis from the Center for Public Integrity and an ex-Carlyle employee

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:04 PM

I lost my stomach for The View when I heard Merideth Viera salivating over W's crotch in the "mission accomplished" photos.

Posted by: eliot at April 15, 2004 08:04 PM

Hello all... Sam & Janeane: "Winning Back America" By Howard Dean to your Reading list?

Posted by: BuckFush at April 15, 2004 08:05 PM

eliot: sick.

Posted by: samhain at April 15, 2004 08:05 PM

jeneane is a hotie bumbalotti!

kevr0n

Posted by: kevr0n at April 15, 2004 08:05 PM

Anyway that I read this blog without hitting reload?

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:06 PM

i saw janeane on a Seinfeld rerun a few days ago. She looked nice.

Posted by: samhain at April 15, 2004 08:06 PM

Haikus will start now
Cover various subjects
And liberal love

Posted by: CousinPhil at April 15, 2004 08:06 PM

Yo, Janeane, thought you might like this post from Kevin Drum's Political Animal:

"PARTISANSHIP vs. PATRIOTISM....Tom Bevan has a question for us lefties:

'When your interest as a patriot (making changes for the better) and your interest as a partisan (making Bush look bad) conflict, which interest do you put first?

The 9/11 Commission should generate exactly such a conflict among liberals because the more partisan the Commission becomes, the less likely they are to find the truth and the less likely the Commission's final report will have legitimacy in the eyes of the public.

Sadly, however, many on the left don't seem able to either recognize the conflict in the first place or resist the temptation of putting partisanship above patriotism.'

It's funny that conservatives only started complaining about partisanship when the 9/11 commission started producing testimony damaging to George Bush, isn't it? But where were they when he resisted setting up any kind of commission in the first place? Or when he then tried to make a joke out of it by appointing Henry Kissinger as its head? Or on the repeated occasions when he stonewalled the commission when it requested needed documentation and testimony?

Histrionics are not the only sign of partisanship. On the contrary: although preventing an investigation because it might damage you politically is more subtle, it's every bit as partisan. What's more, it's probably more dangerous in the long run, especially when it comes from a commander-in-chief whose party controls every branch of government.

So tell me again who's putting partisanship above patriotism. And his middle initial better be W."

Posted by: dave at April 15, 2004 08:06 PM

kevr0n come join our chat

http://www.firesigntheatre.com/chat

Posted by: samhain at April 15, 2004 08:07 PM

F5 will refresh your page...

kevr0n

Posted by: kevr0n at April 15, 2004 08:07 PM

Wooohooo Chapel Hill is next to get an affilate! Next stop Raleigh, NC!

Posted by: EMKennedyLucio at April 15, 2004 08:07 PM

This was mentioned in another thread by somebofy else....but if someone is having trouble connecting through the main AAR stream....you can pick up the stream here.

http://www.620kpoj.com/main.html

Posted by: LeftistIndependent at April 15, 2004 08:07 PM

Full text of Bin Laden offer

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3628069.stm

Falls on deaf ears

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=1&u=/ap/20040415/ap_on_re_mi_ea/bin_laden_tape_9

Posted by: FlamingBuddha at April 15, 2004 08:07 PM

BTW, is that Andy Dick doing that opening narration?

Posted by: dave at April 15, 2004 08:07 PM

I love Jeanine and Sam, but the best part about this show is the Intro. I love the way that dude says "the Majority Report."

Posted by: CADem at April 15, 2004 08:07 PM

Thanks Kevron.

Posted by: patc at April 15, 2004 08:08 PM

if only somehow those faced with the truth who choose to ignore it and vote for bush, could be tracked down ala patriot act, drafted and sent to iraq to relieve the troops that we all support.

hmmmmm, a perfect solution

btw, we cannot just leave iraq, kerry knows this
he knows we cannot leave iraq in turmoil
he has said this a lot
conservatives should take the time to listen to him
don't assume that you disagree with him on the important issues just because he is democrat
a far left or far right candidate is not the solution
kerry is not far left
he seems to make decisions based on what is best, he does not flip flop, he adjusts to new information and situations, and then determines what is best
he ( and many congressmen and congresswomen )voted to put pressure on saddam when congress was given the false info about wmd's
bush ran with it and here we are

kerry does not just tell us what he thinks we want to hear
conservatives owe themselves and our country some serious consideration of the facts

do not just blindly follow the leader

Posted by: christine at April 15, 2004 08:08 PM

congrats on getting back on Chicago... When is San Francisco and San Jose???

Posted by: Joy in Santa Cruz too at April 15, 2004 08:08 PM

i got smashed last night, too!

Posted by: hobo joe at April 15, 2004 08:08 PM

Janeane and Sam, call up your friends Jon Benjamin and the Upright Citizens Brigade and have them on your show! Jon Benjamin already does the intro for your show so why not have him on?

Posted by: Matt at April 15, 2004 08:08 PM

General Butler was the recipient of two Congressional Medals of Honor. He describes the conservative mind set pretty well when he describes the military mentality.

"War is a Racket" by General Smedley Butler, Ret.
This is his 1935 essay on the subject.

Last sentence is, "So...I say, TO HELL WITH WAR!"

http://lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html

This is from the 1933 speech which was the basis for the 1935 essay.

"I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all the members of the military profession, I never had a thought of my own until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service."

http://ciadrugs.homestead.com/files/smedleybutlerquote.html

http://www.rense.com/general28/warisaRacket.htm
http://www.fas.org/man/smedley.htm

Posted by: Gregory Wonderwheel at April 15, 2004 08:08 PM

Hola-
So how many stations is AAir on now?

Posted by: Ted at April 15, 2004 08:08 PM

Ask Joy why they let the homophobic, talentless bitch known as ELISABETH have a platform for her hate on the VIEW? I loved that show but now I refuse to put it on until ELISABETH is fired!!

Posted by: ADRIAN POTTER at April 15, 2004 08:09 PM

Is ther any way to get an affiliate in Vermont or that can be heard in Vermont? I want Grandma to hear this, but she's not good with computers and has never heard of satellite.

Posted by: tara at April 15, 2004 08:09 PM

You GOTTA check this out:

http://www.apologizealready.com/

Posted by: John from the UK at April 15, 2004 08:09 PM

hunt and peck method makes chat rooms an impossibility for me, but i'm honored by your invitation.

kevr0n

Posted by: kevr0n at April 15, 2004 08:09 PM

Yes. Jeff is from the heart, man. And I am no sissy boy either.

Go Jeff Seemann!!!

http://www.jeffseemannforcongress.com

Posted by: RDS at April 15, 2004 08:09 PM

I'm a firm believer it's the guy who does the voice of Coach McGuirk (H. Jon Benjamin). However, I'll think otherwise if someone can confirm his real identity.

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Posted by: Liberal Dom at April 15, 2004 08:09 PM

The trustworthiness of Ohio's elections is hanging in the balance; you can help tip the scales this Saturday at the "Verify the Vote" rally in Columbus. Electronic voting machines, which use secret software and are known to have lost and changed votes in other states, are already sitting in Ohio waiting to be used. Legislators are thinking about sending them back and switching to a better option: machines that print a paper record allowing voters to verify that their votes are counted properly. This hasn't happened yet, though, and the legislators may lose their nerve unless they see a show of support from their constituents.At 12:30 p.m. on Saturday, April 17, we'll gather at the statehouse in Columbus, on the High Street side, rain or shine. The rally is being organized by the Ohio grassroots group CASE, Citizens' Alliance for Secure Elections. If you have any questions, you can contact them here:Jody Scarbrough (raybay9954@aol.com) Phil Fry (phils@ezsg.com)

Posted by: cj at April 15, 2004 08:09 PM

The know it all's on the VIEW Slam Howard Stern with ignorance & makes me nuts. Only Merideth Vierra & Joy have any rational thought & are informed! Star Jones & the survivor woman know nothing. Like so many ignorant in the USA! THANKS JOY!

Posted by: BuckFush at April 15, 2004 08:09 PM

online in chicago
feel bad for the poor people most affected by bush's terrible policies who can't hear y'all right now-those who can't afford internet or satelite radio

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:09 PM

Congrats on NC and Chicago today :)

I have a comment about one of your posts earlier about the trolls. You mention that they are probably young people / teenagers that are stirring up trouble.

Id rather you NOT do that...becuase it kinda puts off your young viewers...I'm only a 21 year old (who just got done running the state campaign for Kucinich down here in Georgia), and I feel kinda put off that I'm being lumped in with these trolls becasue of my age.

So, you dont really know if they are young, and Id rather you not assume that they are...becuase I keep trying to dispel that sterotype :)

Posted by: letimbo at April 15, 2004 08:10 PM

There is an affliate covering Burlington VT isn't there, check at www.airamericaradio.com and go to the Press Releases

Posted by: EMKennedyLucio at April 15, 2004 08:10 PM

Some men see things as they were and say, "why"? Other's, like me, dream of things that never were and say "why not?"

John Fitzgerald Kennedy


.....is there anything else to say...

Posted by: hicks wit at April 15, 2004 08:10 PM

These two really have serious ADD problem. :p

Posted by: wanda at April 15, 2004 08:10 PM

Good evening people. Are we ready to rumble? J&S are percolating already?

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at April 15, 2004 08:10 PM

why, yes, yes i can.

Posted by: average joe at April 15, 2004 08:10 PM

SPEAK OUT JOY!

you da woman

don't let babs keep you down
she is a shill for the right
they pay for her lovely suits

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:11 PM

Hey guys,

Check out this video it is a satire/parody with Pat Robertson, Ralph Reed, Rush Limbaugh, and Jerry Falwell.

http://www.rightwingeye.com/

It's pretty funny.

Posted by: LeftistIndependent at April 15, 2004 08:11 PM

Joy comes on wbai & is o so smart. Big advocate of free speech & woman's rights!

Posted by: BuckFush at April 15, 2004 08:11 PM

POLITICIANS ARE ALL LIARS LIARS LIARS
POLITRICKSTERS POLITRICKSTERS THEY ARE ALL OWNED BY THE CORPORATIONS--- DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS ALSO PART OF THE PROBLEM. KERRY IS A BUSH-LITE
HE VOTED FOR THE WAR- NAFTA- AND ALOT OF OTHER DEMOCRATS VOTED FOR THE WAR RESOLUTION IN OCTOBER 2002

WWW.ADDICTEDTOWAR.COM LEAR N AMERICAN HISTORY

Posted by: JOE at April 15, 2004 08:11 PM

http://villagevoice.com/issues/0415/mondo10.php

FBI whistle-blowers kept out of the public hearings.

Posted by: Hackett at April 15, 2004 08:11 PM

yeah, my whole family loves Joy Behar but we all quit watching THE VIEW over their pro-war, pro-Bush stance.

Posted by: n69n at April 15, 2004 08:12 PM

Rueters is pronounced: "Royters"

Posted by: upcup at April 15, 2004 08:12 PM

Rooters? Reuters is pronouced ROY-ters, Sam.

Posted by: PatLovesJaneane at April 15, 2004 08:12 PM

Poor deluded Star is marrying a homsexual.

Posted by: eliot at April 15, 2004 08:12 PM

Cool outfit Janeane from today's Tomorrow pic. You guys need a webcam.

Posted by: Ted at April 15, 2004 08:13 PM

I FORGOT TO SAY THAT DENNIS KUCINICH IS THE REAL DEAL.

Posted by: JOE at April 15, 2004 08:13 PM

please mention chalabi
the lying jordan bank robber who lied about the wmd's

Posted by: JOY ROCKS! at April 15, 2004 08:13 PM

Did I just hear Sam pronounce "Reuters" as "rooters"? It's "royters". It's German.

Posted by: Tim at April 15, 2004 08:13 PM

..are any of you Ohioans coming to the Verify the Vote rally Saturday in Columbus?

Posted by: cj at April 15, 2004 08:13 PM

Everyone, get absentee ballots! You can ensure that you have a paper trail. Apply for an absentee ballot, and use that instead of going to your polling place.

J&S, please promote this idea. Everyone can get an absentee ballot, whether they will be away from home or not.

Posted by: Vioxel (vee-OAK-sel) at April 15, 2004 08:13 PM

oops, i mean *some men see things as they ARE and say why? Other's, like me, dream of things that never were and say, why not?
-JFK

Posted by: hicks wit at April 15, 2004 08:13 PM

Hackers hacked Al Jazeera English website during its first few days of operation. Sounds like a GOP operation to me.

Posted by: upcup at April 15, 2004 08:13 PM

I dont' know how Joy can take the rest of them. She seems to have half a brain.

Posted by: eliot at April 15, 2004 08:13 PM

Related to the Diebold machines, lots of info posted on SlashDot over the past months, and a Google on "voting machines" in the news area bring up a lot of good bits. In particular, Australia's policy on voting machines is particularly smart. We have a lot to learn from experiments in other countries, especially with regard to infrastructure.

Posted by: Scott Lahteine at April 15, 2004 08:13 PM

Is Janeane inside her Starbucks coffee cup?

Posted by: BuckFush at April 15, 2004 08:14 PM

>>jeneane is a hotie bumbalotti!<<

Kevr0n, that just made me giggle, so I had to re-post it.

Joy, thanks for coming over the AirAm for a little sanity... let's hear what you have to say... be free... be real...

Posted by: lil ms cranky pants at April 15, 2004 08:14 PM

That was part of Teddy's eulogy of RFK.

Posted by: Dr. Paul Armstrong at April 15, 2004 08:14 PM

Is there any way that we could have an *absentee ballot* campaign in those areas that have the Black Box Voting problems (Georgia, Nevada, Florida, etc...)?

Just get most people to register for an absentee ballot -- all votes would have to be counted, then wouldn't they?

What would be the down-side of a campaign to try to get people in those states to vote in this way to ensure their votes are counted -- and not dumped into the cyberspace ether?

Cheers to your success in court today, guys! We love you out in Illinois!

Posted by: ilona at April 15, 2004 08:14 PM

i listened to the view the other day
until the girls shouted her out
joy, please jam your pointy stilletos into barbara's jack boots

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:14 PM

Janeane n' Sam n' all,

Here are the lyrics and a link to a free mp3 of a new Loudon Wainwright III song, "President's Day". Loudon says to play it, so Janeane 'n Sam, please play it!

http://lwiii.com/lwpresidentsday.html

President’s Day

We got through Christmas & Thanksgiving, too
Halloween wasn’t hard; you don’t have to be you
But it’s there on the calendar just four days away
The day I dread in Feb. is President’s Day

I sent out some Valentines & I got back a few
This month has 29 days…whoop-te-doo
I’m not even religious but I’m gonna pray
This year we make it through President’s Day

George was the first one; Abe was the best
Libraries & airports named after the rest
This year I’m queasy about President’s Day
‘Cause there’s been more than one George I’m sorry to say

In the paper it said there’s a sale & you know
It’s 10 per cent off so we all oughtta go
Get us a good deal the American way
But my country’s a mystery on President’s Day

Yeah, you sure gotta wonder what these guys are for
With their tax cuts & their budgets; how they took us to war
Gotta love a long weekend, that’s safe to say
But for me it’s Blue Monday on President’s Day

George was the father; Abe set ‘em free
That’s the reason he got shot obviously
& November is coming & the 2nd’s the day
“Please, no more of George,” is all I have to say

& Christmas is coming & Thanksgiving, too
& I’ll be 58, yeah, it’s sad but it’s true
Next year at this time I hope I can say
I feel a lot better about President’s Day
With no George in the White House, oh happy day!

Posted by: ben at April 15, 2004 08:15 PM

All Chalmers Johnson books worth reading. Lots of facts...

Posted by: BuckFush at April 15, 2004 08:15 PM

Maybe you can ask Joy why she just sat back and let Elinor Burkett be ridiculed on The View.

What was with Viera saying "You should get down on your knees and thank us soccer moms, because we're the ones selling your book. It's all about us."

Sorry, but the childfree are the ones paying full taxes so parents can get all those tax breaks from Shrub.

We are as important as those "soccer moms", and it's time for our government to respect us since we paying your way.

Sounds like you are the commie, not the childfree or Elinor (as you called her that day).

Posted by: Pete at April 15, 2004 08:15 PM

I met Negroponte a number of times in Honduras when I was a Peace Corps Vol. A bright extremely twisted man who can seemingly justify death squads, drug smuggling, and the murder of innocents so long as he's serving an Administration that sees it in the national interest. On the other hand he did open the Embassy swimming pool to gringos working on their tans.

Posted by: Ben in Monterey at April 15, 2004 08:15 PM

ACTION: Friends Don't Let Friends Pick Bush

Think your broker's incessant talk about the Kerry campaign might be a diversion?
*
Wondering why, after 20 years of viewing together, your spouse wants to watch the nightly news on the "little tv" down in the cellar?
*
While searching for drugs, did you find a copy of of Bill O'Reilly's "The No-Spin Zone" in your daughter's sock drawer?

the bottom line:
***************

YOU KNOW WHO YOUR FRIENDS ARE, BUT DO YOU KNOW WHO THEY'RE FOR THIS NOVEMBER?

...Friends, it's easy to trust someone you think you know, but in reality, that just makes you an easier target for "Republican Sleeper Cells." PROTECT YOURSELF!!! These small, non-centralized units work within the shadows of Evil, waiting for America to drop its guard, and then they VOTE in unimaginable swarms, like killer-bees descending from the sun!!!

Think about it: Even you might know a high-level Republican "Ranger" or "Pioneer" and NOT EVEN KNOW IT!!!

Let's not allow the tragic events of 11.07.00 to happen again. This silent enemy has infiltrated our cities, schools, churches, and places of work -- they attempt to "fit in" among the rest of us until they are given their signal to mobilize...

It is YOUR responsibility to be vigilant. We cannot rely on our elected leaders alone to rid us of this threat!!!

It is time for us to develop our own "human intelligence" right here in our own communities. We must lift every rock and expose every worm for who s/he really is.

Here are two "Litmus Test" utilities you can use to protect you and your family. Each allows you to look up campaign contributions (including soft-money) made by people you need to monitor.

(1) opensecrets.org

(2) fundrace.org

Once you identify a potential threat to our great country, you must steel your resolve. Approach them openly, but calmly. Tell them what you've learned about them. Be gentle, but firm. Sometimes confronting a Republican is easier in a group - you can stage an intervention, if necessary.

And remember, while some are too far gone in their zealotry, others are not yet lost!

They will never shake our will!

http://thebigwedding.blogspot.com

Posted by: ampro at April 15, 2004 08:16 PM

the people of the middle east are also known for holding a grudge for centuries. WE have wracked up a LOT of grudges.

Posted by: Joy in Santa Cruz too at April 15, 2004 08:16 PM

Joy is an incredibly funny lady. I enjoyed her short-lived show and was bummed to see it go. Thank her for sticking up for free speach. Looking forward to her interaction with J & S.

Posted by: goody at April 15, 2004 08:16 PM

PRESS CONFERENCE HAIKU by kevr0n

chroma crawl confounds
can't stop lookin' at that tie
subliminable!

Posted by: kevr0n at April 15, 2004 08:16 PM

Sam is having trouble pronoucing things tonight lol

Posted by: PatLovesJaneane at April 15, 2004 08:17 PM

Pronouncing

Posted by: PatLovesJaneane at April 15, 2004 08:17 PM

Inspired by Howard Dean and Dennis Kucinich, my brother is running for US Congress in NC 5th district.
This is a grassroots campaign. I’ve done the website, designed flyers and signs and paid for everything myself.

Our Republican opponent will have millions of $$ by November.

SO what I was thinking… was that there might be people across the nation who might be interested in contributing a small amount to our campaign. If not just to see this OPEN SEAT go to a Democrat… then to at least try and stop VERNON ROBINSON – who calls himself the BLACK JESSE HELMS – from being a congressman.

Matter of fact, all the Republicans running are claiming to be “young Jesse Helms” … “black Jesse Helms”… and running ads trying to “out Christian each other.”

Can you help us get some traffic??

Peace,

Larry Winfrey

Campaign Manager

Winfrey for Congress

www.winfrey2004.com

Posted by: Larry at April 15, 2004 08:17 PM

More doublespeak.

Posted by: goody at April 15, 2004 08:17 PM

Sam, Janeane:

Do you pronounce Italy Eye-taaly? I doubt it. So show some respect for the people of Iraq and Iran by pronouncing the names of their countries correctly. Eee-RAHK, Eee-RAHN. OK? And Sam, by the way, it's pronounced Roiters, not Ruters.

Posted by: maria la place at April 15, 2004 08:18 PM

WWW.DEMOCRACYNOW.ORG WAR LIES WAR LIES DRAFT

DRAFT IS COMING

Posted by: JOE at April 15, 2004 08:18 PM

PatLovesJaneane:

Check your speling.

Posted by: ben at April 15, 2004 08:18 PM

SAY SOMETHING ABOUT (The) DONALD RUMSFELD'S STATEMENT AT TODAY'S PRESS CONFERENCE:
"People are FUNGIBLE."

"Fungible:"
1. Law. Returnable or negotiable in kind or by substitution, as a quantity of grain for an equal amount of the same kind of grain.
2. Interchangeable.

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at April 15, 2004 08:18 PM

Can we stop people from saying 'on the ground' please.

Posted by: goody at April 15, 2004 08:18 PM

JOY...Why is that HOMOPHOBIC BITCH ELIZABETH still on the View? She is so ignorant! Why give hate a platform on a show that was intended to be inteligent,liberal and open minded? I can not watch the show until she is gone!

Kill Elisabeth H. before she reproduces!

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:18 PM

Why should we be surprised about Negroponte? We're employing Kissenger, and fistfulls of other nasty folks. We have to excise the infection, not treat the fever. Rout Bush and his puppeteers.

I've actually started calling Cheney "Gepetto". He's a puppeteer, who'd created a blissfully clueless little boy with a lying problem. The puppet's conscience must be external, because it's certainly taking long enough to kick in.

Posted by: Vioxel (vee-OAK-sel) at April 15, 2004 08:19 PM

Patricia Williams in The Nation talked about the racism of the phrase "cakewalk" at the time (last March?). Cakewalks were part of minstrel shows.

Posted by: eliot at April 15, 2004 08:19 PM

what up with the non-essential ambassadors leaving saudi arabia?

Posted by: jojo at April 15, 2004 08:19 PM

Kerry will bring the draft same as Bush.

Posted by: FlamingBuddha at April 15, 2004 08:19 PM

i would like to know what percentage of taxes disney pays

rich people are not our main problem
big corporations are
60% of all for profit corporations pay 0 taxes

a great big goose egg!

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:19 PM

Patriot Quotes:

Bill Vaughn: A real patriot is the fellow who gets a parking ticket and rejoices that the system works.

Gilbert Keith Chesterton: "My country, right or wrong," is a thing that no patriot would think of saying except in a desperate case. It is like saying, "My mother, drunk or sober."

Stephen Decatur: Heroism on command, senseless violence, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism - how passionately I hate them!

Samuel Johnson: Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

Posted by: Gregory Wonderwheel at April 15, 2004 08:19 PM

"I believe demolishing Hussein's military power and liberating Iraq would be a cakewalk. Let me give simple, responsible reasons: (1) It was a cakewalk last time; (2) they've become much weaker; (3) we've become much stronger; and (4) now we're playing for keeps." - Ken Adelman

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A1996-2002Feb12?language=printer

Posted by: Lara Inis at April 15, 2004 08:19 PM

Pentagon crash 'too unrealistic'
By Bryan Bender, Globe Staff, 4/14/2004

WASHINGTON -- Five months before Sept. 11, 2001, the officers responsible for defending American airspace wanted to test their ability to prevent a hijacked airliner from being crashed into the Pentagon, but the scenario was rejected by the Joint Chiefs of Staff as impractical, a Joint Chiefs spokesman confirmed yesterday.

The disclosure was made after a government watchdog group released a leaked e-mail from a former official at the North American Air Defense Command. In the message, the official told colleagues a week after the attacks that in April 2001 NORAD requested that war games run by the Joint Chiefs include an ''event having a terrorist group hijack a commercial airline . . . and fly it into the Pentagon."

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2004/04/14/pentagon_crash_too_unrealistic/

Posted by: DC at April 15, 2004 08:20 PM

samhain:

Joy has been the voice of sanity on The View.
I appreciate her staying up on the issues and having a strong opinion that she can back up.

survivor gal needs to be whacked down on a regular basis and Joy does it.

Meridith is hot (for an older woman) but she often goes for the middle of the road view.

Star has a few good positions, but she had more respect for "The office of the president" than Bush deserves.

Posted by: spocko at April 15, 2004 08:20 PM

crankypants you one cool human

Posted by: Shadow Webmaster at April 15, 2004 08:20 PM

Chalabi is an international hussler.

Posted by: wanda at April 15, 2004 08:20 PM

I did Ben and I corrected it

Posted by: PatLovesJaneane at April 15, 2004 08:20 PM

embezzeling is stealing

my mom had an employee who embezzled

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:20 PM

um, no draft please. seriously.

Posted by: Matt at April 15, 2004 08:20 PM

Amy Goodman is a good women. She is a journalist with courage.

Posted by: read 5 at April 15, 2004 08:20 PM

right on gregory wonderwheel. there will be more war no matter what. :(

Posted by: jojo at April 15, 2004 08:20 PM

John Negroponte gave a speech at the University of Pennsylvania yesterday.

The University's President, Judith Rodin, requested that his remarks be "off the record".

The student newspaper here has dutifully rolled over for the administration.

I've blogged about it at http://ninjasfordean.blogspot.com, taking the administration, student newspaper and University President to task.

Links included to Nat'l Security Archive docs of Honduras Death Squads, Human Rights Violations.

WHY ARE PENN STUDENTS FOOTING THE BILL FOR THIS GUY?

Check your University schedules - let's stop this guy's speaking tour! Post here or to Ninjas for Dean --

sunzoo2004@yahoo.com
http://ninjasfordean.blogspot.com

Posted by: sun zoo at April 15, 2004 08:21 PM

I just tuned in in time to hear someone on your show--Sam--pronounce Reuters as if it rhymed with Hooters. Noooooo. It's pronounced "ROY-ters." Please don't give the iligitimati any ammo with which to bust your chops.

--Ehkzu

Posted by: Ekhzu at April 15, 2004 08:21 PM

thank god i was raised 4F!

kevr0n

Posted by: kevr0n at April 15, 2004 08:21 PM

Maria la place:

"show some respect for the people of Iraq and Iran by pronouncing the names of their countries correctly"

Do you pronounce France right? Japan? Americans, like everyone else, have their ways of pronouncing other countries. Deal.

Posted by: David at April 15, 2004 08:21 PM

Thank you, thank you for AAR's attention to black box voting.

Posted by: read 5 at April 15, 2004 08:21 PM

SAY SOMETHING ABOUT (The) DONALD RUMSFELD'S STATEMENT AT TODAY'S PRESS CONFERENCE:
"People are FUNGIBLE."

"Fungible:"
1. Law. Returnable or negotiable in kind or by substitution, as a quantity of grain for an equal amount of the same kind of grain.
2. Interchangeable.

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at April 15, 2004 08:22 PM

i would rather have kerry fix bush's mistakes than let bush continue with them
(and continue to deny the mistakes he made!)

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:22 PM

I wish Amy Goodman was on Air America

Posted by: Adrian at April 15, 2004 08:22 PM

T he dictator of Equitorial Guiena has money deposited directly from US oil companies to his account at Riggs Bank in DC.

Posted by: Ted at April 15, 2004 08:22 PM

Joy good & smart, Star/LIZ survivor chick bad & dumb.

Posted by: BuckFush at April 15, 2004 08:23 PM

draft bill can be seen here
http://thomas.loc.gov/
search for bill number hr163

Posted by: Marlana at April 15, 2004 08:23 PM

Here is the "cakewalk" article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A1996-2002Feb12?language=printer

WOW!

Posted by: Bookee at April 15, 2004 08:23 PM

WOW! WOW! WOW!

Those of you who post disparaging remarks riddled with epithets and wacky grammar are a hoot! I dig your passion! I understand you. I do. I know how it is when your only creative outlet is the outgoing message on your answering machine. "I can't get to the phone right now. I'm pounding your mom. Leave a message. Thanks."

Keep up the great work guys and remember: The truth is no match for your hatred and anger! No it's not. Oh, no it's not.

BTW, congratulations on not being Left Behind. Score!

Posted by: reredux at April 15, 2004 08:23 PM

'fungible' is one of my favorite words to pull out that no one else will know but sounds kinda cool and possibly dirty. now i shall have to find another. perhaps 'tumescent'.

Posted by: jojo at April 15, 2004 08:24 PM

marlana
tx. for the tip.

kevr0n

Posted by: kevr0n at April 15, 2004 08:24 PM

Hey everybody, not everyone listening to this show is a kid. I'm 49 and listening to the stream. Janeane and Sam, you guys are great.

I live in Palm Beach Fl and have been listening to Randi Rhodes for years.

keep on keep'n on!

Posted by: Comajorr at April 15, 2004 08:24 PM

gotta link to that rumsfeld quote Maryscott?

Posted by: FlamingBuddha at April 15, 2004 08:24 PM

Machiavelianly (?) speaking, the draft will seal a Kerry presidency.

Posted by: goody at April 15, 2004 08:24 PM

I'm so glad we got Chicago back! I looove this station and all the hosts! I had nearly given up hope that anyone who isn't right wing was still alive. Go LA!! We need all the ears we can get!
Tina

Posted by: Tina at April 15, 2004 08:25 PM

Of course the whole thing about bringing democracy to Iraq was just the settled-upon tagline in a long list of mission objectives leading up to the war. Being a last-minute thought, it was never intended to succeed. The well-known Iraq plan the hawks have been passing around Washington for at least 10 years prefers a strong Sunni General warlord. Once we've been forced to pull out the likely outcome will be a descent into chaos - an ethnic bloodbath - from which will emerge a strong revolutionary force. Once a new hierarchy has been established there will be another ethnic bloodbath, except the emergent dominant force will be the main perpetrators.

Just a theory.

Posted by: Scott Lahteine at April 15, 2004 08:25 PM

The uninformed treatment Michael Morre got on THE VIEW was horrible. Only JOY stood up for Michael. LIZ outright lied about something & Michael went crazy.

Posted by: BuckFush at April 15, 2004 08:25 PM

"Ms. Hasselbeck has a strong passion for working with Breast Cancer Prevention, Research and Support. She also dedicates her time to working with the youth of today in order to develop their self-esteem."

I take it from your comments, she doesn't help today's gay youth? what did this woman do? I didn't watch Survivor Outback... though I may have watched some others... maybe... ;-)

Posted by: lil ms cranky pants at April 15, 2004 08:25 PM

Ask Joy about her opinions of Bill O'Rielly when he was on the View.

Posted by: spocko at April 15, 2004 08:25 PM

Gawd....That Bush is really need some smacking.

Posted by: wanda at April 15, 2004 08:25 PM

WOW! WOW! WOW!

Those of you who post disparaging remarks riddled with epithets and wacky grammar are a hoot! I dig your passion! I understand you. I do. I know how it is when your only creative outlet is the outgoing message on your answering machine. "I can't get to the phone right now. I'm pounding your mom. Leave a message. Thanks."

Keep up the great work guys and remember: The truth is no match for your hatred and anger! No it's not. Oh, no it's not.

BTW, congratulations on not being Left Behind. Score!

Posted by: rereredux at April 15, 2004 08:25 PM

reredux
i repost, too. but i use the same name, more or less, when i do repost.

Posted by: kevr0n at April 15, 2004 08:25 PM

You're welcome, I've been following this since April of last year. This draft will be for anyone, male or female between 18 and 26 years old. It's bad stuff.

Posted by: Marlana at April 15, 2004 08:25 PM

you say tomato and say why waste your time spelling potato correctly - save it for some place more formal - come on guys, let er' rip!

Posted by: read 5 at April 15, 2004 08:25 PM

I would say that the members of the Bush admin are interchangeable... they are all clones.

Posted by: Joy in Santa Cruz too at April 15, 2004 08:25 PM

All of you who think Elisabeth should be fired from the View, say I!

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:25 PM

if you think bush is bad now, just wait until after he doesn't have to worry about re-election. he'll be dropping bombs (oh wait he's already doing that).

Posted by: jojo at April 15, 2004 08:26 PM

A few more patriot quotes:

John Dryden: Never was patriot yet, but was a fool.

Here's my favorite that is tailor made for the "conservative" dressed up as a patriot.

Mark Twain: Patriot: The person who can holler the loudest without knowing what he is hollering about.


This next one explains why those conservatives who call themselves patriots are mistaken and are really just nationalists.

Sydney J. Harris: The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.

Posted by: Gregory Wonderwheel at April 15, 2004 08:26 PM

let joy speak!

Posted by: n69n at April 15, 2004 08:26 PM

WOW! WOW! WOW!

Those of you who post disparaging remarks riddled with epithets and wacky grammar are a hoot! I dig your passion! I understand you. I do. I know how it is when your only creative outlet is the outgoing message on your answering machine. "I can't get to the phone right now. I'm pounding your mom. Leave a message. Thanks."

Keep up the great work guys and remember: The truth is no match for your hatred and anger! No it's not. Oh, no it's not.

BTW, congratulations on not being Left Behind. Score!

Posted by: rerereredux at April 15, 2004 08:26 PM

.........Toooo much information

Posted by: wanda at April 15, 2004 08:26 PM

if the view was survivor, joy would winthe million!

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:26 PM

"I!!!!"

Posted by: kirsty at April 15, 2004 08:26 PM

SAM >>> Ask Joy about Stern & Michael Moore treatment. Why are the rest of women on VIEW so ignorant?

Posted by: BuckFush at April 15, 2004 08:26 PM

Super Bon-Bon! Has anyone told you guys you have awesome musical taste?

Posted by: Insomnicole at April 15, 2004 08:26 PM

How about giving the Saudi people some freedom, George! You're propping up the worst regime in the world.

Posted by: jdog at April 15, 2004 08:27 PM

Hi to Joy from Joy in Santa Cruz

Posted by: Joy in Santa Cruz too at April 15, 2004 08:27 PM

rererererereredux
clever! very funny! i like it!

kevr0n

Posted by: kevr0n at April 15, 2004 08:27 PM

Biblical Fundamentalism is an equal threat to freedom as is Koranic Fundamentalism. Biblical Fundamentalism is a growing threat in this country.

Posted by: Hackett at April 15, 2004 08:27 PM

Hi Joy, welcome to the best blog ever.

Posted by: read 5 at April 15, 2004 08:28 PM

yup up cup somebuddy kept sending me stuff
funny too the 'Bush asshole page' fixed the hole
mockabelli use my reg email know you got it
'I keep it open on purpose'
you know what i mean

Posted by: Shadow Webmaster at April 15, 2004 08:28 PM

Janeane

I love you!

Posted by: Joey JoJo Junior Shabadoo at April 15, 2004 08:28 PM

even the biased news shows that we need a new prez

the bushies have their heads in the sand

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:28 PM

Joy, next time O'reilly is on The View, please ask him harder questions that the last time he was on. He is such a liar.

Posted by: Lisa at April 15, 2004 08:28 PM

Hey look a archtypical Tom Friedman column
http://risinghegemon.blogspot.com/2004_04_01_risinghegemon_archive.html#108203364044144800

Posted by: attaturk at April 15, 2004 08:28 PM

"Lighthouses are more helpful than churches."

- Benjamin Franklin

Posted by: jojo at April 15, 2004 08:28 PM

You guys are so cute when you fight.

Posted by: mr. me at April 15, 2004 08:28 PM

Hackett: I AGREE.

Posted by: samhain at April 15, 2004 08:28 PM

With respect to Janeane's warnings a few minutes ago about a coming draft, this article suggests that maybe it's not just young men who should be concerned:

New bill calls for G.I. Jane draft
With legislation requesting the reinstatement of the draft to include women, equal rights may enter a new war zone come next year.

(Excerpts from a University of Alabama story picked up by whatreallyhappened.com. See also:
http://www.datelinealabama.com/article/2004/03/14/5576_news_art.php3)

Merrick Wiedrich, staff reporter

For years women have fought to have the same rights as men, and in 2005, they may have equal rights when it comes to being drafted into the military. 
 
The U.S. House of Representatives and Senate have introduced new legislation to bring back the military draft in order to include women. The new draft states that any man or woman between the ages of 18 and 26 can be drafted into military service. 
 
According to a press release, the bill will allow the U.S. government to add half-a-million troops or more within a short period of six months or less, from the date it is signed and approved. 
 
Lieutenant Colonel Neil Reinwald, a U.S. Army Commander and professor of military science at UA, said as a serving officer on active duty, it is inappropriate for him to comment in an official capacity about pending legislation unless called upon to testify before Congress. 
 
"I can tell you that the Department of Defense in an official capacity is opposed to drafting anyone right now," Reinwald said. "We are more than satisfied with the all volunteer force and the men and women that are all volunteers in the military." 
 
Pending legislation in the House and Senate timed the program so the draft could begin early spring 2005, just after the 2004 presidential election. 
 

Posted by: Redacted at April 15, 2004 08:28 PM

ewwwwwwwww........

Posted by: wanda at April 15, 2004 08:28 PM

You guys need to start exploring the peak oil theme:

Richard Heinberg, The Party's Over
Mike Ruppert, fromthewilderness.org

Brand new video documentary out on peak oil:
THE END OF SUBURBIA: Oil Depletion and the Collapse of The American Dream -- www.endofsuburbia.org

Posted by: twist at April 15, 2004 08:28 PM

go joy! go joy! go joy!

Posted by: lil ms cranky pants at April 15, 2004 08:28 PM

Wow. I thought about having turtles, but I got crabs instead.

Posted by: Vioxel (vee-OAK-sel) at April 15, 2004 08:28 PM

right on JOY

the bushies are blaming each other

they all fall down

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:29 PM

JOY...Why is that HOMOPHOBIC BITCH ELIZABETH still on the View? She is so ignorant! Why give hate a platform on a show that was intended to be inteligent,liberal and open minded? I can not watch the show until she is gone!

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:29 PM

i agree with Joy about nyt!!!

Posted by: n69n at April 15, 2004 08:29 PM

yuck crabs bad...

Posted by: BuckFush at April 15, 2004 08:29 PM

Joy, when will you have your own T.V. or radio show?!!

Posted by: Lisa at April 15, 2004 08:29 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040415/wl_mideast_afp/un_iraq_weapons_040415190843


Yahoo! News Thu, Apr 15, 2004

UN nuclear watchdog says material, buildings gone missing in Iraq

Thu Apr 15, 3:08 PM ET

UNITED NATIONS (AFP) - Contaminated metal, equipment and even entire buildings in Iraq (news - web sites) that had been monitored by UN nuclear inspectors have disappeared since the war, the UN's nuclear watchdog said.

Diplomats said the discovery, much of it from commercially available satellite pictures, raises concerns about whether the US occupation in Iraq has been able to effectively monitor sensitive Iraq sites.

"The imagery shows that there has been extensive removal of equipment and, in some instances, removal of entire buildings," International Atomic Energy Agency chief Mohamed ElBaradei said in a letter to the UN Security Council.

Posted by: Barbara at April 15, 2004 08:29 PM

Ask Joy about Elizabeth from The View being a moralistic Republican tool.

Posted by: movershaker at April 15, 2004 08:29 PM

a haiku:

dominoes tumble
black and white straight procession
such form comforts them

neil 4-15-04

Posted by: gayestneil at April 15, 2004 08:30 PM

jojo
tx! the B.F. quote is cool!

kevr0n

Posted by: kevr0n at April 15, 2004 08:30 PM

You guys are great! Here's a link to a BBC profile of the Iraqi "patriot" Chalabi

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/not_in_website/syndication/monitoring/media_reports/2291649.stm


Of note: "Personally, I will not run for any office, and I am not seeking any positions. My job will end with the liberation of Iraq from Saddam's rule," Yeah, right!

Also, more details on the Jordanian trial that convicted him back fraud and sentenced him to 22 years.

Posted by: G-man at April 15, 2004 08:30 PM

tee hee vioxel...

Posted by: lil ms cranky pants at April 15, 2004 08:30 PM

Yeah, I really need to get a copy of "Sorrows of Empire." Secondly, politicians are not ALL liars. This belief only aids the cause of the politicians who are liars, not only because it gives them an excuse to lie, but because it has a negative impact on the direction our country GOES political. We need to be critical, but we also must be hopeful; if we are constantly in a depressive mode, we will create a self-fulfilling prophesy. Only liars will want to be politicians.

Posted by: Raphael Pope-Sussman at April 15, 2004 08:30 PM

how do whole buildings disappear?

Posted by: jojo at April 15, 2004 08:30 PM

Joy did have show on wabc in nyc for awhile. Has hosted here & there on wbai in nyc too.

Posted by: BuckFush at April 15, 2004 08:30 PM

NEIL! neil is back! Huzzah! Let the Haiku goodness begin!!!

Posted by: samhain at April 15, 2004 08:30 PM

a haiku:

dominoes tumble
black and white straight procession
such form comforts them

neil 4-15-04

Posted by: gayest neil at April 15, 2004 08:30 PM

Ewwwwww. Turtle cannibals? Oh thanks, now I'll be having slow motion nightmares. Come on, Newt and Buchannan and others have admitted the whole "Liberal Media" thing is a joke and a gag and they use it because it works among the angry white dumb crowd.

Posted by: catalexis at April 15, 2004 08:30 PM

"This party comes from the grass roots. It has grown from the soil of the people's hard necessities." -- Senator Albert J. Beveridge, 1912

Posted by: dz-015 at April 15, 2004 08:30 PM

Anyone know what song they were playing when they came back from the last break?

Posted by: Marlana at April 15, 2004 08:31 PM

The Other Half was supposed to be a View for men, but it turned out to be four men talking about women's issues.

Posted by: PatLovesJaneane at April 15, 2004 08:31 PM

neil, you're the gayest.


Posted by: jojo at April 15, 2004 08:31 PM

how do whole buildings disappear?

bombs & bulldozers...

Posted by: FlamingBuddha at April 15, 2004 08:31 PM

Go Liberals!!!!!

Posted by: Lisa at April 15, 2004 08:31 PM

Elisabeth Hasselbeck is a HOMOPHOBE.

I hate Elisabeth!

Please fire Elisabeth

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:31 PM

YEAH JOY!!!
ive missed her!!!!!

Posted by: n69n at April 15, 2004 08:31 PM

NOT "MENEEKIAN"

"Men akian" is the pronunciation

Posted by: DMCG at April 15, 2004 08:31 PM

Sam >>> ATTACK of (Micahel Moore) on show!!!

Posted by: BuckFush at April 15, 2004 08:31 PM

Janeane, please, I love you and I've wanted you since I first saw you describing your Chevy Nova with the plastic-bag window ... but "Manichaean" should be pronounced [man-i-KEE-in].

Posted by: Gigi at April 15, 2004 08:31 PM

don't ask joy to bad mouth her coworkers
that is a bad move
they are just scared
focus the attention on the administration and what they let happen

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:31 PM

oh, fb, i was thinking uss eldritch, montauk stylee

Posted by: jojo at April 15, 2004 08:32 PM

Star Jones is a dead-on government apologist.

Posted by: Gregory Wonderwheel at April 15, 2004 08:32 PM

Hey everybody! I get to listen at home. How exciting.

Posted by: gayest neil at April 15, 2004 08:32 PM

DONALD RUMSFELD:

"People are fungible."

"Fungible" -- "interchangeable."

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at April 15, 2004 08:32 PM

HEY SAM:

TELL JOY THAT SHE IS A COW AND I HATE HER SHOW

Posted by: samhain at April 15, 2004 08:32 PM

hey janeane
a great easy reader for the book list is john hershey's A Bell for Adano

Posted by: cbsturf at April 15, 2004 08:32 PM

JOY...Why is that HOMOPHOBIC BITCH ELIZABETH still on the View? She is so ignorant! Why give hate a platform on a show that was intended to be inteligent,liberal and open minded? I can not watch the show until she is gone!

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:32 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&u=/ap/20040415/ap_on_re_mi_ea/un_iraq_nuclear_3&printer=1

Yahoo! News Thu, Apr 15, 2004

Probe Casts Doubt on Iraq Nuclear Security


UNITED NATIONS - Some Iraqi nuclear facilities appear to be unguarded, and radioactive materials are being taken out of the country, the U.N.'s nuclear watchdog agency reported after reviewing satellite images and equipment that has turned up in European scrapyards.

The International Atomic Energy Agency sent a letter to U.S. officials three weeks ago informing them of the findings. The information was also sent to the U.N. Security Council in a letter from its director, Mohamed ElBaradei, that was circulated Thursday.

The IAEA is waiting for a reply from the United States, which is leading the coalition administering Iraq (news - web sites), officials said.

The United Sattes has virtually cut off information-sharing with the IAEA since invading Iraq in March 2003 on the premise that the country was hiding weapons of mass destruction.

No such weapons have been found, and arms control officials now worry the war and its chaotic aftermath may have increased chances that terrorists could get their hands on materials used for unconventional weapons or that civilians may be unknowingly exposed to radioactive materials.

According to ElBaradei's letter, satellite imagery shows "extensive removal of equipment and in some instances, removal of entire buildings," in Iraq.

Posted by: Barbara at April 15, 2004 08:32 PM

Tell Joy that who ever decides the shots for the view needs to take it easy. It's like a coked up squirrel is calling the cameras. Can't you stay on one person for more than 3 seconds?

Posted by: DannySully at April 15, 2004 08:32 PM

Elizabeth on VIEW >>>> is BORN AGAIN!

Posted by: BuckFush at April 15, 2004 08:32 PM

Joy, come-on, you did not give Bill a hard time what-so-ever. I love you Joy, but be honest, you let hime off so easy.

Posted by: Lisa at April 15, 2004 08:32 PM

The View was so unfair to Mike Moore.. It was disgusting

Posted by: Abe at April 15, 2004 08:33 PM

The View was just horrible to Michael Moore. Most unfair attacks I ever saw.

Posted by: danfishr at April 15, 2004 08:33 PM


Here is my first attempt of a Haiku on this blog.

The 700 Club Wants You
Fundamentalism a Tool for Control
Exchanging Minds for Souls

Posted by: LeftistIndependent at April 15, 2004 08:33 PM

I think what Sam was saying about people needing to see it goes into a deeper problem of educaiton. I'm 22 and the people I know who are neo-con's and who are not suspsect of this president. They have this over-idolized view of the president. It is the same view that these people imposed on Clinton when he had a BJ. However this is now being imposed on Bush in a different light where people see him as infallable. We as children build up these idealized views of the president and then we either attack or ignore these views when they are not fulfilled. These are people, people lie, people get BJ's, people are stupid.

Posted by: Lorenzo at April 15, 2004 08:33 PM

Star Jones has the most knee-jerk, uninformed opinions ever

Posted by: themeangreen at April 15, 2004 08:33 PM

i would watch a Joy Behar show,
but i wont watch THE VIEW

Posted by: n69n at April 15, 2004 08:33 PM

SORRY JOY:

Your co-worker, Star Jones, is a full-on patholigical idiot. YOU, I like.

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at April 15, 2004 08:33 PM

......I drink cofee in bookstore....yay.

Posted by: wanda at April 15, 2004 08:33 PM

The country is getting dumber, and the right wing is counting on it.

Posted by: catalexis at April 15, 2004 08:33 PM

good change, joy... i agree, don't make her trash talk her co-workers... YAY teachers!!!! get a librarian on the show as a guest if you really want a good, pissed off, real-life perspective on the Patriot Act!

Posted by: lil ms cranky pants at April 15, 2004 08:33 PM

Is Elizabeth the young blonde?

Posted by: Abe at April 15, 2004 08:33 PM

There doesn't have to be a balance on television and in fact there isn't a balance. The corporate sponsors demand the right-wing is predominant.

Posted by: Gregory Wonderwheel at April 15, 2004 08:33 PM

make that pathoLOgical

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at April 15, 2004 08:33 PM

Woot red sox are winning!

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:33 PM

conservatives are the ones that cut and paste term papers

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:33 PM

just fyi, despite my appreciation for Joy and Meredith, after they hired Elisabeth I could no longer stomach The View.

Posted by: cms at April 15, 2004 08:33 PM

Star Jones also said Atheist are not patriotic.

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:33 PM

Is Liz really a homophobe? That stinks -- I always liked her on Survivor.

Marlana, the song was "Super Bon Bon" by Soul Coughing.

Posted by: Insomnicole at April 15, 2004 08:34 PM

Sanity Joy! Critical thinking. Ah! Yes. What is that in our culture any more?

Posted by: BuckFush at April 15, 2004 08:34 PM

Joy, There's balance and there's enthusing over the president's cock!

Posted by: eliot at April 15, 2004 08:34 PM

Yeah...naw but book stores are the new library! People peruse but don't take books home anymore in my opinion.

Posted by: gayest neil at April 15, 2004 08:34 PM

I always though "The View" was boring.

Posted by: LeftistIndependent at April 15, 2004 08:34 PM

Turning "Liberal" into a nasty word was quite the feat. Maybe Reagan's biggest coup. Rightists coopting the term "Conservative" was a fair slight of hand as well. At least Franco had the guts to call himself a facist ...

Posted by: Ben in Monterey at April 15, 2004 08:34 PM

Go Red Sox!

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:34 PM

jojo: that works too ^_^

Posted by: FlamingBuddha at April 15, 2004 08:34 PM

Was it not Star Jones who said she "would never vote for an atheist?" What an idiot that woman is. Ignorant shoe seller.

Posted by: James at April 15, 2004 08:34 PM

Yeah JG my favorite!

Posted by: catalexis at April 15, 2004 08:34 PM

The FCC sucks!!!

Posted by: Wole' Parks at April 15, 2004 08:34 PM

This may sound like dirty pool, but maybe the left could use its own right-wing version of Alan Colmes. Someone who brings up all the right wing arguments, and is always shot down.

Of course, anyone who thinks on their toes can stomp a conservative flat.

Posted by: Forrest Gabitsch at April 15, 2004 08:34 PM

I blame Bush that I haven't been able to afford food in the last 2 days.

Posted by: DannySully at April 15, 2004 08:34 PM

Janeane rules!

Posted by: Frank at April 15, 2004 08:34 PM

Ask Joy Behar if she could get the View to invite Kerry on the show?

Posted by: Tony_In_MS at April 15, 2004 08:34 PM

Thinking is bad because you may have a thought the establishment doesn't like. Be fearful and consume.

Posted by: ArizonaLiberal at April 15, 2004 08:34 PM

Marlana, that song was by Soul Coughing. I believe it is called "Move Aside". I'm positive on the band, not so positive on the title.

Posted by: SocialistDemInDC at April 15, 2004 08:34 PM

They attacked Stern on view. NOT JOY the other two. Ask her!

Posted by: BuckFush at April 15, 2004 08:34 PM

Screwed up the first sentence, I meant that when he was talking about the whatever % it was that needs to see to believe and that does not believe the president is manipulating.

Posted by: Lorenzo at April 15, 2004 08:34 PM

Forrest - that's a great idea.

Posted by: Wole' Parks at April 15, 2004 08:35 PM

poor lady mcbeth
trash can echoes my own lies
*sniff* out! out! damned stench!

matt drudge not kevr0n

Posted by: matt drudge not kevr0n at April 15, 2004 08:35 PM

abe;

Yes Elizabeth the young blonde. Conservative. Not dumb. But not as sharp as Joy.

Posted by: spocko at April 15, 2004 08:35 PM

Come on, SAM and JANEANE...
DONALD RUMSFELD:

"People are fungible."

"Fungible" -- "interchangeable"

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at April 15, 2004 08:35 PM

If most TV balances out its right-wing views with a right-of-center voice, why can't liberals balance out its left-of-center views with good, wholesome solid liberal truth?

Posted by: DL at April 15, 2004 08:35 PM

http://slate.msn.com/id/2098921/

Bush won't admit mistakes, because the polls say he shouldn't.

Posted by: TopheDaddy at April 15, 2004 08:35 PM

Apparently there's a five second delay on the blog as well because of malicious posters.
that's no bueno!

Posted by: gayest neil at April 15, 2004 08:35 PM

i would watch a balanced discussion involving conservatives and liberals
but the view is not balanced
i wish it were, joy

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:35 PM
Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:35 PM

I am listening at home this evening in Clifton Park, NY. This community is built largely on GOP "sheep." I have felt so completely alone until you guys signed on! You have helped my spirit to soar, despite the Bush Cartel's death- grip on the world. If only we could accomplish three things: Indict! Impeach! Incarcerate! You guys are the best!!!!!!!!

Austin

Posted by: Austin Moran at April 15, 2004 08:35 PM

Heh, damn my slow connection. ;)

Posted by: SocialistDemInDC at April 15, 2004 08:35 PM

Yes, I am greatly saddened by the abuse of faith. I wish we could give both Biblical and Koranic fundamentalists their own planet to fight on. Even a small island would do; they really represent a small minority of believers - they simply have little trouble saying and doing the unthinkable.

Posted by: read 5 at April 15, 2004 08:35 PM

Thank you, Insomnicole, I haven't heard that song in ages and not being able to remember the name was killing me!

Posted by: Marlana at April 15, 2004 08:35 PM

Elizabet is not informed. on VIEW (lol) no critical thought from her.

Posted by: BuckFush at April 15, 2004 08:36 PM

Sorry. As a man, I do not feel at liberty to use the "B" word.

Posted by: ed in dallas at April 15, 2004 08:36 PM

They're SLEEPING TOGETHER!

Posted by: Wole' Parks at April 15, 2004 08:36 PM

you don't recklessly accuse your own team of fouls, however it is quit acceptable to hollar all day right or wrong. money is media's friend and money is a friend to the right, ie our news is slanted.

Posted by: blklng at April 15, 2004 08:36 PM

Fungible means that one is as good as another. A dollar bill is fungible because one can be used just as well as another.

Posted by: Gregory Wonderwheel at April 15, 2004 08:36 PM

stopfcc.com sign up now

Posted by: ArizonaLiberal at April 15, 2004 08:36 PM

Joy.... You need your own show!!!! You would be great. You dont belong on the corporate run media!!!

Posted by: Lisa at April 15, 2004 08:36 PM

that young blonde is a moron...she is always fighting to try to get a word in

Posted by: Abe at April 15, 2004 08:36 PM

... oh gawd...

Posted by: wanda at April 15, 2004 08:36 PM

The very fact of calling it "being criticized" implies that liberal views like Janeane's are outside the pale, and the status-quo resists it. (The advertiser-driven media status-quo, not the social status-quo.) If there were a truly liberal media (views from all sides and extremes) one couldn't be "criticized" for controversial views, one would be debated on them. Watch that newspeak....

Posted by: Scott Lahteine at April 15, 2004 08:36 PM

Elisabeth has repeatedly made hateful comments about gays and lesbians. She has forced me to stop watching the view! I wish she never would have "survived"

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:36 PM

NO...IM SLEEPING WITH JANEANE!!!

Posted by: samhain at April 15, 2004 08:37 PM

Janeane: Don't let her have an inch. Institutional bias is pervasive in all the media. Who has spoken out against the war. Nail her down; has SHE spoken out against the war!!!!

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at April 15, 2004 08:37 PM

They ARE sleeping together. The bummer is they just sleep.

Posted by: Mr. Liberal at April 15, 2004 08:37 PM

I have "news" for Joy. She and everyone but Lisa gladly trashed Jane Fonda far worse than anyone on Fox could. Joy thought she was cute, funny and insightful. She was offensive, so was Meredith, so was Star. It was so bad, even Bill noted it. So bad, that the next day Barbara Walters had to address it (she hadn't been on the previous day's show). Lisa was offended by the conversation. (And was the only one of the ladies who bothered to respond in an e-mail. Which was greatly appreciated.)
So Joy needs to be a little honest about whether or not there is a rightward slant to The View and quit talking about how radio and TV is different.
When they laughed (after repeatedly attacking Fonda) that now Fonda would never be on the show, Bill quickly agreed.
Oh Joy doesn't read her e-mail. Well then have ABC pull off your e-mail address. (And that's in contrast to her shtick about all the porn junk e-mails she got -- a routine she did repeatedly on The View.)

Posted by: Jake at April 15, 2004 08:37 PM

Back up back up bud
clone your hardrive fer sure
you got to have style

Beauty of a guest guys

Posted by: Shadow Webmaster at April 15, 2004 08:37 PM

I'm gettin' in late, so maybe I mised it, but please...
At some point tonight, talk about General Electric.

SEEEeeeeeeeeeriously.

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040330/305171_1.html


And please, let's all meditate on the difference between the following two lines of text:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
multicultural radio broadcasting
MultiCultural Radio Broadcasting®
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Thank you.
As you were.

Posted by: TreeHuggrrrrrrr at April 15, 2004 08:37 PM

WAR IS TERROISM WAR IS TERROISM

WWW.WARRESISTERS.ORG

WWW.WARRESISTERS.ORG

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:37 PM

HEY SAM

Please don't forget about DC today, on tax day. We pay taxes, serve on juries, yet have no vote in Congress.

www.DCVote.org

TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION

Voting rights for DC now!

Posted by: SocialistDemInDC at April 15, 2004 08:37 PM

I honestly can't stand mainstream televised media. I don't care if it is considered "Liberal" or not. Better to just get your information on the internet.

Posted by: LeftistIndependent at April 15, 2004 08:38 PM

the problem with the view is that there is no critical thinking at all, no use of evidence, research...they just slosh out whatever the first thing is that comes to their heads

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:38 PM

jeneane and i don't do much SLEEPIN'!

kevr0n

Posted by: kevr0n at April 15, 2004 08:38 PM

Janeane,

Just a quick correction on the pronounciation of "Manichean." Phonetically, it's either -manna key an- or -manna chee an-.

Perfect contextual use of the term however. :)

Keep up the great work!

Peace, Jim Keady, Educating for Justice

Posted by: Jim Keady at April 15, 2004 08:38 PM
Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:38 PM

ya gotta see this
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/true911.html

Posted by: john mitchel at April 15, 2004 08:38 PM

Hi Joy. I like you the best on the View. You have the most intelligent witty comments and questions for the guests.


Who the heck is that Elizabeth person on the show? She was the worst one on the try-outs for the show! yuk!
I was very upset with how Michael Moore was treated on the View. You guys should have treated Bill O'Reilly as such. Just my opinion.

Posted by: blondesense at April 15, 2004 08:39 PM

I like this show. Janeane is cute, and really...isn't that all that matters?

Posted by: Tim X! at April 15, 2004 08:39 PM

JOY...Why is that HOMOPHOBIC BITCH ELIZABETH still on the View? She is so ignorant! Why give hate a platform on a show that was intended to be inteligent,liberal and open minded? I can not watch the show until she is gone!

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:39 PM

Is Elisabeth on the view really homophobic?

Posted by: Tony_In_MS at April 15, 2004 08:39 PM

Art Bell Dosn't use a call screener, he takes calls live as they come in and he gets some pretty werid callers like JT. who goes off on Art Bell to the point the listeners laughs at JT not with him.

Janine is the female Seinfeld.

Posted by: David at April 15, 2004 08:39 PM

but your listening abe why?

Posted by: ArizonaLiberal at April 15, 2004 08:39 PM

some lady called a show on cspan today and said something like "why did clinton make it so the intelligence agencies couldn't communicate, how do we stop that from happening again. they can't take away our precious patriot act"

janet reno under oath said they were not prevented from sharing information

the bush propaganda is scary

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:39 PM
Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:39 PM

Mystery Men Rocks!

Posted by: catalexis at April 15, 2004 08:39 PM

ask her! About Micahel Moore!!! C'mon Sam!!!!

Posted by: BuckFush at April 15, 2004 08:39 PM

Ask Joy what is here opinion of the 9/11 commission hearings. What does she think they should be asking?

Posted by: spocko at April 15, 2004 08:39 PM

Janeane! My favorite slam was earlier when you were described as a lesbian hair dyed drunk girly girl something or anohter by a troll.
I punched it in the eye for that!

and pulled his hair.

Posted by: gayest neil at April 15, 2004 08:39 PM

Hatred and anger can be as addictive as nicotine and heroin. It's all a matter of using it to avoid feeling other feelings, usually inferiority

Posted by: JJ at April 15, 2004 08:39 PM
Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:40 PM

Liberal talk welcome here:
http://pub112.ezboard.com/blondonaftermidnight
Its a band message board, (the band London After Midnight) but the band is very into politics.

Posted by: me at April 15, 2004 08:40 PM

The guest on the show is homophobic?

Posted by: LeftistIndependent at April 15, 2004 08:40 PM

DONT take calls, the blog is enough

Posted by: n69n at April 15, 2004 08:40 PM

Janeane was perhaps was perhaps the first American celeb to discuss a libearal view on CBC up here in Canada.

Posted by: KC at April 15, 2004 08:40 PM

THERE should be a Blogger.....messagin in.
asking question....

Posted by: wanda at April 15, 2004 08:40 PM

The truth about Cats and Dogs was so cute though Janeane. And yes she is cute. I think I like her with blonde hair. Plus glasses are a big turn on.

Posted by: DannySully at April 15, 2004 08:40 PM

You think this is concious? Hoo boy do we have you fooled.

Posted by: catalexis at April 15, 2004 08:40 PM

i agree sam, it is harder to talk when you call in
plus no waiting

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:40 PM

Go Red SOX!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:40 PM

Dogma wasn't mediocre. You should have had the lead. That other woman was wooden and uninspired.

Posted by: Vioxel (vee-OAK-sel) at April 15, 2004 08:40 PM

Tim X: yes. that's all that matters.

Posted by: kmj at April 15, 2004 08:40 PM

not as good as Mystery Men

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:40 PM

I LOVE WET HOT AMERICAN SUMMER!!

Posted by: Drew at April 15, 2004 08:40 PM

Tonight on Frontline....

"The Man Who Knew"

The story of John O'Neill, the very first person to sound the warnings about the Bush administration and Director Freeh....

He paid with his life in the WTC on Sept. 11th, 2001.....if nothing else, see this program so you know about his service to this country...

Posted by: Nazgul35 at April 15, 2004 08:40 PM

YEAH GREAT MOVIE!!!! i hope that wasnt sarcastic

Posted by: er at April 15, 2004 08:41 PM

No need to take calls. Just read emails that you find interesting, amusing, pertinent, etc. Saves time and weeds out the freaks. Thanks and keep up the great work.

Posted by: Joe at April 15, 2004 08:41 PM

jeneane
i know you're talkin' 'bout me, your fantasy lover!

kevr0n

Posted by: kevr0n at April 15, 2004 08:41 PM

>>Janine is the female Seinfeld.<<

NO! WAY BETTER...


JJ -- great post about hatred and anger

Sam, say my name -- lil ms cranky pants! say it! I command you!

Posted by: lil ms cranky pants at April 15, 2004 08:41 PM

WET HOT AMERICAN SUMMER IS HILARIOUS. i want you inside me... what? Oh hey.

Posted by: Lorenzo at April 15, 2004 08:41 PM

ArizonaLiberal what are you taling about? im talking about the young blonde on the view

Posted by: Abe at April 15, 2004 08:41 PM

WOW! WOW! WOW!

Those of you who post disparaging remarks riddled with epithets and wacky grammar are a hoot! I dig your passion! I understand you. I do. I know how it is when your only creative outlet is the outgoing message on your answering machine. "I can't get to the phone right now. I'm pounding your mom. Leave a message. Thanks."

Keep up the great work guys and remember: The truth is no match for your hatred and anger! No it's not. Oh, no it's not.

BTW, congratulations on not being Left Behind. Score!

Posted by: rererereredux at April 15, 2004 08:41 PM

Why watch the apprentice?
What a joke!
Trump is a rich pig who uses money for the worst reasons.

Posted by: Gregory Wonderwheel at April 15, 2004 08:41 PM

Wooohooooo!
Janeane just sent a shout-out to the bloggers!

We rock. >;)

Posted by: TreeHuggrrrrrrr at April 15, 2004 08:41 PM

Joy,

When The View first came on, it was a wonderful show, thoughtful, funny, warm. Then after about a month it changed and suddenly it was all trash talk, lowest common denominator crap, "hot topic," idiot Meredith Vieira constantly aggressing on everyone, and Star Jones talking about money, jewelry, money, money. And so I stopped watching.

Posted by: maria la place at April 15, 2004 08:41 PM

yeah, dont take calls, coz it would just be 5 mins of "i love you janeane, i love you janeane"

time is too valuable.

Posted by: n69n at April 15, 2004 08:41 PM

money loves media and money loves the right, media loves to go as far as money allows...

Posted by: blklng at April 15, 2004 08:41 PM

Oh, come on. Guys like BOOBIES! Deal with it!

Posted by: RDS at April 15, 2004 08:41 PM

joy can defend her show and trumpet her liberalism all she likes, but i have to say when i saw michael moore on the show all the ladies were taking pot shots andtrying to belittle or make light of his positions. i think joy likes the sound of her own voice because if she were as left leaning as she'd have us believe she'd have at least taken up for her guest instead of joining the chorus of the other yentas trying to make him look rediculous.

Posted by: mochael olladwyne at April 15, 2004 08:41 PM

can some of stop being in the attack mode? It's really a waste of blog time. If you have a criticism, please be constructive!

Posted by: Joy in Santa Cruz too at April 15, 2004 08:41 PM

Let's go Red Sox let's go!!!!

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:41 PM

MONEY !!!!!!!

You're fired !!!!!

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:41 PM

Best Seinfeld episode....ever

Posted by: Mister Peanut at April 15, 2004 08:41 PM

It's satire . it's protected under free speak "Even if the object or the satire doesn't get it."

Posted by: DannySully at April 15, 2004 08:41 PM

Reality TV is the new low of American culture!!!

Posted by: Abe at April 15, 2004 08:42 PM

I like the phony ads they get better and better.

Posted by: PatLovesJaneane at April 15, 2004 08:42 PM

Won't watch "Reality" TV at gun point.

Posted by: catalexis at April 15, 2004 08:42 PM

From IDURO by William Gibson:

"The mass television audience is best visualized as a vicious, lazy, profoundly ignorant, perpetually hungry organism craving the warm gut flesh of the anointed. Imagine something the size of a baby hippo, the color of a week old boiled potato, that lives by itself in the dark in a double-wide on the outskirts of Topeka. It's covered with eyes and it sweats constantly. The sweat runs into its eyes and makes them sting. It has no mouth, no genitals, and can only express its mute extremes of murderous rage and infantile desire by changing the channels on a universal remote, or by voting in presidential elections."

Posted by: Austin Tom at April 15, 2004 08:42 PM

Joy you are right about the Apprentice!

Posted by: Gregory Wonderwheel at April 15, 2004 08:42 PM

Sam: No amount of callers could equate to the world's best free-form liberal blog - THE MAJORITY REPORT BLOG. Tell her. Go ahead - TELL her !!!!

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at April 15, 2004 08:42 PM

more Joy!

Joy, we need more informed voices!

Posted by: n69n at April 15, 2004 08:42 PM

nice WHAS reference. i did go to the midnight WHAS in Boston. you know your fans.

Posted by: Matt at April 15, 2004 08:42 PM

kevr0n: But would you love her if she looked like, Uma Thurman? I think not.

Posted by: spocko at April 15, 2004 08:42 PM

The Blog is great. Forget taking calls. You do great without them. We have heard enough from right wing morons. You are right that there is no debate that takes place with these calls from listeners. keep hyaving good guests and let them talk

Posted by: Barbara at April 15, 2004 08:42 PM

....SO we have a new co-Host now? boy ARR must be bounching check left and right :p

Posted by: wanda at April 15, 2004 08:42 PM

Frontline -- YES -- I hate to suggest something opposite MRR, which I love, but everyone needs to try to catch the Frontline tonight or else a repeat. It's important to the whole 9/11 picture.

Posted by: cms at April 15, 2004 08:42 PM

Now your getting it Sam. ROY-ters....ROY-ters....

Posted by: PatLovesJaneane at April 15, 2004 08:42 PM

That picture of the "Apprenti" was for FHM magazine, and the NY Post ran it on page 3. And I think it was the day after Condi testified.

Posted by: Terry Gabis at April 15, 2004 08:43 PM

Yes Star & Elizabeth show very little tolerance or knowledge. Remind me of those I know who get all their info From FOX news/cable news. No room for good ol' critical thought.

Posted by: BuckFush at April 15, 2004 08:43 PM

Oh god, greg synamone has gotten on Air America now to.

Posted by: Zeit at April 15, 2004 08:43 PM

Wet Hot American Summer

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0243655/combined

Posted by: Emelius Browne at April 15, 2004 08:43 PM

Great Gallup Poll Posted on Polling Report

http://www.pollingreport.com

http://www.pollingreport.com/gallery/

Posted by: not_bush_2004 at April 15, 2004 08:43 PM

blog only show leaves out non-internet users
the radio listeners need a voice too

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:43 PM

I wish the blog was an irc chat room. At least then i'd be able to keep up.

Posted by: Morgan at April 15, 2004 08:43 PM

Elisabeth donates cash and time to several anti-gay groups.

Posted by: janet at April 15, 2004 08:43 PM

>can some of stop being in the attack mode? It's really a waste of blog time. If you have a criticism, please be constructive!

I have to agree. There is alot of bitterness tonight for no apparent reason. O.o

Posted by: KC at April 15, 2004 08:43 PM

We like to see Boobies on radio...! (hmm, that doesn't sound terribly good is it?)

Posted by: wanda at April 15, 2004 08:43 PM

It's nice to see that Donald Trump is anti-Bush. If more people that watch that type of inane TV can either: 1. Begin to think, or 2. Just follow Donald in their beliefs, maybe we can get some of that half of America to vote intelligently in November.

Keep it up!! Awesome, period.

Posted by: Tom in NYC at April 15, 2004 08:43 PM

blog is like a crappy irc

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:44 PM

I cant imagine that Joy would go on as a guest here if she didn't agree at least somewhat with the viewpoints of the hosts. I imagine that there is a lot of pressure on her, from the producers and other hosts on the show..To stand up for non mainstream views on the view would be courageous, but probably not the best career move.

I guess thats why they call it "The View", and not "The Views".

Posted by: Mr Peanut at April 15, 2004 08:44 PM

jeneane's sexy eyes and her sexy smile and that alabaster skin and those freckles and that sexy voice...back in 5!

kevr0n

Posted by: kevr0n at April 15, 2004 08:44 PM

Gack! IDORU!

Posted by: Austin Tom at April 15, 2004 08:44 PM

so this is the blog? nice. Scumbo supports Air America.

Posted by: Scumbo Rocks at April 15, 2004 08:44 PM

best seinfeld germs/ garbage disposal in shower

Posted by: cbsturf at April 15, 2004 08:44 PM

LET'S REMEMBER THAT THE DEMOCRATS VOTED FOR THIS WAR

OCTOBER 2002 WAR RESOLUTION WAS A VOTE FOR WAR - KERRY CLINTON AND ALOT OF DEMOCRATS VOTED FOR THIS WAR-- PART OF SKULL AND BONES JOHN KERRY VOTED FOR NAFTA CLINTON VOTED FOR 1996 BILL FOR CONSOLDITION OF MEDIA.

DENNIS KUCINICH IS THE ONLY DEMOCRAT FOR PRESIDENT THAT I TRUST THE REST ARE PROBABLY POLITRICKSTERS WWW.ADDICTEDTOWAR.COM

Posted by: JOE at April 15, 2004 08:44 PM

i don't think joy hires the co hosts

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:44 PM

irc://thebird.org/bartcop

Posted by: IRC Chatroom at April 15, 2004 08:44 PM

coal mines
i'm a canary
thanks bud

Posted by: Shadow Webmaster at April 15, 2004 08:44 PM

Majority Report is MUST LISTENING for anyone pretending to get a "liberal arts" (and sciences?) education.

Janeane and Sam,

This being 15 April, will you set an example for George Walker Bush, Richard Bruce Cheney, Donald Henry Rumsfeld, and Colin Luther Powell----war criminals all!-----and publish copies of your Forms 1040 and associated forms?


Posted by: Mitch in RocklinCA at April 15, 2004 08:44 PM

Joy and Elizabeth are lesbian lovers

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:44 PM

Love the Apprentice parody, Ben Cohen rocks!

Posted by: Marlana at April 15, 2004 08:44 PM

Yeah, Majority Report could use a chat room.

Posted by: PatLovesJaneane at April 15, 2004 08:44 PM

The best thing about Star Jones is that she makes jokes for late night TV.

Jimmy Kimmel makes fun of her about every night.

Posted by: Gregory Wonderwheel at April 15, 2004 08:45 PM

Which one on the View is Elisabeth?

Posted by: Tony_In_MS at April 15, 2004 08:45 PM

The people who are dissing Joy for taking pot shots at Moore et al., miss the point -- she's the real comedian on the show. She takes pot shots at EVERYONE. That's what comedians do.

Posted by: cms at April 15, 2004 08:45 PM

yes wet hot american summer is a great film. Janeane's finest work. The movie's just too canadian for Americans to appreciate. One day we'll reach their level of humor. one day. I heard Ashcroft loves that movie.

Posted by: Mike Jones at April 15, 2004 08:45 PM

Joy must defeat President Bush !!!!

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:45 PM

Sound files from the movie 'Network'. 'Beale visits Jensen' explains everything.

www.howardbeale.net

Posted by: Hackett at April 15, 2004 08:45 PM

Saw that Frontline already. TAPE & watch. Randi recomended today. The lovely & talented Randi Rhodes. Love her laugh.

Posted by: BuckFush at April 15, 2004 08:45 PM

Jumping back to a few minutes ago to say that Janeane's TRUTH ABOUT CATS AND DOGS is one of my favorite fluff movies. And she was a radio personality there, too -- and a good one BOTH places :-)

Posted by: Kate Anne at April 15, 2004 08:45 PM

Boobes are over rated in my opinion.

And yeah It is pretty hard to keep up with a blog.

Posted by: DannySully at April 15, 2004 08:45 PM

After hearing a couple of the nutballs Randi got today, I definitely think the "no calls" policy is the way to go. It's easier (and more fun) to follow along with the blog anyhow.

Posted by: Insomnicole at April 15, 2004 08:45 PM

OT,
Believe it or not, the "Counter Clinton Library" has received tax exempt status....How pathological is that?

http://www.counterclintonlibrary.com/cgi-data/news/files/22.shtml

Eddie

Posted by: Eddie at April 15, 2004 08:45 PM

Check out my Bush Meltdown Minimix MP3 at

http://bradley.chicago.il.us/meltdown/


Posted by: Kenward at April 15, 2004 08:45 PM

Don't bother with the calls. Who wants to hear from some no-life loser that can hang on hold for hours or has no computer access?

Posted by: Joe at April 15, 2004 08:45 PM

Yeah, Majority Report could use a chat room.
Posted by PatLovesJaneane at April 15, 2004 08:44 PM
****************************************************

i second that

Posted by: Leftistindependent at April 15, 2004 08:45 PM

which one is Elisabeth? The vacuous, uber-republican one.

Posted by: cms at April 15, 2004 08:46 PM

feh. to hell with the apprentice. if i wanted to see people behaving as poorly as possible i'd work at the board of trade or go live at home. watch frontline tonight instead!

Posted by: Morgan at April 15, 2004 08:46 PM

Okay, I'll show my cultural ignorance. What in the world is The View?

Posted by: Vioxel (vee-OAK-sel) at April 15, 2004 08:46 PM

Everyone must see this...
NOW with Bill Moyers is not archiving shows to watch online

You guys need to wathc the last two, March 26 deals with Bush's agenda with private schools and the April 4 show deals with Bush trying to develop new underground atomic facilities

http://www.pbs.org/now/thisweek/archive.html

Posted by: Abe at April 15, 2004 08:46 PM

I liked that movie with Owen Wilson, "The Minus Man"?

Posted by: DevastatorJr. at April 15, 2004 08:46 PM

joy is the least likely on the show to kiss bab's ass
give her props for that
lots of pressure to kiss the queens ass i'm sure

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:46 PM

Hey what was that exit song from? That (I swear) was from the exit tune of a hipster movie.

What was it????

I want to say it was a Kevin Smith or John Cusack film. HELP ME! Tune Amnesia rotting my BRAINS!

Posted by: Michael at April 15, 2004 08:46 PM

if star jones had a nickle for every joke that's been made about her, she could stop shillin' shoes!

kevr0n

Posted by: kevr0n at April 15, 2004 08:46 PM

>> Yeah, Majority Report could use a chat room.

I think there is a IRC room, in undernet.

Posted by: wanda at April 15, 2004 08:46 PM

only having blogging helps keep the show free to stay on topic. Sometimes shows with call-ins get off track.

Posted by: jigsaw68 at April 15, 2004 08:46 PM

Joy should get a Kerry heart tattoo

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:46 PM

we could set up a chat room. I dont know how hard it is to get a server but i'll look into it.

Posted by: Morgan at April 15, 2004 08:46 PM

Bush protects us by leaving nuclear sites unguarded in Iraq. Nuclear material is being stolen by terrorists and anyone else who wants it. In Afghanistan, record poppy crops are funding terrorists.


this is how half witted idiots manage the world. Pure chaos, pure folly.George Bush has openened the gates of hell

Posted by: Barbara at April 15, 2004 08:47 PM

I like Joy, but The View is unwatchable. Michael Moore, when he was first on the show, talked about how great it was to have a consistent female point of view to TV news, and I agreed, but they've really sold all of that out.

Posted by: eliot at April 15, 2004 08:47 PM

I wish you liberals would get a life already! George W Bush is an American hero! I am so proud to live in a country where we have such a strong and decisive leader at the helm. I look forward to his reelection landslide (God told Pat Robertson himself) and I'll proudly be wearing my American flag on my lapel until the end of time.

Posted by: Self loathing at April 15, 2004 08:47 PM

I call for a vote on the chat room idea! Do you think we can get one set up for tomorrow?

Posted by: Tony_In_MS at April 15, 2004 08:47 PM

Wow Red Wine!

Joy! Watch out! They found Mustard Gas in a TURKEY FARM!!!!!!!

Posted by: gayest neil at April 15, 2004 08:47 PM

Elizabeth has even said that she thinks homosexuals are "criminals and perverts" and that god told her that she must stand up for the "traditional human relationship"

Posted by: janet at April 15, 2004 08:47 PM

http://www.trumpfiresbush.com/

Video to match that Apprentice Trump Fires Bush thing.

if only that were all it took...

Posted by: Liberal Threat at April 15, 2004 08:47 PM

HEY CMS >>> Joy defended Michael Moore. You got it wrong. It was the other three who jumped him & were just wrong too.

Posted by: BuckFush at April 15, 2004 08:47 PM

by Morgan at April 15, 2004 08:46 PM

Okay, I'll show my cultural ignorance. What in the world is The View?
Posted by Vioxel (vee-OAK-sel) at April 15, 2004 08:46 PM
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a boring tv show on abc

you are not missing out

Posted by: Leftistindependent at April 15, 2004 08:47 PM

Please discuss,

Remarks yesterday by Kerry

KERRY: "I think the vast majority of the American people understand that it's important to not just cut and run. I don't believe in a cut-and-run philosophy."

... show that he is not leaving himself an OUT in case Bush/Rummy screw things up so bad by November that the only sensible thing to do is, indeed, get the heck out. I understand he needs to maintain an equal military bravado with Bush, but he needs that OUT!

Posted by: Fishgrease at April 15, 2004 08:48 PM

Joy please send me a check

Jeff Seemann for Congress

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:48 PM

Vee-Oak-Sel, it's one o' them that daytime shows. Barbara Walters and stuff.

I've only watched it a couple times.

Meh. Not my style.

Posted by: TreeHuggrrrrrrr at April 15, 2004 08:48 PM

WWW.DECEPTIONDOLLAR.COM CHECK OUT GREAT LINKS YOU WILL LOVE THE PICTURE OF BUSH.

Posted by: JOE at April 15, 2004 08:48 PM

joy, you are amazing! The perfect voice for radio! Join the crew, change the world or at least the radio!

Posted by: vega at April 15, 2004 08:48 PM

>NOW with Bill Moyers is not archiving shows to watch online *snip*

"Not" archiving?

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:48 PM

Leftistindependent: Ah, okie. Thanks. :-)

Posted by: Vioxel (vee-OAK-sel) at April 15, 2004 08:48 PM

Cant we all just get along?

Posted by: AIR HIZZLE at April 15, 2004 08:48 PM

Joe you are right.
Kucinich is the only Democrat who is for banning all depleted uranium weapons.

http://www.kucinich.us/issues/depleted_uranium.php

The United States must order an end to illegal use of depleted uranium munitions and lead an international effort to recover depleted uranium. We must promote environmental remediation. Also, we must develop a program to provide care and restitution for people suffering as a result of the United States' use of depleted uranium munitions, nuclear weapons, nuclear weapons production, nuclear testing, and uranium mining.

Through four wars (Gulf War I, Sarajevo, Afghanistan, and Gulf War II), the U.S. military has deployed tons of nuclear tank missiles of depleted uranium (DU), which are solid 10-pound uranium bullets made from radioactive waste from the U.S. Department of Energy's uranium enrichment process. At least 350 tons of solid radioactive uranium remains in Iraq after Gulf War I, and 2,000 more tons of radioactive rubble has been added from our present Gulf War II. Depleted uranium has a half-life of 4.5 billion years.

Posted by: Gregory Wonderwheel at April 15, 2004 08:48 PM

Jesus was in Greece?

Posted by: wanda at April 15, 2004 08:49 PM

I meant "Them Thar".

My keyboard is possessed.
Deh.

Posted by: TreeHuggrrrrrrr at April 15, 2004 08:49 PM

BuckFush-- I didn't see the show, I was only responding to the comments here complaining about Joy and Moore. Glad to hear she stuck up for him.

Posted by: cms at April 15, 2004 08:49 PM

the PDB should have been in crayon. The pretty colors would have caught W's attention. :)

Posted by: jigsaw68 at April 15, 2004 08:49 PM

The View is show my Mom watchs every day, along with Regis & Kelly. Get it?

Posted by: BuckFush at April 15, 2004 08:49 PM

dennis kucinich is the only democrat for DEMOCRACY

Posted by: jojo at April 15, 2004 08:49 PM

hey joe
the congress didn't know that bush was relying on false wmd rumors
now they do

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:49 PM

Give Joy her own show !!!

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:49 PM

Ephesus----and early outpost of Christians. The apostle Paul wrote there in Ephesians....

Posted by: backlash at April 15, 2004 08:50 PM

The Passion is really just a splatter flick pretending to be a religious film.

Gibson is a flaggalating fascist.

Posted by: Gregory Wonderwheel at April 15, 2004 08:50 PM

Chatty stand-up is the best. Let's evolve past "take my wife," please.

Posted by: Forrest Gabitsch at April 15, 2004 08:50 PM


Janeane: my passion joke is:

I'm all for carrying a cross, being whipped infront of staring Italian men...but my people call that foreplay!

Posted by: gayest neil at April 15, 2004 08:50 PM

Do we really have to open the Counter Reagan Library? *Sigh* ... so muich work to do...

Posted by: Ronnie Raygun at April 15, 2004 08:50 PM

TreeHuggrrrrrrr: Oh, yeah. Okay. I remember something about Walters starting a show.

Posted by: Vioxel (vee-OAK-sel) at April 15, 2004 08:50 PM

The problem with the View is that just when they get going on something evenly remotely topical and interesting, they cut to a shot of Star Jones' diamond and start talking about Payless

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:50 PM

Joy..! You have to get your own show!!! Your perfect

Posted by: Lisa at April 15, 2004 08:50 PM

bullcrap! Janeane's never not funny!!!

Posted by: Dr. Paul Armstrong at April 15, 2004 08:50 PM

Jesus was a psycho?

Posted by: wanda at April 15, 2004 08:50 PM

yes, go Joy --- go after Mel, the revisionist creep...

Posted by: lil ms cranky pants at April 15, 2004 08:50 PM

sam, before joy leaves, please let her know that many of us have so much respect for her, but THE VIEW doesnt reflect our....views.

Posted by: n69n at April 15, 2004 08:50 PM

self loathing
funny stuff! why don't most people realize that no nation can last forever. ask rome. ask carthage. ask babalon.

kevr0n

Posted by: kevr0n at April 15, 2004 08:50 PM

>I have to agree. There is alot of bitterness tonight for no apparent reason. O.o

Maybe Mercury is retrograde? Or maybe it's just that the level of frustration in this country as people are becoming more and more aware of what is going on is getting higher and higher....

Posted by: Joy in Santa Cruz too at April 15, 2004 08:50 PM

Who hates Elisabeth?

ME, NYC

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:50 PM

Joy you need to start airing your own opinion on the View... Why is everyone on television afraid of criticizing Bush?

Posted by: Abe at April 15, 2004 08:50 PM

One can also tell Kucinich is good by way of how little Corporate America has given him

Posted by: FlamingBuddha at April 15, 2004 08:50 PM

Please help with the tune id? What song did they play on the last commerical segue and which movie used it for the exit credits? (Chasing Amy I think??) Please god help me...

Posted by: Michael at April 15, 2004 08:50 PM

I tried stand up once and bombed completely. Probably because I was drug as crap though.

Posted by: DannySully at April 15, 2004 08:50 PM

Pulp Christian !!!

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:51 PM

Who hates Elisabeth?

ME, NYC

Posted by: louie at April 15, 2004 08:51 PM

I've always loved you,Janeane!

Posted by: Joe Ferraro at April 15, 2004 08:51 PM

Where is Ron Suskind...
Where is Ron Suskind...
Where is Ron Suskind...???

Posted by: RDS at April 15, 2004 08:51 PM

JESUS looked like HELL BOY at the end of movie. Bummed me out.

Posted by: BuckFush at April 15, 2004 08:51 PM

Janeane is so right, Gibson like Bush, is a dry drunk using religion to deny. !!!

Posted by: James at April 15, 2004 08:51 PM

Somebody please tell Sam that the fishing sound effect is very boring and old. Get a new punchline, please.

Posted by: Robert at April 15, 2004 08:51 PM

It's "Walking Tall". The Rock® and his Big Stick®.

I'm not interested, but I would like to let people know that I used to have a hamster named NATURE BOY RIC FLAIR! (true story)

Posted by: TreeHuggrrrrrrr at April 15, 2004 08:51 PM

I'm loving Air America. You guys are great! And I am so glad someone finally, FINALLY brought up the fact that the mess in Fallujah started with the massacre of 13 civilians by U.S. forces, albeit "accidently", which I saw in a very small article in our local newspaper(AZ Republic). Very small. I've been leaving "Google Fallujah Massacre!" on message boards, where the rhetoric is always "Nuke 'em off the face of the earth!", "em" meaning the citizens of Fallujah. When is Washington gonna get that we cannot turn the whole world into America?

Posted by: Gwen at April 15, 2004 08:51 PM

bush loves bombing, too, woah

now when someone asks me something i don't want to answer i say, "i'm sure something will pop into my head amongst all the pressure of this press conference."

Posted by: jojo at April 15, 2004 08:51 PM

J & S you are pronouncing "Bush" incorrectly. It should be pronounced "'frikinmo·ron"

Posted by: karlrover at April 15, 2004 08:51 PM

Who hates Elisabeth?

ME, NYC

Posted by: louie at April 15, 2004 08:51 PM

My "Passion" joke: If I'm going to spend two hours watching a guy get the shit kicked out of him, and it isn't Freddie Prinze, Jr., forget it.

Posted by: Forrest Gabitsch at April 15, 2004 08:51 PM

Sam, i think you are great. I love your voice its a real sexy radio voice and i love your sense of humor and opnions. this is a wonderful show. Keep up the great work

Posted by: Janine at April 15, 2004 08:51 PM

Paul - "Letter to the Ephesians."
There is a tomb of Mary there too, i think. which mary tho? oh yeah, mary magdalene emigrated to southern france and spawned a line of little jesus's ... holyblood holygrail... davinci code... sir laurence gardner. etc. whatever... i guess this qualifies as ...
"BLOG SMOG"! [friendly blog smog]

Posted by: twist at April 15, 2004 08:51 PM

>>> kevr0n

It's been MORE than 5 minutes !!!

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at April 15, 2004 08:51 PM

Janeane, I love your standup! You are a sardonic riot wrapped in a sarcastic confection and I LOVE IT!!!

Posted by: Gigi at April 15, 2004 08:51 PM

who on earth is Marlo and phil...? ehrrr.....

Posted by: wanda at April 15, 2004 08:51 PM

Mel Gibson's movie is going to be used for worship in mega-churches I bet. It is false idolatry.

Posted by: Hackett at April 15, 2004 08:51 PM

he's got a wife you know. incontinentia. incontinentia buttocks.

Posted by: jojo at April 15, 2004 08:51 PM

PONTIUS PILATE WAS FIRED by the Romans...
FOR EXCESSIVE BRUTALITY.

By the ROMANS.

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at April 15, 2004 08:51 PM

OH OH!! TALK ABOUT THE GOD-FEARING MOVIES!!

Posted by: gayest neil at April 15, 2004 08:52 PM

Pulp Christian appeals to the legionnaire in all of us

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:52 PM

Mel Gibson better use EVERY PENNY of his estimated 300 million in profit to FEED THE POOR, or else he is completely full of shit....

Posted by: Hardguy at April 15, 2004 08:52 PM

Joy,

I lived in Ankara for 9 years and speak Turkish.

If you did not get to Fethiye, you missed the garden spot of Turkey.

Only in Hawaii---so I am told, since I have never been there----can you look 10 meters down in the water and see through crystal-clear waters. Well, Fethiye (FET-heee-YEAH) is where the Mediterranean (Akdeniz) meets the Aegean (Ege), and its wonderful in September.

Iyi yolculuklar.

Posted by: Mitch in RocklinCA at April 15, 2004 08:52 PM

Probe Shows Iraq Nuke Facilities Unguarded http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-3981804,00.html

Posted by: Glows In The Dark at April 15, 2004 08:52 PM

GREGORY YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT D.U. WWW.ADDICTEDTOWAR.COM

WWW.WARRESISTERS.ORG

WWW.COSTOFWAR.COM

Posted by: JOE at April 15, 2004 08:52 PM

yeah fishgrease

Remarks yesterday by Kerry

KERRY: "I think the vast majority of the American people understand that it's important to not just cut and run. I don't believe in a cut-and-run philosophy."

kerry is VERY smart

have to make decisions based on current facts

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:52 PM

Vee-Oak-Sel,

The View is an ABC morning chat show which features female hosts from all over the spectrum. It was ABCs first success at a talk show after flops like Home, Mike & Maty, and Carol & Marylin: Best Friends. I personally dont care for it.

Posted by: PatLovesJaneane at April 15, 2004 08:52 PM

they are fueled by fear of pain and suffering

Posted by: blklng at April 15, 2004 08:52 PM

Mel Gibson is Opus Dei.

Posted by: Joy in Santa Cruz too at April 15, 2004 08:52 PM

actually, jews had lots of clout in judea during the roman occupation. seriously.

Posted by: jojo at April 15, 2004 08:52 PM

American Chritianity does not follow Jesus' dogma

Posted by: Abe at April 15, 2004 08:52 PM

The Passion is a snuff flick. I'm all for films about religion, but can we have one featuring the Sermon on the Mount? I prefer Rabbi Christ to Martyr Christ.

Posted by: Vioxel (vee-OAK-sel) at April 15, 2004 08:52 PM

Why doesn't Jesus eat M&Ms?

They fall through the holes in his hands.

I'm going straight to hell.

Posted by: DannySully at April 15, 2004 08:52 PM

Can we stop talking about films we haven't seen?

Posted by: Owain at April 15, 2004 08:52 PM

oh, come on sam, christ is fungible.

Posted by: jojo at April 15, 2004 08:52 PM

Did you see the South Park episode about The Passion?

Posted by: Robert at April 15, 2004 08:52 PM

>>some lady called a show on cspan today and said something like "why did clinton make it so the intelligence agencies couldn't communicate, how do we stop that from happening again. they can't take away our precious patriot act"

janet reno under oath said they were not prevented from sharing information

the bush propaganda is scary<<

Not just for public consumption, either. I just got to a part of Clarke's book today where he says that the Pentagon would tell Clinton they "couldn't" act because they had no plan/resources/likelihood of success, then would tell special forces that the WH "wouldn't" approve the mission to get a "high-ranking al-Qaida" target.

I was so pissed I had to put the book down. Wanna bet this was all part of the whole Arkansas Project as well? Make him look weak on defense by hamstringing him (even tho WJC approved all the orders, but classified so he can't mention) AND spread the malicious gossip that he is the timid Prez who "won't" approve the plans!!!

Posted by: RagingBQ at April 15, 2004 08:53 PM

She's right. Pontius Pilate was recalled to Rome and executed himself for his brutality.

Posted by: leftyleftist at April 15, 2004 08:53 PM

Ephesus - John the Evangelist brought Mother Mary (mother of Jesus) to Ephesus following Jesus' crucifixion. Mary's House is in the mountains just outside of Ephesus. It has been recognized as the actual house where Mother Mary lived out the rest of her life.

Posted by: pezwaldo at April 15, 2004 08:53 PM

thank you....not all Christians are right-wing nut-bags. I haven't even had the desire to see Mel's movie

Posted by: backlash at April 15, 2004 08:53 PM

Tuesday's Puss Conference took me back to a classic SNL sketch.
Dana Carvey as Bush, Jon Lovitz as Dukakis, a debate, Dana Bush gives a long indecipherable answer to a question, Jon Dudakis is asked to respond, and says (eyebrows raised), "I can't believe I'm losing to this guy".

Posted by: Terry at April 15, 2004 08:53 PM

Anyhow! I wanted to get today's discussion off and rolling about a recent study done by the Christian Film & Television Commission stating that American audiences prefer "conservative, patriotic movies with positive moral values rather than movies that push a left-wing agenda". The "study" cited such "good" films like Seabiscuit over Minority Report and endorses "Movies that support capitalist ideals, traditional moral values, and patriotism do much better at the box office than movies promoting socialism, communism, radical feminism, left-wing political correctness and atheism".

Wow! For once fags like me are apparently left out of the hated ones.

I gotta say I don't like that. "Hey Mr. Christian Movie guy! My people's AIDS films and cross-dressing movies are just as bad for Christian, God-fearing folk!!"

Anyhow - Janeane, Ms. Famous Movie Gal, give some comment on this radical study! Do American movie goers prefer God-fearing films.

btw, they toss "Return of the King" in there with "Finding Nemo" as having strong moral content. I suppose they failed to realize the PAGAN CONTENT of JRR TOLKIEN'S films, or that the hobbits were gay little stoners.

Gayest Neil

Posted by: gayest neil at April 15, 2004 08:53 PM

Joy
Not Dem's war....Eisenhower sent Nixon in '57?, '58?
first advisors in '58?, '59?

Posted by: Gabby at April 15, 2004 08:53 PM

suffering >>> The message. Must suffer as Christ did.

Posted by: BuckFush at April 15, 2004 08:53 PM

I don't like George Bush's God, he's a mean God... I like my God better

Posted by: John at April 15, 2004 08:53 PM

Elizabeth is shit that needs to be flushed

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:53 PM

So the Passion is like a zombe movie?

Posted by: DannySully at April 15, 2004 08:53 PM

Rarely would I plug south park, but I think South Park did a good parody on "The Passion" recently, did anyone else see this?

Posted by: Zeit at April 15, 2004 08:53 PM

We got the chocolate eggs from the golgotha.

Ewwwww...

Posted by: Forrest Gabitsch at April 15, 2004 08:53 PM

lib at large
i'm playing ketchup. what'd i miss?

kevr0n

Posted by: kevr0n at April 15, 2004 08:53 PM

That's the first time I have heard anyone mention that GWB is on a dry drunk. Ever heard an alcoholic defined as an egotist with an inferiority complex???

Posted by: JJ at April 15, 2004 08:53 PM

>>some lady called a show on cspan today and said something like "why did clinton make it so the intelligence agencies couldn't communicate, how do we stop that from happening again. they can't take away our precious patriot act"

janet reno under oath said they were not prevented from sharing information

the bush propaganda is scary<<

Not just for public consumption, either. I just got to a part of Clarke's book today where he says that the Pentagon would tell Clinton they "couldn't" act because they had no plan/resources/likelihood of success, then would tell special forces that the WH "wouldn't" approve the mission to get a "high-ranking al-Qaida" target.

I was so pissed I had to put the book down. Wanna bet this was all part of the whole Arkansas Project as well? Make him look weak on defense by hamstringing him (even tho WJC approved all the orders, but classified so he can't mention) AND spread the malicious gossip that he is the timid Prez who "won't" approve the plans!!!

Carrying over now, with suppression of all those papers from Clinton's admin.


Grrrrrrrrrrr
BQ

Posted by: RagingBQ at April 15, 2004 08:54 PM

sorry guys i meant "Now archiving" not "not archiving"

Posted by: Abe at April 15, 2004 08:54 PM

Joy is so right about Christ being a peacemaker. That Passion movie I couldn't see but some of my peacemaker friends say that the Devil looks like a gay man. Ah that Mel.

Posted by: Kate Anne at April 15, 2004 08:54 PM

Sorry, Joy. I actually liked the film and that's all I will say about it.

Posted by: PatLovesJaneane at April 15, 2004 08:54 PM

Why go see The Passion when you know how it ends? Like the Titanic or the Alamo?

Posted by: Passionless at April 15, 2004 08:54 PM

I suppose as long as they don't play that Ascroft song. We can allow them to ramble on a bad movie.

lol.

Posted by: wanda at April 15, 2004 08:54 PM

The US will not cut and run..at least not until June 30th.

Do we reaaaaly want to get bogged down financing the reconstruction of iraq and baby-sitting them until they can get their security together amidst swarms of insurgents and popular uprisings? Sounds like a losing battle. It's not about cutting and running, it's about cutting losses. This brute-force method of liberation, er I mean terrorism eradication is a no-win situation. My old computer science 101 teacher told us to look for the elegant solution. Im not saying that there is a super simple, easy fix for this problem..but letting our troops run around in Iraq as meaty targets seems like the absolute worst.

Posted by: Mrp at April 15, 2004 08:54 PM

I love Janeane. Thank god for this show, so I can listen to an intelligent and funny woman. I am also so glad to have air america online, since I live in Phoenix and they are not on the radio yet. I am hooked to this show, and it is so great to hear well thought out views.

Posted by: Michele at April 15, 2004 08:54 PM

fundamentalists.

they can justify all kinds of immoral behavior in the name of god.

Posted by: Dr. Paul Armstrong at April 15, 2004 08:54 PM

Love those marshmellow choc bunnies. YUM!

Posted by: BuckFush at April 15, 2004 08:54 PM

Janeane,
isn't the primary purpose is to stay sober and help others to recover from...even idiots like bush.
Stay sober!

Posted by: Michael at April 15, 2004 08:54 PM

The best lesson of Nine Eleven: Religious people can justify anything.

Posted by: James at April 15, 2004 08:54 PM

Article by Liberal Christian:

"Mel Gibson's Original Sin"

http://gadflyer.com/articles/?ArticleID=68

Posted by: mississippi_john at April 15, 2004 08:54 PM

Some info on George W. and the mental illnesses he may have...

http://www.she-net.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=109&PHPSESSID=85a814b43d0f96066600093516122583

Posted by: Jaretha at April 15, 2004 08:55 PM

PLAY THE STUTTERING

Posted by: Wole' Parks at April 15, 2004 08:55 PM

This sucks can we talk about something other than that movie.

Posted by: Tony_In_MS at April 15, 2004 08:55 PM

The Passion is only making money in the U.S.--I don't know when it came out in other countries, but it's certainly interesting that it has made $350 million in the U.S. and only $450 million total.

Posted by: Jacob at April 15, 2004 08:55 PM

Dammit, pedro let baltimore tie the game.

GO RED SOX!!!

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:55 PM

The No CARB Diet for 2004
No Cheney
No Ashcroft
No Rumsfeld
No Bush
And definitely No Rice!!

Posted by: Ernie at April 15, 2004 08:55 PM

Does anyone actually read these posts? btw i cannot stand george bush. I am orginally from new zealand i came here to marry an american, but if bush wins the election we are moving to new zealand

Posted by: Janine at April 15, 2004 08:55 PM

Eggs are all about fertility, pagan
The rabbit is all about the woman, like you wanna see my rabbit? pagan again,
christians stole it all to convince the earth loving pagans to become christian, or something like that

Posted by: vega at April 15, 2004 08:55 PM

THANK YOU

Posted by: Wole' Parks at April 15, 2004 08:55 PM

Janeane for PREZ????

Posted by: BuckFush at April 15, 2004 08:55 PM

“Iraq is a worser place than last week. We misunderestimated the enemy, but I believe our overall strategery is on target. I think war is a dangerous place, and has a subliminable effect on our minds, but Americans need to stay the course. The evil-doers and suiciders will be defeated. Terrosity is a danger to humanhood! If the evil-doers got their hands on Nukular Weapons we could see a fungus cloud over America, and that would be horrendible! This administrature is working overtime to insure that we do not have another attack on our home dirt, and that the brown-skins have freedom!” - George Bush, Inner Thoughts, April 15, 2004

Posted by: canadian_patriot2000 at April 15, 2004 08:55 PM

don't misunderestimate him!

Posted by: jojo at April 15, 2004 08:55 PM

No... They go to the movie because their churches are telling them they have to go because he was sacrificed for thier sins. They are guilted into making Mel... RICH!!!!! It's sick.. they tell these poor old women and men that would never go to a movie, that they are obligated to see Jesus die on the cross... Manipulation!!!!!

Posted by: Lisa at April 15, 2004 08:55 PM

tell em about it...

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:55 PM

Yeah, Joy - go off on Bush, he's a moron! Say this on the View !!!!

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:55 PM

copied from a different source

"Seabiscuit," pro-capitalist epic:
A "study" released on Monday reveals that "moviegoers prefer conservative, patriotic movies with positive moral values rather than movies that push a left-wing agenda." Authored by the Christian Film & Television Commission, an advocacy group in Hollywood, the study compares the box-office earnings of various movies released between 1999 and 2003 based on moral categories; for example, weighing the average box office of movies "with pro-capitalist content, such as 'Seabiscuit,'" against "anti-capitalist" films like ... "Minority Report"? Just how does the group make these tricky distinctions?

"Movies that support capitalist ideals, traditional moral values, and patriotism do much better at the box office than movies promoting socialism, communism, radical feminism, left-wing political correctness and atheism," said Ted Baehr, chairman of the group and publisher of Movieguide, a Christian movie review. (You can read more about Baehr here. )

This is the second report released this month by the group. Its last one was carried without skepticism by outlets as various as UPI, London's Sunday Telegraph, and the New York Post. That study compared the earnings of select movies released between 2001 and 2003, comparing, for example, the success of "Spider-Man" (a movie with a "very strong Christian worldview") to "In the Cut" in order to show that "movies with explicit sex and nudity don't sell."

This week's press release could hardly have been more vague: "Movies in 2003 with very strong moral content, such as 'Finding Nemo' and 'Return of the King,' averaged $92.5 million, while movies with very strong atheist content averaged only $5.3 million and movies with very strong political correctness from a leftist perspective averaged only $20.1 million."

What, precisely, qualifies as "atheist content"? Tom Snyder, editor of Movieguide, says the group analyzed hundreds of movies for the study, and grouped them by content and worldview. "For instance," he says, "we counted about 55 movies with some political correctness in them, and 15 movies with strong homosexual content." Asked for examples of movies that contain strong homosexual content, Snyder cited "Gigli" and "The Guru." The study's main critical distinction, as Snyder outlined it, is between the Christian and humanist worldviews. Films that have strong humanist elements, like "Gigli," are usually pro-atheist. He admits, however, that the lines can be blurred. "We list the dominant worldview, but all movies are hodgepodges. For instance, '21 Grams' was an interesting one -- a humanist perspective with a positive Christian character."

Movieguide.org offers a listing of current movies and assigns them moral acceptability ratings that are "based on a traditional view of the Bible and Christianity." "Ladykillers" and "Jersey Girl" received an "Extreme Caution" rating; "Hellboy" is listed as a "confused Christian allegory"; "Girl Next Door" is listed as "abhorrent," and its review carries this lament: "Regrettably, because it is such an entertaining movie, 'The Girl Next Door' may attract many young people at the local multiplex, resulting in a further loss of innocence and purity among our youth."

Paul Dergarabedian, president of Exhibitor Relations, a box office tracking company in L.A., says he doesn't think the studies say anything clear. "It's a truism, simply because R-rated films are going to get a smaller audience. The big box-office movies are all in the most popular category: They appeal to teens and they're accessible to teens. Teens are the biggest moviegoers; it's not telling me anything about nudity." And comparing "Spider-Man" to "In the Cut" strikes him as untenable. "I don't know how you make that leap; one of those is naturally a bigger movie. You could never make that comparison."

Publisher Baehr has recently come under some heat for the Web site: a Christianity Today article in March accused him of promoting some of the same movies that he reviews, notably "Gods and Generals." President Bush, however, praises their work.

Posted by: gayest neil at April 15, 2004 08:55 PM

I am listening in Knoxville. I just left a bar where I spoke with a conservative friend (co-worker). He just told me that the Bush government is smaller than the Clinton administration. Ok...true or not?

Posted by: Knoxville _architect at April 15, 2004 08:56 PM


Ephesus.

Turkish is Efes (there is a great popular wide-selling pilsner beer in Turkey called 'Efes Pilsen').

The Roman ruins are about 100 kilometers to the southeast of the major port city Izmir, and several hours to the south from Istanbul.

cok guzel.

Posted by: Mitch in RocklinCA at April 15, 2004 08:56 PM

Easter eggs come from the holiday of OSTARA... which meant egg. Ostara was another name for a fertility Goddess, whose sacred animal was the hare... there's lots more.

Posted by: Joy in Santa Cruz too at April 15, 2004 08:56 PM

O.K. guys I don't care whether I'm with you 99% of the time,regarding most issues. But, I'm talking here about the "Passion" I think you are wrong, wrong, wrong. God, I wish extremes would not be language of people truly engaged and interested in politics.

Seriously, I'm just tired of this shi-at!!

Posted by: ed at April 15, 2004 08:56 PM

The Passion is only making money in the U.S.--I don't know when it came out in other countries, but it's certainly interesting that it has made $350 million in the U.S. and only $450 million total.

Posted by: Jacob at April 15, 2004 08:56 PM

KUCINICH SHOULD BE PRESIDENT ---THEN WE WOULD BE LIVING IN A GREAT COUNTRY NOT A COUNTRY RUN BY FIGURE HEADS WHO WORK FOR THE CORPORATIONS WHO ELECT THEM. DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS ALSO PART OF THE PROBLEM..---I REALLY DON'T TRUST KERRY -EVEN THOUGH I HOPE HE IS ELECTED THE WHOLE SYSTEM
IS RIGGED.---- CORPORATION WIN EITHER WAY.

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:56 PM

He was talking about the question

Posted by: Wole' Parks at April 15, 2004 08:56 PM

For a parody of right winger religious fundies

see this video

http://www.rightwingeye.com

Posted by: Leftistindependent at April 15, 2004 08:56 PM

bush is probably a beard anyway.

who's really in control??

Posted by: Dr. Paul Armstrong at April 15, 2004 08:56 PM

Go Red Wings.

Posted by: patc at April 15, 2004 08:56 PM

Order some golf shoes...

Posted by: Rduke at April 15, 2004 08:56 PM

The Greatest example of the Extreme Right Winger is the Rev. Fred Phelps from the westboro baptist church in Topeka,Ks. It would be the highest comedy to have him on the show.

Posted by: GM of Topeka at April 15, 2004 08:56 PM

I'm convinced that Bush is merrily setting us, forcing us, down the path to his vision of Armageddon. He apparently works for the Saudis, because he's moving us toward the day that Christians will be "put to the sword" because they'll be evaluated as a danger to the world community. RELIGIOUSLY INSANE, with a cult of unthinking dittoheads propping his lame fraudulent ass up.

Posted by: Nathaniel Kabal at April 15, 2004 08:56 PM

South Park did a great job of exposing the Passion for what it is. Very funny too.

Posted by: Katie at April 15, 2004 08:56 PM

Relgious people can justify anything Tshirt:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=15687&item=3905228785&rd=1&tc=photo

Posted by: James at April 15, 2004 08:57 PM

Arent Presidents supposed to be smart!!!???

Posted by: Lisa at April 15, 2004 08:57 PM

Here are Bush's exact words, quoted by Haaretz: "God told me to strike at al-Qaida and I struck them, and then He instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me, I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them."

Posted by: spocko at April 15, 2004 08:57 PM

Janeane is still saying Rush "Limb-bow", and not "Limb-baw"

Posted by: pezwaldo at April 15, 2004 08:57 PM

if i was a hacker . . . kucinich would win the election.

Posted by: jojo at April 15, 2004 08:57 PM

.....THIS IS EMAIL........!!

Posted by: wanda at April 15, 2004 08:57 PM

oh, i get it! forgot my own post. where was i? oh, yeah! sexy voice, sexy glasses, sexy mind. but i like uma, too. but i dig jeneane!

kevr0n

Posted by: kevr0n at April 15, 2004 08:57 PM

EVEN COLIN QUINN in his monologue admitted that Bush was not credible in his press conference. Why does he still support him!?!

Posted by: Hardguy at April 15, 2004 08:57 PM

its true your own show, you rock

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:57 PM

The Passion is only making money in the U.S.--I don't know when it came out in other countries, but it's certainly interesting that it has made $350 million in the U.S. and only $450 million total.

Posted by: Jacob at April 15, 2004 08:57 PM

YES!!!!
have your own show Joy!!!!

Posted by: n69n at April 15, 2004 08:57 PM

irc.attack11.com

#themajorityreport

consider it done...

Posted by: Morgan at April 15, 2004 08:57 PM

HI JOY!!!! We love you!

Posted by: Frank at April 15, 2004 08:57 PM

Isn't "mistakes and what you have learned", a first question that you get asked during your first interview for a job after highschool, but than again Georgie never had to look for a real job.

Posted by: Kemot at April 15, 2004 08:57 PM

JOY...Why is that HOMOPHOBIC BITCH ELIZABETH still on the View? She is so ignorant! Why give hate a platform on a show that was intended to be inteligent,liberal and open minded? I can not watch the show until she is gone!

Posted by: janet at April 15, 2004 08:57 PM

The best times we ever had in this country were when religious right wingers knew when to shut the hell up. But now, they've been pushing so hard that they're wearing themselves out. It's just another trend, like those stupid Jesus shirts, flag lapel pins, etc. That's why I don't buy into "The Passion" or any of that garbage. It's greed disguised as reverence. People going to see a movie on Easter Sunday, because they think Jesus wants them to give Mel Gibson money, are a sad lot indeed.

Posted by: Forrest Gabitsch at April 15, 2004 08:57 PM

*WAVES AT JOY*

kick oreilly in the nuts next time he's on the show. =)

Posted by: anna at April 15, 2004 08:57 PM

A show on Air America....Joy

Posted by: jigsaw68 at April 15, 2004 08:57 PM

He is arrogant...he is delusional and suffer from delusions of granduer AND is self destructive!

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:57 PM

Come on, JANEANE and SAM!!!

Comment on this. Donald Rumsfeld: "People are fungible."

"FUNGIBLE" synonym: INTERCHANGEABLE.

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at April 15, 2004 08:57 PM

listening to Bush during the press conference was like getting back your 10th grade essay test that you didn't study for, so you kind of just re-worded the question and kept going until you had enough writing to fill up the page

Posted by: movershaker at April 15, 2004 08:58 PM

What is freedom? Are we truly endowed with free will, all the way to the quantum level, even beyond our conditioning? Can anyone do what they would never do? I just wish they'd stop selling "freedom" without explaining what they mean by it. People ought to be free to choose non-freedom if that's their bent, don't you think?

Posted by: Scott Lahteine at April 15, 2004 08:58 PM

Joy IS terrific. This show is the BEST on Air America Radio -- Sam and Janeane rock!

Posted by: Kate Anne at April 15, 2004 08:58 PM

Tuned in late. Did anyone ask Joy how she can work with that blond moron (I don't mean JG) on a daily basis. (I've stopped watching due to her.)

Posted by: Sue at April 15, 2004 08:58 PM

FYI to everyone... I bet everyone has seen that infamous picture with Rummy shaking hands with Sadamm.. that very day Sadamm was gasing his own people... total hypocracy

Posted by: Abe at April 15, 2004 08:58 PM

Yep Vega, You got it right on the easter egg. :)

Joy you rock, from another Joy

Posted by: Joy in Santa Cruz too at April 15, 2004 08:58 PM

Y'know, my favorite thing about Our Fearless Leader's press conference song-n-dance was watching his face get redder and redder.

Posted by: bonho at April 15, 2004 08:58 PM

Al Franken for Prez...

Go read his book "Why Not Me?" And read about him taking on the ATM Machines

Posted by: Leftistindependent at April 15, 2004 08:58 PM

Freedom is Freedom...

Anything less is slavery

Posted by: Rduke at April 15, 2004 08:58 PM

FOX is the reality show network.

Posted by: PatLovesJaneane at April 15, 2004 08:58 PM

The Bush Administrations Assault on the Environment

http://www.nrdc.org/legislation/rollbacks/rollbacksinx.asp

Posted by: not_bush_2004 at April 15, 2004 08:58 PM

thanks for sticking up for howard, joy

Posted by: goody at April 15, 2004 08:58 PM

WHO CAN MARRY THE DUMBEST MIDGET?

Posted by: n69n at April 15, 2004 08:58 PM

~~~~ kerry is VERY smart... have to make decisions based on current facts ~~~~

I want Kerry to win. Smart, is not saying things in April that you wish you hadn't in July!

Elevating our candidate to an infallible doesn't help. One problem: the lack of distance between Kerry's and Bush's positions on Iraq.

Posted by: Fishgrease at April 15, 2004 08:58 PM

To quote Maureen Dowd in the NYTimes today:
After the Bay of Pigs, President Kennedy spoke to newspaper publishers and said: "This administration intends to be candid about its errors. For as a wise man once said, `An error does not become a mistake until you refuse to correct it.' . . . Without debate, without criticism, no administration and no country can succeed — and no republic can survive."

Posted by: Amy at April 15, 2004 08:58 PM

Joy. I for one, am glad that you don't have your own show. The View is a suck-up fest. Stop trying to inflate yourself. You're a hack.

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:58 PM

HEY JANINE!! Can I come to New Zealand??? Please?

Posted by: BuckFush at April 15, 2004 08:58 PM

George Hanson: They'll talk to ya and talk to ya and talk to ya about individual freedom. But they see a free individual, it's gonna scare 'em.
~ Easy Rider
Real audio file here: http://www.boredmonkey.com/easyrider_freedom.rm

Posted by: Boredmonkey at April 15, 2004 08:58 PM

I loved his tie. It was so hypnotic.

"Ask me about how Saddam was evil..."

Posted by: Hokie at April 15, 2004 08:58 PM

The Passion is only making money in the U.S.--I don't know when it came out in other countries, but it's certainly interesting that it has made $350 million in the U.S. and only $450 million total.

Posted by: Jacob at April 15, 2004 08:58 PM

yeah, joy should have her own AAR time slot!

Posted by: Ed at April 15, 2004 08:58 PM

give joy a show on air america! =)

Posted by: anna at April 15, 2004 08:58 PM

vulgarity and sex love money

Posted by: blklng at April 15, 2004 08:58 PM

......They sleep together.....? heh heh...

Posted by: wanda at April 15, 2004 08:58 PM

joy is fab!!!! im trying to call and noone is picking up.

joy i used to listen to your show after howard everyday. i miss you on the radio. how do you deal with that blonde bimbo?


you should get a show here

love

rich weaver

Posted by: rich weaver at April 15, 2004 08:58 PM

Since Repugs are obsessed with Clinton and what he did what his penis, let me say that I think you should screw Bill O'Riley with Clinton's penis.

Posted by: Robert at April 15, 2004 08:59 PM

yeah cops...


Posted by: Rduke at April 15, 2004 08:59 PM

We love Joy!!!!!

Posted by: Lisa at April 15, 2004 08:59 PM

On the JFK quoting-that reminds me of what Kerry really needs to do; Give a great speech that people will quote forever.

Posted by: Dania at April 15, 2004 08:59 PM

love ya , joy. great program

Posted by: Barbara at April 15, 2004 08:59 PM

backlash- It just horrifies me what the right-wingers have done to Christianity. I read somewhere a while back that every time Bush says he's a Christian, Jesus throws up. No doubt!

Posted by: leftyleftist at April 15, 2004 08:59 PM

colin finally realized dumya is taxing his credability! yeah, i know, i'm repeating myself. i'm running outta a-list material...

kevr0n

Posted by: kevr0n at April 15, 2004 08:59 PM

JOY IS THE BLOG !!!!

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 08:59 PM

Well said about Stern! Thanks Joy/SAM!

Posted by: BuckFush at April 15, 2004 08:59 PM

Sex and vulgarity. WoooHooo!
More sex, more vulgarity.

Posted by: Liberal-at-large at April 15, 2004 09:00 PM

At what point did the word "liberal" become something that all people in the world should not aspire to?

Posted by: Austin Moran at April 15, 2004 09:00 PM

heh, i'm a chat room of one :'(

Posted by: Morgan at April 15, 2004 09:00 PM

You guys are right on the money on everything! I love this show!

Posted by: Ryan in Columbus at April 15, 2004 09:00 PM

As far as the "Passion of the Christ" bit ...

I've been curious why people haven't really pointed out the actual gospel version of this holy ass-beating that supposedly took place.

LOOK IN THE GOSPELS. They give it one damn sentence. The hour long beating gets ONE SENTENCE in each of the 4 gospels.

Yeshua gets dressed up like a king, spit on, hit with a reed, and the next sentence is sent out for crucifixion.

Talk about a downer. After all the hubbub about this film I went to the gospels looking for a good snuff story, yet there was absolutely nothing there. :(

Posted by: Chris H at April 15, 2004 09:00 PM

THANK YOU JOY!

Posted by: n69n at April 15, 2004 09:00 PM

Frontline is coming on now.

Posted by: Terry at April 15, 2004 09:00 PM

hope joy can stick around.

Posted by: goody at April 15, 2004 09:00 PM

Free speech demands more speech, to be sure. What's hard to take is the increase in volume from the right. It's as if they believe that he/she who is loudest is by default right... er, correct. >.-

Posted by: KC at April 15, 2004 09:01 PM

Okay Joy: I neither love nor hate you -- but I do miss your ol' radio show! Yours was the first I ever got on the air on (immediately followed by Limbaugh) and I'll never forget it -- you had such an intelligent and nuanced reply, it was refreshing to hear on the radio.

As long as you're not one of The View hosts who believes in pseudoscientific nonsense like psychics or astrology (I forget which of you do), you definitely ought to be on the air again!

Posted by: glenno at April 15, 2004 09:01 PM

Janeane...so if not sleeping with Sam...are you free???

Posted by: Frank at April 15, 2004 09:01 PM

Need new thread. this one is about to blow up.

Posted by: wanda at April 15, 2004 09:01 PM

That was a beaut folks

Posted by: Shadow Webmaster at April 15, 2004 09:01 PM

Oh you wonderful people, you have made my workday so much more inspiring.

Now, not enough has been said of bush's latest attempt to tie Iraq to terrorism. Please find that clip, he almost began banging his hand on the podium.

Posted by: Timmy Put at April 15, 2004 09:01 PM

BUSH: OVER 500 DAYS VACATION IN 4 YEARS

"This is Bush's 33rd visit to his ranch since becoming president. He has spent all or part of 233 days on his Texas ranch since taking office, according to a tally by CBS News. Adding his 78 visits to Camp David and his five visits to Kennebunkport, Maine, Bush has spent all or part of 500 days in office at one of his three retreats, or more than 40 percent of his presidency."
-Washington Post

"How many vacation days has George W. Bush taken to date as president? How does that compare with Clinton?"

http://ask.yahoo.com/ask/20031001.html

Posted by: not_bush_2004 at April 15, 2004 09:02 PM

Lets all move to new zealand if bush wins!!!

Posted by: Janine at April 15, 2004 09:02 PM

Okay Joy: I neither love nor hate you -- but I do miss your ol' radio show! Yours was the first I ever got on the air on (immediately followed by Limbaugh) and I'll never forget it -- you had such an intelligent and nuanced reply, it was refreshing to hear on the radio.

As long as you're not one of The View hosts who believes in pseudoscientific nonsense like psychics or astrology (I forget which of you do), you definitely ought to be on the air again!

Posted by: glenno at April 15, 2004 09:02 PM

Someone mentioned "South Park" and "The Passion." I've noticed that the best liberal media out there is comedy. "South Park," "Daily Show," "Real Time" (whether Maher admits it or not), "Chappelle's Show," Comics like David Cross, Lewis Black, etc. And now Air America.

I always thought liberals were funnier than right-wingers, because their jokes are smarter. People who like simple shit and nothing else just love those Rush Limbaugh song parodies.

Weird Al still rules.

Posted by: Forrest Gabitsch at April 15, 2004 09:02 PM

Give it to her Sam!!! I would.

Posted by: terry65 at April 15, 2004 09:02 PM

I am curious what the age demographic of "us" majority reporters are. Maybe this would actually be useful to AAR. Me, I am 32, and I suspect most of us are in there 30's...post a response for the sake of the idea please...I am sure others are curious...Thanks!

Posted by: Christopher at April 15, 2004 09:02 PM

Wednesday, April 14, 2004 · Last updated 4:12 p.m. PT

Soldier charged in Iowa bank robbery

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

KEOKUK, Iowa -- A soldier from Fort Campbell, Ky., drove his pickup truck to Iowa where he allegedly robbed a bank before surrendering to police, authorities said.

Master Sgt. Kenneth Lee Schweitzer, 38, entered the Keokuk Savings Bank Tuesday, fired three shots in the air and demanded money, police said. He left with an undisclosed amount of cash and drove to the police station, said police Capt. Kevin Church.

Schweitzer said he robbed the bank for "personal reasons," according to Church.

"I believe he is crying out for help," Church said. "He said the only thing I can live in is an 8-by-8 cell.

Schweitzer was charged with first-degree robbery. He was being held Wednesday on $200,000 bond.

Lt. Col. Trey Cate, public affairs officer for the 101st Airborne Division at Fort Campbell, said he did not know if Schweitzer was on leave. He was deployed until recently with the division in northern Iraq.

Church said Schweitzer has no ties to Iowa. A hometown was not immediately available.

"He just decided to jump in his pickup truck one morning," Church said. "No rhyme or reason to why he stopped here."

Posted by: I Will Not Die In Bushs Dirty Iraq War at April 15, 2004 09:02 PM

Speaking of the press conference did you notice that he mentioned how when he sees the families of the fallen GI's (which isn't that often...) he reminds them that they gave they lives for the cause of freedom? You think they don't already know that? Pretty much it's "yeah you lost your parent/child/sibling/spouse/friend but hey they died for something so dry your tears." Isn't that like saying "quit whining?" well if that's what you mean just say it!

Posted by: Tokugawa at April 15, 2004 09:02 PM

Daniel,

that picture at http://www.bartcop.com/iraq-coffins.jpg

was one that was on drudgereport for a short time last night/early morning as part of the link to the new york times story. I posted about it on this blog last night. Thanks for posting it. Everyone should download it, save it & send it to everyone you know. It says a boatload of words silently.

Great Frontline on PBS WTTW Channel 11 Chicago now "The Man Who Knew, FBI Agent John O'Neill" That man knew & warned about Osama & Al Queda attacking the USA. He left the FBI and became head of security at the world trade center and lost his life there.
pbs.org

It will be on their website and I hope the DVD of it is out soon. The program usually repeats in early morning in big markets.

Posted by: Great American Patriot at April 15, 2004 09:05 PM

Jesse Ventura running for president? As much as I like The Body, that isn't a good idea.

Posted by: PatLovesJaneane at April 15, 2004 09:05 PM

Knoxville,

Tell your friend the threat is not "big" gov't, but gov't schilling out fat contracts to corporations like Halliburton and in Big Pharma.

Posted by: Michael at April 15, 2004 09:05 PM

88 people dead in one month in Iraq? But that is only U.S. people! How many Iraqis for God sake? And what about the depleted uranium we have left all over the place. Oh, God....

Janeane, Sam -- remind people, please, that Iraqis have suffered terrible losses and we have poisoned their environment. This is democracy???

Posted by: Kate Anne at April 15, 2004 09:05 PM

I know I'm a good mom because when my kid (an adult) saw "Passion," she said all she could think of was Matthew Shepherd. Hey, Mel, my free, thoughtful, mothering trumped your multimillion dollar propoganda.

Bite me.

Posted by: Sue at April 15, 2004 09:05 PM

Some web links to Depleted Uranium information

http://www.chugoku-np.co.jp/abom/uran/special/index2.html
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0113-01.htm
http://traprockpeace.org/depleteduranium.html

Kucinich flash animation that is tough to watch showing Iraqi children with birth defects from DU.
http://www.kucinich.us/dkdu.html

Posted by: Gregory Wonderwheel at April 15, 2004 09:06 PM

The earlier discussion on "the Passion" was theoretically on target. Basically what Gibson's film does is tell the story of the crucifixion without historical or societal context. If a viewer had never heard of the Jesus account, one would think that there was a nice guy praying in a garden at night, then some mean guys came to get him, took him away for no reason, and then tortured and murdered him.

For liberal Christians out there, when discussing this issue with far right wingers who claim Christianity, the question to pose to them is:

"WHY was Jesus killed?"

They might answer, "Jesus died for our sins." To which one can respond.

"I didn't ask why he died, I asked, 'why was he killed?"

This is a powerful question to force people to struggle with, it demands a historical and socio-political analysis of Jesus' public life.

He was killed because he was a threat to the empire.

If you're on the Christian Left and interested in getting a more solid grounding on this stuff, I would suggest two books:

1. Jesus Before Christianity, by Albert Nolan
2. Unexpected News, by Robert McAffee Brown

We cannot continue to let Bush and the far right wing hijack Jesus' memory to promote injustice.

Peace, Jim Keady, Educating for Justice

www.educatingforjustice.org

Posted by: Jim Keady at April 15, 2004 09:06 PM

RE:THE PASSION
The passion is specifically about the death and resurrection of christ. The number one thing that most people SHOULD take from the new testament is FORGIVENESS....period. Not all Christians are psycho right wing craszy's,...in fact Jesus was the first liberal. He stood up against the right wingers of the time, the Pharisee's. How the religious right doesnt see this is beyond me, and how liberal became a bad word is even more insane to me. There is a religious left in this country, but we are simply more interested in helping the less fortunate than the right is, who only seem to be concerned with power and privilege. Im not sure what mel gibson's political ideals are, but im pretty sure that he's not using the profits to fund the right wing agenda, and least i hope not. I really hope not.

Posted by: at April 15, 2004 09:06 PM

here's a back-pat for Janeane and Sam.

.and *pat* *pat* *pat*

good job guys

Posted by: kmj at April 15, 2004 09:07 PM

Joy is wonderful!!! But what does she do on the View. I have only seen it a few times, and she's always funny but I've never heard her say anything overtly political, while annoying Star and Elizabeth always quote God and Elizabeth always says she's a Christina woman. So what? Truly religious people would not need to differentiate themselves. Whatdoes Joy do on the View?

I love Janeane and Sam!!! And Patrick!

Posted by: Tess at April 15, 2004 09:09 PM

oh....now I get it....I just thought all of my friends had a bad case of typo....."bake back America"!!!! ha!

Posted by: backlash at April 15, 2004 09:10 PM

'Great Santini' reference:

If you don't win don't come home!

Posted by: HACKETT at April 15, 2004 09:15 PM

Hey! Thats not fair Sam!! Coast to Coast is an excellent radio program that deals with many more topics other than aliens.

Posted by: Drew at April 15, 2004 09:25 PM

Check the food network for the orgin of corn and cabbage.

Posted by: Donald W Bennett at April 15, 2004 09:28 PM

I am so thankfull for liberal voices on internet radio. Come to Las Vegas!!!!!! Today is a great day. I found this site and because I am sitting here doing nothing I decided to get more involved online with the issues your talkin bout. The liberals are winning the internet battle. Suprised the trolls have not infiltrated. I mean the "chickenhawks". I am sure they will.

Why can't you focus on police brutality? I shot the infamous inglewood video and I would like to hear anyone at air america address the brutal police in america and quit ignoring it. The police are out of control. Quit ignoring it. they are killing people.

Posted by: phashism at April 15, 2004 09:33 PM

Joy was a great guest. You should invite her again. Better yet she should have her own radio show.

Posted by: Nan at April 15, 2004 09:39 PM

annoy a conservative, think for yourself.

Posted by: phashism at April 15, 2004 09:41 PM

I hope you get back on the air in LA soon, I haven't left my computer in 3 days. The intravenous feeding is okay, but the catheter is really getting itchy.

Keep up the good work!

Posted by: Eric at April 15, 2004 09:47 PM

Take a look at this website, where is the US version of this story?
http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,9282016%5E2,00.html

Posted by: Eric at April 15, 2004 09:52 PM

The Passion of the Christ
Reviewed by S.K. Inlow
For the Video Vault


Judging by a Sunday afternoon crowd at Philipsburg’s Rowland Theater, “The Passion of the Christ” is a powerful film for people of faith. Who you are going into the movie has, I think, something to do with your emotional and intellectual reaction to the movie.
To be sure, the film is graphic. It is rated a hard R and is not the stuff of children’s bible stories. Christ’s torture and murder are so horrifically portrayed as to make anyone think twice at their next communion. We tend to observe a sanitized version of the crucifixion in church and Mel Gibson’s controversial film brings the passion into a harsh, sharp contrast.
Before diving into the controversies any film on the life of Jesus might present, it is best we treat the film as a movie rather than a religious statement.
The film picks up at Gethsemane, and travels through Christ’s trial, crucifixion and resurrection. All the while, the film uses some nice theatric touches, such as the depiction of Satan and of Judas’s crisis of conscience, and some not so nice, such as the so Hollywood gadgets like the worm up Satan’s nose (like I needed an “Isn’t that special?” effect to clue me that that was maybe, hmmmmm, Satan?) and the stark use of a deformed dwarf as “The Beast.” Most of the other film elements are top notch. Music? Check. Design? Check. Acting?
Let me check myself at the acting. Suffice to say that biblical characters as they are presented in this film are not fully realized and much of the action we see is by bit characters. The acting, though, is uniformly good. It is the audience, I think, that fills in some potholes with their own expectations.
I’d like to say the script is top notch, too, but there is no getting away from the source material. It is fair to say that I’ve never seen scriptures used so well and to such dramatic effect in a script.
The movie flows effortlessly to its conclusion, playing much more quickly than its 125-minute length. The action is strong and relentlessly violent. Some really squeamish moments that have some turning away or fidgeting in their seats might actually serve to highlight several acts of kindness, allowing gentle moments in Christ’s life to shine through.
To the controversies.
I have heard from different pastors I know that the film does not strictly adhere to the scriptures and, conversely, that it does have strong grounding in scriptures. Seeing as there are four accounts in the Holy Bible dealing with the passion, each with its own shading and witness, I think the film can be forgiven. Not being a biblical scholar, I can say the film hit close enough to the mark for me. The very good upside to the film is that it has spurred a public discussion on Jesus. People are spending their free time thinking about spirituality when many can’t be bothered even on a Sunday morning.
Some criticism has been made that Gibson’s self-financed picture “blames the Jews” for the death of Christ. I think it is a matter of the Christian Bible that the Jews called for his crucifixion. The Jewish faith, of course, does not accept Jesus as the son of God, except for a minority of so called “Messianic Jews.”
What is really obvious in this picture is that Pilate gets a pretty big pardon. On Sundays, I can be heard praying, “Suffered under Pontius Pilate.” Gibson’s take pretty much absolves Pilate and maybe there is a scriptural case to be made on that issue.
In the film, Pilate, like all the leaders of the time, didn’t want the political hot potato of sentencing Jesus to death. Again, perhaps the biblical argument can be made.
In a religious context, I cannot ably combat the truth of these matters. I wish I had those answers. From a strictly cinematic viewpoint, “The Passion” is a pretty good movie.
What bothers me is how these kinds of movies inflame us. I remember some years ago the row that was created when “The Last Temptation of Christ” was released. People picketed theaters and all because of one man’s take on the story.
You know, I applaud Mel Gibson for making a film that was important to him but I am suspicious of the axes that are brought to grind. What makes Gibson’s vision so controversial is the larger context of a society we live in that is extremely fundamentalist and, perhaps by this very definition, very anti-semitic.
It is curious that not only theological fires are being stoked, but political ones as well, by a not so simple movie.


Posted by: Wabbit Season at April 15, 2004 09:53 PM

well I say take the "under god" out.

Mel gibson is a homophobic moron.

Posted by: phashism at April 15, 2004 09:55 PM

Not everyone is a cristian and obligated to see a movie about a 2000 year old "carpenter".

I believe in NEO.

Posted by: phashism at April 15, 2004 09:57 PM

Can anyone explain to me the Trickle Down Effect? I had a heated debate with my economics professor about how The Republican way of thinking in terms of Economics. I told him in theory it works, but it's just that a theory. Why is it that the rich need more money to spend money. They obviously got that way by not spending money. I figure if you give someone who makes 30,000 an extra grand or so they are going to spend or even if they really want to better themselves than they will invest or even save it. Am I crazy or is that just good logic, am I missing something?

Posted by: Eric at April 15, 2004 10:07 PM

Ok, you DESPERATELY NEED an Amazon.com search link deal on your website. You could make a killing. I pretty much search for books 2-3 times a show(granted that I already have "The Price of Loyalty", but the other books I haven't always seen before.

Posted by: Jeff Warren at April 15, 2004 10:11 PM

I just had a soldier friend of my son, and like one of my own, come back alive from the war. His brother too. He served a year tour in the 82nd Airborne in the worst part of Baghdad.
I got a front row seat to this whole thing and a real firsthand education about what these boys are going through over there.
They were lead to believe they'd go in MISSION ACCOMPLISHED< sound familiar, then get out.

If we are going to ask of these willing heroes a job of this magnitude, then it better damn well be for the right reasons.

He told me back in January, that it's going to get worse. Well, guess what folks.

Spent is not the word for those soldiers who now can't come home.
Someone suggested on this blog to rotate them to a much more secure place.
Brilliant
They need relief as humanely and quickly as possible.
The incoming troops would be trained and ready.
With bases all over this world, surely this is doable somehow,start with Hawaii.

Posted by: lakermom3 at April 15, 2004 10:13 PM

Eric: Ok, Trickle Down economics only would work in IF people would spend OR invest a constant percentage of their net income regardless of the current macroeconomic state or their personal needs. "Supply siders" like Larry Kudlow(I REALLY REALLY HATE THAT GUY) live by the notion that people and business won't invest based on the prospect of more income on their top line, but simply because they already have more on their bottom line. THAT IS INSANE!!! Businesses weren't laying off thousands of workers in 2001 and 2002 because their TAXES WERE TOO high they all said because their DEMAND AND SALES WERE LOWER.
Business won't invest more money simply because they suddenly have more money unless the their is prospect of actually selling more. Wealthy individuals won't spend more unless they NEED MORE PRODUCTS. THAT'S ECON 101. Poorer workers will ALWAYS SPEND A LARGER PERCENTAGE OF ANY TAX CUT THAN WEALTHY WORKERS. Their only argument is on the supply-side and it has never proven to be true NEVER.

Posted by: Jeff Warren at April 15, 2004 10:20 PM

Safer without Saddam??

HELLO!! Sadr!!
Kill him and their will be somebody else too. Everybody that doesn't agree with GWB isn't against "freedom". I am so sick of that.

Posted by: Jeff at April 15, 2004 10:22 PM

The terrible truth is that nobody tells it. Everybody lies. That's right boys and girls, this world is going to hell in a hand-basket and the only truth is there is no truth.
Remember that our little breath of fresh air here has a sales staff too, and they are not above using dishonest tactics in an attempt to get you to buy their air.
And that is a sad statement.
FACT

Posted by: M at April 15, 2004 10:24 PM


Janeane,

The word is IGNOBLE, not UNNOBLE.

Posted by: Mitch in RocklinCA at April 15, 2004 10:29 PM


J & S,

Your guest has a voice very much like Richard Perle's.

Posted by: Mitch in RocklinCA at April 15, 2004 10:33 PM

What are you guys saying and thinking about the ongoing attempt of the Vatican to influence American politics. A few weeks ago, a Vatican spokesperson declared that John Kerry was going to have trouble from the Vatican because of his beliefs about abortion, same sex unions/marriages and other issues. Last week someone in the American Hierarchy declared that Kerry should be ex communicated until he gets his political teachings in line with Roman Catholic dogma. Yesterday or so a Roman Catholic Priest opened the house session in Colorado with a prayer that they would be unlike John F. Kennedy and that they would let their spiritual beliefs influence all their deliberations.

Thank you, and keep up the good work!!! Dope the Pope and scrub the shrub!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Al Embry at April 15, 2004 10:43 PM

Abraham Lincoln had no church affiliation and
Thomas Jefferson was a Deist.

For whatever that's worth

Posted by: Marc at April 15, 2004 10:51 PM

Good explanation of trickle-down economics by one of its greatest champions.

http://www.rationalrevolution.net/trickle_down.htm

Posted by: Mike at April 15, 2004 10:57 PM

If you haven't read Wolcott's "Round Up the Cattle" from Vanity Fair a couple of years ago, you owe it to yourself. Trust me.

Posted by: millerdunwoody at April 15, 2004 10:59 PM

I just loved your program tonight. I love hearing intelligent conversations from intelligent people, something most of the media is lacking right now.

Posted by: Carol at April 15, 2004 11:01 PM

Great great fabulous show tonight!!!!!!! AAR is the most empowering, energizing, informative thing in the world. Especially Majority Report: THE BEST. Thanks for giving me hope.

italian maria

Posted by: maria la place at April 15, 2004 11:01 PM

You call this a radio "Network" able to compete???

Amazing how all the AirAmerica air staff have a deep rooted phobia about actually taking phonecalls or reading emails that might disagree with them. Afraid of actually having to defend your left wing crap? One of your favorite targets, Rush, must have a real set of stones to invite callers that disagree. While they are screened, they are openly encouraged. He doesn't hide like you do. Imagine that, actual on-air DEBATE on a TALK SHOW?

Why have a "talk show network" when all you want to do is to continually broadcast your own cowardly agendas? How do you really think you can compete with the real talk shows who don't hide under their consoles from their desired audience? How many advertisers want to buy full cost ad time on just half a radio station?

You people are idiots, the "network" is a real joke & since you are down to like 4 stations, I am betting you won't make it 6 months. Anyone who employs Al FrankenYanker deserves to fail!

I doubt you have the courage to answer these questions on air but afterall, you hate GW Bush so you are real cowards!

4 more years LeftOs, better move to France with Babs...

Raf the Right...

Posted by: Rafman at April 15, 2004 11:10 PM
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